The other heavy's...

Well so there big arguement who gets the top five and who beats who at heavyweight...
So aside from Peter and vladdy...
Who beats who to take the spots...

Interesting ones..

Maskaev - Brigg's

Toney- Valuev

Brewster - Byrd

You get the picture we match em up against eachother hypothetically and discuss who and how they pull it off...

Mix them up..
Tell us who wins..AND why..I dont want ..Briggs ko's maskaev..Why does he ko oleg? And how did you come to the conclusion..

First off...

Maskaev - Briggs shall we say?

Peace

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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB

Well so there big arguement who gets the top five and who beats who at heavyweight...
So aside from Peter and vladdy...
Who beats who to take the spots...

Interesting ones..

Maskaev - Brigg's

Toney- Valuev

Brewster - Byrd

You get the picture we match em up against eachother hypothetically and discuss who and how they pull it off...

Mix them up..
Tell us who wins..AND why..I dont want ..Briggs ko's maskaev..Why does he ko oleg? And how did you come to the conclusion..

First off...

Maskaev - Briggs shall we say?

Peace

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Damn, I forgot about all those other guys. LOL

Let start with my old mate Evander Holyfield... A fucking warrior he is, I say ! 43 years old, and all healed up .. let me size up the situation for yeah !

Maskaev -vs- Holyfield = W Holyfield 8th TKO = Good fight
Briggs -vs- Holyfield = W Holyfield 6th KO = Evander total domination
Peter -vs- Holyfield = W Holyfield 12 Unan Dec = just like the Mercer fight ( Peter out classed) has some success early

Klichko -vs- Holyfield = W Holyfield 7th R KO = Wlad down half a dozen times. poor balance and stamina no chin
Valuve -vs- Holyfield = W 12 Unan Dec = Holyfield owns this guy !
Brewster -vs- Holyfield = w 11 KO = Brewster is game early but loses it late .

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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB

Well so there big arguement who gets the top five and who beats who at heavyweight...
So aside from Peter and vladdy...
Who beats who to take the spots...

Interesting ones..

Maskaev - Brigg's

Toney- Valuev

Brewster - Byrd

You get the picture we match em up against eachother hypothetically and discuss who and how they pull it off...

Mix them up..
Tell us who wins..AND why..I dont want ..Briggs ko's maskaev..Why does he ko oleg? And how did you come to the conclusion..

First off...

Maskaev - Briggs shall we say?

Peace

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Damn, I forgot about all those other guys. LOL

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Seriously sort your attitude out...

Why you think i did that? i put up examples and said right we'll do one at a time..
Hence the phrase..' FIRST OFF '

If theres ten discussions on at once.. People are gona wonder from fight to fight and none are getting done..Resulting in ten arguments at one time..

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Let start with my old mate Evander Holyfield... A fucking warrior he is, I say ! 43 years old, and all healed up .. let me size up the situation for yeah !

Maskaev -vs- Holyfield = W Holyfield 8th TKO = Good fight
Briggs -vs- Holyfield = W Holyfield 6th KO = Evander total domination
Peter -vs- Holyfield = W Holyfield 12 Unan Dec = just like the Mercer fight ( Peter out classed) has some success early

Klichko -vs- Holyfield = W Holyfield 7th R KO = Wlad down half a dozen times. poor balance and stamina no chin
Valuve -vs- Holyfield = W 12 Unan Dec = Holyfield owns this guy !
Brewster -vs- Holyfield = w 11 KO = Brewster is game early but loses it late .

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Good idea from Lg...

We'll take that and run with it...
One fighter at one time.. And match em up...

Oh and Lord's .... Were doing as they are now.. not prime for prime ;)

BYrs - Brewster -- Byrd UD
Toney - Valuev -- close but Valuev too big wins decision
Briggs - Maskaev -- Briggs Ko
Peter- Wlad 2 -- Peter Ko early
Liakowich- Brock -- Liakowich Sd

David Tua .. let me size up the situation for yeah ! where is that crystal ball damit??? auhh here we go :hypnodisk: :hypnotized:

Maskaev -vs- Tua = W Tua 11th TKO = Good fight

Briggs -vs- Tua = W Tua 9th KO = Good fight , Tua even ahead on the cards at the time of KO for a change ;) .

