Margarito looking to fight Williiams instead of Cotto- Must Read Article

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I just happened to stumble upon this but WoW, I'm glad I did. I think his pride is getting the best of him. He doesn't want to be thought of as a guy who ducks people or a hypocrite. Not to mention the $1.2 mil he'll get fighting Williams which would be by far his biggest payday. Either way I can't say I'm mad at him cause neither fight is a walk in the park.

Sorry guys. My son accidentally locked the topic on me last time and I had to remove and repost.

WOW, this is a huge story. I can't believe nobody has anything to say.

I will believe it when is signed :deal2:

I wish Margarito all the best . He might not be the most technically sound fighter out there but he keep coming and keeps trying, and usually prevails. I like his determination factor. O0 :coolclick: #90

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Originally Posted by Puya

I will believe it when is signed :deal2:

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I hear you man, but Arum's reaction speaks volumes.

Sounds like Maragrito wants more money... He's trying to do what Oscar did to Floyd.... Owned the negotiations.

I'd like to see Margarito fight Williams. Personally I reckon Tony will own him in a big big way.

Margarito victory with an exhausted and battered Williams slumping to the canvas around Round 11.

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Originally Posted by Jimboogie

Sounds like Maragrito wants more money... He's trying to do what Oscar did to Floyd.... Owned the negotiations.

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Yeah, at first I thought "Wow, I really respect Margarito for doing this" but now that I thought about it I wouldn't be suprised if its just a "threat" for him to earn more $ on a cotto fight.


But if Margarito is serious about taking Williams cause he doesn't want to be thought of as a ducker then I have lots of respect for him for doing that..but cant blame him if he isnt serious. Money first, then pride is how it works in the ring

Maybe Margarito is realizing that Arum's future plans revolve around Cotto and feels slighted. I mean, Arum was pretty clear on who made him proud the night Tony and Cotto shared a card. I think Arum saw something that night that led him to believe Cotto can beat Tony so he doesn't feel like Arum is out to do what's best for him anymore.

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Originally Posted by Bx730NY

Maybe Margarito is realizing that Arum's future plans revolve around Cotto and feels slighted. I mean, Arum was pretty clear on who made him proud the night Tony and Cotto shared a card. I think Arum saw something that night that led him to believe Cotto can beat Tony so he doesn't feel like Arum is out to do what's best for him anymore.

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Really interesting points there CC#91 :)

Makes sense to me....I'd fight Williams instead of Cotto....especially if I'm looking for a fight with De la Hoya or Mayweather Jr.

Cotto is the better boxer, better technical fighter, and he sets up his punches better and honestly does more damage....he may not hit as hard as Paul but he breaks things when he does, ask Gianaluca Branco and Paulie Malinaggi!

Williams is physically impressive but we've seen his lack of defense and a guy like Toni should be able to take advantage of Williams' youth.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Makes sense to me....I'd fight Williams instead of Cotto....especially if I'm looking for a fight with De la Hoya or Mayweather Jr.

Cotto is the better boxer, better technical fighter, and he sets up his punches better and honestly does more damage....he may not hit as hard as Paul but he breaks things when he does, ask Gianaluca Branco and Paulie Malinaggi!

Williams is physically impressive but we've seen his lack of defense and a guy like Toni should be able to take advantage of Williams' youth.

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True on the future/long run outcome about ODLH, PBF makes sense....

Paul might punch harder with the straight punches, but in hooks Cotto takes him all the way..... Take Pauls last fight against Santos Pakau if you notice Pauls punches loose steam in the middle of the rounds.... His punches loose the snap in them and he begins to almost slap his punches he also doesn't follow through with the punches he snaps / bends at the elbow. He doesn't do this the entire round but I saw it happen in every round of the fight. Pakau was there in front of him the whole night (and not to mention caught Paul with some really good hooks to the temple). I'm willing to bet Cotto would have stopped Pakau inside of 4 rds.

I just know that if Tony-Paul comes off we're gonna be in for a real treat....

So what are all the fwocking idiots that said Tony is ducking Paul and TOny this,Tony that now? ::** ::** ::** ::** ::** ::** ::**

Tony DUCKS NO ONE! ;D I think he was pissed at Williams running his mouth >:mad and he was pissed at Arum,becaue Bob thinks just because Cotto had 1 good night at 147, and TONY had 1 bad night,that Cotto will all of a sudden destroy Tony >:mad...big mistake.

I'm going on record now,Margarito is going to beat Williams and beat Cotto. Just like I said Tony was not ducking Paul but haters/ignorant fans/PBF fans who know he ducked Tony said he was.... ::** ???

