Hatton v Castillo is off says Hobson, Ricky to fight N'dou/Rabah winner!

Check this out :o
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=9759&more=1
http://www.smh.com.au/news/Sport/Hat...919575114.html

Hmm

No big surprise. Hatton don't want anything to do with Castillo's body attack. Safer for him to face N'dou or Rabah

Hold up... ;D
The Castillo fight is still going on if he wins, apparantley in November

"They (Team Hatton) have got two dates with (American pay television network) HBO in June and November, and the Castillo fight will be put back to November."

http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,...rom=public_rss

I'm disappointed with Hatton.

Let me say first, that obviously the commissions are to blame more than anyone else for all the meaningless belts, bogus #1 contenders, etc.
But the fighters can do something to fix the system by just fighting the best guys out there.
I'm sorry, but if Hatton really cares about being the best out there and going down as a great fighter, then he would tell the IBF to go to hell and he would just face Castillo now. Having a belt means nothing anymore.
Pacquiao doesn't have a single belt, but if someone asks who's the champ at 130, the answer is Pacquiao.
Barrera dumped a ton of belts over the years so he could face the guys he wanted to face, not the guys the commissions told him to face.
Having a IBF belt doesn't prove you're the best at 140, beating Castillo would prove he's still the best.

I agree and am a huge Hatton fan but the chap is full of Sh*t!

"Im not bothered about belts at this stage of my career,my legacy and fighting the best and biggest names are more important"

Ricky Hatton 2006

I read that this may be the case on fightnews and thought it has to be bullshit, and then I go to Secondsout and they are usually very reliable and they are saying the same thing...


Good grief. I really don't want to wait to November to see this fight. I'm having a hard enough time waiting for May for Oscar/Floyd...


Got to say, I like Hatton. But if this is true it will make me like him a lot less...

Oh dear

Sadly not really surprising though

Soon as Hobson mentioned the possibility of fighting the N'dou-Rabah winner next instead of Castillo the writing was on the wall

Personally I'm glad that Ricky is choosing to honour his new belt obligations.

I don't understand some of you posters. In order for world titles to not be completely meaningless champions need to honour and respect them.

If a champion has a mandatory fight, then he should respect that and fight that fight.

Hatton can still fight Castillo in November.

He should be going for the Stadium names at this stage of his career imo.
That is what we were promised last year after all ;)

ahhhhh what. is this definate then?
as if i have to wait till november, i was well looking forward to the june 2nd clash

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Originally Posted by bilbo

Personally I'm glad that Ricky is choosing to honour his new belt obligations.

I don't understand some of you posters. In order for world titles to not be completely meaningless champions need to honour and respect them.

If a champion has a mandatory fight, then he should respect that and fight that fight.

Hatton can still fight Castillo in November.

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N'dou and Rabah are undeserving of a title shot

A 3rd non exciting and non significant fight for Ricky in a row... What is he/they thinking ? Dont they want Hatton to be great ?

Bil,whilst I see where you are coming from,in certain situations,I don't think I need a belt to tell me when someone is the best fighter in the division. It would be an insignificant fight. The only way I would understand Hatton not fighting JLC straight away was may be if he was trying to unify his title with another. If he's not going,there;s no point.

And in the meantime,JLC will have to take on yet another gruelling fight on an aging body. If he chooses not to fight in the meantime,the rust will still be there.

Once again Ricky Hatton figures out a way to weazel his way out of a fight against a good fighter that's not in his own backyard. Ricky Hatton is the biggest coward the world of sports has ever known.

shameful

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Originally Posted by bilbo

Personally I'm glad that Ricky is choosing to honour his new belt obligations.

I don't understand some of you posters. In order for world titles to not be completely meaningless champions need to honour and respect them.

If a champion has a mandatory fight, then he should respect that and fight that fight.

Hatton can still fight Castillo in November.

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Bilbo I disagree entirely with you here: How can anybody honour and respect an organisation that has these two ranked high enough to be their mandatory?


Hobson has a lot to answer for methinks... Ricky should have signed with Golden Boy and not this clown.


Collazo, Urango and Ndou or Rabah in 3 fights??

Yeah, Hobson is really bringing it...

I'm pissed with hatton. tired of all this BS that's hes doing this and doing that.

How many more of these fights do we have to put up with before he gets on his bike and does something.

If he can drop the belt to fight collazo then surely he can do it for what could be a carrer high earning against castillo that truly would see him in the elite if he won.

Now i know some little b**ch is going to say he had the welterweight belt to gain (forgot which one out of the 100's available) but he even said himself that he had no plans to stay there meaning he has to vacate his belt?

