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Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Hatton vs Urango
Once again...it's on my fellow forum goer's! The weight is finally over...pun intended! Heh heh heh.
Coming up on Saturday the 20th, 2007 on HBO's World Championship Boxing the British bull dog Ricky "the Hitman" Hatton (41 fights with 30 ko's & 0 losses) comes stateside once again to face undefeated 140 pounder Juan Urango (17 wins with 13ko's, 1 draw, & 0 losses) for the very junior welterweight title that Ricky vacated so many months ago to fight for a title at 147 pounds.
Although...it should be noted (and it's old news and wasted ammuntition now) that Hatton's "Assault on America" didn't quite make the splash that he had expected & his bid at 147 supremacy last May in Boston floundered as he struggled over a 12 rounder with then champion, Luis Collazo. Whether or not you believe in Hatton or not, one thing is for sure...once he climbs through the ropes...action is quick to follow. Although, Collazo was able to put up a hell of a battle...it was only after he had been dropped to the mat in the very first round, much to his dismay. Hatton is, argueably, right back where he belongs...in the thick of things...knee deep once again...in argueably, one of the most talent rich divisions across the board.
As he returns to sort out the mess of his old stomping grounds in the Light Welterweight division, two questions are already being juggled by fans. #1: Will the moves up & down the board hurt Hatton...or better him? #2: Urango. Is he a worthy opponant?
We'll get into that latter...but, let's stick to Hatton for a second.
Ricky has had quite a run.
He's undefeated in 41 fights and he's pulled 30 of those wins off by knockout. With a record full of questionable opponents and even more question marks...it's easy for most American fans and casual viewers alike to write Hatton off...that is until he blazes across the screen and smokes most of his opponants with a style reminescent of a young Roberto Duran. Mix that in with the fact that he was voted as Ring's Fighter of the Year, he blew out Kostya Tszyu in 11 rounds, went on to destroy Carlos Maussa, & stood toe to toe with Luis Collazo at 147lbs...well...it's hard not support the kid...or atleast get thoroughly interested in what "the Hitman" has to offer.
So? Here he is...once again with questions to be answered. The main one being: Will the move back down hurt Hatton? His fans will argue no...all the while his critics constantly remind the fans of the issues that he had during the rise. How a bigger man wasn't so easily bullied and that Urango is also a bigger man...just packaged into a smaller frame. Questions & answers...they always breed more of one than the other...generally they raise more questions. The thing is...Hatton always answers them...& rather dramatically.
Now that wer'e done lauding Ricky Hatton...let's be fair & give Juan Urango his dues. Juan Urango's an undefeated 140lb power house (17 wins, 1 draw, & 13 ko's) who many think is biting off much much more than he can chew stepping in against Hatton...but Hatton has a bit of an axe to grind here as Urango walked into the light welterweight strap that he now holds when Ricky vacated it last May prior to the Collazo fiasco.
Urango picked up the strap in a bid for the vacant strap in June against Ben Rabah during a 12 round stinker at the Seminole Hard Rock Arena in Hollywood, Florida. Now he'll have to go through hell and high water to keep it and also to get a handle on the vacant IBO Light Welterweight strap at the same time.
Personally...I don't give Urango a shot in hell of handling Hatton...he's taylor made for Ricky...no matter what anyone says...Urango lost that fight against Ben Rabah...& if there's any justice...he'll lose this one by knockout.
In Wacko's opinion, this should be a pleasant return to the division that he had taken by storm over the past 4 or 5 years.
If he can come back...and come back on point...with Cotto and Mayweather gone...the 140 pound division will be pretty much wide open and he should have a fairly easy shot at regaining his previous status...unless...unless...another certain someone on the rise were to get in his way...that someone?
Former WBO & WBC Lightweight titlist Jose Luis "El Terrible" Castillo.
Jose Luis Castillo (62 fights, 54 wins with 47 ko's, 7 losses, & 1 draw) is best known for being the one and only man to give P4P champ Floyd Mayweather an actual fight. He also made a name for both he and his fellow combant Diego Corrales in a vicious contest during the WBC-WBO Lightweight Unification match back in 2005.
The match took place on May 7, 2005 and if I am not mistaken it won Ring Magazine's Fight of the Year for 2005. It was a hell of a night indeed...one can only hope, pray, & cross all of his toes and fingers that the same might materialize in a possible fight between Hatton and Castillo later on down the road...but both have challenges just around the bend in front of them on this night...
