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REID SNUBS FROCH OFFER
Former WBC world super middleweight champion Robin Reid has failed to respond to an offer to fight Carl Froch, despite apparently stating on Channel M recently that he coveted the Nottingham fighter's British title.
Reid - who was stopped in eight rounds by American Jeff Lacy last time out - missed the Lonsdale on his way to world honours, but Froch has heard that the Runcorn fighter informed the Manchester station that he still has an ambition to lift the prestigious belt.
The word is that he also claimed he would defeat Froch in emphatic fashion. He has since been given the opportunity to prove it. Read more...
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wtf is froch doing still defending his longsdale belt, let alone calling out reid!
he claims he wnats to fight people like calzaghe and kessler, yet he wants to fight robin fucking reid and keep on defending his longsdale, wtf? go after the european belt, call out people who are ranked highly up, hell Tsypko (guy who lacy fought last) would make for a good fight,
Froch thinks he is going to get a world title shot anytime soon by fighting Reid? does froch actualy want to fight any of the champs? he maybe making noise to look like he wants a shot, but secretly waiting and hoping cazalghe retires or moves up and kessler moves up to LHW?
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wtf is froch doing still defending his longsdale belt, let alone calling out reid!
he claims he wnats to fight people like calzaghe and kessler, yet he wants to fight robin F****** reid and keep on defending his longsdale, wtf? go after the european belt, call out people who are ranked highly up, hell Tsypko (guy who lacy fought last) would make for a good fight,
Froch thinks he is going to get a world title shot anytime soon by fighting Reid? does froch actualy want to fight any of the champs? he maybe making noise to look like he wants a shot, but secretly waiting and hoping cazalghe retires or moves up and kessler moves up to LHW?
A win over Reid would actualy be advantageous to Froch, he is clutching at straws IMO though....he's too old with too little fights, he knows he needs to step it up....
But against who? Noone is interested...
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Originally Posted by Preme
wtf is froch doing still defending his longsdale belt, let alone calling out reid!
he claims he wnats to fight people like calzaghe and kessler, yet he wants to fight robin F****** reid and keep on defending his longsdale, wtf? go after the european belt, call out people who are ranked highly up, hell Tsypko (guy who lacy fought last) would make for a good fight,
Froch thinks he is going to get a world title shot anytime soon by fighting Reid? does froch actualy want to fight any of the champs? he maybe making noise to look like he wants a shot, but secretly waiting and hoping cazalghe retires or moves up and kessler moves up to LHW?
A win over Reid would actualy be advantageous to Froch, he is clutching at straws IMO though....he's too old with too little fights, he knows he needs to step it up....
But against who? Noone is interested...
Mundin? soliman? even markus byuer if he could? chase the european belt? call Tsypko out? all these would be a big + imo for him should he win, and would defo move him very close to a mandetory with one of the champs
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wtf is froch doing still defending his longsdale belt, let alone calling out reid!
he claims he wnats to fight people like calzaghe and kessler, yet he wants to fight robin F****** reid and keep on defending his longsdale, wtf? go after the european belt, call out people who are ranked highly up, hell Tsypko (guy who lacy fought last) would make for a good fight,
Froch thinks he is going to get a world title shot anytime soon by fighting Reid? does froch actualy want to fight any of the champs? he maybe making noise to look like he wants a shot, but secretly waiting and hoping cazalghe retires or moves up and kessler moves up to LHW?
A win over Reid would actualy be advantageous to Froch, he is clutching at straws IMO though....he's too old with too little fights, he knows he needs to step it up....
But against who? Noone is interested...
Mundin? soliman? even markus byuer if he could? chase the european belt? call Tsypko out? all these would be a big + imo for him should he win, and would defo move him very close to a mandetory with one of the champs
At SMW Reid would be a decent fight. It would mean he could beat somebody more rusty than most and has been in the ring with other champs...a very sensible fight...
I dont see Froch stepping it up and being very much. Just my opinion.
