Here is a good interview with Vitali on the Klitschko website.
http://www.klitschko.com/news/index....701008&part=en
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Here is a good interview with Vitali on the Klitschko website.
http://www.klitschko.com/news/index....701008&part=en
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What a fukin loser ::** WBC Emeritus ::** He doesn't even mention Peter in the interview. This guy is a disgusting, pretentious, puke-face. He MUST be stopped at all costs!!! >:mad
I hope he gets his stupid looking mug beaten into a bloody pulp. Then he can go back to distributing pedophile-porn back in the Ukraine.
What a disgrace!!!!!
You know what, I'm losing respect for that guy. Peter was right in saying that he should have said something before he beat Toney. The klits know Peter is gonna derail their dream. Here's something interesting that vitali said in that in that interview that shows how full of it he is:
Have you learned something from politics that you can take back to boxing?
I have learned a lot of things in sports that appear ineffective in politics. Honesty, truthfulness, openness and following rules – is the cornerstone of any sport. In politics it’s a big minus- more like a stone that pulls you down. Therefore there’s nothing that I can take from politics to help me in sports.
Follow rules? Honesty? Truthfulness? This guys is a joke. If that's not contradictary, I don't know what is. :beat:
Exactly! He's a disgusting simp! He needs to get a severe beat-down in the ring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bx730NY
I agree peter should get his shot, but it's really the wbc that's to blame!!! They said when he retiered that if he decides to come back he'd be the mandatory, is that so hard to understand, be pissed off at the wbc!!! He's just taking advantage of a good situation, but like I said I do think he should just take duvas offer let peter fight for the title and then vitali and peter can duke it out, and quite honestly I'm pretty sure even a 36 year old vitali takes peter!
klitchkos sucks... i mean what the hell did he do to get that emeritushorseshit? get beaten by an old lewis.. he won a vacant title if i remember correct, and defended against williams... what a fukking achievement! klits are Gays and peter is going to do them... both
I guess that's why peter did wlady around the first time...right! He couldn't put the klit down with the suposedly china chin, how the f*** is he going to put down vitali who's never been ktfo??? Simple, he isn't! Peter gets beat by either of the klits, and you know you boy peter "doing" em both would kind of make him gay too!
It's not a question of what the W.B.C decides, or whatever type of ridiculous emeritus title they hand out. This is unprecedented and absolutely insane. You don't see how Klitschko is being completely complacent with this sanctioning bodies decision? The W.B.C. is fuked up, yes, but this chump is just as fuked up for taking advantage of this emeritus b.s. Perhaps Vitali did learn quite a bit from his brief stint in politics. ::** It's pathetic, brain-dead, market hype being force fed to you. The same as it was being fed to the Germans for all of those years. Klitschko maybe be business savvy enough to cash in on it. But at what cost? He's tarnished an already blemished reputation and created a mockery out of the sport. A sport with plenty of enough black eyes to have to deal with already.Quote:
Originally Posted by armin
Is there nothing to be said about merit anymore? What about diligence and persistence? Peter has shown us all of those qualities, and whether you like him or hate him, he's walking the higher ground, both morally and ethically. Even if Dr. KlitschFRAUD gets his EMERITUS contingency plan to work, I think that many among us will see that he's just another crony, another
corrupt pugil-crat without any core substance or honor.
Don't tell us to blame the W.B.C. when both parties are equally liable. In fact, I retract that: He's more at fault because he's a fighter that was tauted as being virtuous and has turned out to be nothing short of a deviant and depraved televangelist. ::**
I do thank Klitschkofan for the read, though. Although you never answered my questions put to you about Greg Leon, I'm beginning to understand why he has such an aversion for Klitschko Inc. ::**
What a suprise the people who didn't like Vitali before he retired still don't like him. ::**
Vitali has followed ALL THE RULES as a boxer.
He didn't ask to be WBC Emeritus it was granted to him by the WBC!If anything people should have a problem with them!I posted before on the rules of this status and if people would read through it they would know Vitali is playing by the rules.
