Paul Williams...Are we getting ahead of ourselves?
You know lately the Paul Williams hype has been buzzing hard....Just as the Margarito hype was about 3 months ago...Now all of a sudden Margarito may not be the fighter everyones thought because of performance and lack of dangerous opp...All of a sudden Paul Williams is the most dangerous man at 147???....I don't get it...To be honest the best name on his resume is a shot...and I do mean SHOT!!!!!!.....Sharmba Mitchell....Yes Williams is big..Yes he can bang...and he can box a bit but really lets look at who he has been impressive against....He may be the real deal he may not who knows...but why all of a sudden is he the next big thing?....Are we that desperate that we look to anyone with potential....Before everyone blast me think about it a minute......
Joe Calzaghe was the man after he beat Lacey now even his supporters are doubting him....
Margarito was the most ducked man in boxing?....Now he is not all he was cracked up to be?.....
At least they are world champions...Williams has a win over one ex champ who hasn't been a top guy in years....Why does this always happen here?
Just curious?
Re: Paul Williams...Are we getting ahead of ourselves?
YES! As for the reason why... I'm no psychologist, nor do I want to answer that question.
But Margarito has beaten six top ten Ring Magazine contenders. Still needs a career defining fight WHICH SHOULD LEAD TO A CAREER PAYDAY. He deserves it.
Calzaghe has always been that way, if you've watched him or paid attention of his career pre-Lacy. He tends to fight down to the level of competition. That's nothing new.
Re: Paul Williams...Are we getting ahead of ourselves?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gyrokai
YES! As for the reason why... I'm no psychologist, nor do I want to answer that question.
But Margarito has beaten six top ten Ring Magazine contenders. Still needs a career defining fight WHICH SHOULD LEAD TO A CAREER PAYDAY. He deserves it.
Calzaghe has always been that way, if you've watched him or paid attention of his career pre-Lacy. He tends to fight down to the level of competition. That's nothing new.
Their level of comp has nothing to do with it and I have followed Clazaghes career all along...My point is we tend to start hyping a guy up when ever he has one win or we are disappointed with our current flavor of the month....Leaving out the important things...Like is he really that good to deserve the praise or are we that desperate we tend to start looking for the next bandwagon before we even know how far it is going?
Re: Paul Williams...Are we getting ahead of ourselves?
Yes...we are gettin ahead of ourselves...but he's surely fun to watch & he's damned enthusiastic about what he does...thing is...he needs some serious competition to better his game.
I don't think that he fights down to the level of his opposition though. He did damned well against Mitchell...or what was left of Mitchell.
I'm curious to see him against someone closer to his size & will...Margarito is waaaaaaaaaaaaay to big of a step for him at this stage.
Re: Paul Williams...Are we getting ahead of ourselves?
his skills are ok but his size makes him threat.
Re: Paul Williams...Are we getting ahead of ourselves?
Re: Paul Williams...Are we getting ahead of ourselves?
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gyrokai
YES! As for the reason why... I'm no psychologist, nor do I want to answer that question.
But Margarito has beaten six top ten Ring Magazine contenders. Still needs a career defining fight WHICH SHOULD LEAD TO A CAREER PAYDAY. He deserves it.
Calzaghe has always been that way, if you've watched him or paid attention of his career pre-Lacy. He tends to fight down to the level of competition. That's nothing new.
Their level of comp has nothing to do with it and I have followed Clazaghes career all along...My point is we tend to start hyping a guy up when ever he has one win or we are disappointed with our current flavor of the month....Leaving out the important things...Like is he really that good to deserve the praise or are we that desperate we tend to start looking for the next bandwagon before we even know how far it is going?
Nothing's wrong with Calzaghe's record...the only thing I have issues with is that he hasn't fought anyone since he kicked the shit out of Lacy.
Calzaghe fought some good opponents for his time & location...everyone always rips his opposition level...but the thing is...he's not the only one that kept certain high profile fights from being made.
As far as Williams goes...I respect him wanting to take on Margarito...but he needs to tighten up his defense before he get's in with someone of Margie's caliber...& coming from me...that aint saying much...because I aint that big of a Margarito fan & his last outting didn't do my outlook much better.
Re: Paul Williams...Are we getting ahead of ourselves?
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gyrokai
YES! As for the reason why... I'm no psychologist, nor do I want to answer that question.
But Margarito has beaten six top ten Ring Magazine contenders. Still needs a career defining fight WHICH SHOULD LEAD TO A CAREER PAYDAY. He deserves it.
Calzaghe has always been that way, if you've watched him or paid attention of his career pre-Lacy. He tends to fight down to the level of competition. That's nothing new.
Their level of comp has nothing to do with it and I have followed Clazaghes career all along...My point is we tend to start hyping a guy up when ever he has one win or we are disappointed with our current flavor of the month....Leaving out the important things...Like is he really that good to deserve the praise or are we that desperate we tend to start looking for the next bandwagon before we even know how far it is going?
