Sam Peter...if not Maskaev then what???

I do feel for the guy, he's a good nice person and has worked hard to earn a shot at the WBC title however since the recent events here's what I think he should do.

These fighters are free to fight Sam Peter.

Sergei Lyakhovich, he's a former champ and a good hard fight. If he was able to KO Sergei it would mean a showdown with Briggs.

Lamon Brewster, he's coming back, he is tough but beatable and it would mean a lot to beat him

Chris Byrd, he's older, he's another slick boxer, and he's VERY difficult to KO. If Sam Peter was able to beat him then I would have a HUGE amount of respect for the leaps he has made in his skill.

John Ruiz, a VERY difficult fighter to beat and very game. It would mean a lot to beat him.

Calvin Brock, a young gun eager to get another title shot or big fight. Wlad had some trouble with him, if Peter was able to have an easier time then he would look REALLY good.

Tye Fields, he's a vet a very tall guy and pretty strong however he's not on the level of Briggs or the Klitschko's but being able to box well and KO a good boxer that's as big as him is a feat anytime it's done.

Good evaluation of fights. It's a shame that if he wanted to step it up, there really isn't much else out there. Here's my assessment:

Sergei will get KO'd again. Remember, he almost got KO'd in the Brewster fight, and Briggs was nearly passed out (wheezing) at the end of their fight, but still managed to knock him out. He only got into rankings by beating an overrated Dominic Guinn.

Brewster--this would be good to watch if Brewster is back to par. I seriously doubt it, though. Besides, after all of this time, Brewster should not return to Peter. Let him build up.

Byrd--first he's a Cruiser, then a Heavy, then a Superfighter. WTF?

Ruiz--I would love to see this fight. Remember that Ibeabuchi KO'd Ruiz in a matter of seconds... If Ruiz loses, he should retire. If Peter loses, he will be relegated as a benchmark to the elite.

Brock--can probably outbox Peter. If Peter fights like he fought Toney, then Brock doesn't stand a chance.

Tye Fields??? Club fighter, slapping punches. He would get a Savarese like beating put on him.

Good post!

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Originally Posted by Lyle

I do feel for the guy, he's a good nice person and has worked hard to earn a shot at the WBC title however since the recent events here's what I think he should do.

These fighters are free to fight Sam Peter.

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THis is a good thread. The recent incarnation & improvement of Sam Peter...the one that beat Toney against all these fighters = results.

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Sergei Lyakhovich, he's a former champ and a good hard fight. If he was able to KO Sergei it would mean a showdown with Briggs.

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Lamon Brewster, he's coming back, he is tough but beatable and it would mean a lot to beat him

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Brewster's been away too long. Peter stops him in an exciting fight.

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Chris Byrd, he's older, he's another slick boxer, and he's VERY difficult to KO. If Sam Peter was able to beat him then I would have a HUGE amount of respect for the leaps he has made in his skill.

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I don't know enough about Fields to make an assestment.

Byrd frustrates Peter...possibley wins on points...but I'd have to lean towards a TKO. Byrd seems spent.

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John Ruiz, a VERY difficult fighter to beat and very game. It would mean a lot to beat him.

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Agreed...tuff ugly fight. Not sure of the outcome.

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Calvin Brock, a young gun eager to get another title shot or big fight. Wlad had some trouble with him, if Peter was able to have an easier time then he would look REALLY good.

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Tye Fields, he's a vet a very tall guy and pretty strong however he's not on the level of Briggs or the Klitschko's but being able to box well and KO a good boxer that's as big as him is a feat anytime it's done.

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Don't know enough about Fields to make a call on this one.

:coolclick: Lyle. Good post.

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Yup I like yer post Lyle, (even though I think you talk way too much about heavyweights), but Peter has re-energised a lot of intrest in the heavies, and well done too him. Where i think he goes from now is tune-up, Vitali klitschko (if he beats Maskeaev) then if he wins, the other Klitschko, if he is that good. The picture ain't so bad for Sam.

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Ruiz--I would love to see this fight. Remember that Ibeabuchi KO'd Ruiz in a matter of seconds... If Ruiz loses, he should retire. If Peter loses, he will be relegated as a benchmark to the elite.

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I think you mean Tua... ;)

Oops.. you're right. But Ibeabuchi beat Tua.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

I do feel for the guy, he's a good nice person and has worked hard to earn a shot at the WBC title however since the recent events here's what I think he should do.

