I personally think that southern Americans are the most racist among the people
in the world. Does anyone have an opinion on the subject? I'm just asking, not
interested in a race argument, more a friendly exchange of ideas about the topic.
:)
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I personally think that southern Americans are the most racist among the people
in the world. Does anyone have an opinion on the subject? I'm just asking, not
interested in a race argument, more a friendly exchange of ideas about the topic.
:)
Drunken gibirish exchanged while watching nascar doesn't count as racism in my books ;) Actually believe it or not im gonna say the most racist group of people in the world is people in their 60's today in the us. They were in their teens- early twenties and those who didn't really want the equal rights thing passed still hold a grudge today.
Koreans as a whole are very nationalistic, but the majority are not what I would term racist. Im a married man and dont really go out all that much these days, but If I were to go downtown to the nightclub they would refuse me entry. Why? Because we cannot go in without being accompanied by a Korean friend. Thats a tad racist!
That isnt cool, but im not much of a nightclubber anyway!
I think your statement about southern Americans is crazy, it sounds as though it is directly related to black/white issues only. That racism does exist but I wouldn't say any more or less then in the north, east, or west. As you see I am the only one so far to respond to your statement. Racism as your calling it goes back hundreds of years here in the U.S. and thousands of years through out the world and it's not just black and white issues. The southern States probably has more interacial couples then anywhere in this country so how do you come to that conclusion. Racism will always exist every where in some form. Look at the middle east, and North/South Korea, most racism gets it start at the religous level and way of life and not color. I'm white and live just north of Detroit, Mi. which is about 80 to 90% black with the largest contingent of Iraqi's in the country. Texas, California, arizona have very large mexican populations and racism is there to, Is it black vs white vs brown vs yellow vs red, I dont think so. It's almost as though it's bred into us in some way. How else can you explain why the world has been at war for thousands of years. Your subject line of who the most racist is a question that can not and never will be answered. You don't say where your from in your profile or your race.Quote:
Originally Posted by hardrock
So you know, where I work there are Blacks, Mexicans, Chinese, and white people, so there's a mix of different cultures and once you get to know them their all pretty good people. My daughter goes to Wayne State University which is in Detroit and one of the most diverse schools in the nation with people from about a hundred different country's all working, learning and partying together, they all get along because they all have like interests. I think racism goes a lot deeper then color alone.
Since you asked the question maybe you can explain why you feel southern Americans are the most racist in the world. Thats a bold statement and I don't know if you can give a solid answer as to why you believe this.
BTW I'm from London and asian (Indian to the US).
White americans will always claim there is less racism than a colored american,
as colored americans will experience it from day to day (Opinion).
http://www.commonsensepatriot.com/RacistAmerica.html
There was once heavy racism against blacks in the US. Black Panthers/Dr. Luther King Jr./Malcolm x can testify to that.
stebs : You cannot blind yourself with one side of america's reality, wrong behaviour towards a colored person does happen even if you don't want to admit it.
You cannot say black americans came to this country by their own free will when they were shipped from Africa years ago.
You cannot detach 1950s 1960s America from the horrible racism they practised against black people and say new america is free from race hate.
Why is the white American's of todays society so quick to dismiss racism as history and America now a free place to live for the black man. Black means any other color than white in this context.
You know who are really racist... Adults and older people of around 35 upwards...
Its really not me saying this... So nobody take offence.. Im just explaining how i think racist people think...
But i believe they are among the most racist people.. Because there really werent all that many asian or black people in the country when they were younger..
And it really is not theyr colour..But they steriotype most coloured people to be illegal immagrants..
Some are some arent.. If you have lived in fear or terrible conditions and you want to come work in a better country with better living then fine.. work, pay your bills and taxes and pay for your home..
And there are alot that do..
In fact alot of coloured people that are mostly the next generation of the immagrants have taken up huge roles in society..Alot of asians are doctors dentists all sorts.. And people make fun of it but those that own shops and such theyr all good people too.. they work..But there is a fairly large problem with immagrants..Not steriotyping any particular race or nationality..But alot do not work and they should..