Well Calzaghe, I've never hyped him. I knew he'd fight down to Bika, despite his Masterpeice with Jeff Lacy. Calzaghe is one awesome dude, that's the truth.
Margarito, well I didn't hype him.... Floyd did! haha By turning down a career high 8 million. 8 Mill, is a lloooooottta money. He should have took the fight and "helped his fans out" instead he took on much easier fights for much much MUCH less money. 8 Mill is too much for a Mayweather, who can't even sell out an arena.
Margarito deserving a career payday or a defining fight is not "hype" it's just his due.
Williams, YES he's hyped. 8)
Re: Paul Williams...Are we getting ahead of ourselves?
Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gyrokai
YES! As for the reason why... I'm no psychologist, nor do I want to answer that question.
But Margarito has beaten six top ten Ring Magazine contenders. Still needs a career defining fight WHICH SHOULD LEAD TO A CAREER PAYDAY. He deserves it.
Calzaghe has always been that way, if you've watched him or paid attention of his career pre-Lacy. He tends to fight down to the level of competition. That's nothing new.
Their level of comp has nothing to do with it and I have followed Clazaghes career all along...My point is we tend to start hyping a guy up when ever he has one win or we are disappointed with our current flavor of the month....Leaving out the important things...Like is he really that good to deserve the praise or are we that desperate we tend to start looking for the next bandwagon before we even know how far it is going?
Nothing's wrong with Calzaghe's record...the only thing I have issues with is that he hasn't fought anyone since he kicked the shit out of Lacy.
Calzaghe fought some good opponents for his time & location...everyone always rips his opposition level...but the thing is...he's not the only one that kept certain high profile fights from being made.
As far as Williams goes...I respect him wanting to take on Margarito...but he needs to tighten up his defense before he get's in with someone of Margie's caliber...& coming from me...that aint saying much...because I aint that big of a Margarito fan & his last outting didn't do my outlook much better.
may favorite line in that fight was.. Calzaghe's corner asked him " how is his punch mate" Calzaghe responds " his punch is shit" . I knew right then Lacy was fucked. LOL LMFAO !
Re: Paul Williams...Are we getting ahead of ourselves?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lords Gym
may favorite line in that fight was.. Calzaghe's corner asked him " how is his punch mate" Calzaghe responds " his punch is S***" . I knew right then Lacy was fucked. LOL LMFAO !
:coolclick: Agreed...that was priceless. My jaw dropped on that one. I was shocked.
Re: Paul Williams...Are we getting ahead of ourselves?
Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lords Gym
may favorite line in that fight was.. Calzaghe's corner asked him " how is his punch mate" Calzaghe responds " his punch is S***" . I knew right then Lacy was fucked. LOL LMFAO !
:coolclick: Agreed...that was priceless. My jaw dropped on that one. I was shocked.
yeah I smiled on that one... It was pretty early in the fight if I recall??? I remeber saying out loud to my gym mates ... "We in trouble now" ! lol O0 :coolclick:
Re: Paul Williams...Are we getting ahead of ourselves?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lords Gym
Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lords Gym
may favorite line in that fight was.. Calzaghe's corner asked him " how is his punch mate" Calzaghe responds " his punch is S***" . I knew right then Lacy was fucked. LOL LMFAO !
:coolclick: Agreed...that was priceless. My jaw dropped on that one. I was shocked.
yeah I smiled on that one... It was pretty early in the fight if I recall??? I remeber saying out loud to my gym mates ... "We in trouble now" ! lol O0 :coolclick:
Yep. It was either the end of the second or the end of the third....think that it was the second.
Re: Paul Williams...Are we getting ahead of ourselves?
Paul Williams puts his punches together very nicely adn looks like he could punch all night but to be honest he looks like a bit of a powder puff to me (mind you i only saw him in his last fight).
Margarito would walk through him.
Re: Paul Williams...Are we getting ahead of ourselves?
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
You know lately the Paul Williams hype has been buzzing hard....Just as the Margarito hype was about 3 months ago...Now all of a sudden Margarito may not be the fighter everyones thought because of performance and lack of dangerous opp...All of a sudden Paul Williams is the most dangerous man at 147???....I don't get it...To be honest the best name on his resume is a shot...and I do mean SHOT!!!!!!.....Sharmba Mitchell....Yes Williams is big..Yes he can bang...and he can box a bit but really lets look at who he has been impressive against....He may be the real deal he may not who knows...but why all of a sudden is he the next big thing?....Are we that desperate that we look to anyone with potential....Before everyone blast me think about it a minute......
Joe Calzaghe was the man after he beat Lacey now even his supporters are doubting him....
Margarito was the most ducked man in boxing?....Now he is not all he was cracked up to be?.....
At least they are world champions...Williams has a win over one ex champ who hasn't been a top guy in years....Why does this always happen here?
