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Buddy Mcgirt = Career Destroyer
McGirt is awful. Just look at the track record he has in recent fights. He frequently sends his fighters into the ring with a bad game plan and even worse he tells them to stick with it when it's not working. I didn't get a chance to see tonight's fight but just based on past fights
-Having Brewster start slow and try to establish the jab against a guy with superior boxing skills and a questionable chin instead of coming out guns blazing
-Having Gatti attempt to box with and fight a tactical fight against Mayweather
-Looking totally lost in Tarver-Hopkins and not having any useful advice for Tarver in the corner
-Malignaggi trying to stand and trade with Cotto way more than he should have
McGirt is completely living off of his work with Tarver leading up to the Roy Jones fights. Other than that I don't think his fighters have won any really big fights and he always tries to impose his style on fighters instead of working on emphasizing each fighter's own strengths
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Billy Giales was training Malignaggi with Cotto :)
And Buddy actually was doing pretty good with Gatti.
McGirt will actually say the right things, but the people he trains don't listen. Like Joel Julio, against Quintana he told him to go to the body and Julio kept headhunting, don't blame Buddy.
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There was nothing he could tell Tarver who was totally unmotivated himself.
Gatti he did tell, and teach him different instruction, but after Gatti was knocked down unfairly in the first round he went head hunting, and wasn't listening to Buddy.
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Buddy is a good trainer IMO overrated but good. it seems like alot of people only talk about the fights his fighters wins but i've seen alot of fights where his fighters has lost. My thing is he trains two many people. he'll be on espn2 friday night and on HBO saturday night.
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
Billy Giales was training Malignaggi with Cotto :)
And Buddy actually was doing pretty good with Gatti.
McGirt will actually say the right things, but the people he trains don't listen. Like Joel Julio, against Quintana he told him to go to the body and Julio kept headhunting, don't blame Buddy.
I agree. I wouldn't blame Buddy for last night, I don't think any other trainer would of helped Adamek from getting his ass kicked. Dawson was just to skilled for him.
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Gatti could have had Jesus Christ on his side, there was absolutely no way he could have beat Mayweather.
And imo, he's done good with Brewster. Brewster is the heavyweight's biggest overacheiver and that's in large part due to Buddy.
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Eh...Buddy "Fat ass with Pipe" McGirt is a pretty good trainer but not a great one in my book. He's very cocky and over confident. And like someone else says, spreads himself too thin, tryin to train so many guys. He definately did not help out Gatti against PBF, he tried to have Arturo fight Floyd like he himself would have fought Floyd in his prime. And he did not get Tarver well prepared for the B-hop fight. Also he didn't help out Badi Ajamu much from bein dominated by Roy Jones.
Aside from that, he has helped his son build up a nice little record, and helped Gatti outbox Ward twice a few years back.
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Originally Posted by Hulk
Eh...Buddy "Fat ass with Pipe" McGirt is a pretty good trainer but not a great one in my book. He's very cocky and over confident. And like someone else says, spreads himself too thin, tryin to train so many guys. He definately did not help out Gatti against PBF, he tried to have Arturo fight Floyd like he himself would have fought Floyd in his prime. And he did not get Tarver well prepared for the B-hop fight. Also he didn't help out Badi Ajamu much from bein dominated by Roy Jones.
Aside from that, he has helped his son build up a nice little record, and helped Gatti outbox Ward twice a few years back.
He didn't train Amaju. He just happened to be there for William Guthrie, and Denny Brown asked him to come in the day of the fight and provide corner instruction.
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Originally Posted by Hulk
Eh...Buddy "Fat a** with Pipe" McGirt is a pretty good trainer but not a great one in my book. He's very cocky and over confident. And like someone else says, spreads himself too thin, tryin to train so many guys. He definately did not help out Gatti against PBF, he tried to have Arturo fight Floyd like he himself would have fought Floyd in his prime. And he did not get Tarver well prepared for the B-hop fight. Also he didn't help out Badi Ajamu much from bein dominated by Roy Jones.
Aside from that, he has helped his son build up a nice little record, and helped Gatti outbox Ward twice a few years back.
