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In terms of Hatton's future.....
What do we want to see him do ? I think if Hatton keeps to his game plan he can safely beat Urango right? But i dont want to see him take the "I'm at 140 im inviniceble" approach if you know what i mean? Urango so i've heard isn't anywhere near Hattons level and that might push him to give a good performance. I heard somewhere he has never ever been put on his back and thats an achivement imo. I dont want Hatton took go for it early and the same thing happens again like the Luiz fight. Im sure Hatton will have trained hard for this and will get another "W". But he will have to fight well because i feel we see the best performaces of Hatton when he is the underdog.
In his time left i think Hatton should remain at 140 for 2-3 years MAX! Depending on match up's etc etc I dont want to see him stay at 140. I know somebody will reply to this and say thats where he is best at etc etc, but i don't feel the exciment and potential of Ricky Hatton can be fully forfilled at 140. I do feel if Ricky gets past Urango safely and fights Castillo and beats him he will be by far ahead of everybody else at 140. This is where i feel is will start to slip for Ricky because he will be so much better and win every match pretty safely. At the end of the day he will keep his undeafted record and say 'hey i beat everyone at 140' and he will call it a day. Thats what i don't want to see! I feel Ricky needs to press on and return to 147 and fight the real names. At 140 i want to see Hatton fight Castillo, Corralles, Witter and D-hop last. If he wins these fights i feel he does not even have to stay another second at 140.
147 will be the key for Ricky Hatton. The big names like Cotto, Margarito, Williams, Judah, Gatti etc and maybe even Floyd if he decides to stick around at 147. I feel if Hatton does stay at 140 for 2-3 years he can really justify why he moved back and go back to 147 and show us how exciting of a fighter he is. I would like to see Hatton re-match Luiz if he is still a big name in 2-3 years. If Hatton could get to 147 when he is 30 i feel he will make the 147 exciting to watch. The devison itself will be getting older on paper but it still won't stop an exciting matches from occuring. I feel if Ricky goes up and fights for a belt at 147 and shows us that he is a battler and he is a risk taker again! i would safely say we could remember Ricky Hatton as a British boxing legend.
What i dont want to see is Ricky taking the non-risk approach by brushing up the 140's and calling it a day. I think Ricky has years to show us what he is capable of. I would really like to see him fight Cotto in the near future and show me he is a real idol. I would be dissapointed if he does take the lame approach out of boxing because i would think to myself he was good but he could have done a lot better! I REALLY DO FEEL HATTON SHOULD GET BACK TO 147 ON THOSE GROUNDS!!!!!!!
what do you all feel on this because im a boxing fan and I want to see big risk fights and enjoy the sport compared to seeing the easy approach on Rickys behalf ?
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IMO What he has is mind is Urango, June 2 againstCastillo in a possible PPV then if he comes through all that, a superfight PPV at 147/154 against Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley or Oscar.
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IMO What he has is mind is Urango, June 2 againstCastillo in a possible PPV then if he comes through all that, a superfight PPV at 147/154 against Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley or Oscar.
Hatton at 154 ? isnt that bit to far out of his depth? the big names imo are at 147 there is no need for him going that far up. so is this just a thoery or has he acctually said those words ?
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IMO What he has is mind is Urango, June 2 againstCastillo in a possible PPV then if he comes through all that, a superfight PPV at 147/154 against Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley or Oscar.
Hatton at 154 ? isnt that bit to far out of his depth? the big names imo are at 147 there is no need for him going that far up. so is this just a thoery or has he acctually said those words ?
He'd face Oscar, Mayweather, Mosley or Cotto regardless of weight class. They are his own words.
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IMO What he has is mind is Urango, June 2 againstCastillo in a possible PPV then if he comes through all that, a superfight PPV at 147/154 against Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley or Oscar.
Hatton at 154 ? isnt that bit to far out of his depth? the big names imo are at 147 there is no need for him going that far up. so is this just a thoery or has he acctually said those words ?
He'd face Oscar, Mayweather, Mosley or Cotto regardless of weight class. They are his own words.
Intresting so he doesnt have any needs to stay at 140 then ? what i dont understand know is why the fuck is he fighting Urango then ?
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IMO What he has is mind is Urango, June 2 againstCastillo in a possible PPV then if he comes through all that, a superfight PPV at 147/154 against Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley or Oscar.
Hatton at 154 ? isnt that bit to far out of his depth? the big names imo are at 147 there is no need for him going that far up. so is this just a thoery or has he acctually said those words ?
He'd face Oscar, Mayweather, Mosley or Cotto regardless of weight class. They are his own words.
Intresting so he doesnt have any needs to stay at 140 then ? what i dont understand know is why the fuck is he fighting Urango then ?
His next fight is Castillo, which is a super fight in its own right. That one is at 140. Urango is a world title fight, a re-adjustment to 140, and should be a barnstorrmer while it lasts, to get the american fans talking.
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IMO What he has is mind is Urango, June 2 againstCastillo in a possible PPV then if he comes through all that, a superfight PPV at 147/154 against Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley or Oscar.
Hatton at 154 ? isnt that bit to far out of his depth? the big names imo are at 147 there is no need for him going that far up. so is this just a thoery or has he acctually said those words ?
He'd face Oscar, Mayweather, Mosley or Cotto regardless of weight class. They are his own words.
Intresting so he doesnt have any needs to stay at 140 then ? what i dont understand know is why the F*** is he fighting Urango then ?
His next fight is Castillo, which is a super fight in its own right. That one is at 140. Urango is a world title fight, a re-adjustment to 140, and should be a barnstorrmer while it lasts, to get the american fans talking.
Intresing! cheers for the info bro i thought that he was just gona stay at 140 and be a nonrisk taker!
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IMO What he has is mind is Urango, June 2 againstCastillo in a possible PPV then if he comes through all that, a superfight PPV at 147/154 against Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley or Oscar.
Hatton at 154 ? isnt that bit to far out of his depth? the big names imo are at 147 there is no need for him going that far up. so is this just a thoery or has he acctually said those words ?
He'd face Oscar, Mayweather, Mosley or Cotto regardless of weight class. They are his own words.
Intresting so he doesnt have any needs to stay at 140 then ? what i dont understand know is why the F*** is he fighting Urango then ?
His next fight is Castillo, which is a super fight in its own right. That one is at 140. Urango is a world title fight, a re-adjustment to 140, and should be a barnstorrmer while it lasts, to get the american fans talking.
Intresing! cheers for the info bro i thought that he was just gona stay at 140 and be a nonrisk taker!
Of course, I'm pro-Hatton so someone is going to come along and say that he's gonna be a 140 non-risk taker but at this stage of the game, Hatton and HBO will be cashing in on his style, his rep and his character to match him up against the biggest names, Cotto and Floyd don't have a name like Kostya Tszyu on their resumes' and surely they would want a name like Ricky Hatton's on theirs.