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Originally Posted by miles
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wtf is froch doing still defending his longsdale belt, let alone calling out reid!
he claims he wnats to fight people like calzaghe and kessler, yet he wants to fight robin F****** reid and keep on defending his longsdale, wtf? go after the european belt, call out people who are ranked highly up, hell Tsypko (guy who lacy fought last) would make for a good fight,
Froch thinks he is going to get a world title shot anytime soon by fighting Reid? does froch actualy want to fight any of the champs? he maybe making noise to look like he wants a shot, but secretly waiting and hoping cazalghe retires or moves up and kessler moves up to LHW?
A win over Reid would actualy be advantageous to Froch, he is clutching at straws IMO though....he's too old with too little fights, he knows he needs to step it up....
But against who? Noone is interested...
Mundin? soliman? even markus byuer if he could? chase the european belt? call Tsypko out? all these would be a big + imo for him should he win, and would defo move him very close to a mandetory with one of the champs
At SMW Reid would be a decent fight. It would mean he could beat somebody more rusty than most and has been in the ring with other champs...a very sensible fight...
I dont see Froch stepping it up and being very much. Just my opinion.
i don't think he could do a great deal at world level either, but when hes talking about calzaghe and kessler, claiming they don't wanan fight him etc, its stupid imo talking about fighting robin reid at this point of both their careers
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wtf is froch doing still defending his longsdale belt, let alone calling out reid!
he claims he wnats to fight people like calzaghe and kessler, yet he wants to fight robin F****** reid and keep on defending his longsdale, wtf? go after the european belt, call out people who are ranked highly up, hell Tsypko (guy who lacy fought last) would make for a good fight,
Froch thinks he is going to get a world title shot anytime soon by fighting Reid? does froch actualy want to fight any of the champs? he maybe making noise to look like he wants a shot, but secretly waiting and hoping cazalghe retires or moves up and kessler moves up to LHW?
A win over Reid would actualy be advantageous to Froch, he is clutching at straws IMO though....he's too old with too little fights, he knows he needs to step it up....
But against who? Noone is interested...
Mundin? soliman? even markus byuer if he could? chase the european belt? call Tsypko out? all these would be a big + imo for him should he win, and would defo move him very close to a mandetory with one of the champs
At SMW Reid would be a decent fight. It would mean he could beat somebody more rusty than most and has been in the ring with other champs...a very sensible fight...
I dont see Froch stepping it up and being very much. Just my opinion.
i don't think he could do a great deal at world level either, but when hes talking about calzaghe and kessler, claiming they don't wanan fight him etc, its stupid imo talking about fighting robin reid at this point of both their careers
Froch is full of shite. Robin Reid is as far as he can go at this point...Froch is on the level of Manfredo IMO. Nothing much at all.
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wtf is froch doing still defending his longsdale belt, let alone calling out reid!
he claims he wnats to fight people like calzaghe and kessler, yet he wants to fight robin F****** reid and keep on defending his longsdale, wtf? go after the european belt, call out people who are ranked highly up, hell Tsypko (guy who lacy fought last) would make for a good fight,
Froch thinks he is going to get a world title shot anytime soon by fighting Reid? does froch actualy want to fight any of the champs? he maybe making noise to look like he wants a shot, but secretly waiting and hoping cazalghe retires or moves up and kessler moves up to LHW?
A win over Reid would actualy be advantageous to Froch, he is clutching at straws IMO though....he's too old with too little fights, he knows he needs to step it up....
But against who? Noone is interested...
Mundin? soliman? even markus byuer if he could? chase the european belt? call Tsypko out? all these would be a big + imo for him should he win, and would defo move him very close to a mandetory with one of the champs
At SMW Reid would be a decent fight. It would mean he could beat somebody more rusty than most and has been in the ring with other champs...a very sensible fight...
I dont see Froch stepping it up and being very much. Just my opinion.
i don't think he could do a great deal at world level either, but when hes talking about calzaghe and kessler, claiming they don't wanan fight him etc, its stupid imo talking about fighting robin reid at this point of both their careers
Froch is full of shite. Robin Reid is as far as he can go at this point...Froch is on the level of Manfredo IMO. Nothing much at all.
i think he could pick up a european belt at SMW tbh
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I'm actually a huge Carl Froch fan. I'd like to see him get a big fight but at the moment he seems to be busy clearing out the domestic scene.