Or do they?
I don't know alot about Herman Ngoudjo (15 fights with 9 ko's), other than the fact that he has defended his NABF Light Welterweight strap either 6 or 7 times & now holds the WBC's International Light Welter title. I do know this though, both straps are on the line against Castillo...limited knowledge or not...I think that this is a mistake. The thing is...Ngoudjo didn't come here to just hand his title away...he's faced some decent fighters...none as diverse or strong as Castillo...but decent all the same.
That being said when Castillo has something to fight for...he fights and then some. With two titles, redemption, & a possible mega money match up on the line & Ngoudjo standing before him...well...whattaya think the outcome's gonna be?
If wer'e all honest with each other here...both Hatton & Castillo are taking a set of tune-up fights in preperation of a late summer superfight.
Predictions? Hatton by mid round TKO. Castillo UD.
We shall see...as always...break out the chips & salsa & pick your poison of choice! So pops some tops & tilt a few back for ole' Wacko...it's fight night!!!
Cheers & koneecheewah bitches.
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Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Hatton vs Urango
CC#2566 WackOff3205.... ;)
I voted Hatton TKO (as it puts more on him that he should win convincingly, so that when he doesn't I can criticize him ;) and say how it was expected of him to dismantle Urango ;D ) as I think he can destroy Urango and he should cause Urangos got 18 fights to his name.
I also took JLC to win via TKO, mid-way rds. about rd. 7.... 8)
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Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Hatton vs Urango
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CC#2566 WackOff3205.... ;)
:coolclick: right back babe.
Just wasn't sure about picking Castillo by TKO...the other guy's never been stopped or dropped...right?
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CC. Wacko. I am flying out to Vegas to see the fight. I am really excited as it is my first fight in person. I haven't even seem amatuers...or been to Vegas.
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CC#2566 WackOff3205.... ;)
:coolclick: right back babe.
Just wasn't sure about picking Castillo by TKO...the other guy's never been stopped or dropped...right?
From what I've read and seen. Agustus was robbed whe he fough him. ??? But I read it in one of Stars posts..... ;D
Just bull-shetting man!! He was hurt late in the fight by Agustus and dropped for the count in the last round with like 13 seconds left he got up and beat the count as the bell rang and he won a decision. Heres a video of the fight.
[youtube=425,350]6RkFAcirNbM[/youtube]
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He didn't look like much against Augustus but then again who does ??? He seems like he has a good idea on his boxing skills but but Augustus was catching him inside the shots and his hooks with counter hooks and Castillo is one of the bets hookers in the business. And he should catch this guy the same way he caught Corrales. This dude seems to have heart when he's hurt but I think Castillo should stop him.
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Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Hatton vs Urango
Hatton and Castillo to score big TKO's to set up their future bout nicely
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I voted Hatton KO and Castillo UD they should both be very exciting to watch and I'll be dissapointed either one of them underperforms.
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Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Hatton vs Urango
Hatton imo is doing the wrong thing running to 140. The Luiz fight was tough because Luiz was a tough fighter. I could never have seen Hatton lose that fight but he underetimated him and thats what his problem was. Hatton at the end of the day was a 147 champion and he had big names coming for him. But what Hatton feels right ill support him to the end.
140 is his for the taking and we know this. As for oppanants that is a big question that needs adressing. There is that many big names that would make Hatton's name stand out if he beat them. I feel that he has gone to 140 for the easy option but don't get me wrong there are some intresing fights to be made.
Urango imo is a better choice for Hatton. The guy is a world champion and is undeafted. I know he can be questioned as a champion but at the end of the day he is walking in the ring with Hatton's belt. I can't see this being a difficult fight but i dont want Hatton to feel now he has gone back to 140 he is superman. He isn't superman and this guy is more than capable of causing Ricky problems. But if all goes to plan etc etc i feel it should be a win for Hatton by a stoppage because im sure this guy hasnt felt power like Hatton's to the body. But i don't want Hatton to get careless because we know this guy is a major underdog and he would have done his homework on him.
As for the future of Ricky i feel that 3-4 big names could be settled with at 140. I want to see Ricky fight Castillo, Corrales , Witter and finally hopkins. After that he should go to 147 again if not sooner and make some money!
CC for you wack!
