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Watched the UFC Last night and...
Silva IMPRESSED!!!!
I knew Silva had very good jujitsu skills and he used the fully last night tapping out Lutter. People said that Lutter had better submission skills then silva. Not true. If anyone followed Silva in his King of the Cage Days and K1 days they'd know he can grapple with the best of them and grapple a lot better then those people in his division at this moment.
So Silva has great striking and submission skills and he utilized both last night, impressive.
Jackson didn't look like the devastating Quinton(Slam your head into the canvas) Jackson but he did good scoring a second round knockout, he impressed a little for someone who saw him for the first time, but of those who have seen Rampage when he was RAMPAGE!!! There was something to be desired...
CroCop OF COURSE looked one of the most impressive of the night securing a first round KO all I got to tell you is "CRO COP" and you know how he won. That left kick to the head did it and then strikes on the ground finished him off.
Lookout heavyweight division.
It was a good UFC night in action, I only wish St Pierre wasn't injured :(
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
Silva IMPRESSED!!!!
I knew Silva had very good jujitsu skills and he used the fully last night tapping out Lutter. People said that Lutter had better submission skills then silva. Not true. If anyone followed Silva in his King of the Cage Days and K1 days they'd know he can grapple with the best of them and grapple a lot better then those people in his division at this moment.
So Silva has great striking and submission skills and he utilized both last night, impressive.
Jackson didn't look like the devastating Quinton(Slam your head into the canvas) Jackson but he did good scoring a second round knockout, he impressed a little for someone who saw him for the first time, but of those who have seen Rampage when he was RAMPAGE!!! There was something to be desired...
CroCop OF COURSE looked one of the most impressive of the night securing a first round KO all I got to tell you is "CRO COP" and you know how he won. That left kick to the head did it and then strikes on the ground finished him off.
Lookout heavyweight division.
It was a good UFC night in action, I only wish St Pierre wasn't injured :(
Rampage said that was the most nervous he has ever been, i think the enxt fight or 2 will see him back to the rampage people know of...
gotta love Cro Corp, the post fight interview, hardly said a freaking word lol
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just imagine how Rampage and Crocop would have looked if they both lost!
I'm not sonvinced that Crocop is a sure thing to take away Sylvia's belt though. As good as he is, Tim is pretty good on his feet too, and he has a BIG reach advantage. Will defo be a good bout.
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Cro Cop's only weakness is his body(which Hoost took advantage of) And his chin(which MacDonald took advantage of)
Thats why he keeps his distance
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Originally Posted by Von Milash
just imagine how Rampage and Crocop would have looked if they both lost!
I'm not sonvinced that Crocop is a sure thing to take away Sylvia's belt though. As good as he is, Tim is pretty good on his feet too, and he has a BIG reach advantage. Will defo be a good bout.
Have to disagree with you there mate. Sylvia has heart in tons but he is a striker. Cro cop is a superior striker. probably the best they will ever have in the UFC. I think Sylvia will be like a lamb to the slaughter with Mirko. His punches and kicks are technically superior to anything Tim can offer (who happens to be IMO the most ungainly striker in the UFC...but somehow manages to be kinda effective). Tims legs and body will get kicked to buggery.
Its going to be an interesting bout but Sylvia has to get past the natural first. Who i would LOVE to see take the HW crown. Then again...who wouldnt like to see Randy come back and take the HW crown. The guy is a god and a true gent amongst men.
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I agree. Mirko is superior. But I just think people overlook sylvia;s talent. I think he's underrated. when you're 6-8, 260lb and can actually box not half bad, and YOU can get your high kicks up pretty high too, you have a shot against anyone.
Yes, the edge to Mirko, but I don't think it'll be as lopsided as some think. Time will tell.
