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prime larry holmes vs wlad klit or vitali klit who wins
prime holmes vs either one of the brothers who wins ??
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I figured someone would take this and run! LOL!
Larry takes em both to school
He had a great work rate,and came in great condition.
BUT don't forget when Larry met Cooney Larry was only 212lbs!
that could be a factor!
Larry holmes had a brutal punishing jab! I think the best jab ever in HW boxing.
He used it well to set up a decent Right hand.
Under rated and under appreciated in his day.
He "didn't get no respect"
Klitschkos are a bit TOO robotic.
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Originally Posted by landmine950
I figured someone would take this and run! LOL!
Larry takes em both to school
He had a great work rate,and came in great condition.
BUT don't forget when Larry met Cooney Larry was only 212lbs!
that could be a factor!
Larry holmes had a brutal punishing jab! I think the best jab ever in HW boxing.
He used it well to set up a decent Right hand.
Under rated and under appreciated in his day.
He "didn't get no respect"
Klitschkos are a bit TOO robotic.
totally agree cc
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i think the brothers are much biger and stronger and would KO holmes.
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Originally Posted by ethanpiazza
i think the brothers are much biger and stronger and would KO holmes.
holmes has got great chin he would take vitalis and wlads punches
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Originally Posted by ethanpiazza
i think the brothers are much biger and stronger and would KO holmes.
holmes has got great chin he would take vitalis and wlads punches
Yep Larry Holmes decisions both of them fairly easily.
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by ethanpiazza
i think the brothers are much biger and stronger and would KO holmes.
holmes has got great chin he would take vitalis and wlads punches
peter tooks wlad pucnhes too, but wlad still won
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Originally Posted by ethanpiazza
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by ethanpiazza
i think the brothers are much biger and stronger and would KO holmes.
holmes has got great chin he would take vitalis and wlads punches
peter tooks wlad pucnhes too, but wlad still won
uhh theres difference between peter and atg buddy holmes is one of best technical fighters ever in hw division only guys that are better technically are ali and arguably louis
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Both Klits win by Late TKO.
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Originally Posted by CrackJawof74
Both Klits win by Late TKO.
i agree with this. CC
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by ethanpiazza
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by ethanpiazza
i think the brothers are much biger and stronger and would KO holmes.
holmes has got great chin he would take vitalis and wlads punches
peter tooks wlad pucnhes too, but wlad still won
uhh theres difference between peter and atg buddy holmes is one of best technical fighters ever in hw division only guys that are better technically are ali and arguably louis
if holmes was so damn good, then why did he lose to micheal 'im really a LHW' spinks?
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Originally Posted by ethanpiazza
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by ethanpiazza
i think the brothers are much biger and stronger and would KO holmes.
holmes has got great chin he would take vitalis and wlads punches
peter tooks wlad pucnhes too, but wlad still won
uhh theres difference between peter and atg buddy holmes is one of best technical fighters ever in hw division only guys that are better technically are ali and arguably louis
if holmes was so damn good, then why did he lose to micheal 'im really a LHW' spinks?
uhh he was past his prime then plus first fight was close but spinks didnt do enough to take champions belt and in second fight holmes was totally robbed you do know spinks also beat gerry cooney there was nothing wrong with spinks at heavyweight and if wlads so good why did he lose to ross purity sanders and lamon brewster tell me that ??
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I could see Larry beating Wladimir, but he would have a hard time wtih either brother... His work rate would hurt him against such heavy punchers, and he is simply to small in terms of strength to compete IMO, but if he can outbox either at the same time, and is far faster than either so its even in my books. Lennox Lewis however, I say, would destroy Holmes.
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Originally Posted by Taeth
I could see Larry beating Wladimir, but he would have a hard time wtih either brother... His work rate would hurt him against such heavy punchers, and he is simply to small in terms of strength to compete IMO, but if he can outbox either at the same time, and is far faster than either so its even in my books. Lennox Lewis however, I say, would destroy Holmes.
i disagree lewis always struggled against someone with decent jab frank bruno and ray mercer i think holmes would outpoint lewis
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Originally Posted by Taeth
I could see Larry beating Wladimir, but he would have a hard time wtih either brother... His work rate would hurt him against such heavy punchers, and he is simply to small in terms of strength to compete IMO, but if he can outbox either at the same time, and is far faster than either so its even in my books. Lennox Lewis however, I say, would destroy Holmes.
i disagree lewis always struggled against someone with decent jab frank bruno and ray mercer i think holmes would outpoint lewis
Yeah id go along with that. I find myself agreeing with ya quite a bit atm ICB!
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Originally Posted by CrackJawof74
Both Klits win by Late TKO.
I will agree with that. :)
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What beats the klits and Lewis was speed. When Holmes fired the jab you got the back foot with it at speed, and somebody going to work while you were having your lunchbreak
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What beats the klits and Lewis was speed. When Holmes fired the jab you got the back foot with it at speed, and somebody going to work while you were having your lunchbreak
Who beat Vitali because they had hand speed?Who beat Wladimir because of hand speed?Who beat Lewis because of hand speed?You said, "What beats the klits and Lewis was speed."None of them have been beaten by an opponant beacause they had fast hands. ???