But what i think will happen like it has gradually over the years..Is the government will buck up and not let them in illegally, and the ones that did come illegally ..theyr children will live like any british person and work for a living and do the best they can..I truely believe the state will become better..
Also as far as the racist thing goes shout outs go to indians..As in people from india..
They have a whole system about the darker you are etc the worse you are..
If you are really black..They treat you like scum..
Also white south africans.. I hear that they are absolute bastards lol..
Apparently are very up themselves and rude.. And think themselves better then not only other race's but other white people of different nationalities...
Well guess thats my thoughts..
Peace
I see your point. Tricky issue O0
When I was stationed in Korea i noticed major racism...not close to the post (where we were their income) but about 1 mile away from post...Jewelers would turn their backs to you and walk out of the room refusing service to any Americans..The whole not allowed into the clubs...that got about 7 Korean bouncers (Honestly, a Korean bouncer?) beat down one dark night..:) I don't even want to get into the student riots that kept us on base....Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
I was taking a bus from New Orleans to Lafiette being English I got on the back seat some black people got on and sat near me giving me strange looks. The whites got on and gave me stranger ones, and they all sat up front. then one of the black ladys asked where I was from I said England, Oh she said over here the whites sit at the front and we sit at the back. I said , you dont mind if I sit here do you, she said no, it was a pleasant journey. But the whole thing blew my mind Ill never forget it, all men are born equell not in Louisiana theyre not
Thats weird ... Like some sort of accepted agreement between the races...Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrap
Where do the indians,pr's and mexicans sit? lol
Peace
got friends in Mississippi...they say it's a little worse than that....Sad really...Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrap
I'm an American from the South and I will tell you to go fuck yourself I don't give a shit what race you are stupid knows no color boundries and what you posted was fucking stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by hardrock
If you read my post you will see I did not blind myself to reality, shit I live in the Detroit area, if you think that I don't know racism you didn't read my post. You picked out a certain demographic area and said that they were the most racist people in the world and I asked you to explain yourself. you haven't explained in any terms why thats your opinion. I do detach myself from what happened a couple hundred years ago though, There is not a single slave alive today and not one person alive today who allowed what happened back then to take place. And no the black people did not come on their own free will, they were traded by their own people for goods. Why don't you read the article you posted up, says the same thing I said in so many words, There's racism in all races and thats a fact that will never go away . If you live in a nice big house and you talk down to the guy who lives in the trailer down the road thats a form of racism. You can get off the black and white issue, it's a form of racism that will never go away but it will get better as time goes by. As someone said above the older you are the more racism you have been exposed to.Quote:
Originally Posted by hardrock
So your from London and your an Asian, do you live in the U.S., and do you have any real world experience with southern Americans or are you just reading out of history books. You asked the question and gave your opinion and a pretty strong one at that, and all I asked you do is explain your reasoning and you try to act like I'm blind to racism. You post up some article off the internet which is not news to anyone. Is that where your opinion comes from or are you going to explain in your own words your opinion on why southern Americans are the most racist in the world. Because if all you can do is read a history book and post what others have said. That makes me wonder if you really have an opinion at all.
crazy fucking world :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrap
anyhoooo id say the KKK are the most Racist
Hope this helps :)
I think I'm a big time racist.
I like all kinds of racis.
stock car racis,drag racis..monster truck racis
Neo-Nazi's???Quote:
Originally Posted by Saddo
The KKK is less localized in the South now....not saying there aren't racists here but where AREN'T there racists?????
In England? In the North? In Canada? There are racists everywhere people like to make broad sweeping generalizing statements everywhere which is why people say THE SOUTH has the most racists....I'd say the amount of racists per capita doesn't differ throughout America, if it's not black and white it's black and hispanic, white and hispanic, black and asian, white and asian etc.
Saying "the south" is the most racist is a broad sweeping generalizing statement much like a STEREOTYPE and racism deals mainly with that....stereotypes.
I take issue with people singling out the south....that is all
Isn't it kinda racist to ask the question?