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Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Hatton vs Urango
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
CC#2566 WackOff3205.... ;)
:coolclick: right back babe.
Just wasn't sure about picking Castillo by TKO...the other guy's never been stopped or dropped...right?
Wrong. He scraped by Emanuel Augustus with a points win and he was dropped in the 12, and hurt bad. Just recently. He does pretty well for most of the fight and hit Emanuel with lots of hard shots, but he definetly escaped a TKO loss by seconds really. It was a good fight too, but you've got to think if Augustus can hurt him that badly that Castillo should do it much earlier, he doesn't goof around for 8 rounds and has a hell of alot more power. He'll be right at this kid, and is by far the toughest opponent he's ever faced, just as Emanuel was... Im not too keen of Ngoudjo even taking this match because he's definetly got potential, he was an excellent amatuer as well.. But this is too much considering that he was so close to being stopped imo. He does have a couple good wins since then I think, so maybe it'll be a good fight. Im hoping so.
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I'm going for JLC points and Hatton late stoppage. CC Wack for the analysis.
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CC. Wacko. I am flying out to Vegas to see the fight. I am really excited as it is my first fight in person. I haven't even seem amatuers...or been to Vegas.
:coolclick: back. Lucky bastige. Hope you enjoy the match...all 3 to 6 rounds of it. ;D
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As for the future of Ricky i feel that 3-4 big names could be settled with at 140. I want to see Ricky fight Castillo, Corrales , Witter and finally hopkins. After that he should go to 147 again if not sooner and make some money!
CC for you wack!
:coolclick: back. I agree...I think that Witter & Castillo & maybe Hopkins are the fights to take.
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I'm going for JLC points and Hatton late stoppage. CC Wack for the analysis.
:coolclick: right back. Thanks babe.
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Originally Posted by boozeboxer
CC. Wacko. I am flying out to Vegas to see the fight. I am really excited as it is my first fight in person. I haven't even seem amatuers...or been to Vegas.
:coolclick: back. Lucky bastige. Hope you enjoy the match...all 3 to 6 rounds of it. ;D
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
As for the future of Ricky i feel that 3-4 big names could be settled with at 140. I want to see Ricky fight Castillo, Corrales , Witter and finally hopkins. After that he should go to 147 again if not sooner and make some money!
CC for you wack!
:coolclick: back. I agree...I think that Witter & Castillo & maybe Hopkins are the fights to take.
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
I'm going for JLC points and Hatton late stoppage. CC Wack for the analysis.
:coolclick: right back. Thanks babe.
I say Hopkins because i belive in 2-3 time he will be one of the biggest names in the 140 weight devison and the name HOPKINS! would stand out on Hattons record.
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I say Hopkins because i belive in 2-3 time he will be one of the biggest names in the 140 weight devison and the name HOPKINS! would stand out on Hattons record.
Here's the thing, I've been hard up on Demetrius since he started coming up...what with the Nard retiring & me looking for a replacement.
They have the same style & he's starting to get as crafty as his Unc...but I guestion his chin...or atleast I worry about it.
He's upped his defense & he's also upped his power & I see him being a force within his division...but I aint so sure about the outcome against the top 10 guys.
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Once again...it's on my fellow forum goer's! The weight is finally over...pun intended! Heh heh heh.
Coming up on Saturday the 20th, 2007 on HBO's World Championship Boxing the British bull dog Ricky "the Hitman" Hatton (41 fights with 30 ko's & 0 losses) comes stateside once again to face undefeated 140 pounder Juan Urango (17 wins with 13ko's, 1 draw, & 0 losses) for the very junior welterweight title that Ricky vacated so many months ago to fight for a title at 147 pounds.
Although...it should be noted (and it's old news and wasted ammuntition now) that Hatton's "Assault on America" didn't quite make the splash that he had expected & his bid at 147 supremacy last May in Boston floundered as he struggled over a 12 rounder with then champion, Luis Collazo. Whether or not you believe in Hatton or not, one thing is for sure...once he climbs through the ropes...action is quick to follow. Although, Collazo was able to put up a hell of a battle...it was only after he had been dropped to the mat in the very first round, much to his dismay. Hatton is, argueably, right back where he belongs...in the thick of things...knee deep once again...in argueably, one of the most talent rich divisions across the board.
