the boxing god says

the boxing gods of today,

the hybrid, pretty boy floyd, the most complete fighter combination of blistering offense and slick defense, will continue to give out spankings.

the destroyer, manny pacman, the most exciting fighter alive, an endless brutal attacker, will continue his brutality.

the wizard winky "wink,wink" wright, the winky wall a unbreakable defense, will finally show signs of war scars,?

how will our top 3 p4p do this year?

winky is who I worry about most.....plus he has no choking hold on his division, out of the three winky I think has the hardest oppenents to beat in middleweights.

pbf pretty much should whoop everyone at welter(cotto,hatton,tony,williams)but he has move up to 154. after odlh will he retire? hopefully he doesn't. pbf gotta spank a few more names in welter 147 before he calls it quit.

pac has a good grip on his division, pac has lived on going after the top, now he is on top, when he had mab, he instantly wanted em, but jmm was in the way, now pac has beat em, unfinish business with jmm is who pac must be starving for.

I really hope Mayweather loses to De La Hoya but if he doesnt then I wouldnt be too surprised if he tries to go up again and take a belt at middleweight, hes after Oscars record.

De la Hoya needs 2 turn this one into a war I think to beat PBF whats everyone else thoughts on how DLH can do it?

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Originally Posted by beerjelly

I really hope Mayweather loses to De La Hoya but if he doesnt then I wouldnt be too surprised if he tries to go up again and take a belt at middleweight, hes after Oscars record.

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I don't think pbf can go any higher then 154, we don't even know how he does at 154, his last fight with baldomir, he look to have slow a bit,but he said it was because of his hands getting hurt. going up in weight is what's impressive beating the oscar of today isn't so much. after the oscar fight, pbf shouldn't retire, he should go back down to 147 and clean up.

just after 22 fights oscar already won his 4 title that was against legendary jcc. odlh perfect jab cut jcc in the first round. by the fourth jcc couldn't go on. I don't think pbf can top that ever.

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Originally Posted by Drago

De la Hoya needs 2 turn this one into a war I think to beat PBF whats everyone else thoughts on how DLH can do it?

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I don't know if anyone else notice this, but a 154 pbf is a very heavy pbf. I wonder what his weight is on fight night. pbf could be up to 160...everyone talk about how baldomir walk around 160, but pbf could come fight night nearly 160, so size really wanst a factor then. and pbf could hurt baldomir at all, and now pbf once again is moving up this time against a much better boxer odlh,

if odlh has a chance, he has to hope pbf going up in weight willl affect pbf performance, it can take some speed away from pbf and clearly the power was been gone since 147. odlh may pull it off, but I think its a matter of pbf beating himself by going up this high in weight. for sure pbf defense will still be there its pbf offense that maybe missing at 154, and pbf has to bring his A game offense against odlh.

I want to just say pbf will win u.d but lets just see how pbf does at 154, plus its the goldenboy his facing, watch out for the left hook pbf! pretty dangerous for pbf.

pbf wont hit anywhere near 160, in his last few previous fites he's put on hardly any if any at all weight between the fite and the weigh in.

me personally i think pbh is gona try and get in on the inside of odlh, he's a brilliant inside fighter and may look to use the "in the pocket technique" that he displayed againt n'dou

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Originally Posted by BoxingGod

the boxing gods of today,

the hybrid, pretty boy floyd, the most complete fighter combination of blistering offense and slick defense, will continue to give out spankings.

the destroyer, manny pacman, the most exciting fighter alive, an endless brutal attacker, will continue his brutality.

the wizard winky "wink,wink" wright, the winky wall a unbreakable defense, will finally show signs of war scars,?

how will our top 3 p4p do this year?

winky is who I worry about most.....plus he has no choking hold on his division, out of the three winky I think has the hardest oppenents to beat in middleweights.

pbf pretty much should whoop everyone at welter(cotto,hatton,tony,williams)but he has move up to 154. after odlh will he retire? hopefully he doesn't. pbf gotta spank a few more names in welter 147 before he calls it quit.

pac has a good grip on his division, pac has lived on going after the top, now he is on top, when he had mab, he instantly wanted em, but jmm was in the way, now pac has beat em, unfinish business with jmm is who pac must be starving for.