But as a person shouldn't he have morals enough to say Peter should get his shot too?Quote:
Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
As P.G.H AngelsEyes has said, and I'm paraphrasing, but Peter is taking the high ground and this is complete B.S. I know you're a fan of the Klitschkos, and I can respect that, but this is absolutely outlandish. Why can't you admit that this is wrong on both the W.B.C.'s and Vitali's part? Is it so hard for you to admit that your HERO isn't doing the right thing? Why not fight a warm up with a top 10 H.W. and THEN fight Peter for the title. ??? ??? However, you will avoid this reasoning and hide behind this EMERITUS B.S. and W.B.C. "RULES". I think you know that this is a joke. The fact that Vitali didn't even mention Peter in the interview shows what a smug, undignified, S.O.B. he is. Both these brothers were tauted as the new Emperor of H.W. Boxing; brining dignity back to the sport? What the hell was wrong with the division when Lewis ruled it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
Both Vitali and the W.B.C. are scam artists. At least his younger brother took a big chance when he fought Peter, and I take my hat off to him for that.
Answer me one question:
Setting aside this W.B.C. jargon B.S. What the hell has Vitali done or accomplished to get a mandatory title shot over Peter who fought one of the craftiest boxers in history twice, paid his sanctioning fees, and now may be possibly excluded from his well earned shot at the W.B.S. Title. Peter's a soft spoken intelligent man who is getting raked over the coals by BOTH the W.B.C. and Klitschko after busting his butt to get a shot at the title. If you can't admit to any culpability on Vitali's part, then your not worth the paper they used to write your name on your birth certificate ??? But I have a strange feeling you'll still follow this outlandish and illogical form of being unreasonable with your head up in the clouds.
You don't seem like a stupid guy...and I'm certainly not saying you are. The question that I have is if you have any decency in you.
DO THE RIGHT THING! AND YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS!
Peace
when did he lie? when didnt he follow the rules? (dont ignore this one either)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bx730NY
Lmao morals?Quote:
Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
Give me a break!!!!!!!!
Its a competitive sport for christ sake, its a sport that two men bash each others face in for CRYIN OUT LOUD.
Klitschko has not done anything wrong..
If the government wanted to give you a million dollars, but you knew someone that had "ALITTLE" less than you did, would you say, "yea, you know what. that guy over there deserves it more than me, but the next time you want to give out some cash, ill take it then. But only after that guy"
Give me a god damn break, with the Holy'er than Thou Attitude
vitali is actually a pretty decent bloke and i can't see any of the heavy weights giving him 'a beat down' like some of you reckon he so desperately deserves.
Yeah? Well, he's getting up there in age now and after a fairly significant layoff you may not see the same fighter in the ring anymore. That's speculative at this point, but as we all know, skills in the ring erode with age. Maybe this will just add fuel to an already out of control fire and give Peter the necessary motivation to KHTFO after he steals his well earned shot at Maskaev's title.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbirdy
Perhaps Vitali should be more concerned with that outcome rather than obsessing over a rematch with Lewis that will never materialize. You got T.K.O.'d!!! Get over it!
Karma has a strange way of creeping up on you and biting you right in the ass. Can't wait to see Dr. IRONpuss sprawled out on the canvas sucking wind. The man has
no integrity and is a sham.
You can't tell me that you don't find it strange that the man that was supposed to be some sort of gentleman Ambassador to the sport has turned into a FRAUD. No better than the
sanctioning body that sets precedent by handing out EMERITUS titles. ::** What a fukin JOKE :banghead:
ONCE AGAIN... I WILL BEAT THIS INTO YOUR BRAINS
I REPEAT
Lmao morals?
Give me a break!!!!!!!!
Its a competitive sport for christ sake, its a sport that two men bash each others face in for CRYIN OUT LOUD.
Klitschko has not done anything wrong..
