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Trinidad Vs De La Hoya 2 back in 2000. What would have happened?
We alway's talk about the fight, and who we think won, but what would have happened if they fought again, it could have been totally different. SOUND OFF YOU BLOODY FANATICS.
Trinidad KO in 6
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Re: Trinidad Vs De La Hoya 2 back in 2000. What would have happened?
At what weight class??
Their first fight was at 147, but right after that Tito moved up to 154.
If they fought a rematch at 154, I think Tito wins. He was a better fighter at 154 than 147. He didn't have to kill himself to make weight.
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Re: Trinidad Vs De La Hoya 2 back in 2000. What would have happened?
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
At what weight class??
Their first fight was at 147, but right after that Tito moved up to 154.
If they fought a rematch at 154, I think Tito wins. He was a better fighter at 154 than 147. He didn't have to kill himself to make weight.
I agree. But the fight would have took place at 154 because Tito could no longer make wieght at 147. But he was just as killer at 154 as he was at 147, I would not say better because Tito set the record for WW title defenses.
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Re: Trinidad Vs De La Hoya 2 back in 2000. What would have happened?
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Originally Posted by brazilianbomber
We alway's talk about the fight, and who we think won, but what would have happened if they fought again, it could have been totally different. SOUND OFF YOU BLOODY FANATICS.
Trinidad KO in 6
i disagree totally oscar was giving tito boxing lesson until he run last few rounds oscar by ud making sure of victory this time
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Originally Posted by brazilianbomber
We alway's talk about the fight, and who we think won, but what would have happened if they fought again, it could have been totally different. SOUND OFF YOU BLOODY FANATICS.
Trinidad KO in 6
i disagree totally oscar was giving tito boxing lesson until he run last few rounds oscar by ud making sure of victory this time
That boxing lesson did nothing to Trinidad, it did not stop him from coming forward, he was never hurt, stunned, or wobbled. Besides Trinidad was a notoriously late started in his career, and he had a opponent that took away 1/3 of the fight from him by running due to fatigue. Besides David Reid was giving a boxing lesson to Tito through 6 rounds and he ended up taking such a beating that he never was the same and retired a year after.
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Re: Trinidad Vs De La Hoya 2 back in 2000. What would have happened?
Is this Tito with or without the illegal handwraps? :D
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Re: Trinidad Vs De La Hoya 2 back in 2000. What would have happened?
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
Is this Tito with or without the illegal handwraps? :D
If handwraps made you punch like that everyone would due it. Hell, I would even due it in my street fights.
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Re: Trinidad Vs De La Hoya 2 back in 2000. What would have happened?
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
Is this Tito with or without the illegal handwraps? :D
Ahhh, I always know a bitter DLH fan when I see one ;) ;)
Would this fight use the DLH-Whitaker and DLH-Quartey judges?
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Re: Trinidad Vs De La Hoya 2 back in 2000. What would have happened?
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Originally Posted by brazilianbomber
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
Is this Tito with or without the illegal handwraps? :D
If handwraps made you punch like that everyone would due it. Hell, I would even due it in my street fights.
Well, everyone doesn't do it cause theie guidelines you have to follow and not to mention it's
ILLEGAL!!!!!
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Re: Trinidad Vs De La Hoya 2 back in 2000. What would have happened?
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Originally Posted by brazilianbomber
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by brazilianbomber
We alway's talk about the fight, and who we think won, but what would have happened if they fought again, it could have been totally different. SOUND OFF YOU BLOODY FANATICS.
Trinidad KO in 6
i disagree totally oscar was giving tito boxing lesson until he run last few rounds oscar by ud making sure of victory this time
That boxing lesson did nothing to Trinidad, it did not stop him from coming forward, he was never hurt, stunned, or wobbled. Besides Trinidad was a notoriously late started in his career, and he had a opponent that took away 1/3 of the fight from him by running due to fatigue. Besides David Reid was giving a boxing lesson to Tito through 6 rounds and he ended up taking such a beating that he never was the same and retired a year after.
no it didnt stop him coming forward but he was still getting beat bad tito is bit one dimensional and to be honest through first 9 rounds worst oscar could of done was 6 rounds to 3 i dont know how you can say tito would come him in 6 i see 12 round ud for oscar making sure of it though this time
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Re: Trinidad Vs De La Hoya 2 back in 2000. What would have happened?