Just curious?
the guys 32-0, surly by now people know how good he is?
Re: Paul Williams...Are we getting ahead of ourselves?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Preme
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
You know lately the Paul Williams hype has been buzzing hard....Just as the Margarito hype was about 3 months ago...Now all of a sudden Margarito may not be the fighter everyones thought because of performance and lack of dangerous opp...All of a sudden Paul Williams is the most dangerous man at 147???....I don't get it...To be honest the best name on his resume is a shot...and I do mean SHOT!!!!!!.....Sharmba Mitchell....Yes Williams is big..Yes he can bang...and he can box a bit but really lets look at who he has been impressive against....He may be the real deal he may not who knows...but why all of a sudden is he the next big thing?....Are we that desperate that we look to anyone with potential....Before everyone blast me think about it a minute......
Joe Calzaghe was the man after he beat Lacey now even his supporters are doubting him....
Margarito was the most ducked man in boxing?....Now he is not all he was cracked up to be?.....
At least they are world champions...Williams has a win over one ex champ who hasn't been a top guy in years....Why does this always happen here?
Just curious?
the guys 32-0, surly by now people know how good he is?
Yeah good point. I think people get very excited by him becuase he is such a freak of nature in the WW division. He is huge, huge reach, fast and powerful hands and people havent seen that in a fighter at WW since hearns days.
Re: Paul Williams...Are we getting ahead of ourselves?
Quote:
Originally Posted by cockey cockney
Quote:
Originally Posted by Preme
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
You know lately the Paul Williams hype has been buzzing hard....Just as the Margarito hype was about 3 months ago...Now all of a sudden Margarito may not be the fighter everyones thought because of performance and lack of dangerous opp...All of a sudden Paul Williams is the most dangerous man at 147???....I don't get it...To be honest the best name on his resume is a shot...and I do mean SHOT!!!!!!.....Sharmba Mitchell....Yes Williams is big..Yes he can bang...and he can box a bit but really lets look at who he has been impressive against....He may be the real deal he may not who knows...but why all of a sudden is he the next big thing?....Are we that desperate that we look to anyone with potential....Before everyone blast me think about it a minute......
Joe Calzaghe was the man after he beat Lacey now even his supporters are doubting him....
Margarito was the most ducked man in boxing?....Now he is not all he was cracked up to be?.....
At least they are world champions...Williams has a win over one ex champ who hasn't been a top guy in years....Why does this always happen here?
Just curious?
the guys 32-0, surly by now people know how good he is?
Yeah good point. I think people get very excited by him becuase he is such a freak of nature in the WW division. He is huge, huge reach, fast and powerful hands and people havent seen that in a fighter at WW since hearns days.
When i first seen him fight, i could just imagine his fans all saying "hes the next hearns" but honestly, i was far far from impressed and can see him getting beat badly soon. He is 32-0 and only now has become the number 1 for thw WBO? i honestly don't think much of the people he has beat, mitchel is his biggest name? why, i don't think mitchel would have the name he had now if he hadn't been batterd by Mayweather and KZ twice.
Really don't see this guy amounting to much. Didn't he have his first 10 or so fights at LMW?
Re: Paul Williams...Are we getting ahead of ourselves?
Ok Hang on.... This guy is Margarito's mandatory, and he's been calling him out for a while.. So I don't think it's as much that he's being overhyped, it's just that people are wondering how good he can be, and they want to find out soon, since he has no problem taking a great fight to show us what he's made of.. I think that if Cotto is made to enfore his mandatory soon, Tony should have to fight Williams and then the winner of that can fight Cotto.
Re: Paul Williams...Are we getting ahead of ourselves?
Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Ok Hang on.... This guy is Margarito's mandatory, and he's been calling him out for a while.. So I don't think it's as much that he's being overhyped, it's just that people are wondering how good he can be, and they want to find out soon, since he has no problem taking a great fight to show us what he's made of.. I think that if Cotto is made to enfore his mandatory soon, Tony should have to fight Williams and then the winner of that can fight Cotto.
Not really,Paul was getting lots of hype after the Mathysee fight. Kellerman in particular was like WOW,what a double jab,what a straight right,wow etc etc.The after he beat a shot old Sharmba,peeps starting saying he was the second coming,not only likening his physical stature to Hearns but also skils wise. And Williams will fight the winner of the Cotto Margarito fight.Simple as. Arum has already said that,Tony's camp have said that so when everyone says Margarito is ducking..... ??? ::**
As for WIllams as a fighter,he's a freak physicallly but is wiiiiiiiiiiiiiide open,guys 5 inches shorter can get inside and move him(Mathysse and Mitchell backed him up a few times each),and his punches don't have that much power(Santos Pakau fight).However,his natural gifts make him a threat to anyone at 147 and he would give Tony and Cotto a tough fight but Cotto would get inside and break his body. Tony has more experience,more savvy and I think places his punches better and hits harder.
