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Warren tells Calzaghe to focus
Frank Warren has played down rumours of a possible July showdown between Joe Calzaghe and Bernard Hopkins - and says the Welshman must focus on his April 7 clash with Peter Manfredo Jnr first.
Calzaghe is targeting a fight in America this summer with the backing of TV giants HBO.
But Warren says the only way it will happen is with an impressive display against Contender runner up Manfredo Jnr.
Calzaghe defends his WBO and Ring Super-Middleweight titles against the American at the Millennium Stadium, Cardiff, on Easter weekend. read more...
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Re: Warren tells Calzaghe to focus
Was a Calzaghe: Hopkins fight really on the cards?! ???
Wont believe it until I see, especially as far as Warren is concerned!
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Originally Posted by miles
Was a Calzaghe: Hopkins fight really on the cards?! ???
Wont believe it until I see, especially as far as Warren is concerned!
well both hopkins and calzaghe have been on about it this year many times, hopkins im not certain about, hes changed his stroy so many times about it, its him id worry more about for the fight not happening than warren, even tho warren is a cunt - if this fight happens and calzaghe wins, he knows thats mega bucks for him.
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I know the fight has been suggested over the years.
I shall rephrase my former posting. Is a Calzaghe: Hopkins fight really on the cards?????
Again its really quite difficult to believe. Its all rumours and ghosts. Hopkins is fighting everyone these days. And now he is fighting Calzaghe after pricing himself out a few years back...
Yep, I believe it all! ;D
And as for Warren making the fight happen?! ;D
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Hopkins - Calzaghe will not happen. Bernard was insulted by the offers made by Warren made last time there were negotiations, Hopkins wanted a 60/40 split of a £10 million purse and Warren flat out refused. First he said he didn't want to fight outside Cardiff, then Hopkins said he'd be prepared to come to Cardiff, then Warren said that he wanted a 50/50 split even though Calzaghe was pretty much a non-entity in the USA at that point, and after all the bullshitting Hopkins decided against it.
If Howard Eastman, who had about 100 fans, can negotiate a fight with Hopkins then there's no fucking excuse why Warren can't.
I think Calzaghe will fight Manfredo, then end up fighting Clinton Woods before retiring. I don't think he'll ever face the big boys of the USA until he does a Hatton and leave Frank Warren.
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Well the basis of the article is sound, that Calzaghe can't go into any fight thinking that he will come out an easy winner, that is quite simply a recipe for disaster. As for a fight with Hopkins, I don't think that's the kind of bait that he should be looking at, instead, he should be focussing on someone much closer to their prime.
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He cant go in to the fight thinking hes an automatice winner but at the same time, Warren telling him he needs to be spectacular will result in the pathetic "showmanship" he pittifully tried agaisnt Bika
I expected him to beat Lacy and wanted him to after what Lacy did to Reid, when he beat Lacy I warmed to him and sat down to watch the fight with my girlfriend.
After telling her how good he is, the prick starts all that shit, it made me cringe and I felt embarrased to watch it
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Yeah the Lacy fight went to his head big time and i also cringed when he got in the ring and started giving it the big-un,swinging his arms about and playing up to the camera while his name was announced.
Just wasn't the Joe we know imo.
Calzaghe is most effective when he knuckles down,works behind his jab and does the basics well instead of looking for the early KO to impress the US viewers. ;)
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Yeah the Lacy fight went to his head big time and i also cringed when he got in the ring and started giving it the big-un,swinging his arms about and playing up to the camera while his name was announced.
Just wasn't the Joe we know imo.
Calzaghe is most effective when he knuckles down,works behind his jab and does the basics well instead of looking for the early KO to impress the US viewers. ;)
I don't know Joe has always been a showman in the ring. I'm really annoyed by his choosing of a sacrifical lamb for his next opponent and even kind of want him to lose as a punishment but I know that once he gets in the ring I'll go all goosebumpley and start cheering for him anyway.
When Joe is on form it's hard not to support, he's the most exciting boxer in Britain by a mile imo.
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Originally Posted by Smashup
Yeah the Lacy fight went to his head big time and i also cringed when he got in the ring and started giving it the big-un,swinging his arms about and playing up to the camera while his name was announced.
Just wasn't the Joe we know imo.
Calzaghe is most effective when he knuckles down,works behind his jab and does the basics well instead of looking for the early KO to impress the US viewers. ;)
I was very dissapointed when he started pulling that shit in the ring with bika; i could see maybe why he done it with lacy, some much shit about him coming from the US fans his 'lack of respect' but i really hope to fuck he doesnt pull any crap in the manfredo fight - you said it best mate :coolclick: just impress by his skills, if he batters manfredo he will take some stick for fighting such an 'easy apponent' but people might be quietly impressed if he does it with great skill - but if he batters him while showboating and pulling stunts in there i think the level of hate for him in the us will rise a lot and manfredo will be walking away with respect for taking such a hard fight.