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IMO What he has is mind is Urango, June 2 againstCastillo in a possible PPV then if he comes through all that, a superfight PPV at 147/154 against Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley or Oscar.
Hatton at 154 ? isnt that bit to far out of his depth? the big names imo are at 147 there is no need for him going that far up. so is this just a thoery or has he acctually said those words ?
He'd face Oscar, Mayweather, Mosley or Cotto regardless of weight class. They are his own words.
Intresting so he doesnt have any needs to stay at 140 then ? what i dont understand know is why the F*** is he fighting Urango then ?
His next fight is Castillo, which is a super fight in its own right. That one is at 140. Urango is a world title fight, a re-adjustment to 140, and should be a barnstorrmer while it lasts, to get the american fans talking.
Intresing! cheers for the info bro i thought that he was just gona stay at 140 and be a nonrisk taker!
Of course, I'm pro-Hatton so someone is going to come along and say that he's gonna be a 140 non-risk taker but at this stage of the game, Hatton and HBO will be cashing in on his style, his rep and his character to match him up against the biggest names, Cotto and Floyd don't have a name like Kostya Tszyu on their resumes' and surely they would want a name like Ricky Hatton's on theirs.
So what if Hatton dont deliver against Urango? what will happen then? I'm scared that something bad may happen yano and it ends up Hatton staying at 140 for a long time.
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IMO What he has is mind is Urango, June 2 againstCastillo in a possible PPV then if he comes through all that, a superfight PPV at 147/154 against Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley or Oscar.
Hatton at 154 ? isnt that bit to far out of his depth? the big names imo are at 147 there is no need for him going that far up. so is this just a thoery or has he acctually said those words ?
He'd face Oscar, Mayweather, Mosley or Cotto regardless of weight class. They are his own words.
Intresting so he doesnt have any needs to stay at 140 then ? what i dont understand know is why the F*** is he fighting Urango then ?
His next fight is Castillo, which is a super fight in its own right. That one is at 140. Urango is a world title fight, a re-adjustment to 140, and should be a barnstorrmer while it lasts, to get the american fans talking.
Intresing! cheers for the info bro i thought that he was just gona stay at 140 and be a nonrisk taker!
Of course, I'm pro-Hatton so someone is going to come along and say that he's gonna be a 140 non-risk taker but at this stage of the game, Hatton and HBO will be cashing in on his style, his rep and his character to match him up against the biggest names, Cotto and Floyd don't have a name like Kostya Tszyu on their resumes' and surely they would want a name like Ricky Hatton's on theirs.
So what if Hatton dont deliver against Urango? what will happen then? I'm scared that something bad may happen yano and it ends up Hatton staying at 140 for a long time.
If Hatton does lose to Urango then I think thats when Hatton will go to 147, because it will be a sign that the 140 is finally too much low him to make, to be honest I think that severe weight drain is the only way Hatton loses to Urango other than a freak lucky punch, or Urango being 10 times better than we think he it.
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IMO What he has is mind is Urango, June 2 againstCastillo in a possible PPV then if he comes through all that, a superfight PPV at 147/154 against Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley or Oscar.
Hatton at 154 ? isnt that bit to far out of his depth? the big names imo are at 147 there is no need for him going that far up. so is this just a thoery or has he acctually said those words ?
He'd face Oscar, Mayweather, Mosley or Cotto regardless of weight class. They are his own words.
Intresting so he doesnt have any needs to stay at 140 then ? what i dont understand know is why the F*** is he fighting Urango then ?
His next fight is Castillo, which is a super fight in its own right. That one is at 140. Urango is a world title fight, a re-adjustment to 140, and should be a barnstorrmer while it lasts, to get the american fans talking.
Intresing! cheers for the info bro i thought that he was just gona stay at 140 and be a nonrisk taker!
Of course, I'm pro-Hatton so someone is going to come along and say that he's gonna be a 140 non-risk taker but at this stage of the game, Hatton and HBO will be cashing in on his style, his rep and his character to match him up against the biggest names, Cotto and Floyd don't have a name like Kostya Tszyu on their resumes' and surely they would want a name like Ricky Hatton's on theirs.
So what if Hatton dont deliver against Urango? what will happen then? I'm scared that something bad may happen yano and it ends up Hatton staying at 140 for a long time.
If Hatton does lose to Urango then I think thats when Hatton will go to 147, because it will be a sign that the 140 is finally too much low him to make, to be honest I think that severe weight drain is the only way Hatton loses to Urango other than a freak lucky punch, or Urango being 10 times better than we think he it.
Yer from what i've heard i aint heard he is much but i aint seen him fight so i cant judge how good he is. But do you feel that Hatton would go back up to 147 after just having 2 fights at 140? i cant see anybody else coming to chase Hatton at 140 too high risk imo.
CC ive enjoyed the talk so far!
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IMO What he has is mind is Urango, June 2 againstCastillo in a possible PPV then if he comes through all that, a superfight PPV at 147/154 against Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley or Oscar.
Hatton at 154 ? isnt that bit to far out of his depth? the big names imo are at 147 there is no need for him going that far up. so is this just a thoery or has he acctually said those words ?
He'd face Oscar, Mayweather, Mosley or Cotto regardless of weight class. They are his own words.
Intresting so he doesnt have any needs to stay at 140 then ? what i dont understand know is why the F*** is he fighting Urango then ?
His next fight is Castillo, which is a super fight in its own right. That one is at 140. Urango is a world title fight, a re-adjustment to 140, and should be a barnstorrmer while it lasts, to get the american fans talking.
Intresing! cheers for the info bro i thought that he was just gona stay at 140 and be a nonrisk taker!
Of course, I'm pro-Hatton so someone is going to come along and say that he's gonna be a 140 non-risk taker but at this stage of the game, Hatton and HBO will be cashing in on his style, his rep and his character to match him up against the biggest names, Cotto and Floyd don't have a name like Kostya Tszyu on their resumes' and surely they would want a name like Ricky Hatton's on theirs.
So what if Hatton dont deliver against Urango? what will happen then? I'm scared that something bad may happen yano and it ends up Hatton staying at 140 for a long time.
If Hatton does lose to Urango then I think thats when Hatton will go to 147, because it will be a sign that the 140 is finally too much low him to make, to be honest I think that severe weight drain is the only way Hatton loses to Urango other than a freak lucky punch, or Urango being 10 times better than we think he it.
Yer from what i've heard i aint heard he is much but i aint seen him fight so i cant judge how good he is. But do you feel that Hatton would go back up to 147 after just having 2 fights at 140? i cant see anybody else coming to chase Hatton at 140 too high risk imo.