As entertaining as the Gatti: Ward fights were, lets not forget that Mickey Ward was no A list fighter himself...It didnt take all that much to try and outbox Mickey Ward....
I agree with Amat that Brewster is perhaps McGirts biggest success...Brewster really was just a journeyman but with guidance became somewhat better than that....
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Does anyone here have an idea what make a good trainer?
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Originally Posted by amat
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Originally Posted by Hulk
Eh...Buddy "Fat ass with Pipe" McGirt is a pretty good trainer but not a great one in my book. He's very cocky and over confident. And like someone else says, spreads himself too thin, tryin to train so many guys. He definately did not help out Gatti against PBF, he tried to have Arturo fight Floyd like he himself would have fought Floyd in his prime. And he did not get Tarver well prepared for the B-hop fight. Also he didn't help out Badi Ajamu much from bein dominated by Roy Jones.
Aside from that, he has helped his son build up a nice little record, and helped Gatti outbox Ward twice a few years back.
He didn't train Amaju. He just happened to be there for William Guthrie, and Denny Brown asked him to come in the day of the fight and provide corner instruction.
He was still in Ajamu's corner, so it still counts damn it! ;D Quit making excuses for the fat ass pipe smoker. ;)
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
Billy Giales was training Malignaggi with Cotto :)
And Buddy actually was doing pretty good with Gatti.
McGirt will actually say the right things, but the people he trains don't listen. Like Joel Julio, against Quintana he told him to go to the body and Julio kept headhunting, don't blame Buddy.
Its true.. Its not that buddy isnt a great trainer.. He is.. But his stable seems to be a strange one..
I mean think about it.. Buddy does tell them what to do..They just dont listen...
Also its that fighters like tarver and gatti are hard to get motivated inside the ring..They find it hard to change... For example.. Buddy's training with buddy jr has been great..Because buddy junior idolises his father and listens to every word...
And buddy mcgirt does say the right advice also.. Like in tarver- hopkins he was pleading with tarver to stop pawing with the jab..Start snapping it..He cant start barking orders till tarver sorted the jab..And antonio never did.. So where was he to go from there.. He couldnt just skip out the jab..
Plus.. Yeh Paulie hasnt had a fight under buddy yet... And it was billy who was training paulie last fight.. Not that i agree malignaggi traded with cotto anyway.. I beleive paulie made a go of neuralising cotto's power well and threw strait punches in flurries and moved in and out rather well..
Peace
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
Like Joel Julio, against Quintana he told him to go to the body and Julio kept headhunting, don't blame Buddy.
Drink the water Baby c'mon tell him to drink it!!!! ;D
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:lol: DRIIIIINNNNKKKK IIIIIIITTTTTTT!!!!!!
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buddy mcgirt does suck, you can find him in his gym just sitting there looking lost aS$ usual.
he has ruin careers, he just completely suck!!!!
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
Billy Giales was training Malignaggi with Cotto :)
And Buddy actually was doing pretty good with Gatti.
McGirt will actually say the right things, but the people he trains don't listen. Like Joel Julio, against Quintana he told him to go to the body and Julio kept headhunting, don't blame Buddy.
I agree. I wouldn't blame Buddy for last night, I don't think any other trainer would of helped Adamek from getting his a** kicked. Dawson was just to skilled for him.
What a moron.
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Originally Posted by BoxingGod
buddy mcgirt does suck, you can find him in his gym just sitting there looking lost aS$ usual.
he has ruin careers, he just completely suck!!!!
No he doesnt
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
Billy Giales was training Malignaggi with Cotto :)
And Buddy actually was doing pretty good with Gatti.
McGirt will actually say the right things, but the people he trains don't listen. Like Joel Julio, against Quintana he told him to go to the body and Julio kept headhunting
he also told him to drink the water like 17 times ::**
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In his day he was one of the best pure boxers in all the sport. And he brought back both Gatti's career after DLH and made Tarver a world champion. You don't become trainer of the year for nothing.