140 champion - vacates belts to fight for 147 belt - wins 147 belt - vacates 147 belt - fight for old 140 belt - wins 140 belt - Can make career high earning and more cred - doesn't want to vacate belt.

Disagree with me if you want but collazo has done something to hatton and he wants to just be like calzaghe and every fight for the rest of his career can be a tune up fight :/

Used to be a massive fan of this man but enoughs enough

I don't give a gotdam what anyone says...this is bullshit & no human on this planet can pull damage control on this one...it's just bullshit.

Hatton's team promised us Castillo as the next BIG fight, HBO promised us Castillo as the next BIG fight, & Hatton himself promised us Castillo as the next BIG fight.

Sorry folks...Hatton bailed on his other belt at welter after he chased Mayweather up to 147 & took a hiding from Collazo & now Urango busts him up a bit & they look for even weaker opposition.

That 147 belt meant nothing & now all the sudden obligations to a belt at 140 mean more to him now? Hatton just said that the Castillo fight was for the fans & it was the fight they all wanted to see...but now...Ricky wants to fight the N'dou/Rabah winner?

This is laughable bullshit. I'm disgusted. I was developing some respect for Hatton for fighting Castillo & then hopefully someone...anyone...now that he had come to America...but he's just gonna chump about.

Done with him...really. What's the point in gettin up on him if he aint gonna do what he says at ANY weight?

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I don't give a gotdam what anyone says...this is bullshit & no human on this planet can pull damage control on this one...it's just bullshit.

Hatton's team promised us Castillo as the next BIG fight, HBO promised us Castillo as the next BIG fight, & Hatton himself promised us Castillo as the next BIG fight.

Sorry folks...Hatton bailed on his other belt at welter after he chased Mayweather up to 147 & took a hiding from Collazo & now Urango busts him up a bit & they look for even weaker opposition.

That 147 belt meant nothing & now all the sudden obligations to a belt at 140 mean more to him now? Hatton just said that the Castillo fight was for the fans & it was the fight they all wanted to see...but now...Ricky wants to fight the N'dou/Rabah winner?

This is laughable bullshit. I'm disgusted. I was developing some respect for Hatton for fighting Castillo & then hopefully someone...anyone...now that he had come to America...but he's just gonna chump about.

Done with him...really. What's the point in gettin up on him if he aint gonna do what he says at ANY weight?

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cool click mate

im one of hattons biggest fans but im disappointed with him if this true

i was reading in the paper today that castillo was after tickets to see Manchester United play. I thought " great hype for the fight"

hatton v castilo would sell if there was no belt on the line. im always of the assumption that fighters make belts and not the other way round.

look at pacquiao v barrera. no recognised belt on the line but the pacman win got him instant recognition

if hatton beats castillo he gets recognition no matter if any titles on the line or not

What a crock of shit, seriously it's like Frank Warren all over again making safe fights to cash in on. Can Rick refuse this at all without breaking contract obligations?





FUCK IT!!! >:mad

Now there's a good boy who does what's expected of him. Kudos.

He better fight the winner of N'dou/Rabah in Manchester just incase...you know... the :drunks: catches up with him. If Hatton loses to one of those two it's safe to say that he "cooked his goose."

And that way if he wins he can take all his mates (and a few people he doesn't even like) out for a salisbury steak dinner.

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Originally Posted by bilbo

Personally I'm glad that Ricky is choosing to honour his new belt obligations.

I don't understand some of you posters. In order for world titles to not be completely meaningless champions need to honour and respect them.

If a champion has a mandatory fight, then he should respect that and fight that fight.

Hatton can still fight Castillo in November.

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;D

MOST of us don't need shiny belts to tell us who the best fighters in the world are.

What fight would I rather see?

Hatton-Castillo
or
Hatton-Rabah/N'Dou

Hmmm thats a toughie ::**

To be fair, I wouldn't be too upset about this if I were Castillo. He didn't look like he was up for it during his last fight. Maybe Hatton and him both need another "gimmie" before they square off aginst one another.

Or maybe Castillo said "I'm not whipping the fat kids a** until I can get a belt out of it."

Does anybody not think this could potentially be a good idea?

I'm just a pissed off as everyone but i'm going to try and take the positives out of it......

If he fights castillo in Novemeber it could potentially be an even bigger fight because it will allow one more chance for Hatton and castillo to look good in tune up matches. Hatton will look great against Rabah or N'Dou and Castillo will have another chance to look great because let's face it, neither looked particularly exciting the other week. In fact folk on here were even saying they weren't right bothered about the fight anymore based on them performances.

