* VERY IMPORTANT* JT SERIOUSLY NEEDS ANY IDEAS OR HELP, ANY INFO YOU MIGHT HAVE

******PLEASE EVEN IF I COOLCLICK YOU DONT COOLCLICK ME ON THIS THREAD, I DONT WANT IT TO TURN INTO A SHAMELESS COOLCLICK PROMOTION FOR ME, THIS IS ALL ABOUT MY BEAUTIFUL BABY SISTER. I COOLCLICK YOU GUYS ONLY CAUSE THATS ALL I CAN GIVE YOU FOR YOUR HELP******

THANK YOU ;)

Alright this is pretty serious and as odd as this may seem to be posting help here on a boxing forum, the doctor asked us to diligently do research on our own.....

My 20 year old baby sister got diagnosed with a low blood pressure condition, the doctors(She has a Cardiologist and and Endochronoligist) call it a "Phenomenon" because there is only 117 (GIRLS ONLY) ranging from 18-27 who have this condition IN our area, she is a patient at the UCONN Medical health center which is a top notch facility...

Now when I tell you this keep in mind she is a healthy and intelligent college student(UCONN) that leads a normal happy life she is very health and nutritious conscience ... she has been run through a battery of tests for the past 6 mos ranging from Cancer, Heart disease and all the other common afflictions that may plague the masses but she is completely healthy 100%.

The doctor tells us its a neurological problem, basically her brains not communicating with her heart correctly to tell it to beat normally... because of this her body will not retain sodium at all she is diuretic and pisses alot of vital nutrients out of her body.... She cant lift anything heavy, or have heavy exertion.

The weird thing is they have all the answers and medicine for high blood pressure but nothing for low.... We are researching natural foods and supplements per the doctors orders... The doctor suggested a brand of licorice that is from Scotland that will raise your blood pressure naturally.. Its kind of funny most health food stores don't carry that brand cause its known to raise your blood pressure, you should of seen the look on the guys face when we told him thats why we wanted it.... So we are obtaining the Licorice as a start.

Her heart beats so slow its scary the possible complications of this is unthinkable for me cause its almost a certainty that it can lead to stroke and can be fatal.

The most frustrating thing about this is that the doctors dont know how to treat her, they tied a bunch of things like steroids and other things but nothing is working yet..

Please I'm asking you to keep this thread serious and any experience you might have or anybody you know with the same condition or any ideas about supplements I am open to anything.

Thanks JT

Also if it is possible maybe a Mod could sticky this for me so its fresh in everybodys mind

Hey JT sorry about your little sister. I dont know much about this, but have taken some biology/neuroscience courses and am kind of a health person.

Obviously, exercising will raise blood pressure. You said she can't lift any thing heavy, but probably some moderated exercise 3-4 days a week would help.

Also, found that these herbs will help raise blood pressure:

* Bitter orange
* Ephedra (ma-huang)
* Ginseng
* Licorice
* St. John's wort

You can find Ginseng and St. John's Wort at basically any health food, supplement place. Could likely find all of them at vitaminshoppe.com or gnc.com


But if it's a neurological problem then I dont know how much supplements would do. How low is her blood pressure and has she ever fainted or anything b/c of it?


Should probably mention to her that blood pressure drops during the first 24 weeks of pregnancy. Just in case she gets any ideas ;)

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Hey JT sorry about your little sister. I dont know much about this, but have taken some biology/neuroscience courses and am kind of a health person.

Obviously, exercising will raise blood pressure. You said she can't lift any thing heavy, but probably some moderated exercise 3-4 days a week would help.

Also, found that these herbs will help raise blood pressure:

* Bitter orange
* Ephedra (ma-huang)
* Ginseng
* Licorice
* St. John's wort

You can find Ginseng and St. John's Wort at basically any health food, supplement place. Could likely find all of them at vitaminshoppe.com or gnc.com


But if it's a neurological problem then I dont know how much supplements would do. How low is her blood pressure and has she ever fainted or anything b/c of it?


