Has Witter officially lost his mind???

In this latest bit about witter and hatton, witter talkes about a fight with him and hatton being bigger than hatton v castillo, that he, witter is the biggest on the world stage who hatotn can fight lol!

He talks as if there was a sniff that hatton would be interested in a fight with him, the "now or never" when hatton has already said never ever!

I think this guy needs to retire and check into an MRI 'coz his head seems ot be clearly fucked.

WBC light welterweight champion Junior Witter has warned IBF title holder Ricky Hatton that it is now or never if the British pair are to fight.
"There is a window of opportunity, but if we are not careful we are going to miss it. If we're going to meet, it has to be this summer," said Witter, 32.

"Nothing else makes sense for Hatton apart from this, unless he is scared.

"I am a British fighter holding the WBC belt. The most prestigious belt. A belt he has never won."

Bradford boxer Witter has been chasing the showdown for years, but Hatton is set to fight Jose Luis Castillo next. Read more...

Hatton Witter is a more prestigious and competetive fight than Hatton Castillo.

Witter holds a genuine world belt and beat a genuine world class fighter in his last fight for it and a couple of fights ago he beat Lovemore Ndou more convincing than anyone and put him down a couple of times to boot

A couple of fights ago Castillo was getting stopped by a lightweight

Castillo hasnt got the strength or awkwardness to handle Hatton at his age, why dyou think that they chose him as his first big name fight in America

Someone well known that will stand in front of Ricky

Witter's talking shit, he's been after this fight for 5 years, begging for it time and time again, and he'll get it whenever Ricky Hatton decides he wants to give it him. Hatton is the one in the driving position as far as this fight is concerned.

witter should go and beat some decent opposition and gain a bigger profile in the states. then the fight may happen.
if witter beats someone like d-hop or vivian harris maybe hatton will take the fight.

Change the record Junior. We KNOW you're available ::**

I don't see what's so laugable about a world champion calling out another one in the division... What is this BS?? Like he shouldn't be able to make a sound about Hatton because he's so inferior to anyone Ricky has been fighting recently?? PLEASE. Urango, and now looks like N'dou(who Witter beat ::**), are Hatton's first 2 opponents since returning to 140.. Witter is way better than either of them at this stage and would have been a far better and bigger affair. It's laughable to think that Hatton couldn't have fought him instead of either one of those guys in terms of what it would do for his profile. People get so obsessed with the fact that he's supposedly still trying to conquer America.. Well, Urango and N'dou aren't American, nor are they known entitys in the states, at least no more than Witter. Yes Castillo is a higher profile fight, that's obvious.. But now it looks like Ricky isn't even pursuing that bout, at least no until some after the summer or some BS. I don't think anyone here could say truthfully that Witter wouldn't have been a much better opponent then anyone he has ever fought except KT(at least at 140), and yet people laugh it up when he want's to fight him and praise Hatton for not giving him the time of day. How logical.

"Now or never?" He must know Rick is fighting Castillo in the summer, the prat.

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Hatton Witter is a more prestigious and competetive fight than Hatton Castillo.

Witter holds a genuine world belt and beat a genuine world class fighter in his last fight for it and a couple of fights ago he beat Lovemore Ndou more convincing than anyone and put him down a couple of times to boot

A couple of fights ago Castillo was getting stopped by a lightweight

Castillo hasnt got the strength or awkwardness to handle Hatton at his age, why dyou think that they chose him as his first big name fight in America

Someone well known that will stand in front of Ricky

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Castillo was getting stopped by a lightweight, that was considered one of the hardest punching p4p fighters in the world.

Witter has a mind ? New one on me lol
So i wud say no he hasnt lost it , never had 1 .
Wish he wud just let his fists do the talking instead of his mouth.

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Hatton Witter is a more prestigious and competetive fight than Hatton Castillo.

