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I almost stopped reading here
Faced with the decision of whom to bestow what they hilariously called "first mandatory status" upon the WBC executive committee voted for Klitschko.
Last week WBC President Jose Sulaiman told SecondsOut's Thomas Hauser that Peter's qualifications ran secondary to those of "Champion Emeritus" Klitschko. Wladimir Klitschko, the younger brother of Vitali and reigning IBF/IBO heavyweight champion, believes this was a fair decision.
While stressing that he could not talk for his big brother, Wladimir told SecondsOut: "Samuel Peter is very talented, he deserves his title shot and will get it. But I believe because of his age, his talent, his reputation and because he was (promised a direct WBC title shot whenever he returned) Vitali should get to fight Maskaev first."
And I un-became a fan of Wladimer too.
Thanks for saying to read on ;D :coolclick:
Yeah I said that cause I almost stopped when it sounded like every other story on the subject.Quote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
What do you expect Wladimir to say????? He's Vitali's brother as well as PROMOTIONAL PARTNER so Vitali AND Wladimir stand to make a fair amount of money if they get the title shot.
It's the mess the WBC created....thought everyone knew about Vitali's emeritus status, the WBC should have fixed it before it became an issue....oh well nothing will ever win yall over......go cry about I am sure it'll help
The WBC is at fault and MAYBE Oleg Maskaev but no one else
this is the important part of the article
http://www.secondsout.com/USA/news.cfm?ccs=229&cs=21217
WBC President Sulaiman will be going back to the executive committee and essentially informing them he has overruled their decision to allow Klitschko to fight for the title immediately.
Sulaiman will say that 'new information' has come into his hands and, in all likelihood, Peter will get the nod - unless he accepts a reputed $1million in step-aside money.
WBC is trying to offer Peter $1 million in side step money ,, Hope he don't take it !!!!
Why ? Because Peter will make a huge chunk of change fighting Maskaev.. the when he beats Maskeav ,Peter will then be the champion and have the money split advantage on the Klitchko fight purse . otherwise Vitali will become champion and have the Champions leverage on the purse split. Peter- Klitchko will be a huge money maker ! on a 70 -30 split. you want to be the defending champion ! O0
How can you "un-become" a fan of a guy because he sticks up for his older brother? Sounds like you weren't to much of a fan to begin with...Quote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
Anyways, I hope this report is true because as a Peter fan for a few years, I really want this to be true. Peter already said he won't accept a step aside purse. I'm pretty sure I read that on Fightnews.
haha What a prick Ant evens is, sound slike he beats one off over the wb and vitali...
ah well, they are doing the right thing, but not because they want to or think its right, coz they scared of getting sued or slatted even more... I consider the WBC to now be the woset belt out of the big four.
It doesn't mean much....I mean instead of Vitali KO-ing Oleg he just gets to KO Sam Peter though I believe Sam won't want that fight as a first defense.
Sam Peter may have improved but he hasn't improved enough to beat Vitali Klitschko and I doubt he has improved enough to beat Wladimir either.
I'm not being a hater I'm just being real with everyone, Sam is talented and should take out Maskaev easily and I think he could beat almost anyone in the division not named Klitschko. I am a Klitschko fan but I don't take that into account when thinking about a fight between Sam Peter and either Klitschko brother....Sam just hasn't shown the consistency to take out either fighter
You know I feel for Peter...IMO and that of most is he deserves the shot...HE HAS EARNED IT!!!!....The again you really can't blame Vitaly for wanting the shot if he was indeed given that option b4 he retired...It is business and not personal I guess would be the best way to put...I found it interesting on whatWlad said about Peter being young and he has time....This is true IMO and also IMO Sam Peter will be around as a top guy for a long time especially because he just keeps getting better...In a few years he will not only be a power house but will have boxing skills to go along with it.....That still does not mean because he has more time left he should just be patient and wait like it's nobig deal...He earned the right to fight NOW!!!!...and if the Klitschkos are so sure Peter would fall to Vitaly so easily as Wlad stated then,,,,Vitaly should take a tune up...Peter gets his rightful shot...and Vitaly takes on Peter in Sams first defense...The he gets two paydays....