Margarito is going to be super charged for these fights,I honestly honestly hope Paul keeps running his mouth and because it can only serve to pump this Mexican badass even more.

http://www.fightnews.com/fightnews_2...yZtXGmmYq.html

Manager says Margarito will make mandatory against Williams!(Another link)

Margarito's now ducking Cotto? Smart move. ;D

Seriously though...he stands a better chance of beating Williams than Cotto. Williams (while fun to watch & hits like a mule kicks) is like an open book compared to Cotto.

I'd pick Margarito over Williams due to the experience factor & the fact that he'll come out trying to make a statement by knocking Margarito out & it'll cost him...but I still like Williams better.

I'd pick Tony as well, only seen a knockout highlights clip on youtube but he looks pretty formidable think his opponnets ear got ripped off or somet in one stoppage. Williams looks like he needs s bit more time before going in with the big boys, they were calling him the next Tommy H an stuff on sky but he's a hell of a way of to go before you can even begin to compare.

Naaaa....Tony will take care of Cotto after Williams.Cotto is the tougher fight,the better fighter but Margarito has been a wrecking machine at 147 and the pace he would set for Cotto would be too much. As for Williams,Tony is too savvy for him,and although Paul is the ONLY fighter who can match Tony's output,Tony has been waiting for this for a LONG LONG time,he will be highly motivated,places his punches better and I believe has more power than Paul. And he has fought better fighters than Williams too.

Again.....out go the "Tony ducking ~(insert name)" bullshit I always seem to hear...

Yup! The little G@yweather fans sure are silent now :)

Best of luck to Tony and Cotto ;) and Williams shall be no more!

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Originally Posted by Danny_G

Yup! The little G@yweather fans sure are silent now :)

Best of luck to Tony and Cotto ;) and Williams shall be no more!

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Yes your right.. What with Floyd fighting Baldomir then DLH instead of Tony, Margarito is now making him look silly by taking on two fighters who are so superior to those two. Right?

That isn't to say Tony doesn't deserve credit for fighting Williams if it does come off. I didn't think he wanted to risk the Cotto fight like that, but I guess he probably figures 1.25 million to fight Paul is not that much less than he would probably get vs Cotto, if at all... And he would definetly up his profile going in if he beats Williams. Honestly though, Im not sure he will beat Williams, and I definetly think Cotto will beat him. Don't try and rile Mayweather fans too hard about this, you might look worse in the end, when Tony loses.

I still believe that Paul Williams will whip Margarito something fierce ! hope I'm wrong ! O0

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Naaaa....Tony will take care of Cotto after Williams.Cotto is the tougher fight,the better fighter but Margarito has been a wrecking machine at 147 and the pace he would set for Cotto would be too much. As for Williams,Tony is too savvy for him,and although Paul is the ONLY fighter who can match Tony's output,Tony has been waiting for this for a LONG LONG time,he will be highly motivated,places his punches better and I believe has more power than Paul. And he has fought better fighters than Williams too.

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Completely disagree. Margarito has been a wrecking machine against the opposition that he has faced...not at 147. Margarito's never faced anyone that's as hard of a body puncher as Cotto & the pace that N'dou kept with Cotto was quite a pace.

I don't see him doing any better than that. Cotto's a hell of a lot more dynamic than Margarito. Look at Margarito's last fight...he lucked out there. Cotto would be too much for Margarito, IWO.

As far as Williams goes...I believe that he has more power than Paul Williams...but I don't know that he'll be able to keep up with Williams if he catches the upper hand. I still think that in the end...it'll be ring experience & it's going to hamper Williams quite a bit.

I could be wrong...he could shock me & blast Margarito out...but I don't see it.

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Again.....out go the "Tony ducking ~(insert name)" bullshit I always seem to hear...

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I'm glad that he manned up to the test...too bad he's ducking Cotto now. Heh heh heh.

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Originally Posted by Danny_G

Yup! The little G@yweather fans sure are silent now :)

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Silent? About what? Mayweather fans have never been silent nor had a reason to.

Oscar is the fight that Floyd & the majority of his fans have often wanted to see...that or Mosley...not Margarito.

Let Cotto & Williams have Margarito. Those fights would be half ass competitive for Margarito.

Floyd presses him like a part of cotton slacks.

Way off Wack,to compare the pace Ndou kept to the pace Tony keeps is a terrible analogy. Tony throws power punch after power punch,he's a tornado of power punches. Although he showed his versatility v the bigger banger,Cintron where he was more selective.And TOny's much bigger than Cotto too. And Tony has been at 147 most of his life and wrecked opponents.