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Pacquiao is not the most exciting fighter alive....That honor goes to a slightly smaller fellow...The one and only Lolipop eating Cowboy hat wearing mexican sensation....Jorge Arce..

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

Pacquiao is not the most exciting fighter alive....That honor goes to a slightly smaller fellow...The one and only Lolipop eating Cowboy hat wearing mexican sensation....Jorge Arce..

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Arce is indeed the shit...I just want him to step up & face somebody.

Vic Darchinian would be great.

Not sure who wins on this one...but the real question should be...will Arce ever fight Darchinian?

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Pacquiao is not the most exciting fighter alive....That honor goes to a slightly smaller fellow...The one and only Lolipop eating Cowboy hat wearing mexican sensation....Jorge Arce..

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Arce is indeed the S***...I just want him to step up & face somebody.

Vic Darchinian would be great.

Not sure who wins on this one...but the real question should be...will Arce ever fight Darchinian?

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The real Question is Will Darchinyan ever fight Arce??....Jorge is the draw and why should he move down in weight?

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Pacquiao is not the most exciting fighter alive....That honor goes to a slightly smaller fellow...The one and only Lolipop eating Cowboy hat wearing mexican sensation....Jorge Arce..

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Arce is indeed the S***...I just want him to step up & face somebody.

Vic Darchinian would be great.

Not sure who wins on this one...but the real question should be...will Arce ever fight Darchinian?

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The real Question is Will Darchinyan ever fight Arce??....Jorge is the draw and why should he move down in weight?

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Seriously?

Because, IWO, the media's, & many fans opinions Arce bailed before taking a real challenge at Flyweight & that real challenge was Darchinian.

Many Arce fans say that he didn't bail out...& maybe that's the way that I should look at it...me being an Arce fan...but the fact is, before he left Flyweight (which he just recently) Vic D held & defended the IBF & IBO Flyweight titles either five or six times.

I'm a big big Arce fan...but he hasn't fought anyone really worthy yet...& he's fought a shit load of fighters.
Hussein was really the only legit challenge that Arce took...& let's face it...Hussein aint no Darchinian.

Still shocked that you said that. Arce should have faced him...not the other way around.

Vic was a dual title holder & had called him out. Arce agreed that the fight could be made...then he moved up.

Well Arce planned on moving up a long long time ago and has been struggling at the weight. I remember Harold Lederman mentioning he saw Arce at a weigh in and he thought Arce was about to pass out. If Darchinyan wants the fight,he knows where Arce is,Arce is the draw,titles or not. And Arce does NOT come across as a guy who runs from ANYONE!

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Well Arce planned on moving up a long long time ago and has been struggling at the weight. I remember Harold Lederman mentioning he saw Arce at a weigh in and he thought Arce was about to pass out. If Darchinyan wants the fight,he knows where Arce is,Arce is the draw,titles or not. And Arce does NOT come across as a guy who runs from ANYONE!

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Maybe he does...maybe he doesn't come across as a runner. It's all in opinion.

I just totally disagree here.

Arce heard the called & answered by moving up.

Arce Darchinian was a fight that everyone seemed to want by Arce.

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

Pacquiao is not the most exciting fighter alive....That honor goes to a slightly smaller fellow...The one and only Lolipop eating Cowboy hat wearing mexican sensation....Jorge Arce..

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Arce is indeed the S***...I just want him to step up & face somebody.

Vic Darchinian would be great.

Not sure who wins on this one...but the real question should be...will Arce ever fight Darchinian?

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The real Question is Will Darchinyan ever fight Arce??....Jorge is the draw and why should he move down in weight?

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Seriously?