Should probably mention to her that blood pressure drops during the first 24 weeks of pregnancy. Just in case she gets any ideas ;)

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Thanks!

Yea she does Jogs and does Cardio Vascular excersises......NO WEIGHTS THOUGH PER THE DOCTOR... They are real concerned about her being borderline dehydrated all the time she drinks a big case of water a week and also sports drinks etc. per the doctor

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Alright this is pretty serious and as odd as this may seem to be posting help here on a boxing forum, the doctor asked us to diligently do research on our own.....

My 20 year old baby sister got diagnosed with a low blood pressure condition, the doctors(She has a Cardiologist and and Endochronoligist) call it a "Phenomenon" because there is only 117 (GIRLS ONLY) ranging from 18-27 who have this condition IN our area, she is a patient at the UCONN Medical health center which is a top notch facility...

Now when I tell you this keep in mind she is a healthy and intelligent college student(UCONN) that leads a normal happy life she is very health and nutritious conscience ... she has been run through a battery of tests for the past 6 mos ranging from Cancer, Heart disease and all the other common afflictions that may plague the masses but she is completely healthy 100%.

The doctor tells us its a neurological problem, basically her brains not communicating with her heart correctly to tell it to beat normally... because of this her body will not retain sodium at all she is diuretic and pisses alot of vital nutrients out of her body.... She cant lift anything heavy, or have heavy exertion.

The weird thing is they have all the answers and medicine for high blood pressure but nothing for low.... We are researching natural foods and supplements per the doctors orders... The doctor suggested a brand of licorice that is from Scotland that will raise your blood pressure naturally.. Its kind of funny most health food stores don't carry that brand cause its known to raise your blood pressure, you should of seen the look on the guys face when we told him thats why we wanted it.... So we are obtaining the Licorice as a start.

Her heart beats so slow its scary the possible complications of this is unthinkable for me cause its almost a certainty that it can lead to stroke and can be fatal.

The most frustrating thing about this is that the doctors dont know how to treat her, they tied a bunch of things like steroids and other things but nothing is working yet..

Please I'm asking you to keep this thread serious and any experience you might have or anybody you know with the same condition or any ideas about supplements I am open to anything.

Thanks JT

Also if it is possible maybe a Mod could sticky this for me so its fresh in everybodys mind

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When you have an "unsolveable" condition that regular medicine does not know how to address, I have found that chiropractic or acupuncture have given folks I know great and sometimes unexpected outcomes. Chiropractors deal with the nervous system, so I don't see why this might not be an option for your sister. Interview people that currently are using a chiropractor to find the one that would work best for her. Acupuncture also may benefit, but I don't personally know as much off hand about this.

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Consider it done.... :)

And I'll ask around and see if anyone I know, knows anything on this.
Good luck and god bless you and your fam.

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Consider it done.... :)

And I'll ask around and see if anyone I know, knows anything on this.
Good luck and god bless you and your fam.

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Thank you for the Sticky and The Well wishes Mick... ;) Its tough to see her going thru this at 20... she is absolutely adorable and is TRULY a good girl no booze or drugs and has a real good moral sense... She down plays this whole thing and is just going with it.. Meanwhile the rest of the family is stressed an I'm cut to the heart by this.... :-\

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Consider it done.... :)

And I'll ask around and see if anyone I know, knows anything on this.
Good luck and god bless you and your fam.

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Thank you for the Sticky and The Well wishes Mick... ;) Its tough to see her going thru this at 20... she is absolutely adorable and is TRULY a good girl no booze or drugs and has a real good moral sense... She down plays this whole thing and is just going with it.. Meanwhile the rest of the family is stressed an I'm cut to the heart by this.... :-\

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I could only imagine, but keep your head up. :)

Hey JT, good luck with finding a solution man.

I just found this rather interesting page on google.

http://www.bpassoc.org.uk/informatio...d_pressure.htm

http://www.medicinenet.com/low_blood...re/article.htm


I'm sure she will be ok she'l just have to take better care of herself than an ordinary person does.