As he returns to sort out the mess of his old stomping grounds in the Light Welterweight division, two questions are already being juggled by fans. #1: Will the moves up & down the board hurt Hatton...or better him? #2: Urango. Is he a worthy opponant?
We'll get into that latter...but, let's stick to Hatton for a second.
Ricky has had quite a run.
He's undefeated in 41 fights and he's pulled 30 of those wins off by knockout. With a record full of questionable opponents and even more question marks...it's easy for most American fans and casual viewers alike to write Hatton off...that is until he blazes across the screen and smokes most of his opponants with a style reminescent of a young Roberto Duran. Mix that in with the fact that he was voted as Ring's Fighter of the Year, he blew out Kostya Tszyu in 11 rounds, went on to destroy Carlos Maussa, & stood toe to toe with Luis Collazo at 147lbs...well...it's hard not support the kid...or atleast get thoroughly interested in what "the Hitman" has to offer.
So? Here he is...once again with questions to be answered. The main one being: Will the move back down hurt Hatton? His fans will argue no...all the while his critics constantly remind the fans of the issues that he had during the rise. How a bigger man wasn't so easily bullied and that Urango is also a bigger man...just packaged into a smaller frame. Questions & answers...they always breed more of one than the other...generally they raise more questions. The thing is...Hatton always answers them...& rather dramatically.
Now that wer'e done lauding Ricky Hatton...let's be fair & give Juan Urango his dues. Juan Urango's an undefeated 140lb power house (17 wins, 1 draw, & 13 ko's) who many think is biting off much much more than he can chew stepping in against Hatton...but Hatton has a bit of an axe to grind here as Urango walked into the light welterweight strap that he now holds when Ricky vacated it last May prior to the Collazo fiasco.
Urango picked up the strap in a bid for the vacant strap in June against Ben Rabah during a 12 round stinker at the Seminole Hard Rock Arena in Hollywood, Florida. Now he'll have to go through hell and high water to keep it and also to get a handle on the vacant IBO Light Welterweight strap at the same time.
Personally...I don't give Urango a shot in hell of handling Hatton...he's taylor made for Ricky...no matter what anyone says...Urango lost that fight against Ben Rabah...& if there's any justice...he'll lose this one by knockout.
In Wacko's opinion, this should be a pleasant return to the division that he had taken by storm over the past 4 or 5 years.
If he can come back...and come back on point...with Cotto and Mayweather gone...the 140 pound division will be pretty much wide open and he should have a fairly easy shot at regaining his previous status...unless...unless...another certain someone on the rise were to get in his way...that someone?
Former WBO & WBC Lightweight titlist Jose Luis "El Terrible" Castillo.
Jose Luis Castillo (62 fights, 54 wins with 47 ko's, 7 losses, & 1 draw) is best known for being the one and only man to give P4P champ Floyd Mayweather an actual fight. He also made a name for both he and his fellow combant Diego Corrales in a vicious contest during the WBC-WBO Lightweight Unification match back in 2005.
The match took place on May 7, 2005 and if I am not mistaken it won Ring Magazine's Fight of the Year for 2005. It was a hell of a night indeed...one can only hope, pray, & cross all of his toes and fingers that the same might materialize in a possible fight between Hatton and Castillo later on down the road...but both have challenges just around the bend in front of them on this night...
Or do they?
I don't know alot about Herman Ngoudjo (15 fights with 9 ko's), other than the fact that he has defended his NABF Light Welterweight strap either 6 or 7 times & now holds the WBC's International Light Welter title. I do know this though, both straps are on the line against Castillo...limited knowledge or not...I think that this is a mistake. The thing is...Ngoudjo didn't come here to just hand his title away...he's faced some decent fighters...none as diverse or strong as Castillo...but decent all the same.
That being said when Castillo has something to fight for...he fights and then some. With two titles, redemption, & a possible mega money match up on the line & Ngoudjo standing before him...well...whattaya think the outcome's gonna be?
If wer'e all honest with each other here...both Hatton & Castillo are taking a set of tune-up fights in preperation of a late summer superfight.
Predictions? Hatton by mid round TKO. Castillo UD.
We shall see...as always...break out the chips & salsa & pick your poison of choice! So pops some tops & tilt a few back for ole' Wacko...it's fight night!!!
Cheers & koneecheewah bitches.
