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How good was Hector "Macho" Camacho?
Just got through watching Camacho vs Pazienza on ESPN Classic the other night, and Camacho was 38-0 back then in 1990. I haven't seen much of Camacho in his prime, but he looked to be a good boxer, featherfisted but a good slick fighter. I know everyone hated him, but how good was he in his prime?
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I don't thing everyone hated him....he was a very slick and skilled guy.
Just lacked big one punch Ko power but won LOTS of fight.
He did it the way PBF is now..movement speed etc. This style isn't always the most popular as we are seeing now with PBF.
He always made an exciting fight and was one of the first to bring a degree of showmanship and wwe style hype to a fight.
WHAT TIME IS IT????
ITS MACHO TIME!!
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Just got through watching Camacho vs Pazienza on ESPN Classic the other night, and Camacho was 38-0 back then in 1990. I haven't seen much of Camacho in his prime, but he looked to be a good boxer, featherfisted but a good slick fighter. I know everyone hated him, but how good was he in his prime?
He was very slick and fast in his prime. After the rosario fight he became more cautious. But he had one hell of a chin.
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very good boxer imo. PRIME SRL definitely batters him though.
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I watched that same fight yesterday. Camacho was damn good. Tons of skill, flashy, good heart. I didn't like him much then, but I appreciate him now much more.
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The guy fought a lot of championship competition and fared well. I don't know why I always think of him as a joke.
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The guy fought a lot of championship competition and fared well. I don't know why I always think of him as a joke.
I always thought of him as a joke before as well. I think allot of it had to do with what he wore to ring and his press conferances and how like someone else said he broght the wwe style to boxer. I actually have a good friend of mine that trained in the same gym as camacho and he said camacho was all work in the gym man all that nonsense you seen on tv and shit isn't really him its just part of putting on a show for the fans.
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I watched that same fight yesterday. Camacho was damn good. Tons of skill, flashy, good heart. I didn't like him much then, but I appreciate him now much more.
my feelings as well..I guess the fact that we are still taking about him and his intros says something......
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Never followed Macho...don't know why...but he just really didn't do shit for me.
From what I saw...he was a goody...but...like I said...I didn't really follow him so it'd be hard for me to comment...don't even know why I did.
Oh yeah... :drunks: .
That about explains it. ;D
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Macho was a great fighter in his prime.. excellent footwork ! his fight with Paz was a great watch ! O0
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Macho was a great fighter in his prime.. excellent footwork ! his fight with Paz was a great watch ! O0
Hate to flip th esubject on ya right here & now...but have you seen the Jones jr vs Paz fight?
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That was great to watch if you want to see the definition of a wonderful fight and a great jab
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
That was great to watch if you want to see the definition of a wonderful fight and a great jab
You mean the Jones vs Paz fight? I tell you what...Paz earned his beating in that fight.
Jones owned him with ease. He kept taunting Jones throughout the 5 or 6 rounds that he lasted. I couldn't figure that out.
Every time he mugged or smiled at Roy...he ate a jab & then a hook & then a 3 or 4 punch combo. That was a pretty viscious beating, IWO. He just kept taking it & Roy just kept giving it. That was what I always loved about ole' Roy...he was always on point & once he started he was unstoppable.
Credit to Pazienza for making it to the sixth round but he was clearly out of his league. As usual...Roy just made it look like another day on the job. He always tended to do so...with everyone that he fought.
All good things come to an end.
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
That was great to watch if you want to see the definition of a wonderful fight and a great jab
You mean the Jones vs Paz fight? I tell you what...Paz earned his beating in that fight.
Jones owned him with ease. He kept taunting Jones throughout the 5 or 6 rounds that he lasted. I couldn't figure that out.
Every time he mugged or smiled at Roy...he ate a jab & then a hook & then a 3 or 4 punch combo. That was a pretty viscious beating, IWO. He just kept taking it & Roy just kept giving it. That was what I always loved about ole' Roy...he was always on point & once he started he was unstoppable.
Credit to Pazienza for making it to the sixth round but he was clearly out of his league. As usual...Roy just made it look like another day on the job. He always tended to do so...with everyone that he fought.