These fighters are free to fight Sam Peter.

Sergei Lyakhovich, he's a former champ and a good hard fight. If he was able to KO Sergei it would mean a showdown with Briggs.

Lamon Brewster, he's coming back, he is tough but beatable and it would mean a lot to beat him

Chris Byrd, he's older, he's another slick boxer, and he's VERY difficult to KO. If Sam Peter was able to beat him then I would have a HUGE amount of respect for the leaps he has made in his skill.

John Ruiz, a VERY difficult fighter to beat and very game. It would mean a lot to beat him.

Calvin Brock, a young gun eager to get another title shot or big fight. Wlad had some trouble with him, if Peter was able to have an easier time then he would look REALLY good.

Tye Fields, he's a vet a very tall guy and pretty strong however he's not on the level of Briggs or the Klitschko's but being able to box well and KO a good boxer that's as big as him is a feat anytime it's done.

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Some good ideas here, Lyle. I like the Chris Byrd match-up. That would be a real milestone for Peter if he could get by Byrd. With 24 Rounds of experience with Toney, I think he has absorbed allot of ring knowledge. Tye Fields is really just a big, blundering, 'boxer' with poor coordination and not much to write home about. Calvin Brock is also interesting, but Brock is a smart dude who's jumped into the business world after the Klitschko fight. Lyakhovich is there for the taking, and I think that would be a fight of interest, too.
I'd love to see him fight Oliver McCall. Although McCall is past his prime, he has a chin of granite and can really throw.
I think that it would be foolish for Brewster to take on a fight with Peter at this time. Brewster has to develop some fundamental defensive skills that aren't there. That would be a recipe for disaster for Brewster at this point in time.
I know you will probably laugh at this one, but I would love to see him fight Audley Harrison. I would love to see Audley get put down for 4 minute count. Great thread. :coolclick:

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I would love to see him fight Audley Harrison. I would love to see Audley get put down for 4 minute count. Great thread. :coolclick:

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That would be a great fight for Peter or Lamon as a tune up... I would pay to see that KO!

This should be a non-issue. We should be talking about all these guys as vitalis options. Lyle doesn't feel for Peter, he's elated about this whole bull. See if vitali can still get past those guys. Peter doesn't have to be fighting nobody but Maskaev and that's it.

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This should be a non-issue. We should be talking about all these guys as vitalis options. Lyle doesn't feel for Peter, he's elated about this whole bull. See if vitali can still get past those guys. Peter doesn't have to be fighting nobody but Maskaev and that's it.

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This should be a non-issue. We should be talking about all these guys as vitalis options. Lyle doesn't feel for Peter, he's elated about this whole bull. See if vitali can still get past those guys. Peter doesn't have to be fighting nobody but Maskaev and that's it.

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LOL.... I'm flattered. That looks like a standing ovation. Thanx!

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I do feel for the guy, he's a good nice person and has worked hard to earn a shot at the WBC title however since the recent events here's what I think he should do.

These fighters are free to fight Sam Peter.

Sergei Lyakhovich, he's a former champ and a good hard fight. If he was able to KO Sergei it would mean a showdown with Briggs.

Lamon Brewster, he's coming back, he is tough but beatable and it would mean a lot to beat him

Chris Byrd, he's older, he's another slick boxer, and he's VERY difficult to KO. If Sam Peter was able to beat him then I would have a HUGE amount of respect for the leaps he has made in his skill.

John Ruiz, a VERY difficult fighter to beat and very game. It would mean a lot to beat him.

Calvin Brock, a young gun eager to get another title shot or big fight. Wlad had some trouble with him, if Peter was able to have an easier time then he would look REALLY good.

Tye Fields, he's a vet a very tall guy and pretty strong however he's not on the level of Briggs or the Klitschko's but being able to box well and KO a good boxer that's as big as him is a feat anytime it's done.

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The only thing any of those names would be for Peter is a payday.....He is getting the shaft in this deal......

How about Evander Holyfield in the June ?? bye bye Peter ! O0

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How about Evander Holyfield in the June ?? bye bye Peter ! O0

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I know you're not suggesting that Evander beats Peter. I'm sorry but this older version of Holyfield with his semi brawling style will not last too long against Peter.