CC ive enjoyed the talk so far!
Its well known in the UK that Junior Witter has been chasing a fight with Hatton for years, but for some reason or another it has never transpired. Witter now has the WBC title, winning it by beating Chop Chop Corley in an absolute stinker when it was vacated by Floyd Mayweather, and is fighting on the same night as Hatton in the UK as part of the Sky Sports PPV broadcast, Junior is famous for being destroyed albeit on two weeks notice by Zab Judah, and has a big mouth. Witter is a switch hitter from the Brendan Ingle camp (Naz's former trainer) and used to be quite a devastating puncher, but now is very safety first and boring to watch, HBO is not intrested in showing a Witter v Hatton fight, 1. Because Witter is an asshole, and 2. the fight would be terrible, with Hatton most likely squeaking out a UD because Witter ran from him the whole time.
Another possible match up at 140 would be the winner of Vivian Harris v Juan Lazcano but both have been exposed at 140/135 and Hatton would be going over old ground, Lazcano and Harris have both pulled out of match ups with Hatton in the past. Lazcano was the reason Hatton was so under prepared against Collazo at 147, because Lazcano pulled out just 7 weeks before the fight with a hand injury, leaving Hatton 2 options, take Collazo at 147 or scrap the HBO date. Hatton chose the former, and it nearly cost him dear. Most fighters take 3 months of preparation to un-naturally step up a weight class, Billy Graham (Hatton's trainer) begged Hatton not to take the fight because he saw something in Collazo and thought it was a bad idea going up a weight class at such short notice, but he still went ahead with it. I think next time Hatton fights at 147 he will be fully prepared. Bear in mind, the four rivals I mentioned who Hatton would step up in weight to fight, Oscar, Mosley, Cotto and Mayweather all began life at lower weight classes, so the size differential would probably not be too much a problem.
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IMO, Castillo is the only worthwhile fight for Hatton at 140. I think Castillo is the best guy there (I'm picking him over Hatton unless he looks shot in his upcoming warm-up), and I think there's no question that Hatton beats everyone else in the division (Harris, Corrales, Witter, etc.) and really no point to those fights. I'd love to see Pacquiau work up to 140 to fight Hatton though.
If he gets by Castillo (which for me is a huge "if"--I'd put it at 40%), he should leave 140 for good, take his time to get into 147 with a relatively easy warm-up and plenty of time to adjust to the weight pre-fight, and then go after the big fights there--Cotto, Margarito, Mosely, and maybe Williams and a Collazo rematch. I don't think he'll ever get as big a name as ODH or Mayweather in the ring with him unless he convincingly beats Cotto, Margarito or Mosely (none of which fights I'd pick him to win--though I'd give him a shot against Margarito).
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IMO, Castillo is the only worthwhile fight for Hatton at 140. I think Castillo is the best guy there (I'm picking him over Hatton unless he looks shot in his upcoming warm-up), and I think there's no question that Hatton beats everyone else in the division (Harris, Corrales, Witter, etc.) and really no point to those fights. I'd love to see Pacquiau work up to 140 to fight Hatton though.
If he gets by Castillo (which for me is a huge "if"--I'd put it at 40%), he should leave 140 for good, take his time to get into 147 with a relatively easy warm-up and plenty of time to adjust to the weight pre-fight, and then go after the big fights there--Cotto, Margarito, Mosely, and maybe Williams and a Collazo rematch. I don't think he'll ever get as big a name as ODH or Mayweather in the ring with him unless he convincingly beats Cotto, Margarito or Mosely (none of which fights I'd pick him to win--though I'd give him a shot against Margarito).
Intresting, Margarito is the one i'd give him least of a chance against!
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We saw what happened in his last attempt at 147, I think he stays at 140 for a while.
For those sayin he would fight Cotto & Oscar etc at any weight that crazy no way he beats those guys at 147 & up. I think Hatton would struggle with most guys in the top 10 at 147.
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Hatton will NOT fight at 154lb. Not a chance in hell!
He is comfortable at 140lb and can make the weight. He has never failed to do so so why all these people question his weight is beyond me!
You will see on saturday night how good hatton can really be. You will see a hatton that can box as well as brawl and hold ;)
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In the style Hatton fights and the way his weight goes out of control I think he has about 2 or 3 good years left in him.
Pressure fighters like Hatton tend to only have a short prime and this is his prime right now.
So with that in mind all of Hattons fights from now on should be superfights coz the clock is tiking away and so is Hattons prime.
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Of course, I'm pro-Hatton so someone is going to come along and say that he's gonna be a 140 non-risk taker but at this stage of the game, Hatton and HBO will be cashing in on his style, his rep and his character to match him up against the biggest names, Cotto and Floyd don't have a name like Kostya Tszyu on their resumes' and surely they would want a name like Ricky Hatton's on theirs.
Ummm, Floyd is going to have the name Oscar De La Hoya on his resume in a few months, which is a better name than an old, inactive Kostya Tszyu. Diego Corrales was also top 6 or 7 PFP when he fought Floyd in '01.
If Hatton is willing to get in the ring with Mayweather at 147, I'll be very impressed with his courage, because Floyd would work him over from the opening bell.
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Of course, I'm pro-Hatton so someone is going to come along and say that he's gonna be a 140 non-risk taker but at this stage of the game, Hatton and HBO will be cashing in on his style, his rep and his character to match him up against the biggest names, Cotto and Floyd don't have a name like Kostya Tszyu on their resumes' and surely they would want a name like Ricky Hatton's on theirs.
Ummm, Floyd is going to have the name Oscar De La Hoya on his resume in a few months, which is a better name than an old, inactive Kostya Tszyu. Diego Corrales was also top 6 or 7 PFP when he fought Floyd in '01.
If Hatton is willing to get in the ring with Mayweather at 147, I'll be very impressed with his courage, because Floyd would work him over from the opening bell.
Floyd may well have the name of Oscar De La Hoya on his resume in a few months, but he will also have a L on his record after the fight ;)
Im with you here Tam, i believe Ricky will have a couple more fights at 140, then move on towards the end of the year to 147 for the superfights ie Mayweather, Cotto etc. ;)
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First of all, lets get one thing out of the way, Ricky Hatton will never fight Oscar De La Hoya or Floyd Mayweather. These two would never, ever, ever happen.
Ricky is a great junior welterweight but he's been far surpassed by the likes of Oscar and Floyd, two guys who have ambitions way beyond fighting Ricky Hatton.
Oscar wants to beat the best p4p fighter in the world, Floyd wants world titles at 5 different weights so neither is going to move down two divisions to face Hatton, and Hattone certainly isn't going to come up any time soon.