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I agree with this somewhat, Buddy did say that Adamek can beat Dawson if they fought again, however, he should go back to his old trainer Gmitruk,, Buddy said their training did not work out at all, Adamek was unprepared and that they cannot communicate,, if we would of seen the Adamek that was in the first BRiggs fight, Dawson would be gone in round 10,
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Good point about round 10 Mike. I have to wait a bit to see the fight, but in the Briggs fight he was so agressive and unrelenting. Not sloppy, no smothering, just a solid sustained attack. It was a bit of a shock to see that he let Dawson off the hook.
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by BoxingGod
buddy mcgirt does suck, you can find him in his gym just sitting there looking lost aS$ usual.
he has ruin careers, he just completely suck!!!!
No he doesnt
yes he does!
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Originally Posted by baller
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes
Billy Giales was training Malignaggi with Cotto :)
And Buddy actually was doing pretty good with Gatti.
McGirt will actually say the right things, but the people he trains don't listen. Like Joel Julio, against Quintana he told him to go to the body and Julio kept headhunting, don't blame Buddy.
I agree. I wouldn't blame Buddy for last night, I don't think any other trainer would of helped Adamek from getting his a** kicked. Dawson was just to skilled for him.
What a moron.
yup he is
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Originally Posted by BoxingGod
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by BoxingGod
buddy mcgirt does suck, you can find him in his gym just sitting there looking lost aS$ usual.
he has ruin careers, he just completely suck!!!!
No he doesnt
yes he does!
Hard hitting insight ;)
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HE was also in Prince Badi corner against Roy Jones. Jones toy with that guy from round 2 to 12
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he was also in bojado's coner when he lost to lejia.
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Originally Posted by 'The Boxer'
he was also in bojado's coner when he lost to lejia.
Leija acted like he knew everything that night, McGirt said to go back to the left hook and Bojado never threw it again and did nothing McGirt was telling him to do.
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Sounds to me like alot of people are underating Buddy, i in actaul fact think he is a very good trainer. Amat summed it up best for me. Ya dont become trianer of the year for nothing!
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he is becoming the jobber of high profile trainers
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Originally Posted by rvk1331
McGirt is awful. Just look at the track record he has in recent fights. He frequently sends his fighters into the ring with a bad game plan and even worse he tells them to stick with it when it's not working. I didn't get a chance to see tonight's fight but just based on past fights
-Having Brewster start slow and try to establish the jab against a guy with superior boxing skills and a questionable chin instead of coming out guns blazing
-Having Gatti attempt to box with and fight a tactical fight against Mayweather
-Looking totally lost in Tarver-Hopkins and not having any useful advice for Tarver in the corner
-Malignaggi trying to stand and trade with Cotto way more than he should have
McGirt is completely living off of his work with Tarver leading up to the Roy Jones fights. Other than that I don't think his fighters have won any really big fights and he always tries to impose his style on fighters instead of working on emphasizing each fighter's own strengths
You can lead a horse to water , however you can't make him drink ! O0
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Originally Posted by BoxingGod
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by BoxingGod
buddy mcgirt does suck, you can find him in his gym just sitting there looking lost aS$ usual.
he has ruin careers, he just completely suck!!!!
No he doesnt
yes he does!
NO HE DOESN'T!!!
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Buddy seems to have hit a Toough spot at the moment..But theres no way you can say hes a bad trainer
I loved what he did for gatti after dlh and brought gatti to a world title at 140.. Loved arturo's performance against Leija.. and love or hate tarver..He did good stuff for tarver...
I think he might be a little too friendly with his fighters and not really let em know whos boss enough..
Cos he tends to tell them to do the right things in the fight and they go out and d0ont do what he tells em... Personally i think he just doesnt have the right stable of fighters to suite his style...
But i think paulie will suit buddy to the ground personally..
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by BoxingGod
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by BoxingGod
buddy mcgirt does suck, you can find him in his gym just sitting there looking lost aS$ usual.
he has ruin careers, he just completely suck!!!!
No he doesnt
yes he does!
NO HE DOESN'T!!!
ooh YES HE DOES!!!!