:coolclick: for the write up fella;
I think after this hatton needs JLC, depending how witter does him for domestic value and then move up. I really don't think we seen the best of hatton in his last fight, and he has taken alot of unnecessary criesism from it. he needs a few more names and JCL is one, Unless any top guys come down from 147 he will have to move up and chase them.
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:coolclick: for the write up fella;
I think after this hatton needs JLC, depending how witter does him for domestic value and then move up. I really don't think we seen the best of hatton in his last fight, and he has taken alot of unnecessary criesism from it. he needs a few more names and JCL is one, Unless any top guys come down from 147 he will have to move up and chase them.
:coolclick: back doggy.
Agreed...Castillo is the fight that must be made...& you can believe that this is the set up for it.
Who do you think pulls the win out in that one?
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Originally Posted by Preme
:coolclick: for the write up fella;
I think after this hatton needs JLC, depending how witter does him for domestic value and then move up. I really don't think we seen the best of hatton in his last fight, and he has taken alot of unnecessary criesism from it. he needs a few more names and JCL is one, Unless any top guys come down from 147 he will have to move up and chase them.
:coolclick: back doggy.
Agreed...Castillo is the fight that must be made...& you can believe that this is the set up for it.
Who do you think pulls the win out in that one?
both very much alike, but i think hatton has a much better chin, regardless of how past it kosta was, he could still pack a punch and hatton never looked to fazed, castillo has been down and hurt. the only time i really seen hatotn look in trouble was with collazo, collazo isnt a puncher, but to me hatton looked drained, and the punches wern't realy to the chin more of a mix of alot taken to the head and a tired hatton.
I would go for hatton late stoppage, i think their styles make for an amazing fight, and highly doubt it will go the full 12. I think we will all learn a more about castillo with this coming fight, first time officaly at this wait, i don't see it being a problem, but i think we will have a better idea at the end of the night, but now i say hatton TKO/Ko aroudn the 10th, you?
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....but now i say hatton TKO/Ko aroudn the 10th, you?
I say earlier than that.
Unless Hatton is hammered from the weight loss...it'll be early.
Seriously...for some reason everyone here really doesn't know how badly Urango blows.
He sucks...seriously. Anyone that saw the Rabah fight knows.
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:coolclick: for the write up fella;
I think after this hatton needs JLC, depending how witter does him for domestic value and then move up. I really don't think we seen the best of hatton in his last fight, and he has taken alot of unnecessary criesism from it. he needs a few more names and JCL is one, Unless any top guys come down from 147 he will have to move up and chase them.
:coolclick: back doggy.
Agreed...Castillo is the fight that must be made...& you can believe that this is the set up for it.
Who do you think pulls the win out in that one?
both very much alike, but i think hatton has a much better chin, regardless of how past it kosta was, he could still pack a punch and hatton never looked to fazed, castillo has been down and hurt. the only time i really seen hatotn look in trouble was with collazo, collazo isnt a puncher, but to me hatton looked drained, and the punches wern't realy to the chin more of a mix of alot taken to the head and a tired hatton.
I would go for hatton late stoppage, i think their styles make for an amazing fight, and highly doubt it will go the full 12. I think we will all learn a more about castillo with this coming fight, first time officaly at this wait, i don't see it being a problem, but i think we will have a better idea at the end of the night, but now i say hatton TKO/Ko aroudn the 10th, you?
Castillo has been hurt, but never been knocked down to my recollection, he's had some fights stopped by cuts and ref stoppage.
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I say Hopkins because i belive in 2-3 time he will be one of the biggest names in the 140 weight devison and the name HOPKINS! would stand out on Hattons record.
Here's the thing, I've been hard up on Demetrius since he started coming up...what with the Nard retiring & me looking for a replacement.
They have the same style & he's starting to get as crafty as his Unc...but I guestion his chin...or atleast I worry about it.
He's upped his defense & he's also upped his power & I see him being a force within his division...but I aint so sure about the outcome against the top 10 guys.
I agree with what your saying but in the future i feel after some good experience at fighting at the top and being trained well, i do feel that he will be at the top of his game. People in 140 are getting older and D HOP has time on them. IMO i really think after a few years he could be a champ maybe even earlier. He may have to fight a not so good champ or a vacant belt fight, but i still think he will get a belt. In the future i can only seeing him going forward, not backwards and thats why i feel this fight would favour Hatton.
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I say Hopkins because i belive in 2-3 time he will be one of the biggest names in the 140 weight devison and the name HOPKINS! would stand out on Hattons record.