As for Ricky's future at 140, I think there are some good fights out there for him. The potential megafight with Castillo would be huge, Diego Coralles is rumoured to be moving up to 147 but will no doubt fancy a fight or two at 140 just to dip his toes, so two potential great matchups there.
A domestic showdown with Witter surely isn't too far away, I'd imagine negotiations would begin by the end of the year if both are still world champions for a fight in the summer of 2008 or thereabouts.
Looking to the future there are two or three potential big names coming to 140 lb.
Lamont Peterson could be in position to launch a title challenge by 2008 and Britain's own Amir Khan will probably be at world level around 2009. I'd expect Khan to be a light welter by the end of 2008 at the latest so I'm sure a big showdown between the pair of them could happen some time in the future.
As for the guys above him, I honestly don't give Hatton a shot against any of the top guys at 147 lb.
Margarito is too big, so is Williams, Mayweather would dance rings around him, Cotto would batter him at 147 lb.
I don't honestly see any success for Hatton at 147, I couldn't see him beating Cintron to be honest.
Ricky is a great all action fighter, but the truth is he isn't as good as people make out.
He's the best there is at 140 now, no question, but tht is largely due to the fact that his biggest rivals at the weight have all moved up succesfully, something which Ricky unfortunately didn't manage to do :-\
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First of all, lets get one thing out of the way, Ricky Hatton will never fight Oscar De La Hoya or Floyd Mayweather. These two would never, ever, ever happen.
Ricky is a great junior welterweight but he's been far surpassed by the likes of Oscar and Floyd, two guys who have ambitions way beyond fighting Ricky Hatton.
Oscar wants to beat the best p4p fighter in the world, Floyd wants world titles at 5 different weights so neither is going to move down two divisions to face Hatton, and Hattone certainly isn't going to come up any time soon.
As for Ricky's future at 140, I think there are some good fights out there for him. The potential megafight with Castillo would be huge, Diego Coralles is rumoured to be moving up to 147 but will no doubt fancy a fight or two at 140 just to dip his toes, so two potential great matchups there.
A domestic showdown with Witter surely isn't too far away, I'd imagine negotiations would begin by the end of the year if both are still world champions for a fight in the summer of 2008 or thereabouts.
Looking to the future there are two or three potential big names coming to 140 lb.
Lamont Peterson could be in position to launch a title challenge by 2008 and Britain's own Amir Khan will probably be at world level around 2009. I'd expect Khan to be a light welter by the end of 2008 at the latest so I'm sure a big showdown between the pair of them could happen some time in the future.
As for the guys above him, I honestly don't give Hatton a shot against any of the top guys at 147 lb.
Margarito is too big, so is Williams, Mayweather would dance rings around him, Cotto would batter him at 147 lb.
I don't honestly see any success for Hatton at 147, I couldn't see him beating Cintron to be honest.
Ricky is a great all action fighter, but the truth is he isn't as good as people make out.
He's the best there is at 140 now, no question, but tht is largely due to the fact that his biggest rivals at the weight have all moved up succesfully, something which Ricky unfortunately didn't manage to do :-\
I agree with every word of this post.
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First of all, lets get one thing out of the way, Ricky Hatton will never fight Oscar De La Hoya or Floyd Mayweather. These two would never, ever, ever happen.
Ricky is a great junior welterweight but he's been far surpassed by the likes of Oscar and Floyd, two guys who have ambitions way beyond fighting Ricky Hatton.
Oscar wants to beat the best p4p fighter in the world, Floyd wants world titles at 5 different weights so neither is going to move down two divisions to face Hatton, and Hattone certainly isn't going to come up any time soon.
As for Ricky's future at 140, I think there are some good fights out there for him. The potential megafight with Castillo would be huge, Diego Coralles is rumoured to be moving up to 147 but will no doubt fancy a fight or two at 140 just to dip his toes, so two potential great matchups there.
A domestic showdown with Witter surely isn't too far away, I'd imagine negotiations would begin by the end of the year if both are still world champions for a fight in the summer of 2008 or thereabouts.
Looking to the future there are two or three potential big names coming to 140 lb.
Lamont Peterson could be in position to launch a title challenge by 2008 and Britain's own Amir Khan will probably be at world level around 2009. I'd expect Khan to be a light welter by the end of 2008 at the latest so I'm sure a big showdown between the pair of them could happen some time in the future.
As for the guys above him, I honestly don't give Hatton a shot against any of the top guys at 147 lb.
Margarito is too big, so is Williams, Mayweather would dance rings around him, Cotto would batter him at 147 lb.
I don't honestly see any success for Hatton at 147, I couldn't see him beating Cintron to be honest.
Ricky is a great all action fighter, but the truth is he isn't as good as people make out.
He's the best there is at 140 now, no question, but tht is largely due to the fact that his biggest rivals at the weight have all moved up succesfully, something which Ricky unfortunately didn't manage to do :-\
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Ricky was tentatively offered the Oscar fight whilst Floyd was twiddling on his thumb deciding so thats not 100% true now is it?!
And if Floyd loses to Oscar, the next big fight out there for him alongside Cotto is Hatton. So to say it will never ever happen is wide of the mark
Hatton would get rid of Cintron in the same way Miguel did. Once he was hit to the body he didn't want to know
And if moving up a weight and winning the World title isn't successful I don't know what is?
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And if moving up a weight and winning the World title isn't successful I don't know what is?
This line is a little exaggerated, don't you think?
Hatton won, but it was very close and he didn't look that good.
Also, Collazo is a nice fighter and he did technically own a WBA belt, but let's be honest, he was as much of a welterweight champ as Mariano Carrera is a middleweight champ. Random alphabet belts mean absolutely nothing. Pacquiao doesn't even have a belt at 130 right now, that should be all the evidence anyone needs to know belts mean hardly anything anymore.
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First of all, lets get one thing out of the way, Ricky Hatton will never fight Oscar De La Hoya or Floyd Mayweather. These two would never, ever, ever happen.
Ricky is a great junior welterweight but he's been far surpassed by the likes of Oscar and Floyd, two guys who have ambitions way beyond fighting Ricky Hatton.
Oscar wants to beat the best p4p fighter in the world, Floyd wants world titles at 5 different weights so neither is going to move down two divisions to face Hatton, and Hattone certainly isn't going to come up any time soon.
As for Ricky's future at 140, I think there are some good fights out there for him. The potential megafight with Castillo would be huge, Diego Coralles is rumoured to be moving up to 147 but will no doubt fancy a fight or two at 140 just to dip his toes, so two potential great matchups there.
A domestic showdown with Witter surely isn't too far away, I'd imagine negotiations would begin by the end of the year if both are still world champions for a fight in the summer of 2008 or thereabouts.