Witter holds a genuine world belt and beat a genuine world class fighter in his last fight for it and a couple of fights ago he beat Lovemore Ndou more convincing than anyone and put him down a couple of times to boot

A couple of fights ago Castillo was getting stopped by a lightweight

Castillo hasnt got the strength or awkwardness to handle Hatton at his age, why dyou think that they chose him as his first big name fight in America

Someone well known that will stand in front of Ricky

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Who is this 'genuine world class fighter' that witter fought and beat in his last fight??

Has witter fought someone else since January 20th ??? ??? ???

Few days ago Hattons mob were talking the possibility of fighting the winner of N'dou-Rabah. Seeing as N'dou is a Witter victim it's hardly surprising Witters mob took the opportunity to call Hatton out yet again.

Witter is currently one of the top men at 140. It's wrong for him to want THE top man?

I know he’s just had his annual ‘s**t shirt’ competition, but perhaps it should have been ‘s**t pants’ instead, as he would have won that hands down this year. That’s all he seems to do when my name is mentioned.”

And thats funny ;D

hahaha ;D
Like that ;D
Witter just wants a big payday before he hangs em up and i still think he would give Ricky huge problems with his style if they got it on anytime this year.
Can't see it at all though :)

Maybe LOSING to Witter (Hattons worst nightmare?) is too big of a chance to take. ;)

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Hatton Witter is a more prestigious and competetive fight than Hatton Castillo.

Witter holds a genuine world belt and beat a genuine world class fighter in his last fight for it and a couple of fights ago he beat Lovemore Ndou more convincing than anyone and put him down a couple of times to boot

A couple of fights ago Castillo was getting stopped by a lightweight

Castillo hasnt got the strength or awkwardness to handle Hatton at his age, why dyou think that they chose him as his first big name fight in America

Someone well known that will stand in front of Ricky

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He beat N'Dou by scores of 115-111 and 114-112 so in reality (the world i'm living in...not yours) the fight was very close and the knockdowns saved Witter. Mitchell and Cotto both won by wider margins.

Hatton wins all but one round agaisnt Urango but everyone says the fight was very close yet Witter falls apart over the last 5 rounds against N'Dou and his win is called 'convicning'. I don't think so somehow!

He fell apart from round 6 onwards against Colin Lynes and Andreas Kotelnik for god's sake. A win against a shot Corley does not make you World Class even if the fight was for the WBC belt. Corley had just come off a win over Johnny Walker. A 12-0 JOhn Murray (another manchester fighter) whooped him more convincingly than Corley did.

To say Witter is a bigger name than Castillo suggests to me that you are infact a circus clown. 1st off nobody lost in that Corrales fight. They both fucking won. If Corrales had kept his gumshield in Castillo probably would have finished it. Castillo was extremely tight at lightweight, that's why he couldn't make that weight anymore. Corrales is moving up to 147. Have you ever seen a Castillo fight?

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I don't see what's so laugable about a world champion calling out another one in the division... What is this BS?? Like he shouldn't be able to make a sound about Hatton because he's so inferior to anyone Ricky has been fighting recently?? PLEASE. Urango, and now looks like N'dou(who Witter beat ::**), are Hatton's first 2 opponents since returning to 140.. Witter is way better than either of them at this stage and would have been a far better and bigger affair. It's laughable to think that Hatton couldn't have fought him instead of either one of those guys in terms of what it would do for his profile. People get so obsessed with the fact that he's supposedly still trying to conquer America.. Well, Urango and N'dou aren't American, nor are they known entitys in the states, at least no more than Witter. Yes Castillo is a higher profile fight, that's obvious.. But now it looks like Ricky isn't even pursuing that bout, at least no until some after the summer or some BS. I don't think anyone here could say truthfully that Witter wouldn't have been a much better opponent then anyone he has ever fought except KT(at least at 140), and yet people laugh it up when he want's to fight him and praise Hatton for not giving him the time of day. How logical.