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How about Evander Holyfield in the June ?? bye bye Peter ! O0

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I know you're not suggesting that Evander beats Peter. I'm sorry but this older version of Holyfield with his semi brawling style will not last too long against Peter.

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I am suggesting that Peter would get knocked out inside 8 rounds !!! :o and no I aint drinking ! ;) Now that Evander is healed up and can utilize his left hand he is going to be pure hell ! Peter is perfect for Evander right now ! Peter is still raw enough where Evander can take advantage ! O0

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How about Evander Holyfield in the June ?? bye bye Peter ! O0

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I know you're not suggesting that Evander beats Peter. I'm sorry but this older version of Holyfield with his semi brawling style will not last too long against Peter.

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I am suggesting that Peter would get knocked out inside 8 rounds !!! :o and no I aint drinking ! ;) Now that Evander is healed up and can utilize his left hand he is going to be pure hell ! Peter is perfect for Evander right now ! Peter is still raw enough where Evander can take advantage ! O0

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Good one bro. You almost had me believing you were serious. lol

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How about Evander Holyfield in the June ?? bye bye Peter ! O0

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I know you're not suggesting that Evander beats Peter. I'm sorry but this older version of Holyfield with his semi brawling style will not last too long against Peter.

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I am suggesting that Peter would get knocked out inside 8 rounds !!! :o and no I aint drinking ! ;) Now that Evander is healed up and can utilize his left hand he is going to be pure hell ! Peter is perfect for Evander right now ! Peter is still raw enough where Evander can take advantage ! O0

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Good one bro. You almost had me believing you were serious. lol

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;) Truth be told .. I know its a hard pill to swallow ! O0

Hey Lords,

I don't know what pills you are swallowing, but maybe you should try some of the green stuff.

Holyfield looked average at best against Oquendo, and Freddie looked horrible. Truth be told, Holyfield only fights for half of each round. Holyfield was KD'd by Johh Ruiz, and was only wobbled in the 12th round by the litteKlit... where do you see this victory?

i really dont think there is one that can beat Sam Peter right now, holy got NO chance there.. he is the next star in heawyweights, and should get his shot against maskaev before that fraud clit

anyone know where peter is ranked with the WBA? the lick the wbc's ass so im guessing fairly high up?

Vitali can beat all those guys but I'd like Vitali to fight Chris Byrd again and avenge his loss, I am sure he would but who knows if Byrd wants to fight any more Klitschko's.


Bx730Ny, Vitali has been hurt, he is now healed perhaps he should take a warm up fight but let me tell you if Peter was to beat Maskaev and Vitali fought Sam Peter it would be an absolute ASS WHIPPING and you delusional Sam Peter fans need to realize #1 Vitali has never been knocked down, #2 Sam still throws wide loopy punches when he's throwing for effect #3 Sam Peter is still easy to hit!

I do think it's a tough call for who should get the title shot but Sam Peter fans are so angry about his being shafted to really take time to think about it. Sam deserves a shot and honestly Vitali deserves a shot to as it was promised to him!

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Vitali can beat all those guys but I'd like Vitali to fight Chris Byrd again and avenge his loss, I am sure he would but who knows if Byrd wants to fight any more Klitschko's.


Bx730Ny, Vitali has been hurt, he is now healed perhaps he should take a warm up fight but let me tell you if Peter was to beat Maskaev and Vitali fought Sam Peter it would be an absolute a** WHIPPING and you delusional Sam Peter fans need to realize #1 Vitali has never been knocked down, #2 Sam still throws wide loopy punches when he's throwing for effect #3 Sam Peter is still easy to hit!

I do think it's a tough call for who should get the title shot but Sam Peter fans are so angry about his being shafted to really take time to think about it. Sam deserves a shot and honestly Vitali deserves a shot to as it was promised to him!

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vitali wants to fight Maskaev because he knows that is the only way the klit brothers can both hold titles at the same time. vitali can't beat any of the other champs that's why he wants the chump. He waited until Peter beats Toney the second time to announce that cause he was banking on Toney winning. He knows he can't beat Peter so he wants to win it from Maskaev so even he loses or if he decides to retire again, he's ok with that cause they did what they set out to do and they're happy with that. That's why I no longer respect either klit as a real champ.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

I do feel for the guy, he's a good nice person and has worked hard to earn a shot at the WBC title however since the recent events here's what I think he should do.

These fighters are free to fight Sam Peter.