Looking to the future there are two or three potential big names coming to 140 lb.
Lamont Peterson could be in position to launch a title challenge by 2008 and Britain's own Amir Khan will probably be at world level around 2009. I'd expect Khan to be a light welter by the end of 2008 at the latest so I'm sure a big showdown between the pair of them could happen some time in the future.
As for the guys above him, I honestly don't give Hatton a shot against any of the top guys at 147 lb.
Margarito is too big, so is Williams, Mayweather would dance rings around him, Cotto would batter him at 147 lb.
I don't honestly see any success for Hatton at 147, I couldn't see him beating Cintron to be honest.
Ricky is a great all action fighter, but the truth is he isn't as good as people make out.
He's the best there is at 140 now, no question, but tht is largely due to the fact that his biggest rivals at the weight have all moved up succesfully, something which Ricky unfortunately didn't manage to do :-\
When you think about it why wasnt it succesful? he still won the fight and became a 2 weight world champ. He might not have been as succesful as the other champs but he still won the fight and got the belt. If a fighter is moving up in weight they should have 3 months prep at least! never mind 6 weeks! or whatever is was! I still feel Luiz was a difficult fighter for Ricky and Ricky paid the price for that. But what was the harm in staying at 147 seeing himself have a couple more fights and fighting the tougher men? I would prefer to see Ricky Hatton fight Cotto and lose, than to watch Ricky hatton-Urango imo! it will be a better fight draw more money etc! i aint really looking forward to this fight on sat cos i know he is going to win. But if Hatton fought a big name at 147 with a years experience behind him i would really enjoy it!
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We saw what happened in his last attempt at 147, I think he stays at 140 for a while.
For those sayin he would fight Cotto & Oscar etc at any weight that crazy no way he beats those guys at 147 & up. I think Hatton would struggle with most guys in the top 10 at 147.
I agree with you saying he would find it hard to beat them but you have to think about training and maturing into the weight. I think a match up with anybody in the top 10 would be a good,edge of your seat fight! i really want to see Hatton get back to 147 soon and be with the big guns again.
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IMO What he has is mind is Urango, June 2 againstCastillo in a possible PPV then if he comes through all that, a superfight PPV at 147/154 against Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley or Oscar.
Hatton at 154 ? isnt that bit to far out of his depth? the big names imo are at 147 there is no need for him going that far up. so is this just a thoery or has he acctually said those words ?
He'd face Oscar, Mayweather, Mosley or Cotto regardless of weight class. They are his own words.
Intresting so he doesnt have any needs to stay at 140 then ? what i dont understand know is why the F*** is he fighting Urango then ?
His next fight is Castillo, which is a super fight in its own right. That one is at 140. Urango is a world title fight, a re-adjustment to 140, and should be a barnstorrmer while it lasts, to get the american fans talking.
Intresing! cheers for the info bro i thought that he was just gona stay at 140 and be a nonrisk taker!
Of course, I'm pro-Hatton so someone is going to come along and say that he's gonna be a 140 non-risk taker but at this stage of the game, Hatton and HBO will be cashing in on his style, his rep and his character to match him up against the biggest names, Cotto and Floyd don't have a name like Kostya Tszyu on their resumes' and surely they would want a name like Ricky Hatton's on theirs.
So what if Hatton dont deliver against Urango? what will happen then? I'm scared that something bad may happen yano and it ends up Hatton staying at 140 for a long time.
If Hatton does lose to Urango then I think thats when Hatton will go to 147, because it will be a sign that the 140 is finally too much low him to make, to be honest I think that severe weight drain is the only way Hatton loses to Urango other than a freak lucky punch, or Urango being 10 times better than we think he it.
Yer from what i've heard i aint heard he is much but i aint seen him fight so i cant judge how good he is. But do you feel that Hatton would go back up to 147 after just having 2 fights at 140? i cant see anybody else coming to chase Hatton at 140 too high risk imo.
CC ive enjoyed the talk so far!
Its well known in the UK that Junior Witter has been chasing a fight with Hatton for years, but for some reason or another it has never transpired. Witter now has the WBC title, winning it by beating Chop Chop Corley in an absolute stinker when it was vacated by Floyd Mayweather, and is fighting on the same night as Hatton in the UK as part of the Sky Sports PPV broadcast, Junior is famous for being destroyed albeit on two weeks notice by Zab Judah, and has a big mouth. Witter is a switch hitter from the Brendan Ingle camp (Naz's former trainer) and used to be quite a devastating puncher, but now is very safety first and boring to watch, HBO is not intrested in showing a Witter v Hatton fight, 1. Because Witter is an asshole, and 2. the fight would be terrible, with Hatton most likely squeaking out a UD because Witter ran from him the whole time.
Another possible match up at 140 would be the winner of Vivian Harris v Juan Lazcano but both have been exposed at 140/135 and Hatton would be going over old ground, Lazcano and Harris have both pulled out of match ups with Hatton in the past. Lazcano was the reason Hatton was so under prepared against Collazo at 147, because Lazcano pulled out just 7 weeks before the fight with a hand injury, leaving Hatton 2 options, take Collazo at 147 or scrap the HBO date. Hatton chose the former, and it nearly cost him dear. Most fighters take 3 months of preparation to un-naturally step up a weight class, Billy Graham (Hatton's trainer) begged Hatton not to take the fight because he saw something in Collazo and thought it was a bad idea going up a weight class at such short notice, but he still went ahead with it. I think next time Hatton fights at 147 he will be fully prepared. Bear in mind, the four rivals I mentioned who Hatton would step up in weight to fight, Oscar, Mosley, Cotto and Mayweather all began life at lower weight classes, so the size differential would probably not be too much a problem.
Being honest would a match up with Lazcano/harris be good to watch ? i just dont see it being too attrative on the basis of their last match up. Lazcano was favoured by the judges and should not have won against a no good bum! and Harris got ko'd against Maussa who Hatton ko'd. The 4 rivals sound tempting and i would like to see Ricky fight any of them.
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First of all, lets get one thing out of the way, Ricky Hatton will never fight Oscar De La Hoya or Floyd Mayweather. These two would never, ever, ever happen.
Ricky is a great junior welterweight but he's been far surpassed by the likes of Oscar and Floyd, two guys who have ambitions way beyond fighting Ricky Hatton.
Oscar wants to beat the best p4p fighter in the world, Floyd wants world titles at 5 different weights so neither is going to move down two divisions to face Hatton, and Hattone certainly isn't going to come up any time soon.
As for Ricky's future at 140, I think there are some good fights out there for him. The potential megafight with Castillo would be huge, Diego Coralles is rumoured to be moving up to 147 but will no doubt fancy a fight or two at 140 just to dip his toes, so two potential great matchups there.