Peter -vs- Tua = W D 12= ?? Fucking great war ! this is great match ! HBO get your checkbook out !

Klichko -vs- Tua = W Tua 6th R KO = Wlad does not have the Lewis Footwork and would fall like a tree in rot .

Valuve -vs- Tua = W Tua 5th R KO , Tua would make himself even shorter and use it to his advantage. let Valuve come to him and then banggggggggggggggggggg

Brewster -vs- Tua = W Tua 10th R KO = Brewster is ahead on the cards early but loses it late . Tua have the late round KO power . the lack of conditioning in the HW division is perfect for Tua who like Foreman walks his man down, and eventually cashes out the opponents ! O0

If were doing holyfield im gona start now and hit the hay..

Holyfield - Brigg's.. Perhaps the one heavyweight he beat's..
If holyfield truely is hungry for this last world title then he'll have his A game on and keep movement going
and make it especially hard for briggs to get too him for the early rounds..Then he can work off experiance from the 5th round onwards..Ud Evander.

Toney..Already happened. Toney tko 9.

Byrd.Happened Ud byrd.

Maskaev.. If its true that the last thing you loose is your punch then holyfield has the chance to either stop him by tko or ud by blasting often.. Evander has the heart If he chooses to use it and i can see him getting into good enough shape to keep good punches going throughout the fight..
Oleg is known for his glass jaw.. and his only pair of significant wins are against rahman.
And evander is known for his chin.. so i think Evander late tko or ud.

Valuev... Never been tested by anyone like evander, I see this going down like the second fight with ruiz.. But i also think that val's punches are too blunt and he's not busy enough to stop evander so if evander outworks valuev then i say Ud. holyfield..

Anyone else for evander holyfield?
Peace

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BYrs - Brewster -- Byrd UD
Toney - Valuev -- close but Valuev too big wins decision
Briggs - Maskaev -- Briggs Ko
Peter- Wlad 2 -- Peter Ko early
Liakowich- Brock -- Liakowich Sd

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Dude ..Thats just stating results? No thoughts on how you came to those conclusions..?
Peace..

And catchyou all tomorow..Im hitting the hay

If Briggs was able to get his asthma in order, he would have a good chance against anyone in the division. He has the power the size and the hand speed the we don't see too much in todays heavys.

Is Lord's Gym David Tua?

I am a believer in styles make fights... Holyfield and David Tua will always fill seats and draw interest cause they come to fight . no hugging, and all that bullshit, even at 43, Evander want to go to war. ! O0 Tua is getting that weight down and will be ready to go very soon ! things are going to be good for the short term cause of these old timers hanging around along with the Peter win over Toney . ! then hopefully Eddie Chambers, and Chazz Witherspoon can make a splash and get the ball rolling on the new phase of the HW division “ in shape, action packed, good hands speed , good balance . Something the division has lacked for the last 7 years ! New blood ! Good Blood ! Out with freak shows and in with the talent ! O0

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Is Lord's Gym David Tua?

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No

sorry i staryed, started to vent.. ;) the HW's frustrate me !

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David Tua .. let me size up the situation for yeah ! where is that crystal ball damit??? auhh here we go :hypnodisk: :hypnotized:

Maskaev -vs- Tua = W Tua 11th TKO = Good fight

Briggs -vs- Tua = W Tua 9th KO = Good fight , Tua even ahead on the cards at the time of KO for a change ;) .

Peter -vs- Tua = W D 12= ?? F****** great war ! this is great match ! HBO get your checkbook out !

Klichko -vs- Tua = W Tua 6th R KO = Wlad does not have the Lewis Footwork and would fall like a tree in rot .

