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green on fighting miranda= this is going to be shutout im going to humiliate him
i couldnt fit rest in lol but this is rest of title * destroy him and knock him out*
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Re: green on fighting miranda= this is going to be shutout im going to humiliate him
He sure can talk, that' certain. I'll give Green this - he knows how to evalute fighters. He's right about Miranda being one dimensional, and he predicted the Lacy-Calzaghe fight pretty much exactly like it happened.But then again, he though Yosef Mack was the man and I just saw on what happened to him over on another thread. Wheither he can take advantage of Miranda being one dimensional, I don't know. With all that mouth, I wouldn't mind seeing Miranda shut it. But then again, he though Yosef Mack was the man and I just saw on what happened to him over on another thread.
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Re: green on fighting miranda= this is going to be shutout im going to humiliate him
Miranda will destroy Green on his way up the ladder until a rematch against Abraham (of which I have no clue who will win!) but if he wins that he will then rip Pavik in two adn ehn dstroy Tylor...only to loose a decision to my guy Ronald "Winky" Wright.
Power aint everything...but it's a lot against the men before him.
Miranda is safe as long as Winky retires before the match can be made.
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Re: green on fighting miranda= this is going to be shutout im going to humiliate
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
Miranda will destroy Green on his way up the ladder until a rematch against Abraham (of which I have no clue who will win!) but if he wins that he will then rip Pavik in two adn ehn dstroy Tylor...only to loose a decision to my guy Ronald "Winky" Wright.
Power aint everything...but it's a lot against the men before him.
Miranda is safe as long as Winky retires before the match can be made.
Yea you'd have to figure that Winky would be a total nightmare for Miranda, it would still be interesting to see the fight though.. Edison can really, really bang. Id say he's a more powerful and dangerous puncher than Taylor. Not as schooled but at the same time Taylor has flaws that can be capitalized on almost just as easily. Honestly I think Miranda would give Winky a much tougher fight than many would first think. He obviously doesn't have the same technique as Jermain so he would be hard pressed to land on Wright, but he also doesn't tend to back straight up into every corner over and over again with his hands down.. He's raw but it could actually benefit him, he doesn't second guess himself and go deer in headlights like Jermain can at times.
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Re: green on fighting miranda= this is going to be shutout im going to humiliate him
And I git tickets already for that event. Long time since there was a good card in Puerto Rico.
Yo boriucuas got your?
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Re: green on fighting miranda= this is going to be shutout im going to humiliate him
If Green isn't weight drained I think he'll do exactly what he's saying he'll do. You have to understand he's thumped out guys a lot bigger than Miranda....we all saw what he did with Codrington a guy everyone (yes that's right EVERYONE) thought would beat him and it turned out to be his coming out party.
Miranda is a good fighter but really onesided.....I see it being much like McClellan-Jackson!
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Re: green on fighting miranda= this is going to be shutout im going to humiliate him
I like Allen Green, but lets not get crazy !
this was not so long ago.. I think is more likely that Miranda is going to do an old fashioned tap dance on that Green ass !
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Re: green on fighting miranda= this is going to be shutout im going to humiliate
This was Miranda not too long ago after getting hit with a right hand because of him keeping his left low on the inside
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Now I think you'd say, Miranda came back from this and stopped Eastman. But Green did the same thing. opposition isnt the same but the situation of in trouble is and coming back from adversity is.
How about we go by their last performances to be fair.
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Re: green on fighting miranda= this is going to be shutout im going to humiliate
Miranda's last round of his last performance
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Green's last round of his last performance
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Let's judge on that :)
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Re: green on fighting miranda= this is going to be shutout im going to humiliate
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Re: green on fighting miranda= this is going to be shutout im going to humiliate
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Originally Posted by Majesty
This was Miranda not too long ago after getting hit with a right hand because of him keeping his left low on the inside
[youtube=425,350]Qkp9iGx5BD8[/youtube]
Now I think you'd say, Miranda came back from this and stopped Eastman. But Green did the same thing. opposition isnt the same but the situation of in trouble is and coming back from adversity is.
How about we go by their last performances to be fair.