And there's no such thing as "luck",come on dude,thats ridiculous..what luck was there? Tony was injured too and I don't remember Clottey saying Tony was lucky. Oh yeah,Tony was "injured" to duck Williams ::** ::** ::**

Tony looked AWFUL v Clottey but he showed heart,determination and grit and when you open the history books,it won't say anything about luck,it'll say Margarito with a W over Clottey(Someone else he was ducking ::** ::** ::** )

Cotto is far more dynamic than Tony but then again,so are most of Margarito's opponents but he takes their hearts,outworks them,shows unmatched toughness.

Yeah,we'll see where Floyd goes after he beats Oscar,especially if Collazo beats Shane.

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

Margarito's now ducking Cotto? Smart move. ;D

Seriously though...he stands a better chance of beating Williams than Cotto. Williams (while fun to watch & hits like a mule kicks) is like an open book compared to Cotto.

I'd pick Margarito over Williams due to the experience factor & the fact that he'll come out trying to make a statement by knocking Margarito out & it'll cost him...but I still like Williams better.

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you're starting to sound like Starr & PGH, when you say 1 outcome and end your post with "But I like so and so better" ;D
(I know what you meant)
And I agree Tonys chances are better against Paul then Cotto.

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Way off Wack,to compare the pace Ndou kept to the pace Tony keeps is a terrible analogy. Tony throws power punch after power punch,he's a tornado of power punches. Although he showed his versatility v the bigger banger,Cintron where he was more selective.And TOny's much bigger than Cotto too. And Tony has been at 147 most of his life and wrecked opponents.

And there's no such thing as "luck",come on dude,thats ridiculous..what luck was there? Tony was injured too and I don't remember Clottey saying Tony was lucky. Oh yeah,Tony was "injured" to duck Williams ::** ::** ::**

Tony looked AWFUL v Clottey but he showed heart,determination and grit and when you open the history books,it won't say anything about luck,it'll say Margarito with a W over Clottey(Someone else he was ducking ::** ::** ::** )

Cotto is far more dynamic than Tony but then again,so are most of Margarito's opponents but he takes their hearts,outworks them,shows unmatched toughness.

Yeah,we'll see where Floyd goes after he beats Oscar,especially if Collazo beats Shane.

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Agree on this here..... Nicely put.....

Williams isn't ready for Margarito. Margarito is going to win this easy and then rehype himself just like he did for Cintron. I'd respect him more for fighting Cotto.

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Way off Wack,to compare the pace Ndou kept to the pace Tony keeps is a terrible analogy. Tony throws power punch after power punch,he's a tornado of power punches.

- that's way off in itself Gamo.. Why isn't it a fair analogy?? N'dou is a relentless puncher just like you describe your boy. He's smaller no doubt, but that was Cotto a couple years ago who fought him, to say he hasn't improved or bulked up is ridiculous.. All Wacko brought that up for, I think, was to indicate that Cotto has gone 12 very hard rounds before, it's not like it would be foreign ground for him...

And there's no such thing as "luck",come on dude,thats ridiculous..what luck was there? Tony was injured too and I don't remember Clottey saying Tony was lucky. Oh yeah,Tony was "injured" to duck Williams ::** ::** ::**

- Ok, maybe you can't call it luck, but answer me, do you think that if Clottey hadn't injured his hand Tony would have won that fight? Do you think it's reasonable to expect Cotto to break his hand against him? Not unless he breaks tony's face along with it.

Tony looked AWFUL v Clottey but he showed heart,determination and grit and when you open the history books,it won't say anything about luck,it'll say Margarito with a W over Clottey(Someone else he was ducking ::** ::** ::** )

- That I'll agree with 100%. Especially the Tony looking awful part.

Cotto is far more dynamic than Tony but then again,so are most of Margarito's opponents but he takes their hearts,outworks them,shows unmatched toughness.

- None of Tony's opponents save for perhaps a couple have been dynamic at all, much less moreso than him.. Least imo. Maybe Im forgetting some of these guys on Cotto's level that he's fought.

Yeah,we'll see where Floyd goes after he beats Oscar,especially if Collazo beats Shane.

- Either way it won't be wasting his time on a guy who just got beaten to a pulp by Miguel Cotto.

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I like the fact that he may be fighting Williams. It shows that he is a serious fighter who doesn't want to be remembered for ducking anyone but I also like it because I'm really curious to see what Paul is made of. As far as a Cotto fight goes, I think Cotto wins. Although Tony has a great chin, that not gonna help him when he's getting pounded to the body. Tony has an unrivaled workrate as well, but again, the body shots will slow that down IMO. I'm not saying he can't beat Cotto but I am saying that I don't think he will. I agree with El Gamo too about Tony taking guys' hearts aaway with his workrate but From what I've seen out of Cotto, I don't think anything in the ring is gonna scare or discourage him.