No it's kind of racist to have an answer to itQuote:
Originally Posted by Missy
:coolclick: Good pointsQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Hmmm... Im not sure Racist is the right word for it though?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
All you have to do is look what happened here in Boston when busing was instituted in the mid-70's to prove that racism isn't confined to the South.
Yep I second that :appl: , So is this thread....Are you feeling a little racist? :detective:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
someone mentioned the older folks, I think they have a point.. the older folks are racist in that they want to stay true to their race in marriage and so forth. , Latino’s can be very racist. ! as can Afro Americans, Asians, and so forth.. I think too many people only think of White folks as being prejudice. and that isn’t so... I would say its equal amongst all race and creeds !
Personally I think its a shallow narrow minded way to live, so I wont have non of it ! ;) however even as I say that, every now and again I will see someone do something stupid and I will think to myself.. " what stupid mutherfuckin *^@#~@#~ " my own race included... LMFAO !
So maybe its not prejudice if everyone gets on your nerves equally ? LMFAO ! ;D
I wish it was like that here with the sand people, except it should be entrance to the country.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
There should be a border checkpoint at every harbour where any immigrants can only gain entry providing they have DNA proof that they are immediately related to a registered white citizen.
If not load them all them up and send them to the US airforce. The new recruits could then fire them as missiles so that they get some target practise. Maybe then they would stop blowing up schools and hospitals.
Come to think of it though, militarily the hospitals and schools make good target sense to me, get them whilst they are young before they can breed.
some south white americans that I can say are racist, there is of course the KKKQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
now there are alot of black americans that are also racist towards white people and latinos as well but more to the white people.
that is what I have notice to my visits to the US and what I can see in TV in cable. I have been to Florida(5 times), Texas(3 times), California(2), Georgia(3 times), New York(4 times)
Now on another word called Hate there are people in the LAtin American countries that hate Puerto Ricas from what I have heard is beacuse of the status we have in the US been US citizens and all. Panama, Venezuela, Mexico, well in those countries I have experience hate with some people not all most where very nice people.I did had great experience durin my visits to Argentina and Colombia great great people great experience
What, like 'Southern gentleman', Lyle ? ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Not only that but the riots in Detroit and LA in the 1960's and LA again in the 1990's....race started those riots and those aren't in the South....I mean LA is in Southern California but that's different than THE SOUTH which is from Maryland or Virginia (in my opinion VA) on down to Texas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Canvasback
Southern Gentleman is not a broad sweeping statement as I am from the South and I am a gentleman therefore SOUTHERN GENTLEMAN.
Arguement 1: In the early to mid 1900s the Southern Americans were hanging negros,Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
attacking negro homes and churches and only allowed negros to use their OWN public toilets.
Now the argument, is that has changed, but you cannot just turn around and say their is a completely changed southern american. Thats like saying people flicked the OFF switch to their problems with negro culture, can you say that?
Argument 2: your probelly speaking as a white southern american and white people will not
experience life as a negro in the south of america, thats a fact.
Last argument I forgot to mention: If the KKK started in Southern America,
it is likely that they operate in a smart indirect way and you probelly are not
aware of it - no offence!
Come on the KKK operates in the south.
The KKK started up in post Civil War Tennessee (and eventually spread) not due ONLY to racism but due to the fact that Officers and Political Leaders of the Confederacy were excluded in participating in government after the end of the Civil War. People from the north were sent down to the south to run the government during Reconstruction during this time, very quick changes were made in regards to politics and everyday life and the former Confederates didn't take well to it. The Republicans (yes Republicans) helped the former slaves get into office and make strides to become true citizens of the US and kept the Democrats (yes Democrats) out of office.
SINCE RECONSTRUCTION THE KU KLUX KLAN HAS CHANGED DRASTICALLY FROM A SECRET POLITICALORGANIZATION TO A HATE GROUP
I do not agree with what they did and not EVERY white protestant southerner is in the Klan not half, not a third, most likely not 1/10th of white protestant males are in or have any affiliation with the Klan. And therefore your statement is offensive to me a white protestant southern male....also you mention things that happened in the time just after the Civil War up to oh 1960 or so when other BIGGER race riots have occured since then and OUTSIDE the Southern United States.