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vitali would have still beat holmes in his prime wid his snap knee and back injured, vitali would beat any boxer in kick boxing match since he been kick boxer world champion also he would beat them in a maths or english test
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larry homes is million times better than mcall and hasim in every way, so i'd say first round k.o to homes, larry holmes actually said in a interview that at age 48 he offered lewis and lewis said larry holmes punch too hard, i will actually upload this on you tube, so don't u worry. If lewis duck a old larry holmes then there no way he would have stepped in the ring with a young larry.
however I can never seeing a larry in his prime beat wlad as wlad has all advantage in speed powe height condition and etc. wlad would demolish holmes.
vitali is even stronger and bigger than his bro in every way
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Originally Posted by powerstorm
vitali would have still beat holmes in his prime wid his snap knee and back injured, vitali would beat any boxer in kick boxing match since he been kick boxer world champion also he would beat them in a maths or english test
Vitali's been beaten before in a kick boxing match. Pele Reid knocked Vitali out with a spinning kick to the jaw. Seems like someone that knows so much about the Klitschko's would know this.
Have fun doing the math on that. ;)
That being said...I'm a huge fan of Vitali's & think that he was a much more sound fighter than Wlad...awkward but he set into his punches a bit more than Wlad did.
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yeh but that was a kick, but lennox has been kock out by single punch and vitali has not even been wobbled by a single punch imagine what a kick would do to lennox,
another thing vitali was very young then
also pele reid was ko by orlin norris in first round by 1 punch and then vitali ko orlin norris out in first round, and tll this day only 1 person ko orlin in first round
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Why are we talking about kick boxing, anyways thats bs. that Lennox wouldn't fight Larry at 45 because he punched to hard... Larry was full of shit when he got older. Lennox was more skilled than either Klitschko brother, and he was faster, and from what I've heard he was stronger than any heavyweight, but regardless Lennox was ko'ed once... That McCall fight was a bad stoppage. Lennox has also been hit by heavier punchers than those two, and so they were a case of the right punch at the right time which can happen in the heavyweight division. Holmes is a great boxer, but size is really important because Chris Byrd who is faster than Holmes, and has a better defense was still picked apart by both brothers.
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Originally Posted by Taeth
Why are we talking about kick boxing, anyways thats bs. that Lennox wouldn't fight Larry at 45 because he punched to hard... Larry was full of S*** when he got older. Lennox was more skilled than either Klitschko brother, and he was faster, and from what I've heard he was stronger than any heavyweight, but regardless Lennox was ko'ed once... That McCall fight was a bad stoppage. Lennox has also been hit by heavier punchers than those two, and so they were a case of the right punch at the right time which can happen in the heavyweight division. Holmes is a great boxer, but size is really important because Chris Byrd who is faster than Holmes, and has a better defense was still picked apart by both brothers.
Wladimir is a faster puncher than Lewis was.Here is a direct quote from Stewart: “Wladimir is so far ahead of any of these other guys. I mean this guy has got it all. He prepares better than any boxer I’ve ever had. He’s the fastest I’ve seen since Ali of anyone who has power. He’s on his way to becoming one of the greatest heavies of all time.”
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Why are we talking about kick boxing, anyways thats bs. that Lennox wouldn't fight Larry at 45 because he punched to hard... Larry was full of S*** when he got older. Lennox was more skilled than either Klitschko brother, and he was faster, and from what I've heard he was stronger than any heavyweight, but regardless Lennox was ko'ed once... That McCall fight was a bad stoppage. Lennox has also been hit by heavier punchers than those two, and so they were a case of the right punch at the right time which can happen in the heavyweight division. Holmes is a great boxer, but size is really important because Chris Byrd who is faster than Holmes, and has a better defense was still picked apart by both brothers.
Wladimir is a faster puncher than Lewis was.Here is a direct quote from Stewart: Wladimir is so far ahead of any of these other guys. I mean this guy has got it all. He prepares better than any boxer Ive ever had. Hes the fastest Ive seen since Ali of anyone who has power. Hes on his way to becoming one of the greatest heavies of all time.
phil jackson has fought lewis and wladimir and claimed wladimir is better in every way
and so did emanuel steward so who could no more than these and vitali is even better than his bro
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Where's the MOD on this thread?
There is clearly one idiot logging on under multiple identities here.
Surely, the point is to have a reasonable debate, rather than some fool 'shouting people down' by pretending to be more than one person. He devalues his point because each identity is as stupid as the other.