Here's the thing, I've been hard up on Demetrius since he started coming up...what with the Nard retiring & me looking for a replacement.
They have the same style & he's starting to get as crafty as his Unc...but I guestion his chin...or atleast I worry about it.
He's upped his defense & he's also upped his power & I see him being a force within his division...but I aint so sure about the outcome against the top 10 guys.
I agree with what your saying but in the future i feel after some good experience at fighting at the top and being trained well, i do feel that he will be at the top of his game. People in 140 are getting older and D HOP has time on them. IMO i really think after a few years he could be a champ maybe even earlier. He may have to fight a not so good champ or a vacant belt fight, but i still think he will get a belt. In the future i can only seeing him going forward, not backwards and thats why i feel this fight would favour Hatton.
Truer words couldn't be spoken. The thing about Demetrius is that he has been improving...with each showing. He should go far if matched correctly.
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Seriously...for some reason everyone here really doesn't know how badly Urango blows.
He sucks...seriously. Anyone that saw the Rabah fight knows.
Yeah but have you seen his six pack? ;D
Not good I agree, but I reckon he'll be tough enough to see it into the later rounds. The guy has fathered 75 children for fucks sake, he's got balls.
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It would be intresting to see how his future unfolds.
As for Hatton i really want to see how this fight goes for him. I feel if he goes the distance in a boring match up maybe staying at 140 wouldnt be wise. I know he is out of his depth at 147 but he could make real cash there. What do you feel about Hatton returing to 147 if this fight dont work for him? I do feel that Hatton has promised a lot at 140 and if he dont deliver imo i feel that this would not favour him. In the long run he might stay undeafted and be a champ. But he would be forced to do his mandatorie fights and this will only weaken Hatton because he is getting older. If he didnt take those fights he would lose his belt and its back to square one again. I just dont feel that going back to 140 has done him much justice because the level of competetion isnt so great.
Looking back to Hattons 147 phase, he was unpreped we know that. He also and we didnt no much about Luiz and didnt expect it to be so close. Therefore Hatton took him lightly and paid the price imo. But at the end of the day he did win the fight and beat another world champion at a different weight. It wasnt too bad of an effort imo. If Hatton had stayed at 147 i feel his name could only have grown. I feel Hatton should have stayed there and fought his mantatore fight and that could have given him more experience at 147. He would have prepared for 8 weeks and had a full camp etc etc. I feel after a couple more fights and maybe even giving Colloza a rematch it would have boosted him enough for going for the bigger names and getting the big wage etc etc.
I really do not feel Hatton should have gone to 140, when he had a long way to go at 147. He will leave it too late and all the big names would have moved on.
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The guy has fathered 75 children for fucks sake, he's got balls.
Hatton or Urango? Heh heh heh.
I kid. ;D
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Aparently Urango has fathered 7 kids and knows the name of five of them ;D
He and Violent demise must be friends.
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Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Hatton vs Urango
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Originally Posted by Memphis
Aparently Urango has fathered 7 kids and knows the name of five of them ;D
He and Violent demise must be friends.
:coolclick: What Violent Demise wants...he get's. ;D Heh heh heh.
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Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Hatton vs Urango
Just not paternity suits filed against him ;D
CC back ;)
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Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Hatton vs Urango
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by Preme
....but now i say hatton TKO/Ko aroudn the 10th, you?
I say earlier than that.
Unless Hatton is hammered from the weight loss...it'll be early.
Seriously...for some reason everyone here really doesn't know how badly Urango blows.
He sucks...seriously. Anyone that saw the Rabah fight knows.
my bad:p i thught you meant how would i see hatton v castillo go..
Well, hatton should wrap this urango fight up by the 7th round or risk more questions ebing asked about him. i aint seen to much of this urango fella, but i expect hatton to finish it around 6-8 round
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Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Hatton vs Urango
How does that work exactly? Your expecting him to finish a fight by the 8th round against someone that you know little about, who has never been decked or stopped, Im just curious as to how people are coming up with these predictions?
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Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Hatton vs Urango
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Originally Posted by Memphis
How does that work exactly? Your expecting him to finish a fight by the 8th round against someone that you know little about, who has never been decked or stopped, Im just curious as to how people are coming up with these predictions?
Because from what I have seen from Urango (only two fights mind you, Ben Rabah and Arnoutis)
He is a completely one-dimensional almost always just walks forward (wide open) and swings one hard shot.