Because, IWO, the media's, & many fans opinions Arce bailed before taking a real challenge at Flyweight & that real challenge was Darchinian.

Many Arce fans say that he didn't bail out...& maybe that's the way that I should look at it...me being an Arce fan...but the fact is, before he left Flyweight (which he just recently) Vic D held & defended the IBF & IBO Flyweight titles either five or six times.

I'm a big big Arce fan...but he hasn't fought anyone really worthy yet...& he's fought a S*** load of fighters.
Hussein was really the only legit challenge that Arce took...& let's face it...Hussein aint no Darchinian.

Still shocked that you said that. Arce should have faced him...not the other way around.

Vic was a dual title holder & had called him out. Arce agreed that the fight could be made...then he moved up.

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Wack my man you know I rarely dis-agree with you when it comes boxing but this is one I do not agree on...IMO Arce is doing what he needs to do for his career....I will not believe and unless I hear it from Arces mouth or Vic moves up and Arce still won't fight him that The Cowboy is ducking him

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Well Arce planned on moving up a long long time ago and has been struggling at the weight. I remember Harold Lederman mentioning he saw Arce at a weigh in and he thought Arce was about to pass out. If Darchinyan wants the fight,he knows where Arce is,Arce is the draw,titles or not. And Arce does NOT come across as a guy who runs from ANYONE!

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Maybe he does...maybe he doesn't come across as a runner. It's all in opinion.

I just totally disagree here.

Arce heard the called & answered by moving up.

Arce Darchinian was a fight that everyone seemed to want by Arce.

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Arce already made his intentions clear that he was moving up BEFORE Vic called him out and come on man,you should know,merely calling out means nothing. DId either camp make a serious offer? I think it's both camps faults that the fight is not made but sooner or later,it will be.

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Well Arce planned on moving up a long long time ago and has been struggling at the weight. I remember Harold Lederman mentioning he saw Arce at a weigh in and he thought Arce was about to pass out. If Darchinyan wants the fight,he knows where Arce is,Arce is the draw,titles or not. And Arce does NOT come across as a guy who runs from ANYONE!

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Maybe he does...maybe he doesn't come across as a runner. It's all in opinion.

I just totally disagree here.

Arce heard the called & answered by moving up.

Arce Darchinian was a fight that everyone seemed to want by Arce.

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Arce already made his intentions clear that he was moving up BEFORE Vic called him out and come on man,you should know,merely calling out means nothing. DId either camp make a serious offer? I think it's both camps faults that the fight is not made but sooner or later,it will be.

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Exactly!!! CC on that

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

Wack my man you know I rarely dis-agree with you when it comes boxing but this is one I do not agree on...IMO Arce is doing what he needs to do for his career....I will not believe and unless I hear it from Arces mouth or Vic moves up and Arce still won't fight him that The Cowboy is ducking him

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No biggie then...minor disagreement.

He aint ducking Darchinian then...but I'll bet you he's been trying on all the name brand track shoes that he can get imported to Mexico. A lot of shoes are now being made in Mexico & then exported to America...so he may have an easier time with this than one thinks.

No...maybe it's that theyr'e made in China & exported.

I'm gonna say that he's a Puma wearer. ;D

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Well Arce planned on moving up a long long time ago and has been struggling at the weight. I remember Harold Lederman mentioning he saw Arce at a weigh in and he thought Arce was about to pass out. If Darchinyan wants the fight,he knows where Arce is,Arce is the draw,titles or not. And Arce does NOT come across as a guy who runs from ANYONE!

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Maybe he does...maybe he doesn't come across as a runner. It's all in opinion.

I just totally disagree here.

Arce heard the called & answered by moving up.

Arce Darchinian was a fight that everyone seemed to want by Arce.

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Arce already made his intentions clear that he was moving up BEFORE Vic called him out and come on man,you should know,merely calling out means nothing. DId either camp make a serious offer? I think it's both camps faults that the fight is not made but sooner or later,it will be.