Sergei Lyakhovich, he's a former champ and a good hard fight. If he was able to KO Sergei it would mean a showdown with Briggs.

Lamon Brewster, he's coming back, he is tough but beatable and it would mean a lot to beat him

Chris Byrd, he's older, he's another slick boxer, and he's VERY difficult to KO. If Sam Peter was able to beat him then I would have a HUGE amount of respect for the leaps he has made in his skill.

John Ruiz, a VERY difficult fighter to beat and very game. It would mean a lot to beat him.

Calvin Brock, a young gun eager to get another title shot or big fight. Wlad had some trouble with him, if Peter was able to have an easier time then he would look REALLY good.

Tye Fields, he's a vet a very tall guy and pretty strong however he's not on the level of Briggs or the Klitschko's but being able to box well and KO a good boxer that's as big as him is a feat anytime it's done.

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Brock, Byrd or Liakovich....either of these 3 would do wonders for him.....a win over a fat middleweight didn't give him the "Pop" he needs to justify the rankings.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

I do feel for the guy, he's a good nice person and has worked hard to earn a shot at the WBC title however since the recent events here's what I think he should do.

These fighters are free to fight Sam Peter.

Sergei Lyakhovich, he's a former champ and a good hard fight. If he was able to KO Sergei it would mean a showdown with Briggs.

Lamon Brewster, he's coming back, he is tough but beatable and it would mean a lot to beat him

Chris Byrd, he's older, he's another slick boxer, and he's VERY difficult to KO. If Sam Peter was able to beat him then I would have a HUGE amount of respect for the leaps he has made in his skill.

John Ruiz, a VERY difficult fighter to beat and very game. It would mean a lot to beat him.

Calvin Brock, a young gun eager to get another title shot or big fight. Wlad had some trouble with him, if Peter was able to have an easier time then he would look REALLY good.

Tye Fields, he's a vet a very tall guy and pretty strong however he's not on the level of Briggs or the Klitschko's but being able to box well and KO a good boxer that's as big as him is a feat anytime it's done.

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I don't think he has to fight, nor do I think he should jump ship and try to get a WBO championship fight.

His mandatory will happen and just getting pushed back in line might make that fight more $$. I thnk it's too risky to fight anyone else and he should just be patient. His time will come and this minor setback will be a good thing later down the road.

I would like to see him fight many of the fighters listed in this thread, but not until he is the champ.

Good thread. Personally i'd LOVE to see Peter against Brewster.

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vitali wants to fight Maskaev because he knows that is the only way the klit brothers can both hold titles at the same time. vitali can't beat any of the other champs that's why he wants the chump. He waited until Peter beats Toney the second time to announce that cause he was banking on Toney winning. He knows he can't beat Peter so he wants to win it from Maskaev so even he loses or if he decides to retire again, he's ok with that cause they did what they set out to do and they're happy with that. That's why I no longer respect either klit as a real champ.

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You're a dumbass and you're just angry that Sam no longer has his title shot...the anger I understand but you know God Damn well Vitali would beat the dreads off of Shannon Briggs and flat out destroy Nicolay Valuev!!!

Vitali is fighting Maskaev because he feels he has a score to settle no whether or not Sam Peter should get this shot or wait is up for debate as the shot was promised to both men!

We can't afford a box off because who knows if Maskaev can win vs whoever he fights.


I think you Peter fans are more pissed because if Sam couldn't beat Wladimir then he sure as hell can't beat Vitali!!!

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vitali wants to fight Maskaev because he knows that is the only way the klit brothers can both hold titles at the same time. vitali can't beat any of the other champs that's why he wants the chump. He waited until Peter beats Toney the second time to announce that cause he was banking on Toney winning. He knows he can't beat Peter so he wants to win it from Maskaev so even he loses or if he decides to retire again, he's ok with that cause they did what they set out to do and they're happy with that. That's why I no longer respect either klit as a real champ.

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Sam couldn't beat Wladimir then he sure as hell can't beat Vitali!!!

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Agreed , I would be very surprised if Peter would beat Vitali , Vitali is Iron clad, loves to fight and can take a punch ! Peter is still too raw and would find himself in deep waters in my humble opinion . Sam is still very wide with his shots .