Reid wouldn't be that bad a fight for him. It's still a great domestic fight even if Reid's best days are behind him
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wtf is froch doing still defending his longsdale belt, let alone calling out reid!
he claims he wnats to fight people like calzaghe and kessler, yet he wants to fight robin F****** reid and keep on defending his longsdale, wtf? go after the european belt, call out people who are ranked highly up, hell Tsypko (guy who lacy fought last) would make for a good fight,
Froch thinks he is going to get a world title shot anytime soon by fighting Reid? does froch actualy want to fight any of the champs? he maybe making noise to look like he wants a shot, but secretly waiting and hoping cazalghe retires or moves up and kessler moves up to LHW?
A win over Reid would actualy be advantageous to Froch, he is clutching at straws IMO though....he's too old with too little fights, he knows he needs to step it up....
But against who? Noone is interested...
Mundin? soliman? even markus byuer if he could? chase the european belt? call Tsypko out? all these would be a big + imo for him should he win, and would defo move him very close to a mandetory with one of the champs
At SMW Reid would be a decent fight. It would mean he could beat somebody more rusty than most and has been in the ring with other champs...a very sensible fight...
I dont see Froch stepping it up and being very much. Just my opinion.
i don't think he could do a great deal at world level either, but when hes talking about calzaghe and kessler, claiming they don't wanan fight him etc, its stupid imo talking about fighting robin reid at this point of both their careers
Froch is full of shite. Robin Reid is as far as he can go at this point...Froch is on the level of Manfredo IMO. Nothing much at all.
i think he could pick up a european belt at SMW tbh
possibly, but those are not the areas im concerned with
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wtf is froch doing still defending his longsdale belt, let alone calling out reid!
he claims he wnats to fight people like calzaghe and kessler, yet he wants to fight robin F****** reid and keep on defending his longsdale, wtf? go after the european belt, call out people who are ranked highly up, hell Tsypko (guy who lacy fought last) would make for a good fight,
Froch thinks he is going to get a world title shot anytime soon by fighting Reid? does froch actualy want to fight any of the champs? he maybe making noise to look like he wants a shot, but secretly waiting and hoping cazalghe retires or moves up and kessler moves up to LHW?
A win over Reid would actualy be advantageous to Froch, he is clutching at straws IMO though....he's too old with too little fights, he knows he needs to step it up....
But against who? Noone is interested...
Mundin? soliman? even markus byuer if he could? chase the european belt? call Tsypko out? all these would be a big + imo for him should he win, and would defo move him very close to a mandetory with one of the champs
At SMW Reid would be a decent fight. It would mean he could beat somebody more rusty than most and has been in the ring with other champs...a very sensible fight...
I dont see Froch stepping it up and being very much. Just my opinion.
i don't think he could do a great deal at world level either, but when hes talking about calzaghe and kessler, claiming they don't wanan fight him etc, its stupid imo talking about fighting robin reid at this point of both their careers
Froch is full of shite. Robin Reid is as far as he can go at this point...Froch is on the level of Manfredo IMO. Nothing much at all.
well Calzaghe may still fight him then.. If he keeps calling him out Im sure he could be another title defence and the big superfight everyone been waiting for JOe to announce ::**
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Angel Vazquez. That's the muthafucka. Took me awhile to remember his name. But that exactly who Froch reminds me of. I'm not sure if you guys are even familiar with Vazquez. He was a Featherweight/Junior Lightweight. Like Froch he started to make noise at almost 30 years old. He had a nice pretty undefeated record. If anybody could knock out Nassem Hamed with one shot, he was the one. Well that's what they said anyway. What happened? He got exposed by Victor Polo in a title eliminator. He was in so over his head it was shocking. He tried to make a comeback on ESPN's FNF but quit in a fight against a club fighter named I think Evan Valle after 3 or 4 rounds. He never fought again. I see Froch ending up the same way. He has done nothing to justify the over hype he's getting. Ya'll can say I'm bad mouthing him if you want, but those are solid facts.