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I pretty much agree with Von 100% on this one. CC is by far technically superior to Tim. But CC was also technically superior to Mark Hunt in every way, but still lost a decision against him in Pride (and even had a very rough time with him in K1, despite scoring a knockdown). Tim will be something new to CC. He can actually stay out of range of CCs kicks and still hit him with the jab. He is MUCH better than most people give him credit. I say look for a CC win later in the fight, most likely a TKO caused by constant leg kicks to slow Tim, who will then be dropped by a straight left, leading to a TKO by way of GnP.
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Originally Posted by Von Milash
I agree. Mirko is superior. But I just think people overlook sylvia;s talent. I think he's underrated. when you're 6-8, 260lb and can actually box not half bad, and YOU can get your high kicks up pretty high too, you have a shot against anyone.
Yes, the edge to Mirko, but I don't think it'll be as lopsided as some think. Time will tell.
looking forward to it.....not that I'm a fan of Cro Cop.....
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
Silva IMPRESSED!!!!
I knew Silva had very good jujitsu skills and he used the fully last night tapping out Lutter. People said that Lutter had better submission skills then silva. Not true. If anyone followed Silva in his King of the Cage Days and K1 days they'd know he can grapple with the best of them and grapple a lot better then those people in his division at this moment.
So Silva has great striking and submission skills and he utilized both last night, impressive.
Jackson didn't look like the devastating Quinton(Slam your head into the canvas) Jackson but he did good scoring a second round knockout, he impressed a little for someone who saw him for the first time, but of those who have seen Rampage when he was RAMPAGE!!! There was something to be desired...
CroCop OF COURSE looked one of the most impressive of the night securing a first round KO all I got to tell you is "CRO COP" and you know how he won. That left kick to the head did it and then strikes on the ground finished him off.
Lookout heavyweight division.
It was a good UFC night in action, I only wish St Pierre wasn't injured :(
Ya never know, UFC may go to Japan and get Wandy & Fedor in due time
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I'm sure that the UFC guys mentioned this or maybe they didn't but Jackson vs Eastman was actually a rematch, and Jackson had lost the first fight back in the King of the Cage days. Back when "Rampage" was first starting to do MMA. I gots it on DVD. Also you guys see the arms on Eastman?! The fuker must have 20 inch arms at least, he's a fukin monster. :o
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He's definately a monster, but he's also the recipient of one of the most embarassing KOs I've ever seen in the UFC. After a snoozefest with I think LITERALLY no landed strikes or takedowns, he was knocked out cold by a single punch by a wrestler with no striking ability.
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Originally Posted by Heavy D
He's definately a monster, but he's also the recipient of one of the most embarassing KOs I've ever seen in the UFC. After a snoozefest with I think LITERALLY no landed strikes or takedowns, he was knocked out cold by a single punch by a wrestler with no striking ability.
I seen that fight too. It was boring for the first minute or so, with both guys just circling each other not throwin. Then BOOM! Eastman got KO'd by this dumpy lookin white guy. I thought the guy was known to have some striking ability though, either way yes it was embarassing.
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i was actually dsapointed with silva he can be taken down way to easy espaecailly travis lutter travis is not a good fighter that he won like tha against a sorry drined dude it was disapointing
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Originally Posted by the phenom
i was actually dsapointed with silva he can be taken down way to easy espaecailly travis lutter travis is not a good fighter that he won like tha against a sorry drined dude it was disapointing
Silva has a very good ground game too and he submitted Lutter at Lutter's own game, thats impressive
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Originally Posted by the phenom
i was actually dsapointed with silva he can be taken down way to easy espaecailly travis lutter travis is not a good fighter that he won like tha against a sorry drined dude it was disapointing
Silva has a very good ground game too and he submitted Lutter at Lutter's own game, thats impressive
i agree but he can be taken down to easy
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Originally Posted by Starr
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Originally Posted by the phenom
i was actually dsapointed with silva he can be taken down way to easy espaecailly travis lutter travis is not a good fighter that he won like tha against a sorry drined dude it was disapointing
Silva has a very good ground game too and he submitted Lutter at Lutter's own game, thats impressive
i agree but he can be taken down to easy
Does it matter as long as he's as effective as he is on the ground? It's like they say about Mayweather, there's nowhere in the ring where he isn't comfortable.