I had cancer for three years and have been left with damaged lungs, muscular myalgia, underactive thyroid gland and a general all around feeling of shitness. But I walk 10 miles a week, cycle 12 and eat well and am doing fine.

It's just about taking care of your body and being aware. It's never nice to be diagnosed with an illness but in all honesty I consider some of my beer drinking, smoking, drug taking, curry eating, non exercising mates to be at more of a health risk than me.

They abuse their bodies as they don't think anything is wrong with them but when they hit 40 they will no doubt start to reap the bad harvest of years of abuse.

Your sister, as she is aware of the fact she needs to take better care of herself may conversely end up being more healthy than her friends as time goes on.

:coolclick: for caring about your sister by the way :)

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Hey JT, good luck with finding a solution man.

I just found this rather interesting page on google.

http://www.bpassoc.org.uk/informatio...d_pressure.htm

http://www.medicinenet.com/low_blood...re/article.htm


I'm sure she will be ok she'l just have to take better care of herself than an ordinary person does.

I had cancer for three years and have been left with damaged lungs, muscular myalgia, underactive thyroid gland and a general all around feeling of shitness. But I walk 10 miles a week, cycle 12 and eat well and am doing fine.

It's just about taking care of your body and being aware. It's never nice to be diagnosed with an illness but in all honesty I consider some of my beer drinking, smoking, drug taking, curry eating, non exercising mates to be at more of a health risk than me.

They abuse their bodies as they don't think anything is wrong with them but when they hit 40 they will no doubt start to reap the bad harvest of years of abuse.

Your sister, as she is aware of the fact she needs to take better care of herself may conversely end up being more healthy than her friends as time goes on.

:coolclick: for caring about your sister by the way :)

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Thanks Bilbs.... :coolclick: Glad to here you battled thru some serious adversity yourself and are here to edify others..... Thanks for the links too... I will go through them again with my Mother after work so we can study them together and forward them to my sis.... ;)

Yep my sis is an amazing young woman

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Hey JT sorry about your little sister. I dont know much about this, but have taken some biology/neuroscience courses and am kind of a health person.

Obviously, exercising will raise blood pressure. You said she can't lift any thing heavy, but probably some moderated exercise 3-4 days a week would help.

Also, found that these herbs will help raise blood pressure:

* Bitter orange
* Ephedra (ma-huang)
* Ginseng
* Licorice
* St. John's wort

You can find Ginseng and St. John's Wort at basically any health food, supplement place. Could likely find all of them at vitaminshoppe.com or gnc.com


But if it's a neurological problem then I dont know how much supplements would do. How low is her blood pressure and has she ever fainted or anything b/c of it?


Should probably mention to her that blood pressure drops during the first 24 weeks of pregnancy. Just in case she gets any ideas ;)

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sorry to hear about your situation.. I like bitter orange and Ma Huang and a strong cup of coffee., to get a good boost before roadwork . maybe it could help some? .. I would seek the advise of an herbalist. a good Chinese acupuncturist. best of luck JT :coolclick: to everyone posting advise O0

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Hey JT sorry about your little sister. I dont know much about this, but have taken some biology/neuroscience courses and am kind of a health person.

Obviously, exercising will raise blood pressure. You said she can't lift any thing heavy, but probably some moderated exercise 3-4 days a week would help.

Also, found that these herbs will help raise blood pressure:

* Bitter orange
* Ephedra (ma-huang)
* Ginseng
* Licorice
* St. John's wort

You can find Ginseng and St. John's Wort at basically any health food, supplement place. Could likely find all of them at vitaminshoppe.com or gnc.com


But if it's a neurological problem then I dont know how much supplements would do. How low is her blood pressure and has she ever fainted or anything b/c of it?