Vitaly could make money returning against just about anyone because the interest will be there to see what he has left....and his fans will attend to see their fighter return....so interest will be there for the money to be made....Then interest will peak higher to see Peter Klitschko....Am I correct or talking crazy here?......Hell the WBC has eliminators for everything else and interim titles for everything else so make Vitalys first fight back against someone else an eliminator or interim fight if it is so important to them....WBC gets paid no matter what.......DAMN SHAME they have to be shamed into doing the right thing
I would rather see Vitali fight Valuev or Briggs....I've already seen Sam peter beaten up by a Klitschko no need to see that again and because of this situation I don't see Sam Peter giving Vitali a title shot.
Sam Peter deserves the title shot.....Vitali was promised one, the WBC caused this mess and they should fix it.
What bothers me is that people don't understand why Vitali would want to go ahead and get a title shot and they blame him for something the WBC promised him.
But if Vitali is going to take a tune up I suggest James Toney because JT would get flattened by Vitali and we'd actually see someone who was SUPPOSED to KO James Toney.... KO James Toney
Great news, I hope this is true and that Peter will get next shot at Maskaev.
It was interesting to read that the WBC have a history of shafting fighters in order to line their own pockets.
Never thought I'd be grateful towards Don King but it seems like he's come through for Peter on this on, although it was almost certainly not for the benefit of Peter that he did ^-^
My ideal scenario would be for Peter to fight Maskaev, knock him out in the first round then take the belt, throw into the crowd and announce that he vacates the piece of trash trinket belt immediately and would never in a million years want to be the WBC's heavyweight champion.
Peter already said in a prior article that he's not taking any step aside money. He wants that title.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lords Gym
C'mon Lyle, you know you don't wanna see either klit in the ring with Peter. BTW, Peter wants to fight Vitali trust me and his punk little bro.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
This is funny stuff you wrote BTW....."I am a Klitschko fan but I don't take that into account when thinking about a fight between Sam Peter and either Klitschko brother".....LMAO. I know you were kidding so thanks for the laugh.
I have a suspicion that Vitali is not really healthy enough to fight the best guys out there and he sees Maskaev as a guy he can beat even at far less than 100%. He just wants to accomplish the klit dream of them both holding a world title at the same time and who knows, he might say he's injured again and re-retire.
That leaves us real boxing fans (Klitheads not included) in a worst mess than we were in prior to vitali's return. Looks like we won't get cheated after all though so that's a good thing.
Klitschko hasn't fought since early 04. He isn't a lock to beat anyone, much less the hottest guy in the division outside of Wlad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Why not just have Vitali and Peter box for the Emeritus title. It seems to garner allot of weight with the W.B.C. And then we would be certain who the true champ is. ;D
I'm sure if they thought it would sell they would do it without a doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Shadow
Just out of curiosity I wander what would happen if Lennox Lewis decided to come back now?
I mean he was the true WBC champ after all and retired undefeated. Klit only won the vacant belt so I guess if Lewis announced his intention to come back them Vital would be sidelined and Lewis would get first shot as the Grand Ultimate Emeritus Champion or something. ???
;D ;D C.C. Exactly, bilbo!Quote:
Originally Posted by bilbo
CC...funny but true.Quote:
Originally Posted by bilbo
Well it doesn't really matter now does it???
If Sam fights Maskaev or Vitali or Lewis (if he was to come back) Sam would lose to Lewis and Vitali tomorrow, the next day, and the next.
Say Sam fights Maskaev first and wins whoopty do.....how long would he have the title for anyways???
I know you're not at all high on Peter, but he did drop Wlad 3 times. And he has improved a lot since. And Wlad is far and awa he better Klitschko now imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Vitali has outboxed and KO'd many opponents tougher than Sam Peter and since Wladimir has already outted the flaws of the great Sam-dini it would just be EASIER for Vitali to beat him.....besides how do you rabbit punch someone with Vitali's style??? That's Sam's claim to fame
You're not taking into account that he has fought 24 rounds with James Toney, Lyle. You can honestly sit there and say he is the same boxer that fought Wladdy before??? C'mon!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
That's ridiculous. Peter has improved considerably and Vitali hasn't fought since late 2004! Peter has been consistently more active, and he is also the younger, hungrier fighter. Vitali is just trying to settle an old score for getting KTFO by Maskaev in the amateurs. I can't say that I blame him, though. And it's good he wants to redeem himself from a K.O. loss.