He has a non-exsistant inside game. Compare that with Hatton, who will get inside and throw non-stop punches to the body and what other outcome can you expect?
The speed factor is huge in this fight, Hatton will get off a minimum of 3 punches to every one of Urango's.
I don't think anyone has the Urango catalog at home, so this is all we can go on.
Memphis based on you experience do you see any way for Urango to win?
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Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Hatton vs Urango
No. He has a punchers chance but thats it. Im not trying to make a case for Urango here because I dont think he has one. Its just that all this Hatton will beat him before half way stuff thats being banded about has got me puzzled. Ricks no one punch artist and going on the fact that Urango has never been on the deck or stopped I have to assume that he has a decent chin on him. Granted he will have never experiencd anything like Hatton coming at him none stop and he may wilt under the pressure, I just expect it to take a little longer than many people are expecting.
P.S. I hope the people that pick Hatton early are right by the way ;)
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Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Hatton vs Urango
Oliveria hadn't been stopped until Ricky burst his eardrum :D
Hatton will wear him down and finish him in the later rounds
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Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Hatton vs Urango
Which kind of echos my point. Hatton gave Oliviera a serious beating yet he would probably have lasted the course if not for the ear;)
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Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Hatton vs Urango
I voted for Hatton and Castillo to both win by TKO.
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Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Hatton vs Urango
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Originally Posted by Majesty
He didn't look like much against Augustus but then again who does ??? He seems like he has a good idea on his boxing skills but but Augustus was catching him inside the shots and his hooks with counter hooks and Castillo is one of the bets hookers in the business. And he should catch this guy the same way he caught Corrales. This dude seems to have heart when he's hurt but I think Castillo should stop him.
He kept his composure well against the ass clown Augustus ! ,, and won the fight. don't understand what all the controversy is about ?? Augustus mock the sport with foolishness, and I always enjoy him getting beat like snuff queen.
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Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Hatton vs Urango
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by Majesty
He didn't look like much against Augustus but then again who does ??? He seems like he has a good idea on his boxing skills but but Augustus was catching him inside the shots and his hooks with counter hooks and Castillo is one of the bets hookers in the business. And he should catch this guy the same way he caught Corrales. This dude seems to have heart when he's hurt but I think Castillo should stop him.
He kept his composure well against the a** clown Augustus ! ,, and won the fight. don't understand what all the controversy is about ?? Augustus mock the sport with foolishness, and I always enjoy him getting beat like snuff queen.
I don't share that view point like many do... This is boxing, not basketball or football... Augustus doesn't have a team to let down, he doesn't have a contract to abide by... It's the fight game, if a guy is clowning around during a fight, there's a pretty simple answer... Hit them. If the other fighter can't stop him from clowning around and still winning rounds, then what's the harm, he's simply outclassing his opponent.. If he dances around even though the other guy is winning the fight, the judges and everyone watching will obviously see this, and yet still if the other guy can't do enough damage to stop him from clowning, well, tough.. Lots of guys clinch and run even though they are losing a fight badly, and they aren't brought up as a disgrace to the sport so frequently like Emanuel is.. Personally Id much rather watch clowning.. Besides that, he fights absolutely anyone he can, anywhere, on their terms, I think that kind of earns him the right to fight his fight, you know?
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Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Hatton vs Urango
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Originally Posted by p4pking
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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He didn't look like much against Augustus but then again who does ??? He seems like he has a good idea on his boxing skills but but Augustus was catching him inside the shots and his hooks with counter hooks and Castillo is one of the bets hookers in the business. And he should catch this guy the same way he caught Corrales. This dude seems to have heart when he's hurt but I think Castillo should stop him.
He kept his composure well against the a** clown Augustus ! ,, and won the fight. don't understand what all the controversy is about ?? Augustus mock the sport with foolishness, and I always enjoy him getting beat like snuff queen.
I don't share that view point like many do... This is boxing, not basketball or football... Augustus doesn't have a team to let down, he doesn't have a contract to abide by... It's the fight game, if a guy is clowning around during a fight, there's a pretty simple answer... Hit them. If the other fighter can't stop him from clowning around and still winning rounds, then what's the harm, he's simply outclassing his opponent.. If he dances around even though the other guy is winning the fight, the judges and everyone watching will obviously see this, and yet still if the other guy can't do enough damage to stop him from clowning, well, tough.. Lots of guys clinch and run even though they are losing a fight badly, and they aren't brought up as a disgrace to the sport so frequently like Emanuel is.. Personally Id much rather watch clowning.. Besides that, he fights absolutely anyone he can, anywhere, on their terms, I think that kind of earns him the right to fight his fight, you know?