:-[
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this mean x knows how to come on with multiple account because it not aloud on this forum and u will be banned if caught, am gona tell wacko to wack you out
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Originally Posted by Taeth
Why are we talking about kick boxing, anyways thats bs. that Lennox wouldn't fight Larry at 45 because he punched to hard... Larry was full of S*** when he got older. Lennox was more skilled than either Klitschko brother, and he was faster, and from what I've heard he was stronger than any heavyweight, but regardless Lennox was ko'ed once... That McCall fight was a bad stoppage. Lennox has also been hit by heavier punchers than those two, and so they were a case of the right punch at the right time which can happen in the heavyweight division. Holmes is a great boxer, but size is really important because Chris Byrd who is faster than Holmes, and has a better defense was still picked apart by both brothers.
byrd is 5 foot 11 or 6 foot and is southpaw and is totally different style to holmes larry holmes also had much better jab than byrd and brothers getting hit with that piston jab would shake them up plus that mccall stoppage wasnt bad lewis did stagger when he got up he looked unsteady
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this mean x knows how to come on with multiple account because it not aloud on this forum and u will be banned if caught, am gona tell wacko to wack you out
No, it just means that you don't exist because I have logged on as you. You are therefore not real.
You may as well just kill yourself now.
Run a hot bath and cut your wrists. Don't do it across your vein like they do on TV, you need to slice vertically.
Hope that helps.
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IMO Holmes would make Vitali look stupid and would UD Lewis and Vlad
can't be bothered to say anymore
Hope this helps ;)
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[color=blue]Where's the MOD on this thread?
where here mate ;)
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Prime Holmes smokes both Klitchcko Brothers . Wlad by KO, Vitali by Dec. O0
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Prime Holmes smokes both Klitchcko Brothers . Wlad by KO, Vitali by Dec. O0
Vitali with full injury would have kill holmes and wlad right hand would have stop holmes from boxing another match in his life
LMFAO ;D cheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeers mate ~ have another.. and roll me one why you at it ! ;)
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Vitali was an incredible technician. His jab was unbelivable, he was on the way to beating a prime lennox lewis and would have knocked Holmes' head off if it was prime v prime. Vitali was so underappreciated, it seems weird nw that Wlad is taking all the plaudits becuase even though he is head and shoulders above the current heavies, Vitali was so much better than Wlad.
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Vitali was an incredible technician. His jab was unbelivable, he was on the way to beating a prime lennox lewis and would have knocked Holmes' head off if it was prime v prime. Vitali was so underappreciated, it seems weird nw that Wlad is taking all the plaudits becuase even though he is head and shoulders above the current heavies, Vitali was so much better than Wlad.
Prime Lewis fought Donovan Ruddock .. Lewis was 6"5 227lbs.. that Lewis smokes both Klitchko brothers something fierce.. ;) O0
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Vitali was an incredible technician. His jab was unbelivable, he was on the way to beating a prime lennox lewis and would have knocked Holmes' head off if it was prime v prime. Vitali was so underappreciated, it seems weird nw that Wlad is taking all the plaudits becuase even though he is head and shoulders above the current heavies, Vitali was so much better than Wlad.
Prime Lewis fought Donovan Ruddock .. Lewis was 6"5 227lbs.. that Lewis smokes both Klitchko brothers something fierce.. ;) O0
I guess my idea of prime Lewis is different to the real prime Lewis, being 19 years of age! ;) While not being at the prime of his physical assets, his experience was unmatched in the Vitali, Tyson, Holyfield and Rahman II days.
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Vitali was an incredible technician. His jab was unbelivable, he was on the way to beating a prime lennox lewis and would have knocked Holmes' head off if it was prime v prime. Vitali was so underappreciated, it seems weird nw that Wlad is taking all the plaudits becuase even though he is head and shoulders above the current heavies, Vitali was so much better than Wlad.
Prime Lewis fought Donovan Ruddock .. Lewis was 6"5 227lbs.. that Lewis smokes both Klitchko brothers something fierce.. ;) O0
I guess my idea of prime Lewis is different to the real prime Lewis, being 19 years of age! ;) While not being at the prime of his physical assets, his experience was unmatched in the Vitali, Tyson, Holyfield and Rahman II days.
all that weight he added after Ruddock was a huge mistake.. Lewis was at his best or in his prime early as a result .. much faster hands at 19 20 years old. when he got up to the slow methodical 240's all of a sudden he lost his best asset.. handspeed ! .. Cool click in 24 !
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Originally Posted by yoitsdan
Vitali was an incredible technician. His jab was unbelivable, he was on the way to beating a prime lennox lewis and would have knocked Holmes' head off if it was prime v prime. Vitali was so underappreciated, it seems weird nw that Wlad is taking all the plaudits becuase even though he is head and shoulders above the current heavies, Vitali was so much better than Wlad.
Prime Lewis fought Donovan Ruddock .. Lewis was 6"5 227lbs.. that Lewis smokes both Klitchko brothers something fierce.. ;) O0
I guess my idea of prime Lewis is different to the real prime Lewis, being 19 years of age! ;) While not being at the prime of his physical assets, his experience was unmatched in the Vitali, Tyson, Holyfield and Rahman II days.
all that weight he added after Ruddock was a huge mistake.. Lewis was at his best or in his prime early as a result .. much faster hands at 19 20 years old. when he got up to the slow methodical 240's all of a sudden he lost his best asset.. handspeed ! .. Cool click in 24 !
He still had a degree of speed in his jab though, and I have seen some of the really really early Lennox, he was an all out banger, did he not carry some of this early ferocity into his later performances, because the way he dealt with Holyfield and Tyson was nothing short of masterful. CC to one of my fave posters! (in 24!)