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Originally Posted by Hulk
I'm sure that the UFC guys mentioned this or maybe they didn't but Jackson vs Eastman was actually a rematch, and Jackson had lost the first fight back in the King of the Cage days. Back when "Rampage" was first starting to do MMA. I gots it on DVD. Also you guys see the arms on Eastman?! The fuker must have 20 inch arms at least, he's a fukin monster. :o
aye they did mention it, eastman beat jackson in his first ever MMA fight. Eastman was an x pro footballer to, i think he was a running back? im not certain on the positions of the american footy players, but it hink it was a running back.
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Originally Posted by Hulk
I'm sure that the UFC guys mentioned this or maybe they didn't but Jackson vs Eastman was actually a rematch, and Jackson had lost the first fight back in the King of the Cage days. Back when "Rampage" was first starting to do MMA. I gots it on DVD. Also you guys see the arms on Eastman?! The fuker must have 20 inch arms at least, he's a fukin monster. :o
aye they did mention it, eastman beat jackson in his first ever MMA fight. Eastman was an x pro footballer to, i think he was a running back? im not certain on the positions of the american footy players, but it hink it was a running back.
Yep, he has the build to be a running back.
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this lightweight contender was susposed to be fighting an MMA guy in south Korea on sunday. his name is Sirimongkol Singwangcha. any word on how he did.
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I havent thought that Rampage has looked the same ever since the atrocious beatings he took from Wanderlei...never the less UFC's LHW is pretty thin and his addition is a good move, not to mention the rematch with Chuck. I'd pick Mirko over Sylvia, but w/a late TKO. Tim is so conservative it will take 4-5 rounds of CroCop working on him to put him away. I agree it will be a succession of vicious leg kicks that will ultimately spell tim's doom. Although I have the utmost respect for Couture, I simply don't see him being able to beat Tim. I'd go with a third round TKO or stoppage due to cuts. Anderson Silva is an awesome striker, and pretty well rounded, but is very beatable(see ryan chonan fight). I can think of a number of 185ers that will strongly test Silva. by they way i've been in Afghanistan for the past 4 months...what led to crocop leaving Pride..I thought they resigned him after the GP?
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"what led to crocop leaving Pride"
Take your pick from
1) More money/fame from the UFC
2) Quicker route to the world title in the UFC
3) Doubts over how soon he would have had a rematch with Fedor what with fedor taking fight in russia. If he gets injured ( his right hand has not been 100% for a while) it would have been pushed back even further. Some have said he was avoiding fedor but I don't believe that for a second
4) Pride's future a bit clouded. Plus they are disorganised what with non title fights, etc
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Pride is in financian disrepair. I think, basically, there was some sort of scandal... corruption in Pride... and the bottm line, they lost their TV contract, or couldn't rer-new it or whatever. so fighters are leaving because, IMO, it seems like Pride will go insolvent if they can't get past these scandals/contract disputes.
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Originally Posted by ukgaz
"what led to crocop leaving Pride"
Take your pick from
1) More money/fame from the UFC
2) Quicker route to the world title in the UFC
3) Doubts over how soon he would have had a rematch with Fedor what with fedor taking fight in russia. If he gets injured ( his right hand has not been 100% for a while) it would have been pushed back even further. Some have said he was avoiding fedor but I don't believe that for a second
4) Pride's future a bit clouded. Plus they are disorganised what with non title fights, etc
1-3, no doubt played a factor, but I think the key issue right now is Pride's inability to generate TV revenues.
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It will be interesting to see how the Pride for sale thing works out. TV companys in Japan don't want to get involved with them due to all the corruption. I think pride's future lies not with Sakakibara but with Ed Fishman, Zuffa or another unnamed party. Sakakibara has done well to build Pride ( with huge thanks to Kazushi Sakuraba in the early years) but that hard work is being undone despite a great Pride 33 and as a big mma fan it is painfull to watch