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Your posting this purely on the basis of seeing Junior Witter beating N'Dou or Corley??????
Believe me Witter would not beat Luis Collazo. I'm not sure he would beat Juan Urango to be honest.
He really isn't that good. He has ok power and he's awkward and his reflexes are ok. Don't think his chin has really been tested and he would fold against any decent fighter who applies pressure. You need to do more than Scrape a win against Colin Lynes and Andreas Kotelnik to be labelled as the biggest threat to Ricky Hatton at 140. He needs to show more than a big mouth to make it a super fight.

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I don't see what's so laugable about a world champion calling out another one in the division... What is this BS?? Like he shouldn't be able to make a sound about Hatton because he's so inferior to anyone Ricky has been fighting recently?? PLEASE. Urango, and now looks like N'dou(who Witter beat ::**), are Hatton's first 2 opponents since returning to 140.. Witter is way better than either of them at this stage and would have been a far better and bigger affair. It's laughable to think that Hatton couldn't have fought him instead of either one of those guys in terms of what it would do for his profile. People get so obsessed with the fact that he's supposedly still trying to conquer America.. Well, Urango and N'dou aren't American, nor are they known entitys in the states, at least no more than Witter. Yes Castillo is a higher profile fight, that's obvious.. But now it looks like Ricky isn't even pursuing that bout, at least no until some after the summer or some BS. I don't think anyone here could say truthfully that Witter wouldn't have been a much better opponent then anyone he has ever fought except KT(at least at 140), and yet people laugh it up when he want's to fight him and praise Hatton for not giving him the time of day. How logical.

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Your posting this purely on the basis of seeing Junior Witter beating N'Dou or Corley??????
Believe me Witter would not beat Luis Collazo. I'm not sure he would beat Juan Urango to be honest.
He really isn't that good. He has ok power and he's awkward and his reflexes are ok. Don't think his chin has really been tested and he would fold against any decent fighter who applies pressure. You need to do more than Scrape a win against Colin Lynes and Andreas Kotelnik to be labelled as the biggest threat to Ricky Hatton at 140. He needs to show more than a big mouth to make it a super fight.

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No, maybe Witter wouldn't beat COllazo, but neither would Hatton again at 147, imo.. As far as Urango, if you really think Witter couldn't beat him I have to question you a little bit. Did you ever see Urango lose to Ben Rabah?? Rabah fights a bit like Witter, and Jr. has the perfect style to beat Urango, Juan couldn't even do anything against Hatton when Ricky didn't take a step back, but he is even far worse fighting guys that can fight off the back foot or use good movement. Also I don't know who said Hatton vs Urango was close, boring yes, but not close. Urango won 1 round, and the last 4 may as well not have happened therre was so much clinching. So I guess Witter isn't the only one who's faded late in fights.. But as far as this goes, I just don't see why he doesn't deserve a shot at Hatton, or why Ricky couldn't have fought him say instead of Urango.. He does have the WBC belt and he beat a better fighter for it than Urango did for his belt. Also I realize he slipped a bit over the last 6 against N'dou, but the fact that he still won a UD while basically giving away 4 or 5 rounds(or maybe tiring, Ill give you that) just shows that he really did handle N'dou well early on. Lovemore is a tough SOB, and though Mitchell and Cotto beat him I don't think either of them ever dropped him or had him in any trouble like Witter did early. Anyways, it basically comes down to if Hatton is going to fight Castillo in June, fine.. If not, I think he should give Witter this fight, and many would agree I'll bet. At least rather than he fight N'dou...

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I don't see what's so laugable about a world champion calling out another one in the division... What is this BS?? Like he shouldn't be able to make a sound about Hatton because he's so inferior to anyone Ricky has been fighting recently?? PLEASE. Urango, and now looks like N'dou(who Witter beat ::**), are Hatton's first 2 opponents since returning to 140.. Witter is way better than either of them at this stage and would have been a far better and bigger affair. It's laughable to think that Hatton couldn't have fought him instead of either one of those guys in terms of what it would do for his profile. People get so obsessed with the fact that he's supposedly still trying to conquer America.. Well, Urango and N'dou aren't American, nor are they known entitys in the states, at least no more than Witter. Yes Castillo is a higher profile fight, that's obvious.. But now it looks like Ricky isn't even pursuing that bout, at least no until some after the summer or some BS. I don't think anyone here could say truthfully that Witter wouldn't have been a much better opponent then anyone he has ever fought except KT(at least at 140), and yet people laugh it up when he want's to fight him and praise Hatton for not giving him the time of day. How logical.