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
Is this Tito with or without the illegal handwraps? :D
Ahhh, I always know a bitter DLH fan when I see one ;) ;)
Would this fight use the DLH-Whitaker and DLH-Quartey judges?
Bitter?Me? Nah!! I like both guys as boxers really enjoyed their careers...... I'm not Tito hater matter a fact check this out, I hate Tito and I'm so bitter 'I made' a highlight vid. of him before any other fighter even JCC or ODLH.....
[youtube=425,350]X316qCj_ynY[/youtube]
I know ODLH won the fight and I'm OK with what happened......... It was Sat. school for Tito that night.....
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Re: Trinidad Vs De La Hoya 2 back in 2000. What would have happened?
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by brazilianbomber
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
Is this Tito with or without the illegal handwraps? :D
If handwraps made you punch like that everyone would due it. Hell, I would even due it in my street fights.
Well, everyone doesn't do it cause theie guidelines you have to follow and not to mention it's
ILLEGAL!!!!!
WOW. Steroids or illegal and people still due them to give them the edge, many of them flush it out of their system before they can be tested. If handwraps gave them that kind of edge everyone would due them, the first time Tito was caught was during the Hopkins fight. And he had 40 fights before that. Can't believe you are talking about standards in the corrupt world of boxing.
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Re: Trinidad Vs De La Hoya 2 back in 2000. What would have happened?
Doesn't someone from the opponent's corner get to watch the hand wrapping of the fighter, as well as someone from the state boxing commission?? I believe they do.
And if that's the case, it wouldn't have taken 40 fights for someone to spot an illegal handwrapping. DLH has well-paid professionals in his corner, they would have seen something if it was blatant cheating.
I always thought Hopkins objected to the hand-wrapping as part of a mental game to try to throw Trinidad off. And it worked. Not that it really mattered, Hopkins would have won anyway.
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Re: Trinidad Vs De La Hoya 2 back in 2000. What would have happened?
Well for those who are new here and haven't read the whole ordeal or those who forgot how it wen't...............
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxing_fo...c,14148.0.html
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Re: Trinidad Vs De La Hoya 2 back in 2000. What would have happened?
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That makes it official. We can now stop buying things like Brass Knuckles, knifes, sticks, razors. The street gangs in LA are going to save a fortune now that they have read this. For now on they will buy guns and handwraps. :laugh:
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Re: Trinidad Vs De La Hoya 2 back in 2000. What would have happened?
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by brazilianbomber
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by brazilianbomber
We alway's talk about the fight, and who we think won, but what would have happened if they fought again, it could have been totally different. SOUND OFF YOU BLOODY FANATICS.
Trinidad KO in 6
i disagree totally oscar was giving tito boxing lesson until he run last few rounds oscar by ud making sure of victory this time
That boxing lesson did nothing to Trinidad, it did not stop him from coming forward, he was never hurt, stunned, or wobbled. Besides Trinidad was a notoriously late started in his career, and he had a opponent that took away 1/3 of the fight from him by running due to fatigue. Besides David Reid was giving a boxing lesson to Tito through 6 rounds and he ended up taking such a beating that he never was the same and retired a year after.
no it didnt stop him coming forward but he was still getting beat bad tito is bit one dimensional and to be honest through first 9 rounds worst oscar could of done was 6 rounds to 3 i dont know how you can say tito would come him in 6 i see 12 round ud for oscar making sure of it though this time
If he would have had the energy he would have made sure of it in the first match, but he ran out of gas. At 154 I think Tito would have went in for the quick kill and finished Oscar, I guess we can say Judah was giving Mayweather a boxing lesson, and we saw what happened with that, a flat out asswhoppin.