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Angel Vazquez. That's the muthafucka. Took me awhile to remember his name. But that exactly who Froch reminds me of. I'm not sure if you guys are even familiar with Vazquez. He was a Featherweight/Junior Lightweight. Like Froch he started to make noise at almost 30 years old. He had a nice pretty undefeated record. If anybody could knock out Nassem Hamed with one shot, he was the one. Well that's what they said anyway. What happened? He got exposed by Victor Polo in a title eliminator. He was in so over his head it was shocking. He tried to make a comeback on ESPN's FNF but quit in a fight against a club fighter named I think Evan Valle after 3 or 4 rounds. He never fought again. I see Froch ending up the same way. He has done nothing to justify the over hype he's getting. Ya'll can say I'm bad mouthing him if you want, but those are solid facts.
a lot of brits agree with you on froch, i don't think there are many in the SMw who would embarres froch right now 'coz apart from a select few SMw is fairly week; but i dont see froch taking a world title unless people move up, retire or this guy fighting for the IBF is crap
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Angel Vazquez. That's the muthafucka. Took me awhile to remember his name. But that exactly who Froch reminds me of. I'm not sure if you guys are even familiar with Vazquez. He was a Featherweight/Junior Lightweight. Like Froch he started to make noise at almost 30 years old. He had a nice pretty undefeated record. If anybody could knock out Nassem Hamed with one shot, he was the one. Well that's what they said anyway. What happened? He got exposed by Victor Polo in a title eliminator. He was in so over his head it was shocking. He tried to make a comeback on ESPN's FNF but quit in a fight against a club fighter named I think Evan Valle after 3 or 4 rounds. He never fought again. I see Froch ending up the same way. He has done nothing to justify the over hype he's getting. Ya'll can say I'm bad mouthing him if you want, but those are solid facts.
a lot of brits agree with you on froch, i don't think there are many in the SMw who would embarres froch right now 'coz apart from a select few SMw is fairly week; but i dont see froch taking a world title unless people move up, retire or this guy fighting for the IBF is crap
You know what Preme? You use to post a lot of nonsense...ah who am I kidding? You still do. But I'm going to give your credit. Your not a mind-less groupie like some of these other British cats. Who wouldn't have a bad thing to say about Hatton and Calzaghe if they got knocked out by Paul Malignaggi and Scott Pemberton. I noticed you try and call it like it is (try, I said). You criticize the local favorites when they deserve it. And offer strong opinions. Good for you. Violent D just might pull you off his remedial list if you continue the good work
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Angel Vazquez. That's the muthafucka. Took me awhile to remember his name. But that exactly who Froch reminds me of. I'm not sure if you guys are even familiar with Vazquez. He was a Featherweight/Junior Lightweight. Like Froch he started to make noise at almost 30 years old. He had a nice pretty undefeated record. If anybody could knock out Nassem Hamed with one shot, he was the one. Well that's what they said anyway. What happened? He got exposed by Victor Polo in a title eliminator. He was in so over his head it was shocking. He tried to make a comeback on ESPN's FNF but quit in a fight against a club fighter named I think Evan Valle after 3 or 4 rounds. He never fought again. I see Froch ending up the same way. He has done nothing to justify the over hype he's getting. Ya'll can say I'm bad mouthing him if you want, but those are solid facts.
a lot of brits agree with you on froch, i don't think there are many in the SMw who would embarres froch right now 'coz apart from a select few SMw is fairly week; but i dont see froch taking a world title unless people move up, retire or this guy fighting for the IBF is crap
You know what Preme? You use to post a lot of nonsense...ah who am I kidding? You still do. But I'm going to give your credit. Your not a mind-less groupie like some of these other British cats. Who wouldn't have a bad thing to say about Hatton and Calzaghe if they got knocked out by Paul Malignaggi and Scott Pemberton. I noticed you try and call it like it is (try, I said). You criticize the local favorites when they deserve it. And offer strong opinions. Good for you. Violent D just might pull you off his remedial list if you continue the good work
a tear came to my eye when i read that, is my gold star in the mail;D?