I agree with p4pking here, if he wants to look like an ass out there, let him. Styles like his and Solimon's keep fighters on their toes, because it's something you can't train for. Fighters like that make great gatekeepers. I have no problem with it personally.
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Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Hatton vs Urango
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Hatton imo is doing the wrong thing running to 140. The Luiz fight was tough because Luiz was a tough fighter. I could never have seen Hatton lose that fight but he underetimated him and thats what his problem was. Hatton at the end of the day was a 147 champion and he had big names coming for him. But what Hatton feels right ill support him to the end.
140 is his for the taking and we know this. As for oppanants that is a big question that needs adressing. There is that many big names that would make Hatton's name stand out if he beat them. I feel that he has gone to 140 for the easy option but don't get me wrong there are some intresing fights to be made.
Urango imo is a better choice for Hatton. The guy is a world champion and is undeafted. I know he can be questioned as a champion but at the end of the day he is walking in the ring with Hatton's belt. I can't see this being a difficult fight but i dont want Hatton to feel now he has gone back to 140 he is superman. He isn't superman and this guy is more than capable of causing Ricky problems. But if all goes to plan etc etc i feel it should be a win for Hatton by a stoppage because im sure this guy hasnt felt power like Hatton's to the body. But i don't want Hatton to get careless because we know this guy is a major underdog and he would have done his homework on him.
As for the future of Ricky i feel that 3-4 big names could be settled with at 140. I want to see Ricky fight Castillo, Corrales , Witter and finally hopkins. After that he should go to 147 again if not sooner and make some money!
CC for you wack!
Why does everyone seem to think Hatton under-estimated Collazo? Just because it was a tough fight? He knew it was going to be tough. What did he do in training that makes you think he under-estimated him?
Why do you want to see hatton fight Hopkins? Hopkins is on about moving upto heavyweight for maskaev and you want him to be fightin Hatton? Bit weird.
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Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Hatton vs Urango
He means Demetrius Hopkins ;D
Although BHop is more than happy to slap around smaller guys so it could happen ;)
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Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds Hatton vs Urango
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Originally Posted by ono
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Hatton imo is doing the wrong thing running to 140. The Luiz fight was tough because Luiz was a tough fighter. I could never have seen Hatton lose that fight but he underetimated him and thats what his problem was. Hatton at the end of the day was a 147 champion and he had big names coming for him. But what Hatton feels right ill support him to the end.
140 is his for the taking and we know this. As for oppanants that is a big question that needs adressing. There is that many big names that would make Hatton's name stand out if he beat them. I feel that he has gone to 140 for the easy option but don't get me wrong there are some intresing fights to be made.
Urango imo is a better choice for Hatton. The guy is a world champion and is undeafted. I know he can be questioned as a champion but at the end of the day he is walking in the ring with Hatton's belt. I can't see this being a difficult fight but i dont want Hatton to feel now he has gone back to 140 he is superman. He isn't superman and this guy is more than capable of causing Ricky problems. But if all goes to plan etc etc i feel it should be a win for Hatton by a stoppage because im sure this guy hasnt felt power like Hatton's to the body. But i don't want Hatton to get careless because we know this guy is a major underdog and he would have done his homework on him.
As for the future of Ricky i feel that 3-4 big names could be settled with at 140. I want to see Ricky fight Castillo, Corrales , Witter and finally hopkins. After that he should go to 147 again if not sooner and make some money!
CC for you wack!
Why does everyone seem to think Hatton under-estimated Collazo? Just because it was a tough fight? He knew it was going to be tough. What did he do in training that makes you think he under-estimated him?
Why do you want to see hatton fight Hopkins? Hopkins is on about moving upto heavyweight for maskaev and you want him to be fightin Hatton? Bit weird.
He did underestimate luiz like i did. I aint even heard of the guy before the fight. he didnt have a full training camp he was going into the wild and he was unprepared and he had a bad night on the night. He didnt take him fully and im sure he said that after the fight as well.
i ment DHOP bro ;)