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vitali wants to fight Maskaev because he knows that is the only way the klit brothers can both hold titles at the same time. vitali can't beat any of the other champs that's why he wants the chump. He waited until Peter beats Toney the second time to announce that cause he was banking on Toney winning. He knows he can't beat Peter so he wants to win it from Maskaev so even he loses or if he decides to retire again, he's ok with that cause they did what they set out to do and they're happy with that. That's why I no longer respect either klit as a real champ.

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You're a dumbass and you're just angry that Sam no longer has his title shot...the anger I understand but you know God Damn well Vitali would beat the dreads off of Shannon Briggs and flat out destroy Nicolay Valuev!!!

Vitali is fighting Maskaev because he feels he has a score to settle no whether or not Sam Peter should get this shot or wait is up for debate as the shot was promised to both men!

We can't afford a box off because who knows if Maskaev can win vs whoever he fights.


I think you Peter fans are more pissed because if Sam couldn't beat Wladimir then he sure as hell can't beat Vitali!!!

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What "score" does Vitali have to settle with Maskaev, and Lyle, you know damn well that the Peter who lost to Wlad is not the same Peter fighting now. I wish Vitali would go beat up on Valuev or Briggs. He's clearly, easily better than both of them. I have nothing against seeing Wlad and Vitali hold belts at the same time. The bottom line is this: Peter fan or not Peter fan, if you are objective, you have to see that Peter is getting screwed. He earned his shot, and he should get it. I hate to say it, but only a nut-hugging Klitchko ballwasher could see differently. I'm no more of a Peter fan than I am a Klit fan. I like all the fighters here, and what's fair is fair.

Let Vitali take a warm up while Peter whips Oleg, and then they can both have a big old payday and we can get to arguing about Peter v Vit-Klit. That's the fair and sensible option. Unfortunately, boxing is often not fair or sensible.

The score is the amateur fight ALSO he and Wlad will be the first brothers to hold titles together at the same time.


Vitali was promised his shot "WHENEVER HE FELT THE URGE TO COME BACK".....that's not his fault but it is Sam Peter's bad luck.

The Peter fans need to realize Sam could beat other title holders out there and he has the weight to make a move and make a big fight happen but he'll waste his time bitching and end up fighting a nobody and then if he fights Vitali he'll get STOMPED ON.

The people in the wrong are the leaders of the WBC they promised title fights to two people it's not Vitali's fault if any FIGHTER is at fault it's Oleg Maskaev because he has the final say and I guess he wants to make a little bit of money before riding off into the sunset and Sam Peter fans would like to blame this all on Vitali......same as always it's the Klitschko's fault, yeah it's their fault because they are the big money fighters in the division

I'm not blaming Vitali. You are right, it's the WBC's fault and I'm blaming the WBC. They have the loophole to let it's former champ unretire and jump right in, at their discretion. They have a choice, and they are choosing unfairly. It's a joke, because likely their plan was for Toney to win the title, fight Maskaev (when the rematch happened) then fight Vitali. The judges screwed that up, so they mandated the rematch. Peter screwed that up for them again. Now, Vitali's ready, and promise to Peter or not, they want to give him his shot. It ain't Vit's fault. He's just taking advantage of his opportunity. Fair play to him, but Peter is still getting screwed. Do you think Briggs or Caveman is going to fight Peter when he's not their mandatory? If they are going to lose, they, like everyone else in the HW division, would rather go out in a blaze of glory with a Klitchko payday.

I don't blame them for being the big paydays. I don't even blame Maskeav. The WBC shouldn't even give him the option.

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vitali wants to fight Maskaev because he knows that is the only way the klit brothers can both hold titles at the same time. vitali can't beat any of the other champs that's why he wants the chump. He waited until Peter beats Toney the second time to announce that cause he was banking on Toney winning. He knows he can't beat Peter so he wants to win it from Maskaev so even he loses or if he decides to retire again, he's ok with that cause they did what they set out to do and they're happy with that. That's why I no longer respect either klit as a real champ.

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You're a dumbass and you're just angry that Sam no longer has his title shot...the anger I understand but you know God Damn well Vitali would beat the dreads off of Shannon Briggs and flat out destroy Nicolay Valuev!!!

Vitali is fighting Maskaev because he feels he has a score to settle no whether or not Sam Peter should get this shot or wait is up for debate as the shot was promised to both men!

We can't afford a box off because who knows if Maskaev can win vs whoever he fights.


I think you Peter fans are more pissed because if Sam couldn't beat Wladimir then he sure as hell can't beat Vitali!!!