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Your posting this purely on the basis of seeing Junior Witter beating N'Dou or Corley??????
Believe me Witter would not beat Luis Collazo. I'm not sure he would beat Juan Urango to be honest.
He really isn't that good. He has ok power and he's awkward and his reflexes are ok. Don't think his chin has really been tested and he would fold against any decent fighter who applies pressure. You need to do more than Scrape a win against Colin Lynes and Andreas Kotelnik to be labelled as the biggest threat to Ricky Hatton at 140. He needs to show more than a big mouth to make it a super fight.

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No, maybe Witter wouldn't beat COllazo, but neither would Hatton again at 147, imo.. As far as Urango, if you really think Witter couldn't beat him I have to question you a little bit. Did you ever see Urango lose to Ben Rabah?? Rabah fights a bit like Witter, and Jr. has the perfect style to beat Urango, Juan couldn't even do anything against Hatton when Ricky didn't take a step back, but he is even far worse fighting guys that can fight off the back foot or use good movement. Also I don't know who said Hatton vs Urango was close, boring yes, but not close. Urango won 1 round, and the last 4 may as well not have happened therre was so much clinching. So I guess Witter isn't the only one who's faded late in fights.. But as far as this goes, I just don't see why he doesn't deserve a shot at Hatton, or why Ricky couldn't have fought him say instead of Urango.. He does have the WBC belt and he beat a better fighter for it than Urango did for his belt. Also I realize he slipped a bit over the last 6 against N'dou, but the fact that he still won a UD while basically giving away 4 or 5 rounds(or maybe tiring, Ill give you that) just shows that he really did handle N'dou well early on. Lovemore is a tough SOB, and though Mitchell and Cotto beat him I don't think either of them ever dropped him or had him in any trouble like Witter did early. Anyways, it basically comes down to if Hatton is going to fight Castillo in June, fine.. If not, I think he should give Witter this fight, and many would agree I'll bet. At least rather than he fight N'dou...

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Yeh good posting. I do agree with ya that a fight with Witter should happen but not at the expense of a fight with Castillo. Thing is Witer has made his name off the back of slating Hatton at every oppurtunity. He's never done anything in the ring to justify his big mouth. I didn't agree with Hatton fighting Urango so maybe a Witter fight should have happened there tho. I think the oppurtunity has gone.

Yea, have a CC good posting yourself. The oppourtunity is most likely gone for sure, If Hatton was remotely interested in fighting Witter I think he would have tried to take his WBC title instead of fighting Urango on his return to 140. But, I just don't like the way alot of people slate Witter for simply wanting to fight Hatton.. It's ridiculous. He has a world championship belt, and is really the only other recognized title holder at jr. welter right now.. Im seriously drawing a blank as to who besides he or Hatton even hold titles.. Witter does need to try and do something else assming Rick doesn't want the fight soon though. I thought there was a decent chance he could have fought Corrales on the Hatton Castillo undercard, there was talk of that.. It's slim pickings for either man at the moment though.. 140 isn't exactly as stacked as it was a year ago... Besides Castillo, what else could Hatton do that would be a bigger fight than Witter, without moving up to welter??

I think a big part of the reason Ricky doesnt want to fight Witter is that Ricky is a gentleman who doesnt slag off any boxer, rather admires the talent in every opponent. Witter has been very offensive and rude, and so Ricky doesnt want him to get any money - simple as that. I know you will say well Maywaether has been rude also, well Mayweather brings more to the table than Witter LOL (by a million miles) so I guess Ricky feels he can overlook the shortcomings in his case!

Is it fair to say that they just dont get on? ??? ??