All good things come to an end.
All True but that was not Vinny Pazienza anywhere near his prime Paz was already 33 and fighting in a weight class he aged into .... Paz was a better fighter at lightweight and Jr welterweight.
Roy Jones on the other hand was lean in his prime and at his best fighting weight 168 and 26 years old. A huge mismatch as it should be !
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
That was great to watch if you want to see the definition of a wonderful fight and a great jab
You mean the Jones vs Paz fight? I tell you what...Paz earned his beating in that fight.
Jones owned him with ease. He kept taunting Jones throughout the 5 or 6 rounds that he lasted. I couldn't figure that out.
Every time he mugged or smiled at Roy...he ate a jab & then a hook & then a 3 or 4 punch combo. That was a pretty viscious beating, IWO. He just kept taking it & Roy just kept giving it. That was what I always loved about ole' Roy...he was always on point & once he started he was unstoppable.
Credit to Pazienza for making it to the sixth round but he was clearly out of his league. As usual...Roy just made it look like another day on the job. He always tended to do so...with everyone that he fought.
All good things come to an end.
All True but that was not Vinny Pazienza anywhere near his prime Paz was already 33 and fighting in a weight class he aged into .... Paz was a better fighter at lightweight and Jr welterweight.
Roy Jones on the other hand was lean in his prime and at his best fighting weight 168 and 26 years old. A huge mismatch as it should be !
True. Totally agree there...but it was still a hell of a showing on Jones's part & the defiance of Paz made it even better.
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
That was great to watch if you want to see the definition of a wonderful fight and a great jab
You mean the Jones vs Paz fight? I tell you what...Paz earned his beating in that fight.
Jones owned him with ease. He kept taunting Jones throughout the 5 or 6 rounds that he lasted. I couldn't figure that out.
Every time he mugged or smiled at Roy...he ate a jab & then a hook & then a 3 or 4 punch combo. That was a pretty viscious beating, IWO. He just kept taking it & Roy just kept giving it. That was what I always loved about ole' Roy...he was always on point & once he started he was unstoppable.
Credit to Pazienza for making it to the sixth round but he was clearly out of his league. As usual...Roy just made it look like another day on the job. He always tended to do so...with everyone that he fought.
All good things come to an end.
All True but that was not Vinny Pazienza anywhere near his prime Paz was already 33 and fighting in a weight class he aged into .... Paz was a better fighter at lightweight and Jr welterweight.
Roy Jones on the other hand was lean in his prime and at his best fighting weight 168 and 26 years old. A huge mismatch as it should be !
True. Totally agree there...but it was still a hell of a showing on Jones's part & the defiance of Paz made it even better.
Absolutely ! Jones’s star was shinning bright !!! I remember watching Roy Jones fight Thulane Malinga on HBO back in 93 , you talk about getting knocked the fuck out ! .. :o
I really liked Roy Jones JR at 160 -168 .. I wish he had stayed in that range longer ! O0
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Just got through watching Camacho vs Pazienza on ESPN Classic the other night, and Camacho was 38-0 back then in 1990. I haven't seen much of Camacho in his prime, but he looked to be a good boxer, featherfisted but a good slick fighter. I know everyone hated him, but how good was he in his prime?
The reason that fight was so good was that Vinny forced Hector to fight with his fast hands and non-stop punchin, but Hector answered Vinny back and then some, a really exciting fight, I've got the PPV telecast on VHS and hopefully the tape is still good so I can transfer it to DVD. If Hector would have left the streets alone he might have been an all-time p4p fighter.
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Just got through watching Camacho vs Pazienza on ESPN Classic the other night, and Camacho was 38-0 back then in 1990. I haven't seen much of Camacho in his prime, but he looked to be a good boxer, featherfisted but a good slick fighter. I know everyone hated him, but how good was he in his prime?
The reason that fight was so good was that Vinny forced Hector to fight with his fast hands and non-stop punchin, but Hector answered Vinny back and then some, a really exciting fight, I've got the PPV telecast on VHS and hopefully the tape is still good so I can transfer it to DVD. If Hector would have left the streets alone he might have been an all-time p4p fighter.