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Alfonzo Gomez from the contender will be next for Joe, lets not forget Gomez beat Manfredo, if Joe wins against Manfredo then we can all findout who's the better men. Gomez or Calzaghe! ::**
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Gomez are bum fighter, Mora are king :P
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I saying disagree. I are say Gomez was smaller too much that Clazaghe is. ::**
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
Alfonzo Gomez from the contender will be next for Joe, lets not forget Gomez beat Manfredo, if Joe wins against Manfredo then we can all findout who's the better men. Gomez or Calzaghe! ::**
If kessler could fight someone like manfredo, a fairly well known american, someone who, should he beat woul raise his stock a hell of a lot in the states, he would take it and everyone of you kessler fans would agree with it
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I was at the Bika fight and lost a lot of respect for Joe that night. That and the choice of oppo since Lacy.
His 'No average Joe' documentary was embarassing aswell. Him and his dad whinging about not getting the breaks and him being Britains number one yada yada.
Said it before, he is padding his record because he wants to break Joe Louis' defence record, so don't expect to see him in with anyone remotely dangerous in his next few fights
Shame, cos he can fight, he just needs to prove it.
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I saying disagree. I are say Gomez was smaller too much that Clazaghe is. ::**
I are saying that Gomez have so much hand speed he are at risk of breaking speed of light and killing us all, even in slow motion
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I saying disagree. I are say Gomez was smaller too much that Clazaghe is. ::**
I are saying that Gomez have so much hand speed he are at risk of breaking speed of light and killing us all, even in slow motion
When make 7000rd post must doing smart typing. :spam:
;D
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
Alfonzo Gomez from the contender will be next for Joe, lets not forget Gomez beat Manfredo, if Joe wins against Manfredo then we can all findout who's the better men. Gomez or Calzaghe! ::**
If kessler could fight someone like manfredo, a fairly well known american, someone who, should he beat woul raise his stock a hell of a lot in the states, he would take it and everyone of you kessler fans would agree with it
Yeah quite likely - But if Kessler had a CHOICE between Manfredo and Calzaghe (like Calzaghe had a choice between Kessler and Manfredo), who do you think he'd choose?
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Originally Posted by dumdane
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
Alfonzo Gomez from the contender will be next for Joe, lets not forget Gomez beat Manfredo, if Joe wins against Manfredo then we can all findout who's the better men. Gomez or Calzaghe! ::**
If kessler could fight someone like manfredo, a fairly well known american, someone who, should he beat woul raise his stock a hell of a lot in the states, he would take it and everyone of you kessler fans would agree with it
Yeah quite likely - But if Kessler had a CHOICE between Manfredo and Calzaghe (like Calzaghe had a choice between Kessler and Manfredo), who do you think he'd choose?
Manfredo
if he's smart.
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good point dumdane. i wouldnt really like to sit here and defend calzaghe's decision because i like him as a fighter. and i would have really liked to see him fight kessler. but at the same time i can understand his reasoning as manfredo is a bigger name in the states and joe has every right to make some money while he still can as he hasnt got too long left in the buisness.
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Originally Posted by dumdane
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
Alfonzo Gomez from the contender will be next for Joe, lets not forget Gomez beat Manfredo, if Joe wins against Manfredo then we can all findout who's the better men. Gomez or Calzaghe! ::**
If kessler could fight someone like manfredo, a fairly well known american, someone who, should he beat woul raise his stock a hell of a lot in the states, he would take it and everyone of you kessler fans would agree with it
Yeah quite likely - But if Kessler had a CHOICE between Manfredo and Calzaghe (like Calzaghe had a choice between Kessler and Manfredo), who do you think he'd choose?
the kessler of know? Calzaghe coz that win would make him No 1 SMw and a chance at the big american boys.. Fact is though, and i aint saying this to disrespect kessler, calzaghe beating manfredo will do way way more for him than beating kessler, hell calzaghe beating the guy kessler is facing next would do way more prolly sinc ehe is a GB fighter...
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Yeah quite likely - But if Kessler had a CHOICE between Manfredo and Calzaghe (like Calzaghe had a choice between Kessler and Manfredo), who do you think he'd choose?
Manfredo
if he's smart.
Seems to me Calzaghe is maybe being a tad TOO smart (only in his choice of opponents) for the liking of a lot of boxing fans.
So smart there'll be very little respect left for him soon.
So if Kessler is not smart for persuing a Calzaghe fight - let's hope he wont grow any smarter with age.
Who'd wanna see another talent wasted Calzaghe-style.
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Originally Posted by dumdane
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by jangeorg
Alfonzo Gomez from the contender will be next for Joe, lets not forget Gomez beat Manfredo, if Joe wins against Manfredo then we can all findout who's the better men. Gomez or Calzaghe! ::**
If kessler could fight someone like manfredo, a fairly well known american, someone who, should he beat woul raise his stock a hell of a lot in the states, he would take it and everyone of you kessler fans would agree with it
Yeah quite likely - But if Kessler had a CHOICE between Manfredo and Calzaghe (like Calzaghe had a choice between Kessler and Manfredo), who do you think he'd choose?
