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Just watch an see. ;)
Let's not get stupid now
It wouldn't hurt my feelings if it happened, but I just can't see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDukeof74
The picture I get in my mind is Miranda moving over Pavlik like a dark storm cloud on a beautiful sunday afternoon. Once it starts to thunder I see Pavlik scurrying to throw all his goodies back into the picnic basket and hightailing it the car.
I haven't seen Miranda, but Pavlik impressed me a whole lot. I know people question his past opposition, but Zertuche was no slouch, and Pavlik took care of business in an impressive manner. The guy can box and bang. He's also looks to be a genuine, nice guy. I'll be rooting for him.
LOL..... Very picturesque description.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
Agreed .Quote:
Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
Didn't see Pavlik last night. But still, how can you not love Pavlik's straight right hand. Miranda has a tight stance and is a wide puncher. Against a guy with that type of power and accuracy like Pavlik posesses. Well stylistically I would just think Pavlik has the advantage. I'm going to hold judgment but I like Pavlik. Unless his defense is leakier then I thought, his style seems to be made for a fighter like Miranda.
that guy Pavlik fought last night hit him with damn near everything he throw .. Zartuiche finally run outta steam.. If Miranda hits him like that Pavlik is history lesson.. I see Miranda knocking Pavlik out fairly early , if that match is ever made.Quote:
Originally Posted by amat
I'm not sure I see an early KO for Miranda. I think Pavlik's jab could be enough to keep him off for a bit, and the jury is still out on his chin. He may actually have one. Of course, he also might not. We just don't know from his record to date. Zertuche caught him good a few times and Pavlik never seemed bothered. I know Zertuche doesn't have Miranda's power, but if Pavlik had zero chin, one of those shots would have rocked him, at least a little.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lords Gym
I see Pavlik going down, but I don't think Miranda will walk right through him.
Miranda doesn't have that great of chin either plus he is kinda of wild, But I guess we will all be in for a treat when this fight materializes. I'm going with Pavlik by KO in six.
It would be an interesting fight but Pavlik right now lacks killer instinct and both Pavlik and Miranda have lapses in defense.
Ok, But who do you pick?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
I like Pavlik's work rate, no a doubt an exciting match regardless of winner. O0Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDukeof74
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
Heres what Miranda is about...Pavlik will have some serious problems [youtube=425,350]o_0fT0MXNsQ[/youtube]
Gibbs is no Pavlik.
No he's not. But he don't seem to hard to hitQuote:
Originally Posted by TheDukeof74
Neither does Miranda ;)
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Yeah I'll give you that. But if anybody is knocking out Miranda it's Allen Green. Not PavlikQuote:
Originally Posted by TheDukeof74
;D But you will believe the hype when they meet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny_G
By the looks of miranda in that vid. Pavlik will throw 10 times more power pucnhes and not just stand there for 2 1/2 mins like Gibbs did Miranda and all his fans will be in for a ride awakening BELIEVE that!
Hard to say when Pavlik hasn't had a big fight like Miranda-Abraham or Miranda-Eastman.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDukeof74
If Pavlik boxes he wins a UD....the more he slips up the more likely he's going to get KO'd
Pavlik will be in shell shock when he gets hit from Miranda, and it will happen in round 1.
That's when the picnic (as Lyle said) will be over. Pavlik will go into panic mode and not last too long.
thats how i see it as well ! Pavlik would have problems with that powerQuote:
Originally Posted by Pantera
And Zerthuce is far from a Miranda!
If Miranda hits Pavlik with those clean shots, Pavlik is gonna be layed out FLAT!
good match but i'll go with the pantera.
I'm willing to bet ANYBODY here $100 dlls. that Pavlik DOES NOT KO Miranda.
Anyone who's SERIOUS just send me a PM let's talk and we'll do this.....
that is very annoying how do you turn that offfffff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny_G
IMO Pavlik should fight a good power puncher or good boxer but not one who is both.
So stay away from Taylor, Abraham, Miranda, and so on.
Pavlik should fight....
Kassim Ouma
Roman Karmazin
Ike Quartey
Vernon Forrest
Javier Castillejo
or Felix Sturm
Those are good solid winnable fights for him
I doubt it. ;D Miranda by U.D. or T.K.O.
B.T.W.- Flavor-flave is ghetto trash
Miranda knocks out Pavlik before the 7th round. Pavlik defense is terrible and his punching power is questionable against a guy with a chin like Miranda.
Well, if he couldn't K.O. Smurf, I think it will be harder for him to K.O. Pavlik. Still, I think Miranda has fought the better opposition and will stop or beat Pavlik byQuote:
Originally Posted by Swice
T.K.O..
Miranda's chin isn't THAT good....he's been wobbled many times
Miranda's defense is just as bad as well
All too TRUE, LYLEQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Man what the hell are you talking about?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Shadow
Abraham was 100% all defense and Miranda still found a way to bust his jaw open.
Pavlik is EASY to hit and has been down twice. How can you possibly say he is harder to KO than Abraham. Honestly, that is a rather stupid comment.
Miranda has fought better competition which tells us more about his attributes....stamina, power, chin, heart
Pavlik....his power doesn't ALWAYS impress me like Miranda's does...Edison can catch you once and it's over....look at the Pavlik-Pierre fight....John Duddy KO'd Leonard Pierre in 1 it took Kelly like 4 rounds to stop him but vs Zertuche, Kelly did great landed some big bombs.
Pavlik is a really big guy but a lot is still unknown right now...all I know is he has defensive lapses and vs a guy like Miranda that's a NO NO
Excellent comments. C.C., Lyle ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
...thank you, cc back Shadow...see I can be very reasonable
Pavlik looked very slow to me. He got hit by a ton of slow, wide left hooks that no real contender should get hit with.
Pavlik was so slow, he almost made Antonio Margarito look fast by comparison.
Pavlik will get beaten by any real middleweight.
If Pavlik had a more consistant offense he'd be better.....I think maybe he is weight drained at 160 and could stand to be at 168 or 175.
If you're going to be weight drained, fight in spurts and perfect your defense.