Alot of good points on the thread though. Keep up the good work.

Mick & Gamo...cool your jet's. ::**

You girls always expect me to just sit there & take all your critique of Mayweather & not get all broken up over it...& when I start pulling Gamo's chain (which is what I was doing :P ) you get your pannies tied up around your ankles.

Just playing girls.

Here's the thing...I weren't fwockin about regarding Cotto. Cotto will beat him & the pace that Cotto was taken to with N'dou proves that he can sustain a batter such as that.

...and that was at 140 where Miguel was weight drained!

That being said...Margarito was lucky against Clottey...sorry...but he was.

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Originally Posted by Majesty

Williams isn't ready for Margarito. Margarito is going to win this easy and then rehype himself just like he did for Cintron. I'd respect him more for fighting Cotto.

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Thing is...I'd rather him fight Williams & shut him up & then go on to fight Cotto & have his ass handed to him.

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Originally Posted by Majesty

Williams isn't ready for Margarito. Margarito is going to win this easy and then rehype himself just like he did for Cintron. I'd respect him more for fighting Cotto.

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Thing is...I'd rather him fight Williams & shut him up & then go on to fight Cotto & have his ass handed to him.

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Yeah but all that would do is put that "Greatest 147 pounder nobody wants to fight label on him" AGAIN!!! And its repetitive in my opinion man. I know Williams aint ready, but 9 out of 10 boxing sites will say Margarito beat the best 147 pounder out there next to him and etc etc ::**

....but then that label would be passed to Cotto as Toni will no doubt be stopped

Cotto and Tony wouldn't fight if Tony beat Williams(which he would)

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Originally Posted by Majesty

Cotto and Tony wouldn't fight if Tony beat Williams(which he would)

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I think Williams will stomp Tony pretty easy ! Tony has a lot of heart. but I predict a one sided 12 R dec victory for Williams. maybe even a late Round stoppage. Margarito gets hit with every thing you throw his way, and he is super super slow for a 147 lb fighter !

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

Margarito's now ducking Cotto? Smart move. ;D

Seriously though...he stands a better chance of beating Williams than Cotto. Williams (while fun to watch & hits like a mule kicks) is like an open book compared to Cotto.

I'd pick Margarito over Williams due to the experience factor & the fact that he'll come out trying to make a statement by knocking Margarito out & it'll cost him...but I still like Williams better.

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Posts like this makes it easy for me no to type that much he just read my mind.

Bottom line is this, If Margarito fights either guy, we're in for a treat.

This has fight of the year written all over it. I am almost wanting to see this matchup more than Mayweather-De La Hoya because it should be a brawl. Hope it gets signed.

I’m gonna have to go back on myself here.

At first I thought it was a good idea to fight Williams 1st as it would silence those who say he was ducking Williams etc.

But that’s just silly.

Besides, if Margarito fought Williams and beat him. I fear that he'd be made to wait a hell of a long wait to fight Arums Baby Boi Cotto.

Then again, one way or another Margarito is looking at a considerable long spell of inactivity & flack as Cotto is fighting soon and Margarito would have to wait for Cotto anyway.


Ah sod this, Margarito should just wipe the floor with Williams, put chills up Arums pants and just try and make fights with either Collazo or Mosley (his no.2 and 3).

Then Cotto might be available.




Were does Mayweather fit into all this...
I think he gets beat by Dela Hoya and either tries to make fights with Mosley/Collazo/Hatton or retires.

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

So what are all the fwocking idiots that said Tony is ducking Paul and TOny this,Tony that now? ::** ::** ::** ::** ::** ::** ::**

Tony DUCKS NO ONE! ;D I think he was pissed at Williams running his mouth >:mad and he was pissed at Arum,becaue Bob thinks just because Cotto had 1 good night at 147, and TONY had 1 bad night,that Cotto will all of a sudden destroy Tony >:mad...big mistake.

I'm going on record now,Margarito is going to beat Williams and beat Cotto. Just like I said Tony was not ducking Paul but haters/ignorant fans/PBF fans who know he ducked Tony said he was.... ::** ???

Margarito is going to be super charged for these fights,I honestly honestly hope Paul keeps running his mouth and because it can only serve to pump this Mexican badass even more.

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Sure, you say that now that Margarito has been backed into a corner. In all honesty, I think it was more Arum than Margarito wanting to drop the belt. I think Arum probably is using him as a buffer to make other fighters look good. Cotto will beat him. But a loss to Williams before hand could either keep the fight from happening or put fewer pennies in Arum's pocket so he was playing the odds.

And I do think Williams is going to win. Two piss-poor defenses, it'll be survival of the chinnest.