Should probably mention to her that blood pressure drops during the first 24 weeks of pregnancy. Just in case she gets any ideas ;)

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sorry to hear about your situation.. I like bitter orange and Ma Huang and a strong cup of coffee., to get a good boost before roadwork . maybe it could help some? .. I would seek the advise of an herbalist. a good Chinese acupuncturist. best of luck JT :coolclick: to everyone posting advise O0

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Thanks for the advice Lords :coolclick: in return .... I will look into this too... I know its not all about :coolclick: 'S but thats all I can offer for you guys as a thanks

Hey man sorry to here this. I'm Scottish so just say the word and I'll source the stuff and send it over. Although that won't get to the bottom of the problem. I'll do some digging around for you and see what's out there. :)

http://www.medicinenet.com/low_blood...re/article.htm

Cure For Low Blood Pressure

nutrition and malnutrition are two most important causes of low blood pressure. Malnutrition arises because of the lack of enough calories, proteins, vitamins B and vitamin C. Some other cause of low blood pressure may include- loss of blood and emotional instability.

Low blood pressure can be treated in various ways. Here are some ways to achieve hypotension cure:

Beetroot
By drinking the juice of beetroot you can control your low blood pressure. For better results, patients are recommend to drink a cup of this juice, twice daily. Considerable improvement is guaranteed.

Indian Spikenard
Indian spikenard is also a very effective home remedy for the treatment of low blood pressure. It is usually taken in doses of thirty to forty grains. Always take a pinch of a little camphor and cinnamon with this herb. Don't miss out on it. You can also prepare the concoction by steeping 15 to 20 gm of the herb in 250 ml of boiling water. Once it is prepared take it thrice a day.

Epsom Salts Bath
It is know as the one of the simplest remedy for treating low blood pressure. It is prepared in the ordinary bath of hot water by dissolving almost one and half kg of commercial Epsom Salt. The patients are advised to remain dipped in the bath for ten to twenty minutes. For best results, it is strongly recommended to be taken just before retiring to bed. And remember, there is a possibility of catching cold so, take care of it.

here you go bro and i wish her the best and cc hope everything works out

Yo JT - might want to check for Lyme Disease ? my sparring partners sister has this and it was mis diagnosed for years. they finally come to the conclusion she had Lyme Disease from a tick bite, Her symptoms was sudden fatigue that never let up . lethargic, no energy , low blood pressure , she was bed ridden at one point . Now she is doing good ., from my understanding. O0

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Yo JT - might want to check for Lyme Disease ? my sparring partners sister has this and it was mis diagnosed for years. they finally come to the conclusion she had Lyme Disease from a tick bite, Her symptoms was sudden fatigue that never let up . lethargic, no energy , low blood pressure , she was bed ridden at one point . Now she is doing good ., from my understanding. O0

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Thanks Lords... I will ask the Doctor about that too

Does she have a low heart rate as well as low blood pressure? I know she's only 20 but have the doctors suggest a pace maker to increase her heart rate and cardiac output?

Don't know if it's related to her sinoatrial node (natural pace maker) or what... just chucking ideas out here... :)

This is probably treatable, but I'd imagine that with it being serious most doctors will shy away from doing anything 'aggressive' to it, especially with her being young.

This may seem obvious mate but has she seen a consultant neurologist?

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yea she has :-\

hey do you have a link to a website or a local store in Scotland that has Licorice specifically made in Scotland.... The doctor said that would be the best stuff ;)

Rock is or have they found a common denominator with these girls any specifics, curios.

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Not to my knowledge... I think the biggest thing they have noticed is that its a specific age group of females 18-27

I've found out some info for you JT. The product you're after is confectionary derived from the licorice plant root - most of the licorice flavoured products in the US are typically flavoured with anise oil. The Scottish connection is probably due to the fact that there has been medical research conducted here in Edinburgh regarding the effects of glycrrhetinic acid - one of the active chemicals in licorice.

There is a Finnish brand which is sold over here in most chemists called Panda which is one of the market leaders made from natural ingredients. It's available in the US also. Here's a link:

http://www.licoriceinternational.com...keyword=+Panda


Another thing you might consider is buying some of the actual root. Here's a link:

http://nccam.nih.gov/health/licoriceroot/

Good luck.

I have no idea bro,but I'll certainly be google searching for you,I'll post any relevant things which I find. Sorry I could not be of more help,I hope everything works out well.