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Exactly!!! CC on that

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Are Puma's made in Mexico or China? ;D






























































**All joking aside...I really aint sure as to whether or not the camps made the offers. I'd have to do some serious research on that...but I'm just not sure why he moved up before cracking out Darchinian. Being an Arce fan...him not answering the call shocked me. Arce has often flown by the "put em in front of me & I knock em down" route & it's hard to see why he didn't take him out before he left.

Maybe it's both camps fault & maybe it's not...but the fight REALLY really needs to be made.

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

Wack my man you know I rarely dis-agree with you when it comes boxing but this is one I do not agree on...IMO Arce is doing what he needs to do for his career....I will not believe and unless I hear it from Arces mouth or Vic moves up and Arce still won't fight him that The Cowboy is ducking him

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No biggie then...minor disagreement.

He aint ducking Darchinian then...but I'll bet you he's been trying on all the name brand track shoes that he can get imported to Mexico. A lot of shoes are now being made in Mexico & then exported to America...so he may have an easier time with this than one thinks.

No...maybe it's that theyr'e made in China & exported.

I'm gonna say that he's a Puma wearer. ;D

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Pumas awwww C'Mon now Wacko....We all know Arce ain't no runner,....He is more of a one on one type guy...He would love to interact with Dacrchinyan and play a game or two...But for some reason Vic went and got himself a restraining order that states Arce is not allowed with in three areana's of him....Also his attorney had put into the order it stay in effect as long as Vic maintains his figure and doesn't put on any weight....It almost sounds domestic ;)

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

Pacquiao is not the most exciting fighter alive....That honor goes to a slightly smaller fellow...The one and only Lolipop eating Cowboy hat wearing mexican sensation....Jorge Arce..

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Arce is indeed the S***...I just want him to step up & face somebody.

Vic Darchinian would be great.

Not sure who wins on this one...but the real question should be...will Arce ever fight Darchinian?

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wow you guys totally killed the topic :P

actually pac is the most exciting fighter alive, arce is ok but he can't draw in as much fans then the pacman, NOT EVEN HALF. plus arce is still kinda of unkown, and that lolipop cowboy thing his got going reminds me of BROKEBACK Mountain.

ooh if arce and darchinian fights, vic by 6th. arce pretty much just has that hussein fight. that's it. arce is like gatti they just O.K ;)

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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

Pacquiao is not the most exciting fighter alive....That honor goes to a slightly smaller fellow...The one and only Lolipop eating Cowboy hat wearing mexican sensation....Jorge Arce..

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Arce is indeed the S***...I just want him to step up & face somebody.

Vic Darchinian would be great.

Not sure who wins on this one...but the real question should be...will Arce ever fight Darchinian?

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wow you guys totally killed the topic :P

actually pac is the most exciting fighter alive, arce is ok but he can't draw in as much fans then the pacman, NOT EVEN HALF. plus arce is still kinda of unkown, and that lolipop cowboy thing his got going reminds me of BROKEBACK Mountain.

ooh if arce and darchinian fights, vic by 6th. arce pretty much just has that hussein fight. that's it. arce is like gatti they just O.K ;)

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The ability of Arce bringing in the fans...Or anyfighter under 118lbs has nothing to do with them as fighters it has to do with the fact those guys are not marketed right....You will find more exciting fights under 118 than in any other division

Just because Arce does not bring in as many fighters as Manny does not mean he is not as exciting,he's just not as well known. Guys around that weight class find publicity hard to come by but EVERY Arce fight is exciting! Compare Arce and his popularity to that of Pac's when he was at the lower weight classes,there's no comparison and if Arce was at a higher weight,LOADS of peeps would go to see him.

And comparing Arce to Gatti does not work for me. Gatti was a club fighter with LOADS of heart,Arce is a skilled fighter who is AMAZING on the inside. He throws every type of punch there is in boxing,heck against Hussein Hussein,RJJ and Lampley were likening some of his attributes to those of Roberto Duran. So,NO,he's not just ok like Gatti.,....