Yeah but Howard Eastman is Former World Champion Miranda was facing. You supposed to have a few wave to overcome in fight like that. ! Donnie McCrary “ Greens opponent was hand picked sparring partner, who had never beaten anyone with a winning record, huge difference in competition . If a fighter going to be running their mouth like Green, they need be sure they don't have any recent McCray type ownages on film ( LMFAO) ! Now it true he come back from it,, but that’s only because McCrary didn't know how to handle that situation and finish . !
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Re: green on fighting miranda= this is going to be shutout im going to humiliate
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by Majesty
This was Miranda not too long ago after getting hit with a right hand because of him keeping his left low on the inside
[youtube=425,350]Qkp9iGx5BD8[/youtube]
Now I think you'd say, Miranda came back from this and stopped Eastman. But Green did the same thing. opposition isnt the same but the situation of in trouble is and coming back from adversity is.
How about we go by their last performances to be fair.
Yeah but Howard Eastman is Former World Champion Miranda was facing. You supposed to have a few wave to overcome in fight like that. ! Donnie McCrary “ Greens opponent was hand picked sparring partner, who had never beaten anyone with a winning record, huge difference in competition . If a fighter going to be running their mouth like Green, they need be sure they don't have any recent McCray type ownages on film ( LMFAO) ! Now it true he come back from it,, but that’s only because McCrary didn't know how to handle that situation and finish . !
Neither does Eastman, the Joppy fight and this fight.
But like I said, opposition isn't the same.
And also like I said, to be fair, let's look at both of their recent fights.
I think you forgot something about it.
Don't look at the weaknesses of a fighter 5 fights ago as if they never improved.
If Green didn't improve he wouldn't still be unbeaten, if Miranda hadn't improved he wouldn't have had such a close fight with Abraham.
So lets look at both of their last performances instead of acting like one has improved and the other hasnt.
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Re: green on fighting miranda= this is going to be shutout im going to humiliate
Ripped from another post of mine. Think it sums up my thoughts pretty good.
The fight is going to be won at whatever distance they fight at. Green is faced with the task of keeping Miranda on the outside and scoring with the big 1,2. No one has been able to keep Miranda outside as of yet. Abraham circled a bit and gave him a few different looks and everything but Green isn't going to win the same way Abraham did. So how do you keep him on the outside? It's something no one has done yet so it'll be interesting to see how Green handles it. If the fight goes on the inside then it is Green's fight to lose.
But Green is so chinny. Miranda or Lacy eats him alive. If anything he is tailor made for them. The only way he wins is if he can establish distance and use straight punching to punch inside of Miranda's wide punching. But Miranda may punch wide but his stance is tight so that could present some problems to. However, I'm not so sure that Green is faster then Miranda especially in terms of hand speed and Green can not trade with Miranda punch for punch. Especially with his long arms on the inside. I think it'll be fun for a while, with both fighters hurting each other early but Miranda wins in fairly dominating fashion.
Mirando KO 5
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Re: green on fighting miranda= this is going to be shutout im going to humiliate
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by Majesty
This was Miranda not too long ago after getting hit with a right hand because of him keeping his left low on the inside
[youtube=425,350]Qkp9iGx5BD8[/youtube]
Now I think you'd say, Miranda came back from this and stopped Eastman. But Green did the same thing. opposition isnt the same but the situation of in trouble is and coming back from adversity is.
How about we go by their last performances to be fair.
Yeah but Howard Eastman is Former World Champion Miranda was facing. You supposed to have a few wave to overcome in fight like that. ! Donnie McCrary “ Greens opponent was hand picked sparring partner, who had never beaten anyone with a winning record, huge difference in competition . If a fighter going to be running their mouth like Green, they need be sure they don't have any recent McCray type ownages on film ( LMFAO) ! Now it true he come back from it,, but that’s only because McCrary didn't know how to handle that situation and finish . !
Neither does Eastman, the Joppy fight and this fight.
But like I said, opposition isn't the same.
And also like I said, to be fair, let's look at both of their recent fights.
I think you forgot something about it.
Don't look at the weaknesses of a fighter 5 fights ago as if they never improved.
If Green didn't improve he wouldn't still be unbeaten, if Miranda hadn't improved he wouldn't have had such a close fight with Abraham.
So lets look at both of their last performances instead of acting like one has improved and the other hasnt.
.. I think Miranda will stop Green inside 6 O0 it should be a nice exciting match whomever wins ! O0 I like these guys fighting each other, no spoon feed bullshit. keep in mind the winner as well as loser can gain from a match like this !