Also remember that IF he does fight Castillo in November that will mean that in his last 6 fight he will have fought.....Tszyu, Collazo and Castillo. If Collazo beats Mosley next weekend people will realise what a good fighter Collazo is. Maussa, Urango and Ben Rabah/N'Dou aren't really bad tune up fights. Hopefully it will pan out this way and then i can be a bit more forgiving.

All 4 major overning bodies need to take a long hard look at their rankings too because regardless of what anybody says, i'm sure a title does mean quite a lot to a fighter. IT can be the deciding factor between being a well known fighter and a barely known fighter, to the casual boxing fan.

All that being said, if you break it down even further a few home truths spring to light.....

Maybe Hatton's team want castillo when he is on the slide. Maybe Hobson and co are trying to take warren's lead and get a world class fighter at the wrong end of his career. Maybe Kostya was on the slide???? Who knows. It's starting to look that way to me. Maybe Hatton doesn't really want the castillo fight and is hoping somebody beats him before November as was nearly the case last month with Ngoudjo. Surely if this is the case, Hatton needs Castillo now and not in November....as Castillo does look very beatable IMO.

I can't really make my mind up and i'm confused as to what to think about all this. It's disappointing from a nuetrals perspective and he's not exactly going to crack America the way he is going. To me it's starting to look like Hatton could have been a great fighter, but unfortunately missed his boat.

I think deep down that Hobson feels Ricky may well lose against some of the elite and is gonna rinse as much cash as he can out of him beforehand ;)
I don't believe for a second that Hatton himself fears these guys to be fair to him but he is being managed badly imo and i said long ago he should have gone the Golden Boy route.
He'd have been well looked after i reckon and if you wanna do well in the States then who better to join forces with than Oscars crew?
Im a big Hatton fan but can see why the majority of you are getting f*cked off with him.
And you've good reason.
We're the staunch fight fans on this planet and we deserve the big fights served up to us.
Don't really know what more to say to be honest and i feel angry i guess and let down.
Surely if he did a number on Castillo in his next fight he'd be first in line for a crack at Cotto or maybe even Floyd.
If you make the right moves and beat the top boys then you can literally force the very best (via public pressure) to fight you 8)

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Does anybody not think this could potentially be a good idea?

I'm just a pissed off as everyone but i'm going to try and take the positives out of it......

If he fights castillo in Novemeber it could potentially be an even bigger fight because it will allow one more chance for Hatton and castillo to look good in tune up matches. Hatton will look great against Rabah or N'Dou and Castillo will have another chance to look great because let's face it, neither looked particularly exciting the other week. In fact folk on here were even saying they weren't right bothered about the fight anymore based on them performances.

Also remember that IF he does fight Castillo in November that will mean that in his last 6 fight he will have fought.....Tszyu, Collazo and Castillo. If Collazo beats Mosley next weekend people will realise what a good fighter Collazo is. Maussa, Urango and Ben Rabah/N'Dou aren't really bad tune up fights. Hopefully it will pan out this way and then i can be a bit more forgiving.

All 4 major overning bodies need to take a long hard look at their rankings too because regardless of what anybody says, i'm sure a title does mean quite a lot to a fighter. IT can be the deciding factor between being a well known fighter and a barely known fighter, to the casual boxing fan.

All that being said, if you break it down even further a few home truths spring to light.....

Maybe Hatton's team want castillo when he is on the slide. Maybe Hobson and co are trying to take warren's lead and get a world class fighter at the wrong end of his career. Maybe Kostya was on the slide???? Who knows. It's starting to look that way to me. Maybe Hatton doesn't really want the castillo fight and is hoping somebody beats him before November as was nearly the case last month with Ngoudjo. Surely if this is the case, Hatton needs Castillo now and not in November....as Castillo does look very beatable IMO.

I can't really make my mind up and i'm confused as to what to think about all this. It's disappointing from a nuetrals perspective and he's not exactly going to crack America the way he is going. To me it's starting to look like Hatton could have been a great fighter, but unfortunately missed his boat.

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i agree with you in the fact that now is the time to fight castillo. surely its in hattons best interests to fight him sooner rather than later

After castillo his fights are at 147, so what us the point of making one more extra defense?