All jokes aside, i know im a big calzaghe fan and a good chance alot of my posts are biasd towards him, but i can only post what i believe;)
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Angel Vazquez. That's the muthafucka. Took me awhile to remember his name. But that exactly who Froch reminds me of. I'm not sure if you guys are even familiar with Vazquez. He was a Featherweight/Junior Lightweight. Like Froch he started to make noise at almost 30 years old. He had a nice pretty undefeated record. If anybody could knock out Nassem Hamed with one shot, he was the one. Well that's what they said anyway. What happened? He got exposed by Victor Polo in a title eliminator. He was in so over his head it was shocking. He tried to make a comeback on ESPN's FNF but quit in a fight against a club fighter named I think Evan Valle after 3 or 4 rounds. He never fought again. I see Froch ending up the same way. He has done nothing to justify the over hype he's getting. Ya'll can say I'm bad mouthing him if you want, but those are solid facts.
Sorry your going to have to repost that and pick out the facts in bold because I cant see any. Im sure this makes me a Froch groupie and all that etc etc but Im just calling it like it is. You waffle on a bit and then proclaim it (whatever IT was) to be fact.
As for the fight Froch proved with Magee that he's too much for domestic competition a bit past their sale by date. Win the European title or shut up.
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Angel Vazquez. That's the muthafucka. Took me awhile to remember his name. But that exactly who Froch reminds me of. I'm not sure if you guys are even familiar with Vazquez. He was a Featherweight/Junior Lightweight. Like Froch he started to make noise at almost 30 years old. He had a nice pretty undefeated record. If anybody could knock out Nassem Hamed with one shot, he was the one. Well that's what they said anyway. What happened? He got exposed by Victor Polo in a title eliminator. He was in so over his head it was shocking. He tried to make a comeback on ESPN's FNF but quit in a fight against a club fighter named I think Evan Valle after 3 or 4 rounds. He never fought again. I see Froch ending up the same way. He has done nothing to justify the over hype he's getting. Ya'll can say I'm bad mouthing him if you want, but those are solid facts.
Sorry your going to have to repost that and pick out the facts in bold because I cant see any. Im sure this makes me a Froch groupie and all that etc etc but Im just calling it like it is. You waffle on a bit and then proclaim it (whatever IT was) to be fact.
As for the fight Froch proved with Magee that he's too much for domestic competition a bit past their sale by date. Win the European title or shut up.
Don't trip. I never did expect you to understand. This was meant only for the big boys who understand and know Boxing. So how about you sit back down. Okay, buddy?
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But I want to be one of the big boys that understands boxing. So please, humour me, what facts are you talking about? You did say 'those' so I asume there are more than one, correct?
In your own time.
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I actually think that if anything Carl Froch is under-rated. Aside from being outboxed by someone with a higer workrate I can't see Froch being beat at 168 lb.
His chin is as solid as anyone's, and he has more skill than Lacy.
Froch reminds me a lot of Chris Eubank. His fighting style is different but like Eubank he has a fantastic chin, is strong and has stamina, but relies on counter punching opportunites, especially in luring fighters in and hitting them with his monster uppercuts.
Unfortunately, like Eubank he isn't so effective going forward and doesn't like to fight at pace, stylistically a fight with Calzaghe would be tough for him because Joe would outwork him and unless he got careless wouldn't give him the counter opportunites that he needs.
But no way in hell does Joe or anybody at 168 lb destroy Froch. Outwork and outbox him yes, but I can't see anybody knocking him out.
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I dont think Froch is as big a puncher as advertised either, dont see him taking out anyone top drawer.
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But I want to be one of the big boys that understands boxing.