:coolclick: # 55 I agree.. Camacho was fun to watch in his prime.. I loved how Hector used his RT jab to slap the opponents defense down so he could shoot that str8 Left in there ! a thing of beauty ! didn’t care for all his bullshit, but the man had talent in that ring no doubt ! masterful ! O0
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Just got through watching Camacho vs Pazienza on ESPN Classic the other night, and Camacho was 38-0 back then in 1990. I haven't seen much of Camacho in his prime, but he looked to be a good boxer, featherfisted but a good slick fighter. I know everyone hated him, but how good was he in his prime?
The reason that fight was so good was that Vinny forced Hector to fight with his fast hands and non-stop punchin, but Hector answered Vinny back and then some, a really exciting fight, I've got the PPV telecast on VHS and hopefully the tape is still good so I can transfer it to DVD. If Hector would have left the streets alone he might have been an all-time p4p fighter.
:coolclick: # 55 I agree.. Camacho was fun to watch in his prime.. I loved how Hector used his RT jab to slap the opponents defense down so he could shoot that str8 Left in there ! a thing of beauty ! didn’t care for all his bullshit, but the man had talent in that ring no doubt ! masterful ! O0
CC :coolclick: back....He threw his right jab at an odd angle, almost like a trip hammer, I have a fight on BETA against Rafael Williams who was carved outta rock, and who had just lost a 10 decision lose to Livingstone Bramble, and Camacho practically played with Williams and stopped him in 7 rds. Camacho was so fast back then, that he was hitting Williams with blinding combinations and then would be standing behind him a half a second later...Williams must have thought that there were 3 of Camacho's in the ring with him. There was even talk of him moving up to fight Pryor.
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Just got through watching Camacho vs Pazienza on ESPN Classic the other night, and Camacho was 38-0 back then in 1990. I haven't seen much of Camacho in his prime, but he looked to be a good boxer, featherfisted but a good slick fighter. I know everyone hated him, but how good was he in his prime?
The reason that fight was so good was that Vinny forced Hector to fight with his fast hands and non-stop punchin, but Hector answered Vinny back and then some, a really exciting fight, I've got the PPV telecast on VHS and hopefully the tape is still good so I can transfer it to DVD. If Hector would have left the streets alone he might have been an all-time p4p fighter.
:coolclick: # 55 I agree.. Camacho was fun to watch in his prime.. I loved how Hector used his RT jab to slap the opponents defense down so he could shoot that str8 Left in there ! a thing of beauty ! didn’t care for all his bullshit, but the man had talent in that ring no doubt ! masterful ! O0
CC :coolclick: back....He threw his right jab at an odd angle, almost like a trip hammer, I have a fight on BETA against Rafael Williams who was carved outta rock, and who had just lost a 10 decision lose to Livingstone Bramble, and Camacho practically played with Williams and stopped him in 7 rds. Camacho was so fast back then, that he was hitting Williams with blinding combinations and then would be standing behind him a half a second later...
Williams must have thought that there were 3 of Camacho's in the ring with him. There was even talk of him moving up to fight Pryor.
LMFAO ! no kidding ! a fucking Matrix moment ;) !
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Just got through watching Camacho vs Pazienza on ESPN Classic the other night, and Camacho was 38-0 back then in 1990. I haven't seen much of Camacho in his prime, but he looked to be a good boxer, featherfisted but a good slick fighter. I know everyone hated him, but how good was he in his prime?
The reason that fight was so good was that Vinny forced Hector to fight with his fast hands and non-stop punchin, but Hector answered Vinny back and then some, a really exciting fight, I've got the PPV telecast on VHS and hopefully the tape is still good so I can transfer it to DVD. If Hector would have left the streets alone he might have been an all-time p4p fighter.
:coolclick: # 55 I agree.. Camacho was fun to watch in his prime.. I loved how Hector used his RT jab to slap the opponents defense down so he could shoot that str8 Left in there ! a thing of beauty ! didn’t care for all his bullshit, but the man had talent in that ring no doubt ! masterful ! O0
CC :coolclick: back....He threw his right jab at an odd angle, almost like a trip hammer, I have a fight on BETA against Rafael Williams who was carved outta rock, and who had just lost a 10 decision lose to Livingstone Bramble, and Camacho practically played with Williams and stopped him in 7 rds. Camacho was so fast back then, that he was hitting Williams with blinding combinations and then would be standing behind him a half a second later...