A domestic showdown with Witter surely isn't too far away, I'd imagine negotiations would begin by the end of the year if both are still world champions for a fight in the summer of 2008 or thereabouts.
Looking to the future there are two or three potential big names coming to 140 lb.
Lamont Peterson could be in position to launch a title challenge by 2008 and Britain's own Amir Khan will probably be at world level around 2009. I'd expect Khan to be a light welter by the end of 2008 at the latest so I'm sure a big showdown between the pair of them could happen some time in the future.
As for the guys above him, I honestly don't give Hatton a shot against any of the top guys at 147 lb.
Margarito is too big, so is Williams, Mayweather would dance rings around him, Cotto would batter him at 147 lb.
I don't honestly see any success for Hatton at 147, I couldn't see him beating Cintron to be honest.
Ricky is a great all action fighter, but the truth is he isn't as good as people make out.
He's the best there is at 140 now, no question, but tht is largely due to the fact that his biggest rivals at the weight have all moved up succesfully, something which Ricky unfortunately didn't manage to do :-\
How can you say a fight with ODLH or FM would never happen??????????
If Hatton keeps winning and FM keep winning then it would be a natural fight that the fans would demand even if it seems unlightly at the moment.
I agree that a fight with ODLH would seem a fight to far but if the fight could be made then I think Ricky should take it coz thats what being a top class fighter is all about.Defing the odds and trying to do the impossible,just like ODLH did against Hopkins.It did not do him any harm to lose to a bigger fighter.
Who would have thought that after the first Bruno-Tyson fight that they would be having a rematch 7 or 8 years latter with BRUNO as the world champ.
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yep considering hatton says he's only gonna stay in the game for maybe three more years then i reckon he should be chasing thte super fights aswell. but most of them if you ask me are up at welter, which would mean ricky would have to pack on the 7 pounds and move up to rumble with those boys. but if he's gonna be fighting mega fights then it doesnt leave him with much time for an easier warm up fight at welter if he's only got the three years left. i would like to see him up at welter again soon, but this time properly prepared and given enough notice. and yes there are some dangerous fights up there that he could lose, but if you ask me hatton gives any of em a nightmare in the ring and always makes for an exciting fight. he would not be a walk over for any one at welter.
and by the way i think oscar is gonna hammer floyd. he's got more balls and could box him or fight him, and floyd will be the one goin backwards and trying to box.
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I don't see any reason why a DLH-Hatton fight would take place. I know there were some reports somewhere of discussions between them, but I have to chalk that up to nothing but financial posturing. There is no reason for DLH to fight Hatton.
At this point his career, DLH is fighting simply to enhance his legacy, and there are very few opponents out there who can do that for him. Ricky Hatton is not one of them. What would Oscar prove by beating Hatton? Nothing.
The only three names that matter to DLH are Mayweather, Wright, and Trinidad.
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And if Floyd loses to Oscar, the next big fight out there for him alongside Cotto is Hatton. So to say it will never ever happen is wide of the mark
I gotta disagree with this statement, bigger names for PBF are Cotto, Mosley and Margarito has been a much bigger hyped fight outside of the UK. If he beats ODLH convincingly he may move up even more to 160 to fight Jermain Taylor or Winky Wright.
Going down to 140 or even 147 to fight Hatton will do nothing but make Hatton's fans happy.
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First of all, lets get one thing out of the way, Ricky Hatton will never fight Oscar De La Hoya or Floyd Mayweather. These two would never, ever, ever happen.
Ricky is a great junior welterweight but he's been far surpassed by the likes of Oscar and Floyd, two guys who have ambitions way beyond fighting Ricky Hatton.
Oscar wants to beat the best p4p fighter in the world, Floyd wants world titles at 5 different weights so neither is going to move down two divisions to face Hatton, and Hattone certainly isn't going to come up any time soon.
As for Ricky's future at 140, I think there are some good fights out there for him. The potential megafight with Castillo would be huge, Diego Coralles is rumoured to be moving up to 147 but will no doubt fancy a fight or two at 140 just to dip his toes, so two potential great matchups there.
A domestic showdown with Witter surely isn't too far away, I'd imagine negotiations would begin by the end of the year if both are still world champions for a fight in the summer of 2008 or thereabouts.
Looking to the future there are two or three potential big names coming to 140 lb.
Lamont Peterson could be in position to launch a title challenge by 2008 and Britain's own Amir Khan will probably be at world level around 2009. I'd expect Khan to be a light welter by the end of 2008 at the latest so I'm sure a big showdown between the pair of them could happen some time in the future.
As for the guys above him, I honestly don't give Hatton a shot against any of the top guys at 147 lb.
Margarito is too big, so is Williams, Mayweather would dance rings around him, Cotto would batter him at 147 lb.
I don't honestly see any success for Hatton at 147, I couldn't see him beating Cintron to be honest.
Ricky is a great all action fighter, but the truth is he isn't as good as people make out.
He's the best there is at 140 now, no question, but tht is largely due to the fact that his biggest rivals at the weight have all moved up succesfully, something which Ricky unfortunately didn't manage to do :-\
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Ricky was tentatively offered the Oscar fight whilst Floyd was twiddling on his thumb deciding so thats not 100% true now is it?!
And if Floyd loses to Oscar, the next big fight out there for him alongside Cotto is Hatton. So to say it will never ever happen is wide of the mark
Hatton would get rid of Cintron in the same way Miguel did. Once he was hit to the body he didn't want to know
And if moving up a weight and winning the World title isn't successful I don't know what is?
Firstly after Mayweather if De La Hoya does fight on he'll fight either Winky Wright or Shane Mosely for a third time. Its possible he would face Trinidad if he came out of retirement but I'd say that would be unlikely.
The most likely outcome is that Oscar retires following the Mayweather fight, if not then a fight with his partner Winky would probably be the most likely. Hatton no way in hell. How is Oscar going to get down to 140? And you think Hatton would move up to 154lb? That ain't happening.
As for Mayweather, win or lose he will (providing he fights on) be looking soley at the 154lb division. He is far morel likely to chase a match with Cory Spinks or Travis Simms than he is to go backwards and drop two divisions to fight Ricky Hatton, whose star has already been replaced by Miguel Cotto.
As for Cotto dropping Cintron with a bodypunch, I am afraid this fight has never happened, unless you were lucky enough to see them sparring?
It was Quintana that Cotto beat in his last fight, he has never fought Cintron.
Cintron has only one defeat on his record to Margarito, but at 5 ft 11 and with knockout power in both hands I'd say Cintron would have far too much for Ricky Hatton.
Hatton relies on bullying his opponents, he sure as hell couldn't bully Cintron who could probably quite easily make 160 if he wanted. Cintron is a big lad.
