1.Wlad
2.Peter
3.Maskaev
4.Liachovich
5.Brewster
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1.Wlad
2.Peter
3.Maskaev
4.Liachovich
5.Brewster
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pro BOXER18
1.Vlad
2.Peter
3.Toney
4.Brewster
5.Briggs
Wheres your game? ::**
Wlad
Toney
Peter
and what else is there?
I agree absolutely but you missed out on the top part of your post.
And should include the fighters complete names
It should look like this
Champion "The Giant" Nicolai Valuev
(a large space here to show Valuevs superiority)
then...
1.Wlad "glass jaw" Klitschko
2.Peter "the walking beer barrel" Peter
3.Oleg "the big O no, he's ben knocked out again" Maskaev
4.Sergie "if I don't hit you,promise you won't hit me "Liachovich
5.Lamont "Even I can KO Klitschko" Brewster
6-100 bunch of other bums
Maybe we should include
James "where's the Buffet" Toney &
Shannon "stop the fight I can't breath" Briggs
If you think valuev is the champ for beating a shot ruiz and defending one of the formerly more legit belts by fighting absolute nobodys you're crazy. Then again you think byrd would out box ali so this does not surprize me.
I don't think those things....I KNOW themQuote:
Originally Posted by Punisher136
As i now KNOW you deserve a :sadclick:Quote:
Originally Posted by landmine950
Okay here is my top 5.
1. Proboxer18 (Hey I think he is a middlewieght...but it wouldn't be too much adversity.)
2.) Wlad
3.) The rest
1. Wlad - Pretty much everyone has him here
2. Peter - Only lost to Wlad (and debatably Toney first time)
3. Maskaev - Has had a phenomenal come back for his age
4. Toney - On his way out, all the jump in weight has long since caught up with him
5. Valuev - Fights bums etc etc., but just his sheer size makes him tough for everyone.
You can debate my choices all you want, cause I honestly care very little about the Heavies right now.
Haha..Its like james toneyQuote:
Originally Posted by boozeboxer
Pro boxer is a middleweight..But he's got heavyweight nuts ;)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
You guys still rate Toney that highly? And how far behind these 5 would you put a couple of the British guys like Audley and Skelton? I wouldnt be too surprised to see one of them a world champ in the not too distant future - maybe not dethroning Vlad or Valuev but one of the others possibly.
Valuev IS the WBA heavyweight champion its a fact.
Chris Byrd would beat Muhammad Ali EASILY!
Byrd is 36 and still in his prime, Ali is now 65 and not lookin' too good.
You disagree???
Here's an official ranking list.. notice the name at the top.
HEAVYWEIGHT (Over 200 Lbs / 90.71 Kgs)
World Champion: NICOLAY VALUEV RUS
Won Title: 12-17-05
Last Mandatory:
Last Defense: 10-07-06
WBC:OLEG MASKAEV - IBF:WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO
WBO: SHANNON BRIGGS
1. RUSLAN CHAGAEV (OC) UZB
2. RAY AUSTIN USA
3. SULTAN IBRAGIMOV RUS
4. SERGUEI LIAKHOVICH BEL
5. JOHN RUIZ USA
6. DAVARYLL WILLIAMSON USA
7. LAMON BREWSTER USA
8. LARRY DONALD USA
9. HASIM RAHMAN USA
10. MIKE MOLLO (LAC) USA
11. TARAS BIDENKO (WBA I/C) UKR
12. WLADIMIR VIRCHIS (EBU) UKR
13. ALEXANDER DIMITRENKO UKR
14. JAMEEL MCCLINE USA
15. JEAN FRANCOIS BERGERON (NABA)
Oh yes definately my man..Quote:
Originally Posted by beerjelly
If you think honestly..Who aside from vlad and peter..Even beats toney..And even sam got lucky in the first fight..But now he's strait and done himself good..Even though i dispute the scoring..He won well..
No one else beats toney..
And also i think skelton doesnt make the world stage..He's strait up a tough bastard..But im not sure he can hang with the rest..If auddley stays strait and narrow he'll make the big time..
But i think the british lads have the raw end of the deal now..
Sam vlad and toney are all two classes above the rest..And i see unifications bieng made..So they need to get in there fast before someone like vlad or peter takes two each..lol
Peace
Skelton needs a few more fights and i'm not a fan of audley's.Quote:
Originally Posted by beerjelly
So thats official?
Even though where is toney and peter eh?
..Thats really not right..
And when they say byrd vs ali..Its prime for prime..And byrd gets stopped mid rounds ;)
even at 65 if ali's symptoms aren't acting up i got him winning by split decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by landmine950
Of course he's on top, that's the WBA rankings and he holds the title. Let's see what the Ring says (a little more credibility)Quote:
Originally Posted by landmine950
HEAVYWEIGHTS
Weight Unlimited
Champ: Vacant
This
week Last
Week Weeks
in
Ratings Fighter Record
1 1 84 WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO 47-3 (42)
2 2 21 OLEG MASKAEV 34-5 (26)
3 3 87 SAMUEL PETER 27-1 (22)
4 4 168 JAMES TONEY 69-5-3 (43)
5 5 9 SHANNON BRIGGS 48-4-1 (42)
6 6 40 SERGEI LIAKHOVICH 23-2 (14)
7 7 138 LAMON BREWSTER 33-3 (29)
8 8 55 NICOLAY VALUEV 45-0 (33)
9 9 7 RUSLAN CHAGAEV 22-0-1 (17)
10 10 303 JOHN RUIZ 41-7-1 (28)
Byrd would get destroyed by Ali's reach.
if ali didn't have parkinson's i'll go as far as to say that he wins by ko.