:hubbahubba: :-X
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Reid should snub Froch's offer...he's setting himself up to become a stepping stone fighter...he takes a chance against Froch...then he's practically already headed in that direction.
Time to head back to porn. ;D
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But I want to be one of the big boys that understands boxing. So please, humour me, what facts are you talking about? You did say 'those' so I asume there are more than one, correct?
In your own time.
He's almost 30. He's done nothing to justify his hype. And he too will be exposed. I can't believe I had to repeat myself. At this rate you'll never leave your toddler.....hell infant level your in. Looks like some Special Ed classes might be in order for you
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Reid should snub Froch's offer...he's setting himself up to become a stepping stone fighter...he takes a chance against Froch...then he's practically already headed in that direction.
Time to head back to porn. ;D
Reid should of called it a day after the lacy fight... Reid was a good boxer, when his head was in it
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He's almost 30.
Nothing you said after that is worth responding to, just stick to the facts in future ;)
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Steiglitz is fighting for the IBF title in March...
Kessler & Andrade are fighting March...
Calzaghe is fighting Manfredo...
Devy Gogoya (EBU champ) has fought 3 times in 6 months and wants a breather...
There is a March date pre-aranged with Sky / Venue and everyone else is busy.
I think Robin Reid is a nice domestic touch, especially as HE called Carl out.
He'll pick up a nice cheque & stay busy until summer before deciding if he wants the _________ fight ;D
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Steiglitz is fighting for the IBF title in March...
Kessler & Andrade are fighting March...
Calzaghe is fighting Manfredo...
Devy Gogoya (EBU champ) has fought 3 times in 6 months and wants a breather...
There is a March date pre-aranged with Sky / Venue and everyone else is busy.
I think Robin Reid is a nice domestic touch, especially as HE called Carl out.
He'll pick up a nice cheque & stay busy until summer before deciding if he wants the _________ fight ;D
:coolclick: for a well reasoned post
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Cheers Bilbo.
At the end of the day, you can only fight the following:
A) those available to fight
B) those willing to fight you
I know some rate Carl Froch...and some don't.
But one thing that i must say, is he's not anyone's cup of tea to face in the ring.
I'm not about to drivel on about his power etc etc - but what i mean is, even if they do beat him, they would certainly know they have been in a fight and would not get away with a 'pretty performance' over someone like Froch.
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I agree, I actually really like Carl Froch. I used to hate him with a passion, but his last few fights have won me over.
I like the way he hangs out his chin, just showing contempt for his opponents ability to hurt him.
Then when they do take the bait and try and get him he poleaxes them with one of his uppercuts.
A Cobra indeed, I can't see whats not to like about him. He's exciting to watch.
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I agree, I actually really like Carl Froch. I used to hate him with a passion, but his last few fights have won me over.
I like the way he hangs out his chin, just showing contempt for his opponents ability to hurt him.
Then when they do take the bait and try and get him he poleaxes them with one of his uppercuts.
A Cobra indeed, I can't see whats not to like about him. He's exciting to watch.
I just have a lot more respect for a guy like Bute who goes about his business quietly and delivers convincingly. I'd much rather be without the kind of mouth-diarhea Froch usually dishes up with. Simply can't stand it.
It really bothers me the extra attention Froch seems to be getting from all his BS talk, despite his accomplishments being no better and less promissing than the much younger Bute.
To some extend i can understand why ppl find Froch's style exciting. He fights like a bullfighter and as long as his opposition shows no more skill or ring-intelligence than the average bull it may work for him. I just can't imagine him getting away with it against a higher level of opposition.
I'd hate to see his annoying self-promotion rewarded with title-shots ahead of more deserving but less vocal fighters.
On the other hand i really wanna see him lose ASAP.
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Carl Froch is the man to beat at 168 imo. He is a real threat and i feel his next 3 fights are going to show this even more! I hope you saw him drop his last 2 guys? They were some pretty good ko's. I think the next move Carl needs to take is to fight a big name at 168 and in 2-3 fights time he will get a shot. He deserves it imo and i can only see Carl going forward in his carrer. IMO if Carl loses a fight soon he will face a lot of problems but i think he is going to succed at 168!