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Mayweather has said time and time again that he goes where the big fights go. He also said on Quite Frankly that he doesn't plan on going any higher then 154 and wants to dominate 140 - 154. 147 is where the big fights are. Floyd will be ringside at Hatton's next fight, the fight between the two would be HUGE and Floyd knows that. The only thing that tops it is a fight with De La Hoya. If Hatton beats Urango and Castillo and Mayweather beats De La Hoya, there will be no bigger match to make in boxing.
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Firstly after Mayweather if De La Hoya does fight on he'll fight either Winky Wright or Shane Mosely for a third time. Its possible he would face Trinidad if he came out of retirement but I'd say that would be unlikely.
The most likely outcome is that Oscar retires following the Mayweather fight, if not then a fight with his partner Winky would probably be the most likely. Hatton no way in hell. How is Oscar going to get down to 140? And you think Hatton would move up to 154lb? That ain't happening.
As for Mayweather, win or lose he will (providing he fights on) be looking soley at the 154lb division. He is far morel likely to chase a match with Cory Spinks or Travis Simms than he is to go backwards and drop two divisions to fight Ricky Hatton, whose star has already been replaced by Miguel Cotto.
As for Cotto dropping Cintron with a bodypunch, I am afraid this fight has never happened, unless you were lucky enough to see them sparring?
It was Quintana that Cotto beat in his last fight, he has never fought Cintron.
Cintron has only one defeat on his record to Margarito, but at 5 ft 11 and with knockout power in both hands I'd say Cintron would have far too much for Ricky Hatton.
Hatton relies on bullying his opponents, he sure as hell couldn't bully Cintron who could probably quite easily make 160 if he wanted. Cintron is a big lad.
Sorry lad your right, I thought you meant Quintana
All other points are null and void
Would cc if I could even though I disagree with some of your other points :)
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Mayweather has said time and time again that he goes where the big fights go. He also said on Quite Frankly that he doesn't plan on going any higher then 154 and wants to dominate 140 - 154. 147 is where the big fights are. Floyd will be ringside at Hatton's next fight, the fight between the two would be HUGE and Floyd knows that. The only thing that tops it is a fight with De La Hoya. If Hatton beats Urango and Castillo and Mayweather beats De La Hoya, there will be no bigger match to make in boxing.
I've gotta strongly disagree with that. In my mind, without a doubt the biggest fight for Floyd if he beats ODH is against Winky at 154. Winky will take that fight--he's only been at 160 for a couple fights, and he's been very vocal about the fact that the fight he wants most is against the winner of PBF/ODH. A PBF/Winky fight would pit two of the top 3 p4p fighters in the world against each other. No other make-able fight does anything like that.
I agree with Killer Sheep that a PBF fight against any of Mosely, Cotto or Margarito would be a bigger fight than against Hatton as well--though I do agree, amat, that if Hatton finds away to get past Castillo (and Cotto or Margarito knocks the other guy out of the picture in June), the equation changes. But Winky is still a bigger fight regardless.
Finally, if PBF were ever to drop down to 140, the megafight there is against Pacquiao, not Hatton. This is the biggest fight out there, though very unlikely to happen. But I believe Pac came into the 3rd Morales fight at like 145 or 147, which is only a couple pounds less than PBF came into the Baldomir fight at. And Floyd seems to be getting annoyed with all of the recent talk that Pacquiao is catching up to him p4p-wise. I read a boxingtalk interview with Floyd a couple weeks ago where he said "Pacquiao is an exciting little fighter, but if we met at 140, I would beat that ass." Which was a far more intriguing answer than something like "my next fight's at 154 and that guy fights at 130, what the hell are you talking about?"
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Mayweather has said time and time again that he goes where the big fights go. He also said on Quite Frankly that he doesn't plan on going any higher then 154 and wants to dominate 140 - 154. 147 is where the big fights are. Floyd will be ringside at Hatton's next fight, the fight between the two would be HUGE and Floyd knows that. The only thing that tops it is a fight with De La Hoya. If Hatton beats Urango and Castillo and Mayweather beats De La Hoya, there will be no bigger match to make in boxing.
I've gotta strongly disagree with that. In my mind, without a doubt the biggest fight for Floyd if he beats ODH is against Winky at 154. Winky will take that fight--he's only been at 160 for a couple fights, and he's been very vocal about the fact that the fight he wants most is against the winner of PBF/ODH. A PBF/Winky fight would pit two of the top 3 p4p fighters in the world against each other. No other make-able fight does anything like that.
I agree with Killer Sheep that a PBF fight against any of Mosely, Cotto or Margarito would be a bigger fight than against Hatton as well--though I do agree, amat, that if Hatton finds away to get past Castillo (and Cotto or Margarito knocks the other guy out of the picture in June), the equation changes. But Winky is still a bigger fight regardless.
Finally, if PBF were ever to drop down to 140, the megafight there is against Pacquiao, not Hatton. This is the biggest fight out there, though very unlikely to happen. But I believe Pac came into the 3rd Morales fight at like 145 or 147, which is only a couple pounds less than PBF came into the Baldomir fight at. And Floyd seems to be getting annoyed with all of the recent talk that Pacquiao is catching up to him p4p-wise. I read a boxingtalk interview with Floyd a couple weeks ago where he said "Pacquiao is an exciting little fighter, but if we met at 140, I would beat that a**." Which was a far more intriguing answer than something like "my next fight's at 154 and that guy fights at 130, what the hell are you talking about?"
Now i do agree manny pac-Floyd mayweather would be a bigger match up then Hatton-floyd. But when you think about it Manny should dominate where he is comfotable. Floyd imo has gone to high going to 140 would be pointless just to fight manny imo. I know it would be a super fight but it just wouldnt make sense thinking about it imo. But i do feel Hatton should go 147 and take a floyd fight. Not floyd go to 140 fight manny and ricky that would be a stupid move imo!
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IMO What he has is mind is Urango, June 2 againstCastillo in a possible PPV then if he comes through all that, a superfight PPV at 147/154 against Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley or Oscar.
Hatton at 154 ? isnt that bit to far out of his depth? the big names imo are at 147 there is no need for him going that far up. so is this just a thoery or has he acctually said those words ?
He'd face Oscar, Mayweather, Mosley or Cotto regardless of weight class. They are his own words.
Intresting so he doesnt have any needs to stay at 140 then ? what i dont understand know is why the fuck is he fighting Urango then ?