OH Ring Sming! so what belt are they handing out??? huh? NONE!
That list is garbage! Ruiz is still on it! and he's lower than Toney! Toney should be ranked lower than a snakes belly after his last Fat choked waddle in the ring. And hey! wheres Evander!
And like Punisher said Ali should STILL be like 6 or 7 th
That listing is the OFFICIAL wba rankings!
get it! ITS OFFICIAL!!!
(ha, lets see them try and argue with THAT!)
the ring doesn't have a belt handed out because there's no bum that has proved he's worthy of carrying it.
1.Wladimir Klitschko
2. Nicolay Valuev
3. Samuel Peter
4.Oleg Maskaev
5.Chris Byrd
Hey by the way...has anyone told Tito-BHB that Toney lost yet?
does he know? break it to him gently....
Hey what does the BHB stand for anyway??
Big,beautiful,bad,bald,bulls1t....,bugeyed
Homo,hung,homeless,honkey,humping
Bastard,blowhard,bigshot????
fill me in!
Yes but i think you'll find that the wba doesnt rank all contenders..Quote:
Originally Posted by landmine950
Proof is..Peter and toney arent on it ...at least them
And you try tell me that all those fighters on the list you put out beat them..
So thats no legitimate ranking of the entire division...
The Ring magizine ranking is the recognised ranking system..
And plus you even admitted ..I didnt see the fight..
Well i stuck it on my thread for you to see it and you havnt watched it..
So watch it and tell me oh toney on his belly bla bla bla
Your "OFFICIAL" rankings are from nothing more than a sanctioning body that charges money for people to fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by landmine950
Ruiz is ranked 5th according to your "OFFICIAL" rankings. I'm guessing you've been following the sport for less than a year.
The WBA ranks people and hands out titles for one reason, to rake in sanctioning fees.
Its true killersheep is totally right!!
Theres no heart in sanctioning bodies.. Dont try tell me theyr real with theyr shit..
They want the money..How you think ruiz has got two wba titles and a title eliminator in his recent past?
Perhaps money making? perhaps don king's wheeling and dealing?
The wbc has lost alot of credibility too!!
I mean.. Tzsyu dropped the lww title, gatti and some other italian dude..Face off for it..And then They allow floyd to keep picking up and dropping titles just like he did when he took out gatti..
And how come Oscar beats mayorga in what julyor something was it? And hasnt been made to make a mandatory defence of his light middleweight crown..They are just happy to have fighters holding theyr belts who can afford the sanctioning fee's is all!!
MY LIST
1) Wlad
2)Valuev
3)Peter
4)Maskaev
5)BRiggs
6)Lyakowich
7)Brewster
8)Chagaev
9)Toney
10) Brock
just missing out --- Dmitrenko, JC Chapman (sumnitin like that) , Byrd, Rahman,
What i tell you kiddo?Quote:
Originally Posted by landmine950
I even put the fight up for you to watch cos you even said you aint seen it earlier..so stop talkin ishhh
And every one knows that as soon as you result to name calling like a little school girl your beat..
Admit it..You just plain dumb..
Mr ali loses to byrd...
I got a tip for you lay off the pipe sweetcheeks ;)
As a official ranking that would look about right...Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeboxing
Thats mainly records bieng scored i'd say...
But as a fan or in the knowledge of the fighters and theyr styles's i have toney and brock higher..
brewster prob comes about 6..Lyakovich is confusing ..Not a good showing against briggs so im not passin judgement until he fights again
and valuev imo maybe only just makes top five..If that..maybe 7?
He has fought in europe toooooo much
1. Wladdy
2. Peter
3. Valuev
4. Maskaev
5. Briggs
I watched the fight. Props to ya I posted my view on the other thread
Re HBH i included Hung,Beautiful,Bigshot so its not name calling.
I think that the darkhorse here might be Briggs. IF and thats a big if his sh1t punch rate against SL was due to asthma and IF (nother biggy)
It doesnt happen again, He's not too bad. Has some decent tools,size and is a good counter puncher. The big Question is stamina. Sergie Liakovich has no excuse as far as I can tell he just plain sucked.
The Toney/Peter II was the best and worst thing that could have happened to each fighter.
Peter improved Tremendously! Showed a great desire and work ethic in his training, even missing going home for Christmas to train. Erased the controversy of the first fight.
Made EVERYONE fall in love with him by his gracious and humble comments post fight. Showed that he is the best guy to take on the rest of the Heavyweight divison. Came in leaner,increased his punch output,showcased his skills and won the hearts of millions.
Point by point. James Toney did exactly the opposite!
Making a HW top 10 list is hard, Maybe I'll just line em up biggest to smallest...
lets see Oh ya! VALUEV! Klitschko! Briggs! Peter!
where's that short ass Toney oh ya waaayyyy down the list...
The GOOD thing for Toney falling so far down the heavyweight list..
Its right near the top of the Cruiserweight list! Say HI to Chris Byrd for me!
That looks pretty good to me mate!Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeboxing
Briggs has had his whole life to become in shape. He really looked like he embraced good work ethic in his Liakhovich fight. Think about it. This guy was breathing crazy hard. This was a bum who was given one last shot at the world title and that was the preparation. Asthma was just damage control.