If the government wanted to give you a million dollars, but you knew someone that had "ALITTLE" less than you did, would you say, "yea, you know what. that guy over there deserves it more than me, but the next time you want to give out some cash, ill take it then. But only after that guy"
Give me a god damn break, with the Holy'er than Thou Attitude
ONCE AGAIN
Lmao morals?
Give me a break!!!!!!!!
Its a competitive sport for christ sake, its a sport that two men bash each others face in for CRYIN OUT LOUD.
Klitschko has not done anything wrong..
If the government wanted to give you a million dollars, but you knew someone that had "ALITTLE" less than you did, would you say, "yea, you know what. that guy over there deserves it more than me, but the next time you want to give out some cash, ill take it then. But only after that guy"
Give me a god damn break, with the Holy'er than Thou Attitude
AND DONT FORGET
Lmao morals?
Give me a break!!!!!!!!
Its a competitive sport for christ sake, its a sport that two men bash each others face in for CRYIN OUT LOUD.
Klitschko has not done anything wrong..
If the government wanted to give you a million dollars, but you knew someone that had "ALITTLE" less than you did, would you say, "yea, you know what. that guy over there deserves it more than me, but the next time you want to give out some cash, ill take it then. But only after that guy"
Give me a god damn break, with the Holy'er than Thou Attitude
Congratulations on your meticulous copy/paste skills; very inventive indeed. :appl: Apparently, you just don't get the big picture. This is UNPRECEDENTED...give me one example where something like this has happened? Your inane analogy is a RED HERRING and completely idiotic! Klitschko is a scumbag. Here's another RED HERRING for you, Big Douche:Quote:
Originally Posted by Big_Deuce
If the government gave you 1 million to lick Vitali's asscrack, would you do it? No, you'd probably do it for free. :lickish: :banghead:
CC Shadow. Good job holding the fort! ;) I don't even respond to that dude no more. He's just a Klit fan and not a boxing fan. He doesn't understand how this hurts the sport we love.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Shadow
Calling Klitschko a scumbag just shows your outright hatred for him as a human being.I really dont see your rational behind it because he is one of the most generous persons ever to lace up the gloves.To call him names is just showing your ignorance as to who he really is. >:madQuote:
Originally Posted by The Shadow
You know what Klitfan? You are one guy in here that even as a fan, can keep an open mind and I respect that. That being said, you gotta be able to see that Vitali is as much to blame as anyone in this mess. Shadow is not the only one that's angered by this and has come out of character. I would like to think that you care more about the future of boxing rather than Your fav fighters. Fighters come and go and when your fav retires, you find someone new to love. You never know, a few years down the line another fighter you like might get shafted by the same trend your boy is setting now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
I agree that the situation is unfair for Peter, I thought Peter having to fight Toney after he had already beaten him was uncalled for.I really don't know what people want Vitali to do at this point, I am sure if any other fighter was in his position they would do the same, right?I don't think Vitali is trying to pull anything by coming back at this point, he just feels 100% finally.Strange things happen all the time in boxing, fighters getting shots they don't deserve and being ranked where they shouldn't be.I am glad Vitali is coming back and could care less who he fights first, but I know he is still the best or at least the second best heavyweight at this time so it really would have just been a matter of time before he regained the WBC title.People should be questioning the WBC if anything for giving him this status, don't blame Vitali for his position.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bx730NY
Agreed. I thought that it sucked ass that Peter had to fight Toney again...but the end result upped his status, IWO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Klitschkofan
I really like Peter. ;D
Sam Peter...not to be confused with liking Sam's peter. ;D :P :-X
It really annoys me too. I'm with Shadow and BX on this.
Vitali, if he does go after Maskaev and try to jump ahead of Peter is just as much to blame.
As for Big Duece and your morality lesson, your argument says as much about yourself as it does about Vitali or the WBC.