What you don't seem to understand in most of your posts Tam , is these superfights are becoming increasingly difficult to make. He had a 3 fight deal with HBO that should enable his 3rd fight to be a superfight with Castillo. HBO most probably advise him against fighting guys like Cotto or Mayweather. That being said, fights against Cotto and Mayweather are probably extremely hard to make anyway. I don't see how staying at 140 and beatin Castillo, Corrales, Witter and D-hop is a lame way out. He already has a massive win under his belt. Wins over them 4 guys would add up to a superb legacy. He only wants between 4 and 6 fights including the Urango one. He wants to get out by the time he's 30-31. I don't think Hatton is particularly on Mayweather's radar to be honest.
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I would like Ricky Hatton to fight the following all at 140
Jose Luis Castillo
Junior Witter
Diego Corrales
Paul Spadafora/Paulie Malinaggi/Joel Casamayor (may be a good fight as they are slick southpaws)
Juan Diaz
Acelino Frietas
a mega fight with Cotto at 147
a fight vs Lenny Daws or Amir Kahn to end his career
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IMO What he has is mind is Urango, June 2 againstCastillo in a possible PPV then if he comes through all that, a superfight PPV at 147/154 against Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley or Oscar.
Hatton at 154 ? isnt that bit to far out of his depth? the big names imo are at 147 there is no need for him going that far up. so is this just a thoery or has he acctually said those words ?
He'd face Oscar, Mayweather, Mosley or Cotto regardless of weight class. They are his own words.
Intresting so he doesnt have any needs to stay at 140 then ? what i dont understand know is why the F*** is he fighting Urango then ?
What you don't seem to understand in most of your posts Tam , is these superfights are becoming increasingly difficult to make. He had a 3 fight deal with HBO that should enable his 3rd fight to be a superfight with Castillo. HBO most probably advise him against fighting guys like Cotto or Mayweather. That being said, fights against Cotto and Mayweather are probably extremely hard to make anyway. I don't see how staying at 140 and beatin Castillo, Corrales, Witter and D-hop is a lame way out. He already has a massive win under his belt. Wins over them 4 guys would add up to a superb legacy. He only wants between 4 and 6 fights including the Urango one. He wants to get out by the time he's 30-31. I don't think Hatton is particularly on Mayweather's radar to be honest.
Well who would you prefer him to fight? Castillo, Corralles, Witter and D-hope or mayweather,Cotto,Margarito and Williams. I know was legeacys go i would pick the guys at 147. I think i just see it in a different light because being honest i only see Corralles and Castillo being the big names at 140. If he has 4-6 fight maybe he should concentrate of fighting the 2 big names at 140 and then move up for his last four fights at 147 and get more belts.
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IMO What he has is mind is Urango, June 2 againstCastillo in a possible PPV then if he comes through all that, a superfight PPV at 147/154 against Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley or Oscar.
Hatton at 154 ? isnt that bit to far out of his depth? the big names imo are at 147 there is no need for him going that far up. so is this just a thoery or has he acctually said those words ?
He'd face Oscar, Mayweather, Mosley or Cotto regardless of weight class. They are his own words.
Intresting so he doesnt have any needs to stay at 140 then ? what i dont understand know is why the F*** is he fighting Urango then ?
What you don't seem to understand in most of your posts Tam , is these superfights are becoming increasingly difficult to make. He had a 3 fight deal with HBO that should enable his 3rd fight to be a superfight with Castillo. HBO most probably advise him against fighting guys like Cotto or Mayweather. That being said, fights against Cotto and Mayweather are probably extremely hard to make anyway. I don't see how staying at 140 and beatin Castillo, Corrales, Witter and D-hop is a lame way out. He already has a massive win under his belt. Wins over them 4 guys would add up to a superb legacy. He only wants between 4 and 6 fights including the Urango one. He wants to get out by the time he's 30-31. I don't think Hatton is particularly on Mayweather's radar to be honest.
Well who would you prefer him to fight? Castillo, Corralles, Witter and D-hope or mayweather,Cotto,Margarito and Williams. I know was legeacys go i would pick the guys at 147. I think i just see it in a different light because being honest i only see Corralles and Castillo being the big names at 140. If he has 4-6 fight maybe he should concentrate of fighting the 2 big names at 140 and then move up for his last four fights at 147 and get more belts.
Coralles and Castillo are bigger names (aswell as bigger marquee names/ticket sellers) than Williams or Tony surely?
Williams is a good prospect and I have yet to buy into they hype surrounding Margorito.
Cotto is an altogether different story but he is on record as saying he will step up to fight Cotto at Welter. He has to get past Urango and Castillo first though so it is all ifs and buts
As a Hatton fan I would love to see him take some fights at Welter, love it but he dominates everybody at 140 so why move? Didn't do Kostya Tszyus legacy any harm did it?
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IMO What he has is mind is Urango, June 2 againstCastillo in a possible PPV then if he comes through all that, a superfight PPV at 147/154 against Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley or Oscar.
Hatton at 154 ? isnt that bit to far out of his depth? the big names imo are at 147 there is no need for him going that far up. so is this just a thoery or has he acctually said those words ?
He'd face Oscar, Mayweather, Mosley or Cotto regardless of weight class. They are his own words.
Intresting so he doesnt have any needs to stay at 140 then ? what i dont understand know is why the F*** is he fighting Urango then ?
What you don't seem to understand in most of your posts Tam , is these superfights are becoming increasingly difficult to make. He had a 3 fight deal with HBO that should enable his 3rd fight to be a superfight with Castillo. HBO most probably advise him against fighting guys like Cotto or Mayweather. That being said, fights against Cotto and Mayweather are probably extremely hard to make anyway. I don't see how staying at 140 and beatin Castillo, Corrales, Witter and D-hop is a lame way out. He already has a massive win under his belt. Wins over them 4 guys would add up to a superb legacy. He only wants between 4 and 6 fights including the Urango one. He wants to get out by the time he's 30-31. I don't think Hatton is particularly on Mayweather's radar to be honest.
Well who would you prefer him to fight? Castillo, Corralles, Witter and D-hope or mayweather,Cotto,Margarito and Williams. I know was legeacys go i would pick the guys at 147. I think i just see it in a different light because being honest i only see Corralles and Castillo being the big names at 140. If he has 4-6 fight maybe he should concentrate of fighting the 2 big names at 140 and then move up for his last four fights at 147 and get more belts.
Coralles and Castillo are bigger names (aswell as bigger marquee names/ticket sellers) than Williams or Tony surely?
Williams is a good prospect and I have yet to buy into they hype surrounding Margorito.
Cotto is an altogether different story but he is on record as saying he will step up to fight Cotto at Welter. He has to get past Urango and Castillo first though so it is all ifs and buts
As a Hatton fan I would love to see him take some fights at Welter, love it but he dominates everybody at 140 so why move? Didn't do Kostya Tszyus legacy any harm did it?
your right id want him to fight castillo and corrales than williams or margarito, then go on to finish with mayweather.