It's much easier for Vitali to take the path of least resistance and fight Maskaev. Why would he jeopardize getting KTFO by Peter? I guess that Peter can pummel his stupid looking milk-boy face in and then decide to retire for a couple of years while holding the 'EMERITUS' title. I doubt that he will do that, though. Instead, I think Peter will do his best to unify the titles.
Sam is one of the most dominant Heavyweights out there right now. He has the potential to hold that title for a long time, Sam is improving every time out. the more he fights and get good experience the less likely someone will beat him . .. Vitali just wanted to jump in and win the belt before Peter grabbed it.. Maskeav is perceived to be the lesser threat , an easy win in Vitali's mind.. Peter is much more of a live challenge. I would love to see Peter do well vs. Maskieav, then knock out the Klit and go from there ! . Peter is good for boxing ! an exciting style, terrific work rate. and excellent power ! just what the heavyweight divison needs ! no more 6'7 boring ass heavyweights ! O0Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
if only........that would be perfect!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
When the hell did James Toney cement his legacy at heavyweight????
VS Maskaev, Vitali has a history .......VS Peter it's already been done by his brother
Doesn't matter much IMO....Vitali will have a title before all is said and done
He wom't get it fighting Peter. Here's my prediction: Peter will knock both klits out before the year is done if they dare get in the ring with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Agreed. C.C. The two ShitKo brothers will get their heads handed to them. ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Bx730NY
.....and you call me a nut huggerQuote:
Originally Posted by Bx730NY
Wladimir was just off of his weakest performances in his career and he takes Sam's punches and wins almost every round and yet Sam Peter will KO him this year???? hahahaha
Vitali has NEVER been knocked down and Sam Peter is too slow to catch him. Vitali has taken FLUSH shots from Lennox Lewis and Corrie Sanders, Sam Peter is not on the same level as them.
Sam Peter will never beat Wladimir or Vitali....he MAY be able to Shannon Briggs but that dude is waaaaaay past his prime
HEHEHEHEHEH!! You know that Vitali will be seeing spotlights on his back. You're just scared to admit it. But I still you love u, bro!! Stay off the Pabst, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Don't worry, Lyle always goes into a nervous rage when he hears the words Peter, Klitchko and fight in the same sentence.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Shadow
Why would I be nervous? Like Sam Peter was close to beating Wladimir in their fight....Sam was fucking lucky to win the rounds when he knocked Wlad down!!!! That's how sorry of a BOXER Sam Peter is....now things may have changed but it's amazing what a good hard jab that lands consistantly will do to someone who has made improvements
I have a prediction. If Peter fights for and wins the belt and then fights whoever they put in front of him and eventually gets a 2nd or 3rd, the WBC is going to make a different mandatory then the other belts just so they can strip him of the title. Forcing them into the match (they promised) is going to leave a bitter taste in the mouth...Quote:
Originally Posted by amat
Well if Sam fights and wins the belt he'll probably be persuaded to match up vs Vitali to appease Vitali and the fact he is/was Emeritus Champion.
Sam Peter can fight Vitali a KNOWN tough heavyweight fighter who can bring the bank vs WHOEVER he fights
OR
Sam Peter can feel slighted by what Vitali tried to do and deny him a shot until he proves himself
Both are fine and acceptable to me, I know Vitali and any other fighter would like money and the title sooner than later but it won't stop Vitali from being a successful fighter...he'll get his.....as will Sam Peter.
Politics really take fun out of boxing....politics and Don King
How can you say boxing takes the fun out of boxing when you've been the biggest supporter of that "emeritus" bullcrap. On one hand, you have guys out there fighting their butts off to earn their shot and on the the other hand, you have two selfish guys who want to be first brothers to hold HW titles at once, trying to do it the easiest way possible. So what's the bet Lyle? Peter vs either Klitchko and loser has to retire their name and start from scratch sounds fair to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
If I was Peter and I won the WBC belt and then unified any of the other belts, I would dump the WBC immediately and keep the other and not waste another dime on their sanctioning fees. Vitali can then go to the dumpster and pick it up out of there and he and his brother can accomplish their goal that way. I mean, it's obvious that they don't care how they do it anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by liquid
Yup thats what I would do. As soon as I had won the belt, I'd throw it into the crowd and say that I wouldn't represent the WBC as their champion in a million years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bx730NY
I'd say' Larry, you know I had a paper crown in my Christmas Cracker last year that means more to me than these piece of shit trinket belt ^-^