I mean I have time for both of these guys, its not often in this sport where a yorkshireman is the WBC champ and a mancunian is the IBF & Linear champion, and they should fight, but face facts, Hatton's the success story, the exciting undefeated one, Junior Witter has spent most of his career fighting in tiny venues in the middle of nowhere. Hatton is kid dynamite, all-action throwing punches constantly in-yer-face Hatton. Witter is the awkward and skilful guy who gives people nightmares but doesn't look good. Who do you think the negotiating power is gonna lie with in that fight? Hatton is a major international name now, Witter's made progress over the last few years but he's been left standing behind what Ricky Hatton's accomplished.

Besides, I still think there's 3 or so years before its too late for this fight to happen, Witter would be prepared to fight him at 36 coz lets face it he's desperate, Hatton might want to shut this boy up before he retires and do him at 32. Are those ages right btw? There's plenty of time for this fight to come I think. So don't panic.

Hatton needs to fight a few of the big name US fighters before he does anything. I'm talking Miguel Cotto, Floyd Mayweather, Shane Mosley/Luis Collazo, Antonio Margarito, someone who's gonna get him respect. If he beats Castillo and then goes on an fights Floyd Mayweather, win or lose, the Junior Witter fight can happen. 2 fights, 12 months from now.

In the meantime Witter would do himself many favours by defending his title against someone good in the WBC rankings. Dont let this boy feast on Easten European no-bodies, make him work for his place. In those 12 months while Ricky's fighting Castillo and Mayweather, Witter can defend against guys like Herman Ngoudjo, Vivian Harris, Juan Lazcano, Demetrius Hopkins and earn some respect over in America so this fight can happen.

The biggest obstacle to this fight is that since beating Kostya Tsyzu, Ricky Hatton is a world-wide deal. Witter - Hatton would be a big fight in the UK, but it'd be a flop for the US networks because Witter has no name amongst US boxing fans. If he can sort that out, and to be fair beating N'Dou and Corley has helped, then the fight can happen.

And for the record I think Ricky Hatton brings too much aggression into the fight for Witter to deal with. Witter is sometimes lazy in the ring, Hatton does let people settle for even a second. Ricky is also a very good boxer, watch the first 5 rounds of Hatton - Urango for proof, so dont be fooled into thinking Witter could ease past him with pure boxing coz thats not Ricky's weakness. It'd be an interesting fight but I'd bet money on Hatton winning.

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Yea, have a CC good posting yourself. The oppourtunity is most likely gone for sure, If Hatton was remotely interested in fighting Witter I think he would have tried to take his WBC title instead of fighting Urango on his return to 140. But, I just don't like the way alot of people slate Witter for simply wanting to fight Hatton.. It's ridiculous. He has a world championship belt, and is really the only other recognized title holder at jr. welter right now.. Im seriously drawing a blank as to who besides he or Hatton even hold titles.. Witter does need to try and do something else assming Rick doesn't want the fight soon though. I thought there was a decent chance he could have fought Corrales on the Hatton Castillo undercard, there was talk of that.. It's slim pickings for either man at the moment though.. 140 isn't exactly as stacked as it was a year ago... Besides Castillo, what else could Hatton do that would be a bigger fight than Witter, without moving up to welter??

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Yeh 140 is nowhere near what it was about 12-18 month ago. No Cotto, Mayweather, Gatti or Tszyu. There's nothing wrong with a world champion calling out another world champion but up until this point Witter has never had a case for fighting Hatton. It's been about as legitimate as somebody like Kermit Cintron calling out Floyd Mayweather if you get what i mean. IMO Hatton should stay at 140 because 147 guys are to big for him. Far too big maybe with the exception of Mayweather. So at 140 you basically do only have Castillo who is anywhere near pound for pound worthy. So Witter should now be considered as well as maybe Corrales if he dunt go to 147. Maybe the winner of Lazcano vs Harris but even them guys would be a step back. So to conclude from me, Witter should now be a viable option for Hatton but i can understand his reasons for not wanting to give him the oppurtunity.