Calzaghe should be fighting Kessler, there is no other way beyond this. Manfredo is a nobody. Kessler is a dangerous champ with 2 belts.
Kessler should have been Bika....
Warren plays safe like a magpie with a nest of gold...
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Originally Posted by dumdane
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by dumdane
Yeah quite likely - But if Kessler had a CHOICE between Manfredo and Calzaghe (like Calzaghe had a choice between Kessler and Manfredo), who do you think he'd choose?
Manfredo
if he's smart.
Seems to me Calzaghe is maybe being a tad TOO smart (only in his choice of opponents) for the liking of a lot of boxing fans.
So smart there'll be very little respect left for him soon.
So if Kessler is not smart for persuing a Calzaghe fight - let's hope he wont grow any smarter with age.
Who'd wanna see another talent wasted Calzaghe-style.
well kessler might wanna stop trying to get bigger profile fighters to got o denamrk and face him too, that would be smart
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so damn annoying with calzaghe potential to be best ever brit & fks it up
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by dumdane
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Yeah quite likely - But if Kessler had a CHOICE between Manfredo and Calzaghe (like Calzaghe had a choice between Kessler and Manfredo), who do you think he'd choose?
Manfredo
if he's smart.
Seems to me Calzaghe is maybe being a tad TOO smart (only in his choice of opponents) for the liking of a lot of boxing fans.
So smart there'll be very little respect left for him soon.
So if Kessler is not smart for persuing a Calzaghe fight - let's hope he wont grow any smarter with age.
Who'd wanna see another talent wasted Calzaghe-style.
well kessler might wanna stop trying to get bigger profile fighters to got o denamrk and face him too, that would be smart
Palle explaned very straight-foreward to the press, that the offer for a fight in Denmark was directly aimed at provoking Warren into making an offer for a UK fight. They had no real illussions Calzaghe would dare travel for a tough fight.
They repeatedly pressed for a reply/offer but never got one.
Guess Calzaghe/Warren were too busy being smart
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Originally Posted by dumdane
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by dumdane
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by dumdane
Yeah quite likely - But if Kessler had a CHOICE between Manfredo and Calzaghe (like Calzaghe had a choice between Kessler and Manfredo), who do you think he'd choose?
Manfredo
if he's smart.
Seems to me Calzaghe is maybe being a tad TOO smart (only in his choice of opponents) for the liking of a lot of boxing fans.
So smart there'll be very little respect left for him soon.
So if Kessler is not smart for persuing a Calzaghe fight - let's hope he wont grow any smarter with age.
Who'd wanna see another talent wasted Calzaghe-style.
well kessler might wanna stop trying to get bigger profile fighters to got o denamrk and face him too, that would be smart
Palle explaned very straight-foreward to the press, that the offer for a fight in Denmark was directly aimed at provoking Warren into making an offer for a UK fight. They had no real illussions Calzaghe would dare travel for a tough fight.
They repeatedly pressed for a reply/offer but never got one.
Guess Calzaghe/Warren were too busy being smart
warren said he made kessler an offer to fight calzaghe some time back to, people like palle and warren are full of shit and what they say to the press when stuff doesn't work out for them is hardly a source to back anything up with
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by dumdane
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by dumdane
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Originally Posted by Fenster
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Originally Posted by dumdane
Yeah quite likely - But if Kessler had a CHOICE between Manfredo and Calzaghe (like Calzaghe had a choice between Kessler and Manfredo), who do you think he'd choose?
Manfredo
if he's smart.
Seems to me Calzaghe is maybe being a tad TOO smart (only in his choice of opponents) for the liking of a lot of boxing fans.
So smart there'll be very little respect left for him soon.
So if Kessler is not smart for persuing a Calzaghe fight - let's hope he wont grow any smarter with age.
Who'd wanna see another talent wasted Calzaghe-style.
well kessler might wanna stop trying to get bigger profile fighters to got o denamrk and face him too, that would be smart
Palle explaned very straight-foreward to the press, that the offer for a fight in Denmark was directly aimed at provoking Warren into making an offer for a UK fight. They had no real illussions Calzaghe would dare travel for a tough fight.
They repeatedly pressed for a reply/offer but never got one.
Guess Calzaghe/Warren were too busy being smart
warren said he made kessler an offer to fight calzaghe some time back to, people like palle and warren are full of S*** and what they say to the press when stuff doesn't work out for them is hardly a source to back anything up with
Fwank is full of shit. His claim of making Kessler(and Beyer) an offer was made in a poor attempt at defending his poor matchmaking. He couldn't or wouldn't offer any detail. Not even when the offer was supposedly made. Whole story stinks. Palle publicly called it a blatant lie, to which Fwank did not respond.
Palle in contrast offered every detail. Enough to set him up for bad exposure or even being sued for liabel. But Fwank did nothing (suing would have been his style, if he had a case).
I agree that promoters in general should not be trusted and that Palle is likely no better than the average. But Fwank is in a league of his own when it comes to lying.