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Re: green on fighting miranda= this is going to be shutout im going to humiliate him
OMG this fight it's gonna end by KO I just hope it last 5 rounds at least. oh and I edge Miranda but you never know.
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Re: green on fighting miranda= this is going to be shutout im going to humiliate him
Green didn't prepare for the guy he got knocked down by...he was a replacement AND former sparring partner.
Allan Green is a good boxer and aside from ONE slip up he's perfect.....Miranda is a HUGE power puncher but his defense is lacking ALWAYS and he gets frustrated with BOXERS.
I say Green by KO mid to late rounds....it'll last that long because they will size each other up and then figure out how to land the KO punch
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Re: green on fighting miranda= this is going to be shutout im going to humiliate
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Green didn't prepare for the guy he got knocked down by...he was a replacement AND former sparring partner.
Allan Green is a good boxer and aside from ONE slip up he's perfect.....Miranda is a HUGE power puncher but his defense is lacking ALWAYS and he gets frustrated with BOXERS.
I say Green by KO mid to late rounds....it'll last that long because they will size each other up and then figure out how to land the KO punch
Perfect? Did you watch the Emmit Linton fight? 10 rounds and he never got into a pattern, never got comfortable. Green is just as flawed as Miranda imo. And Miranda is better suited to expose Green's flaws rather then it being the other way around.
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Re: green on fighting miranda= this is going to be shutout im going to humiliate
I agree with Lyle. I think Green will come in prepared and ready and outbox Miranda.
I like Miranda but to me he's probably the most overrated guy in boxing right now. Let's face it, he couldn't finish a guy whose jaw was hanging off his face for almost 8 full rounds.
He's not going to beat Taylor, Wright or if they fight Pavlick. I doubt he will beat Green either.
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Re: green on fighting miranda= this is going to be shutout im going to humiliate
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Originally Posted by bilbo
I agree with Lyle. I think Green will come in prepared and ready and outbox Miranda.
I like Miranda but to me he's probably the most overrated guy in boxing right now. Let's face it, he couldn't finish a guy whose jaw was hanging off his face for almost 8 full rounds.
He's not going to beat Taylor, Wright or if they fight Pavlick. I doubt he will beat Green either.
Well Abraham is certainly no bum, and I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who thinks Green could take the punch that broke Abrahams jaw after seeing how badly that guy had him out.. Maybe Miranda is overrated but certainly he deserved to be rated above Green at this point, Allan Green has really fought nobody, it's not as if this isn't a big step up for him. Don't think he's going to handle it to well, hasn't impressed me in a while, fights nervously. Miranda by brutal KO.
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Re: green on fighting miranda= this is going to be shutout im going to humiliate him
Miranda is most certainly overrated. But Allan Green has shown me nothing since the KO of Codrington. 2006 was supposed to be a make or break year, he was supposed to rise to contender status. IMO, he's still short of that. He's just not that good imo. And he's definitely not a boxer. I used to be fairly high on him, but he just hasn't made any strides in a long time.
THe world beater talk from the Miranda crowd certainly isn't warranted, he smoked Willie Gibbs. Eduard smoked Gibbs 3 years ago. Not that big of a deal. And he didn't even look all that good doing it. But an explosive puncher like Miranda is going to be the one to show flaws in Green's game. Of all the big fights, this is the one I'm most confident in picking.
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Re: green on fighting miranda= this is going to be shutout im going to humiliate him
Miranda has more weaknesses that Green can take advantage of. Do you acknowledge that Miranda isn't going to outbox Green?
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Re: green on fighting miranda= this is going to be shutout im going to humiliate him
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
Miranda has more weaknesses that Green can take advantage of. Do you acknowledge that Miranda isn't going to outbox Green?
Of course that isn't going to happen. Everyone in their right mind knows that that isn't going to happen. Green had lapses in that in between range. He's not bad from the outside. He's not bad on the inside. But once you enter that grey area he gets lazy and doesn't protect himself like he should.
And Green isn't keeping Miranda outside. Miranda has sort of a shelled defense and he can get inside on you, you just have to take advantage of him there. And on the inside Green can't bang with Miranda. Green get's a little sloppy on the inside, he's a big guy he likes to stand straight up and slap you around with hooks. But that isn't going to fly with such a dynamic puncher.