CC Sovereign, you make alot of good points about the two, especially with regard to Witter defending against someone high in the WBC rankings. The one thing I disagree with is how much of an international star you make Hatton out to be.. He's just trying to name a name for himself in the states now, he's not there yet. And yet in the same respect that goes right along with your arguement as to why he wouldn't benefit from fighting Witter, who hasn't tried to do the same thing. BUT, one more Juan Urango or Carlos Maussa, or rather if he doesn't fight CAstillo next, I see no excuse as to why this fight shouldn't have already happened. If you think for one second either of his last two opponents were high profile American fighters that people knew in general, it's simply not true. Witter could have subbed in for either one of those guys and it would have gathered more interest. Over half the crowd each time was Brit's who made the trip over anyways, you think that the total interest wouldn't increase if it was a Hatton Witter fight? Besides that it's all up to HBO, if it's a unification fight televised people will watch it...

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CC Sovereign, you make alot of good points about the two, especially with regard to Witter defending against someone high in the WBC rankings. The one thing I disagree with is how much of an international star you make Hatton out to be.. He's just trying to name a name for himself in the states now, he's not there yet. And yet in the same respect that goes right along with your arguement as to why he wouldn't benefit from fighting Witter, who hasn't tried to do the same thing. BUT, one more Juan Urango or Carlos Maussa, or rather if he doesn't fight CAstillo next, I see no excuse as to why this fight shouldn't have already happened. If you think for one second either of his last two opponents were high profile American fighters that people knew in general, it's simply not true. Witter could have subbed in for either one of those guys and it would have gathered more interest. Over half the crowd each time was Brit's who made the trip over anyways, you think that the total interest wouldn't increase if it was a Hatton Witter fight? Besides that it's all up to HBO, if it's a unification fight televised people will watch it...

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I completely agree with you there. If he dunt get Castillo next then there is no excuse apart from pettyness. I doubt he could get Witter this year anyway because he'l have an obligation to fight either Lazcano or Harris right??
Basically if he doesn't get Castillo in June he won't be fighting Witter this year. I believe Witter's next fight to be Diego Corrales or is that no longer the case?

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CC Sovereign, you make alot of good points about the two, especially with regard to Witter defending against someone high in the WBC rankings. The one thing I disagree with is how much of an international star you make Hatton out to be.. He's just trying to name a name for himself in the states now, he's not there yet. And yet in the same respect that goes right along with your arguement as to why he wouldn't benefit from fighting Witter, who hasn't tried to do the same thing. BUT, one more Juan Urango or Carlos Maussa, or rather if he doesn't fight CAstillo next, I see no excuse as to why this fight shouldn't have already happened. If you think for one second either of his last two opponents were high profile American fighters that people knew in general, it's simply not true. Witter could have subbed in for either one of those guys and it would have gathered more interest. Over half the crowd each time was Brit's who made the trip over anyways, you think that the total interest wouldn't increase if it was a Hatton Witter fight? Besides that it's all up to HBO, if it's a unification fight televised people will watch it...

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I completely agree with you there. If he dunt get Castillo next then there is no excuse apart from pettyness. I doubt he could get Witter this year anyway because he'l have an obligation to fight either Lazcano or Harris right??
Basically if he doesn't get Castillo in June he won't be fighting Witter this year. I believe Witter's next fight to be Diego Corrales or is that no longer the case?

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Well yeah that's what I had heard but I think recently Corrales announced he was going straight up to 147(stupid move), so I guess it won't. I don't know if Witter will have to fight the Lazcano Harris winner or not.. Personally I think he should fight Herman Ngoudjou, who is still the #2 ranked WBC fighhter I believe... But I guess that's more just me wanting to see him beat a good young fighter then anything else. Is the Harris lazcano fight an eliminatoir for Witters belt?? I think really the only important thing Witter needs to focus on is getting a fight in the states on HBO. If he could fight the winner of that match on a televised undercard it would make it infinitely more likely that Hatton would fight him. Assuming he could impress I guess..