Valuve -vs- Tua = W Tua 5th R KO , Tua would make himself even shorter and use it to his advantage. let Valuve come to him and then banggggggggggggggggggg

Brewster -vs- Tua = W Tua 10th R KO = Brewster is ahead on the cards early but loses it late . Tua have the late round KO power . the lack of conditioning in the HW division is perfect for Tua who like Foreman walks his man down, and eventually cashes out the opponents ! O0

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Let's see he takes 2 years off His last fight he takes on (last minite replacement) Maurice Wheeler some Tub of lard who 10-8-1 with one Ko!! ooooohhhhhh,, Tua takes 7 rounds and is losing the fight with a bloody nose! He then hits the guy with 2 low blows to stop him in the 7th.
Oh ya!! bring on the belt holders!
Tua showed against Lewis, He doesnt have what it takes against big tall technical fighters. I always kinda liked the guy so i'll give him a punchers chance against Briggs,Maskaev and Peters.
Against Klitschko and Valuev NONE.
Although Valuev does crouch down and put the earmuffs on when hurt I don't think he bends down low enough for TUA to hit him on the chin unless Tua stands on the corner stool.
Come on Lord's gym... get real! the dream is over. (at least for now)

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David Tua .. let me size up the situation for yeah ! where is that crystal ball damit??? auhh here we go :hypnodisk: :hypnotized:

Maskaev -vs- Tua = W Tua 11th TKO = Good fight

Briggs -vs- Tua = W Tua 9th KO = Good fight , Tua even ahead on the cards at the time of KO for a change ;) .

Peter -vs- Tua = W D 12= ?? F****** great war ! this is great match ! HBO get your checkbook out !

Klichko -vs- Tua = W Tua 6th R KO = Wlad does not have the Lewis Footwork and would fall like a tree in rot .

Valuve -vs- Tua = W Tua 5th R KO , Tua would make himself even shorter and use it to his advantage. let Valuve come to him and then banggggggggggggggggggg

Brewster -vs- Tua = W Tua 10th R KO = Brewster is ahead on the cards early but loses it late . Tua have the late round KO power . the lack of conditioning in the HW division is perfect for Tua who like Foreman walks his man down, and eventually cashes out the opponents ! O0

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Let's see he takes 2 years off His last fight he takes on (last minite replacement) Maurice Wheeler some Tub of lard who 10-8-1 with one Ko!! ooooohhhhhh,, Tua takes 7 rounds and is losing the fight with a bloody nose! He then hits the guy with 2 low blows to stop him in the 7th.
Oh ya!! bring on the belt holders!
Tua showed against Lewis, He doesnt have what it takes against big tall technical fighters. I always kinda liked the guy so i'll give him a punchers chance against Briggs,Maskaev and Peters.
Against Klitschko and Valuev NONE.
Although Valuev does crouch down and put the earmuffs on when hurt I don't think he bends down low enough for TUA to hit him on the chin unless Tua stands on the corner stool.
Come on Lord's gym... get real! the dream is over. (at least for now)

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Tua would spark valuev in a minute...
Valuev isnt busy enough to disrupt tua's rythym and tua would be handed enough time to wind up a mad power shot and drop the giant.

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Let start with my old mate Evander Holyfield... A F****** warrior he is, I say ! 43 years old, and all healed up .. let me size up the situation for yeah !

Maskaev -vs- Holyfield = W Holyfield 8th TKO = Good fight
Briggs -vs- Holyfield = W Holyfield 6th KO = Evander total domination
Peter -vs- Holyfield = W Holyfield 12 Unan Dec = just like the Mercer fight ( Peter out classed) has some success early

Klichko -vs- Holyfield = W Holyfield 7th R KO = Wlad down half a dozen times. poor balance and stamina no chin
Valuve -vs- Holyfield = W 12 Unan Dec = Holyfield owns this guy !
Brewster -vs- Holyfield = w 11 KO = Brewster is game early but loses it late .

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a quote from the Guinness guys... BRILLIANT!
however, i believe the klitschko fight could end alittle differently, vladdy uses that jab all day long like lewis did

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Let start with my old mate Evander Holyfield... A F****** warrior he is, I say ! 43 years old, and all healed up .. let me size up the situation for yeah !

Maskaev -vs- Holyfield = W Holyfield 8th TKO = Good fight
Briggs -vs- Holyfield = W Holyfield 6th KO = Evander total domination
Peter -vs- Holyfield = W Holyfield 12 Unan Dec = just like the Mercer fight ( Peter out classed) has some success early

Klichko -vs- Holyfield = W Holyfield 7th R KO = Wlad down half a dozen times. poor balance and stamina no chin
Valuve -vs- Holyfield = W 12 Unan Dec = Holyfield owns this guy !
Brewster -vs- Holyfield = w 11 KO = Brewster is game early but loses it late .