Money talks I guess :-\
Like I said...I don't really agree with Peter getting leap frogged...but if it were someone else coming back...Lewis or one of the other previous champs...circumstances would be the same...but there'd be a whoooooooooole lot less criticism around the board.Quote:
Originally Posted by bilbo
Toney is a good example...he just kept on getting title shot after title shot...& he hadn't done jack S*** to merit them. He beat Evander...wow.
Agreed. Right is right & wrong is wrong...but the WBC & HBO & the likes will want the big V back in the game so badly that it'll probably come off.Quote:
Originally Posted by bilbo
Missed that one...but morals & money generally don't go hand in hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by bilbo
Again...agreed. Vitali, IWO, was the most exciting & effective of the bunch in Lewis's wake.Quote:
Originally Posted by bilbo
:coolclick: good points.
**On second thought...that was a rather calm post for you, at this hour... ;D
lol I don't know what you mean I one of the mildest most easy going posters on this board ::**
:coolclick: returned
I gotta jovially & lovingly call a little BS on that statement. Heh heh heh.Quote:
Originally Posted by bilbo
Well, here's the thing:Quote:
Calling Klitschko a scumbag just shows your outright hatred for him as a human being.I really dont see your rational behind it because he is one of the most generous persons ever to lace up the gloves.To call him names is just showing your ignorance as to who he really is. >:mad
I don't hate anyone. That's a very strong term to use and requires a ton of emotional energy to muster. I respect Vitali's athletic/boxing abilities. Although he does look strange when boxing, he gets the job done on most occasions. I would think that someone as intelligent as him should be a bit above all of the trappings of the dark side of the sport; apparently, that isn't the case, as evidenced by this recent news about his comeback.
Although I like and respect the skills of James Toney as boxer, I don't have much use for him as an individual. He's a perfect example of an ignorant scumbag. That being said, I think it's appropriate to call not only the W.B.C. on this B.S., but to also call the individual that's benefiting from the B.S. I completely understand his motivation for coming back to boxing and think that it's a good thing for the division. However, his return could have come about in a laudable manner instead of being a bit overshadowed with all the controversy. It's an unfortunate situation for all parties concerned.
At this point, I really don't care what happens anymore. Being an idealist and trying to apply standards to such a corrupt and integrity devoid sport is moronic, and I'm totally at fault for that.
I guess the best thing to do is to hope for the best but expect the worst. ::** I think that will save me allot of wasted time obsessing about things that I can't control. It's also important for me to keep things in perspective and just sit back and watch a good fight without attempting to apply standards in a classical sense to a sport which doesn't seem to have any.
Once again, I don't hate either of the Klitschko brothers. But when I first read your initial post on this topic with the link, much of the stock I had for Vitali as an individual, i.e. character, plummeted faster than the value of Enron. Then again, that's just me. :(
its funny....someone states facts...and they get bashed
, just keep ignoring facts, and Sad click me till the cows come home lmao
It's all good, brother. Nuero-genesis is right around the corner...wait around a bit and everything will be O.K. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Big_Deuce
WBC starting to look biasd as fuck: - they hand pick their champions if they can, they rather big named fighter having a shot at the belt rather than someone who has worked hard..
JMM got the nod over soto coz of his name
Castillo twice failed to make weight, suspended, fights for the first time at 140 and is in an eliminator fight for the wbc belt o0
Peter beats toney for a shot at oleg, but coz of some contrevery the wbc think "oh lets fuck peter over coz hes a nobody and everyone knows who james tony is and if he wins he can beat oleg and there wil be a respected name holding our belt again" peter wins again and now vitali is getting his shot
fuck the WBC
Vitali is a gentlemen I dont know why people are angry about him.
If your favorite boxer got givena belt or a title shot when it wasnt deserved would you complain - I am sure not!
And about the politics thing, whats wrong with pointing out the obvious which is that boxing follows rules and honesty as a goal, but Ukranian politics is corrupt to the core - and that as well as the injury being gone are the reasons he is going back into boxing
Jesus I thought we wanted more exciting in the heavyweights