Williams must have thought that there were 3 of Camacho's in the ring with him. There was even talk of him moving up to fight Pryor.
LMFAO ! no kidding ! a F****** Matrix moment ;) !
Pryor would have destroyed "Macho"..I never thought Macho was great..good..not great....
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
That was great to watch if you want to see the definition of a wonderful fight and a great jab
You mean the Jones vs Paz fight? I tell you what...Paz earned his beating in that fight.
Jones owned him with ease. He kept taunting Jones throughout the 5 or 6 rounds that he lasted. I couldn't figure that out.
Every time he mugged or smiled at Roy...he ate a jab & then a hook & then a 3 or 4 punch combo. That was a pretty viscious beating, IWO. He just kept taking it & Roy just kept giving it. That was what I always loved about ole' Roy...he was always on point & once he started he was unstoppable.
Credit to Pazienza for making it to the sixth round but he was clearly out of his league. As usual...Roy just made it look like another day on the job. He always tended to do so...with everyone that he fought.
All good things come to an end.
All True but that was not Vinny Pazienza anywhere near his prime Paz was already 33 and fighting in a weight class he aged into .... Paz was a better fighter at lightweight and Jr welterweight.
Roy Jones on the other hand was lean in his prime and at his best fighting weight 168 and 26 years old. A huge mismatch as it should be !
True. Totally agree there...but it was still a hell of a showing on Jones's part & the defiance of Paz made it even better.
Absolutely ! Jones’s star was shinning bright !!! I remember watching Roy Jones fight Thulane Malinga on HBO back in 93 , you talk about getting knocked the F*** out ! .. :o
I really liked Roy Jones JR at 160 -168 .. I wish he had stayed in that range longer ! O0
Love watching my DVD's of Jones at 168.
Speaking of getting knocked the F out what about the bodyshot on Hill OUCH ;D
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
That was great to watch if you want to see the definition of a wonderful fight and a great jab
You mean the Jones vs Paz fight? I tell you what...Paz earned his beating in that fight.
Jones owned him with ease. He kept taunting Jones throughout the 5 or 6 rounds that he lasted. I couldn't figure that out.
Every time he mugged or smiled at Roy...he ate a jab & then a hook & then a 3 or 4 punch combo. That was a pretty viscious beating, IWO. He just kept taking it & Roy just kept giving it. That was what I always loved about ole' Roy...he was always on point & once he started he was unstoppable.
Credit to Pazienza for making it to the sixth round but he was clearly out of his league. As usual...Roy just made it look like another day on the job. He always tended to do so...with everyone that he fought.
All good things come to an end.
All True but that was not Vinny Pazienza anywhere near his prime Paz was already 33 and fighting in a weight class he aged into .... Paz was a better fighter at lightweight and Jr welterweight.
Roy Jones on the other hand was lean in his prime and at his best fighting weight 168 and 26 years old. A huge mismatch as it should be !
True. Totally agree there...but it was still a hell of a showing on Jones's part & the defiance of Paz made it even better.
Absolutely ! Jones’s star was shinning bright !!! I remember watching Roy Jones fight Thulane Malinga on HBO back in 93 , you talk about getting knocked the F*** out ! .. :o
I really liked Roy Jones JR at 160 -168 .. I wish he had stayed in that range longer ! O0
Love watching my DVD's of Jones at 168.
Speaking of getting knocked the F out what about the bodyshot on Hill OUCH ;D
that was a monster shot!!!
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
That was great to watch if you want to see the definition of a wonderful fight and a great jab
You mean the Jones vs Paz fight? I tell you what...Paz earned his beating in that fight.
Jones owned him with ease. He kept taunting Jones throughout the 5 or 6 rounds that he lasted. I couldn't figure that out.