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Re: REID SNUBS FROCH OFFER
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Carl Froch is the man to beat at 168 imo. He is a real threat and i feel his next 3 fights are going to show this even more! I hope you saw him drop his last 2 guys? They were some pretty good ko's. I think the next move Carl needs to take is to fight a big name at 168 and in 2-3 fights time he will get a shot. He deserves it imo and i can only see Carl going forward in his carrer. IMO if Carl loses a fight soon he will face a lot of problems but i think he is going to succed at 168!
He holds no titles. He's beaten nobody of note. His mouth gets noticed more than his skills. Yet he's the man to beat at 168? Sure thing, kid. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Carl Froch is the man to beat at 168 imo. He is a real threat and i feel his next 3 fights are going to show this even more! I hope you saw him drop his last 2 guys? They were some pretty good ko's. I think the next move Carl needs to take is to fight a big name at 168 and in 2-3 fights time he will get a shot. He deserves it imo and i can only see Carl going forward in his carrer. IMO if Carl loses a fight soon he will face a lot of problems but i think he is going to succed at 168!
He holds no titles. He's beaten nobody of note. His mouth gets noticed more than his skills. Yet he's the man to beat at 168? Sure thing, kid. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
Mmmm.
Who has Miguel Cotto beaten?
How many 'Champions' has he faced?
It's easy to dig around the likes of columbia and argentina and dig up a bunch of 16-0 fighters - then declare how Cotto has stopped them.
BUT
It's plain to see he is a top 10 fighter, it's all about what we see with our own eyes that leads us to our conclusions...
...Not padded records.
And for the record, the British domestic scene is very very tough - and Froch has cleaned up and won the Lonsdale belt outright (a belt of prestige) - not like these phony WBU, WBO & IBF belts (zab judah anyone?)
He will fight for the WBC soon, mark my words.
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Originally Posted by CityOfGod
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Carl Froch is the man to beat at 168 imo. He is a real threat and i feel his next 3 fights are going to show this even more! I hope you saw him drop his last 2 guys? They were some pretty good ko's. I think the next move Carl needs to take is to fight a big name at 168 and in 2-3 fights time he will get a shot. He deserves it imo and i can only see Carl going forward in his carrer. IMO if Carl loses a fight soon he will face a lot of problems but i think he is going to succed at 168!
He holds no titles. He's beaten nobody of note. His mouth gets noticed more than his skills. Yet he's the man to beat at 168? Sure thing, kid. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
Mmmm.
Who has Miguel Cotto beaten?
How many 'Champions' has he faced?
It's easy to dig around the likes of columbia and argentina and dig up a bunch of 16-0 fighters - then declare how Cotto has stopped them.
BUT
It's plain to see
he is a top 10 fighter, it's all about what we see with our own eyes that leads us to our conclusions...
...Not padded records.
And for the record, the British domestic scene is very very tough - and Froch has cleaned up and won the Lonsdale belt outright (a belt of prestige) - not like these phony WBU, WBO & IBF belts (zab judah anyone?)
He will fight for the WBC soon, mark my words.
I don't know what this so-called Lonsdale belt means to UK ppl. But outside of the UK i'm pretty sure noone gives a feck.
I don't know why you expect us do be in ave of Froch "cleaning out" the british domestic scene. FFS his last opponent (Dodson) was rated sub top-100 SMW. British domestic may be tougher than many other domestic scenes. But it's still holds very little significance compared to stepping up to world level.
All this talk of Froch being ready to fight for genuine titles is completely unfounded. He needs to get at least a few top-20 names on his resume before it makes sense.
Untill then there are more deserving ppl who are also less annoying.
Someone the other day (maybe another forum) posted about ppl outside the UK being unable to respect queing in general as well as in regards to boxing. Well if anything Froch and his supporters are trying to jump the line here.