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You calling me a dumbass not only shows me that you're a coward that talks sh** behind a keyboard but it also tells me that you know I'm right and you're frustrated as hell.

I'm still too pissed off, and hoping Peter won't get ripped off to even think about whats next up for him .

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Riddle me this yankee! How would you plan to actually PROVE I'm a coward instead of someone who just speaks his mind and has different opinions than yourself? Were you going to challenge me to some kind of internet duel???......stop being a jackass and argue correctly

#1 You're NOT right Vitali = Emeritus Champ and therefore was able to come back and fight FOR THE WBC TITLE whenever he wanted to.

#2 Yes Sam Peter won his #1 Contender status BUT the WBC already promised Vitali his shot......all I can say is it's bad timing.

#3 The WBC and Oleg Maskaev had control of this situation and therefore they are to blame

...sure Vitali COULD take a warm up fight he and COULD fly a rocket ship to the moon! What's wrong with making money and winning a title right away, he's an older fighter and may not feel as though he has enough time to fuck around with a warm up fight OR he may just feel he's good enough to go ahead and win which I think is true.

Sam Peter needs to take as little risk as possible considering he's the #1 mandatory. He should fight a 6'6" or thereabouts, pushover to stay fresh for the Klitschkos (because Vitali will win, unless that leg is shot) and to minimize the possibility of losing. An L at this point would force him to work his way back up.

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anyone know where peter is ranked with the WBA? the lick the wbc's a** so im guessing fairly high up?

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http://www.fightnews.com/rankings2.htm

These are the most recent rankings of all heayweight divisions. Peter isn't ranked by the WBA or the IBF (I'm guessing he just doesn't pay their fees at all). The WBO, if that counts, has him ranked at #2, behind Sultan. I assume that he will be the mandatory for the winner of Briggs-Ibragamov, but I'm not sure. They could jerk him around and force him into a box-off for his title show, and even if he gets that belt, it's the less prestigious WBO.

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anyone know where peter is ranked with the WBA? the lick the wbc's a** so im guessing fairly high up?

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http://www.fightnews.com/rankings2.htm

These are the most recent rankings of all heayweight divisions. Peter isn't ranked by the WBA or the IBF (I'm guessing he just doesn't pay their fees at all). The WBO, if that counts, has him ranked at #2, behind Sultan. I assume that he will be the mandatory for the winner of Briggs-Ibragamov, but I'm not sure. They could jerk him around and force him into a box-off for his title show, and even if he gets that belt, it's the less prestigious WBO.

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You calling me a dumbass not only shows me that you're a coward that talks sh** behind a keyboard but it also tells me that you know I'm right and you're frustrated as hell.

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Riddle me this yankee! How would you plan to actually PROVE I'm a coward instead of someone who just speaks his mind and has different opinions than yourself? Were you going to challenge me to some kind of internet duel???......stop being a jackass and argue correctly

#1 You're NOT right Vitali = Emeritus Champ and therefore was able to come back and fight FOR THE WBC TITLE whenever he wanted to.

#2 Yes Sam Peter won his #1 Contender status BUT the WBC already promised Vitali his shot......all I can say is it's bad timing.

#3 The WBC and Oleg Maskaev had control of this situation and therefore they are to blame

...sure Vitali COULD take a warm up fight he and COULD fly a rocket ship to the moon! What's wrong with making money and winning a title right away, he's an older fighter and may not feel as though he has enough time to F*** around with a warm up fight OR he may just feel he's good enough to go ahead and win which I think is true.

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Listen you fa99ot. Stop calling out my name over the web like a little pu55y. It's not my fau;t the truth hurts. It has hurt since the beggining of time. If you don't have a legit argument and have to resort to name calling cause you know you can't get smacked in the safety of being at home behind your computer then talk to someone else. I'm not gonna stop telling the truth cause it hurts you.

let me weigh in here !! Yo Lyle you called the kid a dumbass ! that aint very nice bro ! come on now Lets all have group hug ! :grouphug: ...

Now tell me that don't feel good ! ;) 8) LMFAO !

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Originally Posted by Lords Gym

let me weigh in here !! Yo Lyle you called the kid a dumbass ! that aint very nice bro ! come on now Lets all have group hug ! :grouphug: ...

Now tell me that don't feel good ! ;) 8) LMFAO !

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Thanx Lords...that did feel better.