UN-FUCKING-BELIEVEABLE

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I think deep down that Hobson feels Ricky may well lose against some of the elite and is gonna rinse as much cash as he can out of him beforehand ;)
I don't believe for a second that Hatton himself fears these guys to be fair to him but he is being managed badly imo and i said long ago he should have gone the Golden Boy route.
He'd have been well looked after i reckon and if you wanna do well in the States then who better to join forces with than Oscars crew?
Im a big Hatton fan but can see why the majority of you are getting f*cked off with him.
And you've good reason.
We're the staunch fight fans on this planet and we deserve the big fights served up to us.
Don't really know what more to say to be honest and i feel angry i guess and let down.
Surely if he did a number on Castillo in his next fight he'd be first in line for a crack at Cotto or maybe even Floyd.
If you make the right moves and beat the top boys then you can literally force the very best (via public pressure) to fight you 8)

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You're right Smash i'm in same position as you. Feel let down in a way. Hope the Fight will be in UK tho, at least i could go to it. I still can't see how Cotto has risen above Hatton tho...Quintana is not as big a scalp as Tszyu or even Collazo. Hatton needs to look impressive again. BIG TIME

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Originally Posted by bilbo

Personally I'm glad that Ricky is choosing to honour his new belt obligations.

I don't understand some of you posters. In order for world titles to not be completely meaningless champions need to honour and respect them.

If a champion has a mandatory fight, then he should respect that and fight that fight.

Hatton can still fight Castillo in November.

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Why should the fighters honor and respect the belts? The commissions have no respect for the belts. If they did have respect, they wouldn't name #1 contenders based on which promoter pays them the most money under the table.

Belts stopped meaning anything years ago. The only belts/rankings that mean anything are the Ring ones.

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Originally Posted by Smashup

I think deep down that Hobson feels Ricky may well lose against some of the elite and is gonna rinse as much cash as he can out of him beforehand ;)
I don't believe for a second that Hatton himself fears these guys to be fair to him but he is being managed badly imo and i said long ago he should have gone the Golden Boy route.
He'd have been well looked after i reckon and if you wanna do well in the States then who better to join forces with than Oscars crew?
Im a big Hatton fan but can see why the majority of you are getting f*cked off with him.
And you've good reason.
We're the staunch fight fans on this planet and we deserve the big fights served up to us.
Don't really know what more to say to be honest and i feel angry i guess and let down.
Surely if he did a number on Castillo in his next fight he'd be first in line for a crack at Cotto or maybe even Floyd.
If you make the right moves and beat the top boys then you can literally force the very best (via public pressure) to fight you 8)

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You're right Smash i'm in same position as you. Feel let down in a way. Hope the Fight will be in UK tho, at least i could go to it. I still can't see how Cotto has risen above Hatton tho...Quintana is not as big a scalp as Tszyu or even Collazo. Hatton needs to look impressive again. BIG TIME

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Agree that Cotto is still (IMO) fairly untested and as Steelie keeps saying has yet to meet someone who's gonna put it on him.
I must reiterate that i really do not think Hatton is to blame in all this ;)
Never thought i'd see Hatton take the easy route out in the last 4/5 rounds like he did against Urango (Smothering/spoiling etc)
He fought to the bitter end against Collazo when he easily could have got his running shoes on ;)
That's the Ricky i wanna see and respect

Me neither, i'm sure he would gladly fight anyone. Thing is i'm not sure how smart he is out of the ring. From his dieting right through to his negotiation skills.

Shudn't he have a year to defend his title anyway????

Great thread imo people :-X ;D with some excellent points of view from all angles 8)

I will be surprised if Hatton fights anyone other than Castillo in June, never mind all this he said she said nonsense thats flying around. Also Ive said it before and I'll say it again, its ridiculous that Hattons own forum is as much in the dark as anyone else. I fucking hate all this cloak and dagger stuff, little winks here, nods there, its pathetic and seems to go on far too much for a fighter who is a good honest boy like we are told. All this fucking shit was supposed to stop when he left Frank.

Seems to be LOADS of rumour/counter rumour in the fight game in the last few weeks alone.
Just hope the fights we want materialise sometime this year.
We've been starved for too long imo and maybe Oscar v Floyd will open the floodgates 8)
Really do hope so ;)

Fucking Calzaghe. It's looks like his cowardliness has rubbed off on Hatton.

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Fucking Calzaghe. It's looks like his cowardliness has rubbed off on Hatton.

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;D ;D ;D CC. Thats exactly what I was thinking. Fuking British Troll, I don't believe this shat. Surely it must be wrong information? The fight has to still be on. HBO should make sure it is still on. Hatton better not pussy out of this fight!!!

that sucks really but if he has to do it to keep his title then thats fine

What was the source on this?

The thread title is slightly misleading,the fight is certainly not off but it is going to be delayed because Hatton wants to honour his mandatory obligations.

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The thread title is slightly misleading,the fight is certainly not off but it is going to be delayed because Hatton wants to honour his mandatory obligations.

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His mandatory obligations are unworthy. And he already said he was going to fight Castillo next. What is he going to do, back out on his word again?