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Re: REID SNUBS FROCH OFFER
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Originally Posted by dumdane
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Originally Posted by CityOfGod
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
Carl Froch is the man to beat at 168 imo. He is a real threat and i feel his next 3 fights are going to show this even more! I hope you saw him drop his last 2 guys? They were some pretty good ko's. I think the next move Carl needs to take is to fight a big name at 168 and in 2-3 fights time he will get a shot. He deserves it imo and i can only see Carl going forward in his carrer. IMO if Carl loses a fight soon he will face a lot of problems but i think he is going to succed at 168!
He holds no titles. He's beaten nobody of note. His mouth gets noticed more than his skills. Yet he's the man to beat at 168? Sure thing, kid. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
Mmmm.
Who has Miguel Cotto beaten?
How many 'Champions' has he faced?
It's easy to dig around the likes of columbia and argentina and dig up a bunch of 16-0 fighters - then declare how Cotto has stopped them.
BUT
It's plain to see
he is a top 10 fighter, it's all about what we see with our own eyes that leads us to our conclusions...
...Not padded records.
And for the record, the British domestic scene is very very tough - and Froch has cleaned up and won the Lonsdale belt outright (a belt of prestige) - not like these phony WBU, WBO & IBF belts (zab judah anyone?)
He will fight for the WBC soon, mark my words.
I don't know what this so-called Lonsdale belt means to UK ppl. But outside of the UK i'm pretty sure noone gives a feck.
I don't know why you expect us do be in ave of Froch "cleaning out" the british domestic scene. FFS his last opponent (Dodson) was rated sub top-100 SMW. British domestic may be tougher than many other domestic scenes. But it's still holds very little significance compared to stepping up to world level.
All this talk of Froch being ready to fight for genuine titles is completely unfounded. He needs to get at least a few top-20 names on his resume before it makes sense.
Untill then there are more deserving ppl who are also less annoying.
Someone the other day (maybe another forum) posted about ppl outside the UK being unable to respect queing in general as well as in regards to boxing. Well if anything Froch and his supporters are trying to jump the line here.
Totaly agree mate once again your 100% spot on.
Already all four belts are being fought for, Andrade for th WBC and WBA, the Robert stigler fella and sme other guy are fighting for vacant IBF title, and Manfredo Jr is getting a shot at the WBO belt... i mean i can totaly see what you mean about Froch and his fans trying to the line here, looking at the four guys above records and the level of the guys they beat, its crystal clear that they deserve a title shot and the froch is trying to jump some line by wanting one.
I don't like Froch, nor do i rate him, but with those four guys getting a shot at becoming a world champion in early 07, froch sure as hell should be alowed to have a shot at one of them belts after and to say otherwise is a joke.
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I think that if Carl has 3 big fight this year he can get a title shot in the long run come on he will have one of the best records at 168 and imo he has done more than Peter Manfredo
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
I think that if Carl has 3 big fight this year he can get a title shot in the long run come on he will have one of the best records at 168 and imo he has done more than Peter Manfredo
Well i agree about Manfredo. But Manfredo never got that title-shot because he did anything to deserve it.
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Originally Posted by dumdane
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
I think that if Carl has 3 big fight this year he can get a title shot in the long run come on he will have one of the best records at 168 and imo he has done more than Peter Manfredo
Well i agree about Manfredo. But Manfredo never got that title-shot because he did anything to deserve it.
I know that but i feel if Carl fight 3 big names this year do you not think he is capable of a shot at a title?
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Reid top lad, but hasnt been a regular in the gym for 2 1/2 years.
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Re: REID SNUBS FROCH OFFER
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
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Originally Posted by dumdane
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon
I think that if Carl has 3 big fight this year he can get a title shot in the long run come on he will have one of the best records at 168 and imo he has done more than Peter Manfredo
Well i agree about Manfredo. But Manfredo never got that title-shot because he did anything to deserve it.
I know that but i feel if Carl fight 3 big names this year do you not think he is capable of a shot at a title?
Wins over 2-3 "big" names (top20+) and he is as deserving as anyone else getting shots (and some who should get shots, but doesn't).
Personally i doubt he'll win those fights though.