I don't agree with anything the Klan has ever done and I don't relate to them as a southerner either.
I think the main reason you are a bigot of Southern White people is because you're able to put racists in a group...."The Klan".....there are more racists in this country than there are Klan members but just because some racists gather together in groups doesn't make them any worse than any other racists it just makes them easier to lump them together.
You calling people in the Southern United States AND I QUOTE "The most racist people in the world" is a fucking JOKE! I don't care if you're black or hispanic, or indian or whatever the hell you are you forget of a few incidences since the Civil War and the Civil Rights movement....not to belittle those causes and those battles and those who fought on the right side but here's a couple that may resound a bit more in historical terms
Rwanda
Bosnia
Sudan(Darfur)
The Holocaust
Aparthide in South Africa
let me give you some reparations since I as a southern white male obviously benefiting of slavery have so wronged all races...no just black people, my bad....you'll have to wait your turn hispanics, I'm sure you're next on the list.
Racism exists in ALL societies (not just Whites against Blacks in the Southern States) and it's not just against black people....that is the most SELFISH and ARROGANT stance anyone could possibly have.
Thats what the friendly debate is about. Again just a friendly argument.Quote:
I personally think that southern Americans are the most racist among the people in the world. Does anyone have an opinion on the subject?
Heres what you said:
This debate has nothing to do with Rwanda, Bosnia, Sudan, The Holocaust and freaking Aparthide (which happened in South Africa which is another country).Quote:
You calling people in the Southern United States AND I QUOTE "The most racist people in the world" is a F****** JOKE! I don't care if you're black or hispanic, or indian or whatever the hell you are you forget of a few incidences since the Civil War and the Civil Rights movement....not to belittle those causes and those battles and those who fought on the right side but here's a couple that may resound a bit more in historical terms
Rwanda
Bosnia
Sudan(Darfur)
The Holocaust
Aparthide in South Africa
Again you said:
So that means there are still members of the clan still operating.Quote:
I do not agree with what they did and not EVERY white protestant southerner is in the Klan
And again you said:
So you prove one of my points, the Southern Americans are still practising racism, and lets say during the 1900s they reached a peak and they probelly are the most racist outter the two: northern America and southern America.Quote:
SINCE RECONSTRUCTION THE KU KLUX KLAN HAS CHANGED DRASTICALLY FROM A SECRET POLITICALORGANIZATION TO A HATE GROUP
Thanks for your post. Hope no offense/little offense was caused. :P
You said " personally think that southern Americans are the most racist among the people in the WORLD." and if I'm not mistaken: Rwanda, Bosnia, South Africa, and Sudan are in....the WORLD. I mean they ain't floating in outter fucking space now are they????
Did I say the KKK wasn't still operating????
Did I say that racist actions ONLY happen in the South???
You're a fucking idiot and I'm done with you
and it's probably you ignorant bastard
Ok...Im finished with this post also.
Please dun take offense (as hard as it sounds),
Its just a forum for opinions.
:) :indian_chief: :hippy: :rasta: :splurt: :wc: :moon2: :LOS: :bootyshake: :bananasex: :bananastyle: :army:
Well.....
My mother is English & my father Spanish....
My girlfriend is African mixed race!
My english Grandad is from Yorkshire and my nan was born in Glasgow, Scotland.... and then from the age of 2 raised in Wales !
And to be quite honest me & my partner couldn't care less about where were from / who we 'belong' to.
One of my best friends is Jamaican and my other is Indian.
I am grateful for the mix of society & culture - without it i wouldn't i could eat a nice Chicken curry & naan bread.... nor could i drink a rum & coke with a big reefer!
Every race has it's heroes & figures - Bruce Lee to Muhammed Ali !
Long ago the white man took over South Africa.... now the black man is expelling the white man from South Africa.
In Nottingham, race is pretty irrelevant compared to the places others describe...
...and i feel glad to live here (most of the time LOL)