Every time he mugged or smiled at Roy...he ate a jab & then a hook & then a 3 or 4 punch combo. That was a pretty viscious beating, IWO. He just kept taking it & Roy just kept giving it. That was what I always loved about ole' Roy...he was always on point & once he started he was unstoppable.
Credit to Pazienza for making it to the sixth round but he was clearly out of his league. As usual...Roy just made it look like another day on the job. He always tended to do so...with everyone that he fought.
All good things come to an end.
All True but that was not Vinny Pazienza anywhere near his prime Paz was already 33 and fighting in a weight class he aged into .... Paz was a better fighter at lightweight and Jr welterweight.
Roy Jones on the other hand was lean in his prime and at his best fighting weight 168 and 26 years old. A huge mismatch as it should be !
True. Totally agree there...but it was still a hell of a showing on Jones's part & the defiance of Paz made it even better.
Absolutely ! Jones’s star was shinning bright !!! I remember watching Roy Jones fight Thulane Malinga on HBO back in 93 , you talk about getting knocked the F*** out ! .. :o
I really liked Roy Jones JR at 160 -168 .. I wish he had stayed in that range longer ! O0
Love watching my DVD's of Jones at 168.
Speaking of getting knocked the F out what about the bodyshot on Hill OUCH ;D
that was a monster shot!!!
Best bodyshot knock out ive seen.
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Hector Camacho went through a gradual transformation throughout his career, which went something like this:
exciting, young prospect with blinding speed and not afraid to mix it up ---------------> good boxer with great hand speed, but more hesitant to mix it up -------------------> good boxer with exasperating habit of running from danger in his biggest fights, more interested in his ring entrances and ridiculous costumes -------------------> "has-been" clown.
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Didn't Camacho fight JCC? Didn't he lose that one?
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Didn't Camacho fight JCC? Didn't he lose that one?
Yes, and yes.
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Didn't Camacho fight JCC? Didn't he lose that one?
Yes, and yes.
Yep, I thought so. I've seen his second fight with Duran, Duran's last fight in like 01, when Duran was 50, but didn't they fight a few years before that. Was their first fight any good?
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Didn't Camacho fight JCC? Didn't he lose that one?
Yes, and yes.
Yep, I thought so. I've seen his second fight with Duran, Duran's last fight in like 01, when Duran was 50, but didn't they fight a few years before that. Was their first fight any good?
No wait.... you asked if Camacho had fought JCC, which I believe he did (and lost). He did fight Duran also, but only when Duran was an old man. He would've NEVER dared face someone like Duran before then.
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Didn't Camacho fight JCC? Didn't he lose that one?
Yes, and yes.
Yep, I thought so. I've seen his second fight with Duran, Duran's last fight in like 01, when Duran was 50, but didn't they fight a few years before that. Was their first fight any good?
No wait.... you asked if Camacho had fought JCC, which I believe he did (and lost). He did fight Duran also, but only when Duran was an old man. He would've NEVER dared face someone like Duran before then.
Oh I know man. I diidn't mean to confuse you. I know he fought Duran like in 99 and then 01 when Duran was 50 fukin years old. I also understand that JCC beat his butt when they were close to their primes. I also understand that both SRL and Duran would have knocked Camacho the hell out in their primes.
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Didn't Camacho fight JCC? Didn't he lose that one?
Yes, and yes.
Yep, I thought so. I've seen his second fight with Duran, Duran's last fight in like 01, when Duran was 50, but didn't they fight a few years before that. Was their first fight any good?
No wait.... you asked if Camacho had fought JCC, which I believe he did (and lost). He did fight Duran also, but only when Duran was an old man. He would've NEVER dared face someone like Duran before then.
Oh I know man. I diidn't mean to confuse you. I know he fought Duran like in 99 and then 01 when Duran was 50 fukin years old. I also understand that JCC beat his butt when they were close to their primes. I also understand that both SRL and Duran would have knocked Camacho the hell out in their primes.
LOL.... that's ok bro. I just wanted to make sure I had read it right. But yeah... both SRL and Duran would've made mincemeat out of Camacho in their primes. I liked Camacho when he first came out as an exciting prospect. It wasn't too long before I started DISliking the guy and his style, tho.