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I've found out some info for you JT. The product you're after is confectionary derived from the licorice plant root - most of the licorice flavoured products in the US are typically flavoured with anise oil. The Scottish connection is probably due to the fact that there has been medical research conducted here in Edinburgh regarding the effects of glycrrhetinic acid - one of the active chemicals in licorice.

There is a Finnish brand which is sold over here in most chemists called Panda which is one of the market leaders made from natural ingredients. It's available in the US also. Here's a link:

http://www.licoriceinternational.com...keyword=+Panda


Another thing you might consider is buying some of the actual root. Here's a link:

http://nccam.nih.gov/health/licoriceroot/

Good luck.

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Thanks for the links MD...... :coolclick: to you

JT,

sorry to hear this news. It must be incredible painful for your parents especially to see their "little girl" (she'll always be that in their eyes) suffer through this.

BigRagu had GREAT advice. Allopathic medicine is just finally starting to realize the value of these old quackerie practices. I would go for spinal adjustments immediately. It certainly can't hurt.

A ton of crap has also been linked to leaky gut. God only knows how though.

She's in my prayers bro.

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JT,

sorry to hear this news. It must be incredible painful for your parents especially to see their "little girl" (she'll always be that in their eyes) suffer through this.

BigRagu had GREAT advice. Allopathic medicine is just finally starting to realize the value of these old quackerie practices. I would go for spinal adjustments immediately. It certainly can't hurt.

A ton of crap has also been linked to leaky gut. God only knows how though.

She's in my prayers bro.

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Thanks Von... Its not very Dramatic but its in everybodys mind... She shows not effects physical wise she is as normal as can be, the pain and frustration lies in the fact that its an unknown about treatments, I mean she could be fine or she can have a stroke no one knows right now :-\

But I call her at college everyday and tell her I love her ;)

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JT,
yo bro i just said a prayer for your lil sis so everything should be ALL TO THE GOOD!

as for advice i just asked my dad and he said def ginseng as well as consulting with a good chinese herbal medicine guru. there are a number of things that a legit chinese herbal expert can suggest and offer.

keep ya head up and keep the vibe around her real positive bro that helps alot too spiritually and psychologically!

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JT,
yo bro i just said a prayer for your lil sis so everything should be ALL TO THE GOOD!

as for advice i just asked my dad and he said def ginseng as well as consulting with a good chinese herbal medicine guru. there are a number of things that a legit chinese herbal expert can suggest and offer.

keep ya head up and keep the vibe around her real positive bro that helps alot too spiritually and psychologically!

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:coolclick: #561 apprecite the prayers, and the suggestion on the Chinese Medicine

We are being upbeat as much as we can, I talk to her every day to make sure she is doing the things the Doctor told her, as far as he diet and stuff... Shewent to the doctor today with severe cramps in her calves.... She drinks alot of water but the body dosent want to retain its vital nutrients :-\

Whats good JT Rock?
So what's the latest on the condition of your sister?
Don't think I've forgotten you and your fam. I've been inlcuding your fam. in my prayers....
I hope all is well.

You've probably heard this before but what about red wine? That's said to have many perks including raising blood pressure. I don't know how signficant the increase is or how fast it works but little remedies like that just might make the difference.

Hey JT,how is everything???? It's been a month since we heard from you my man. :-\

Thanks again guys... She is pretty stable now, but there still isint any clarity of whats going on with her heart, she takes her licorice supplement.

Its been about a month, only because she go's to the doctors once a month, when I have more info I will pass it on... Again words cant describe how much my family I appreciate all of your guy's input and ideas.... Keep them coming ;)

Good to hear your sister's condition is stable now.

You said you're open to anything. There's this healing priest, Fr. Fernando Suarez, here in the Philippines that been making news.
Even Steve Wynn came to see him. Here's some links:

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?StoryID=66063

http://www.google.com.ph/search?hl=t...=Hanapin&meta=

It's just an idea but it's up to you if you just might want to consider letting your sister see Fr. Suarez. Whatever you decide on, I hope everything turns out fine with your sis.