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a quote from the Guinness guys... BRILLIANT!
however, i believe the klitschko fight could end alittle differently, vladdy uses that jab all day long like lewis did

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right on my brother ! Cool Click .. ;) I just don't think Wlad has the footwork and would eventually get caught ! Lewis was much better over all , then Klitchko is , just my opinion...However I must admit, I am a fan of neither. These Tall Heavyweights like to foul by using holding as a strategy ! A steady does over the last few years , has killed the HW divison . Manny is partly to blame for that ! jab jab and fucking hold, makes my dik itch! :laugh: O0

You all live in F.W. (fantasy world). Wlad doesn't lose to Holyfield.

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You all live in F.W. (fantasy world). Wlad doesn't lose to Holyfield.

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I love fantasy World ! nice place ! wouldn't want to live there though ! :laugh:

I very well could be wrong Lords Gym; but the way Klitschko uses the jab, his size, and power... I think it would just be too much for the smaller Holyfield. but hey, that would be cool if Evander could pull it off.

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I very well could be wrong Lords Gym; but the way Klitschko uses the jab, his size, and power... I think it would just be too much for the smaller Holyfield. but hey, that would be cool if Evander could pull it off.

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yeah you can make a case for Klitchko winning that fight. and would have tons of support... Wlad would be popular choise for winner...I just have a feeling that Evander have what it take to win ! O0

I really think that Father Time has given Evander alot of unanswered punches. Thats what really beat him.

Father time is on the take ! ;) another words If you pay him in good clean living. and excellent conditioning he will give you an extension on your contract . Evander is conditioned young, but like you say he needs to close the show pretty damn soon . Evander need to get done, what he need to get done ! ASAP . ;) O0

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Father time is on the take ! ;) another words If you pay him in good clean living. and excellent conditioning he will give you an extension on your contract . Evander is conditioned young, but like you say he needs to close the show pretty damn soon . Evander need to get done, what he need to get done ! ASAP . ;) O0

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No doubt. he needs to pick someone he MIGHT be able to beat.
Mask? Briggs? offer them as much money as it takes! do it now!
Evander is not in good shape mentally! he's already slurring his words and rambling! just listen to this!


[youtube=425,350]LWPr6wEWHYg[/youtube]

Evander been doing that forever ! Holyfield is as country as a chicken coupe ! ! he always talk like this ! ;D funny video by the way ! Cool Click in 24 ! O0

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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB

Well so there big arguement who gets the top five and who beats who at heavyweight...
So aside from Peter and vladdy...
Who beats who to take the spots...

Interesting ones..

Maskaev - Brigg's

Toney- Valuev

Brewster - Byrd

You get the picture we match em up against eachother hypothetically and discuss who and how they pull it off...

Mix them up..
Tell us who wins..AND why..I dont want ..Briggs ko's maskaev..Why does he ko oleg? And how did you come to the conclusion..

First off...

Maskaev - Briggs shall we say?

Peace

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CC to you bro.

I do like to see Toney vs Byrd at any weight . If only Toney can lose punds

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David Tua .. let me size up the situation for yeah ! where is that crystal ball damit??? auhh here we go :hypnodisk: :hypnotized:

Maskaev -vs- Tua = W Tua 11th TKO = Good fight

Briggs -vs- Tua = W Tua 9th KO = Good fight , Tua even ahead on the cards at the time of KO for a change ;) .

Peter -vs- Tua = W D 12= ?? F****** great war ! this is great match ! HBO get your checkbook out !











Klichko -vs- Tua = W Tua 6th R KO = Wlad does not have the Lewis Footwork and would fall like a tree in rot .

Valuve -vs- Tua = W Tua 5th R KO , Tua would make himself even shorter and use it to his advantage. let Valuve come to him and then banggggggggggggggggggg

Brewster -vs- Tua = W Tua 10th R KO = Brewster is ahead on the cards early but loses it late . Tua have the late round KO power . the lack of conditioning in the HW division is perfect for Tua who like Foreman walks his man down, and eventually cashes out the opponents ! O0

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Lords don't be silly :banana:....Right now Tua is inno shape to beat Klitschko..and after watching the performance Peter put on Saturady...Sam by UD