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Re: Trinidad Vs De La Hoya 2 back in 2000. What would have happened?
Tito was much faster and stronger at 154 so I don't think he would've looked the same as he did when they fiought at 147.
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Re: Trinidad Vs De La Hoya 2 back in 2000. What would have happened?
There was a reson why Oscar ran from Tito in the last few rounds. He knew if he stood his ground,he would get hurt so he ran like a bitch. That was not boxing,that was running! In a rematch,presumably at 154,Tito would hurt Oscar,may be stop him but definitely win. He was killing himself at 147 to make the weight,I think 154 was perfect for him whereas Oscar does not look good to me above 147. Oscar would not want to leave it to the judges,would stand his ground more and would get hurt by P4P one of the hardest punchers the sport has ever seen. I've said it once,I'll say it again,Tito does not get the credit he deserves. He beat most of the guys Oscar beat BEFORE oSCAR,ruined them and then Oscar would beat them and people would rant and rave about it: Vargas and Mayorga being the 2 best examples.
What was so illegal about the handwraps? Where's the proof? I saw plenty of Tito fights where he takes his gloves off and you see the wraps yet I didn't hear anyone make a noise about it.
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Re: Trinidad Vs De La Hoya 2 back in 2000. What would have happened?
I don't think Oscar ran because he was afraid of Tito, or afraid of getting hurt. I've never been an Oscar fan, but I have a ton of respect for him and he's gotten in the ring with everyone.
I think he just made a horrible tactical error, one that he probably regrets to this day, whether he admits or not. He was tired from being on his toes the whole fight, and he thought he had 7 or 8 rounds already in the bag. He thought Tito's only chance was to win by KO, so he gave him as little chance of that as possible.
It was just a bad mistake.
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Re: Trinidad Vs De La Hoya 2 back in 2000. What would have happened?
Either weight I think Oscar wins. It's not like the first fight was close until oscar got conservative. Yes, it fought that way because he respected Tito's power and yes Tito would still have a punchers chance, but even when Oscar was letting his hands go, Tito still couldn't make him pay for it. I like both fighters, but I actually prefer Tito to Oscar, and at the time, I was pulling for Tito. I wish we could have seen it happen.
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Re: Trinidad Vs De La Hoya 2 back in 2000. What would have happened?
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by brazilianbomber
We alway's talk about the fight, and who we think won, but what would have happened if they fought again, it could have been totally different. SOUND OFF YOU BLOODY FANATICS.
Trinidad KO in 6
i disagree totally oscar was giving tito boxing lesson until he run last few rounds oscar by ud making sure of victory this time
That boxing lesson did nothing to Trinidad, it did not stop him from coming forward, he was never hurt, stunned, or wobbled. Besides Trinidad was a notoriously late started in his career, and he had a opponent that took away 1/3 of the fight from him by running due to fatigue. Besides David Reid was giving a boxing lesson to Tito through 6 rounds and he ended up taking such a beating that he never was the same and retired a year after.
no it didnt stop him coming forward but he was still getting beat bad tito is bit one dimensional and to be honest through first 9 rounds worst oscar could of done was 6 rounds to 3 i dont know how you can say tito would come him in 6 i see 12 round ud for oscar making sure of it though this time
If he would have had the energy he would have made sure of it in the first match, but he ran out of gas. At 154 I think Tito would have went in for the quick kill and finished Oscar, I guess we can say Judah was giving Mayweather a boxing lesson, and we saw what happened with that, a flat out asswhoppin.
totally different though judah wernt giving mayweather boxing lesson he gave him some trouble first 4 rounds thats difference oscar basically dominated tito first 9 rounds and like i say worst oscar could of done in first 9 rounds is 6 rounds to 3 plus tito doesnt adjust that ive seen anyway he is one dimensional mayweather can change his tactics tito cant and always comes straight forward and even though i like tito he is one dimensional and when he is put in there with good tactical fighter hopkins wright they both dominated him
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Re: Trinidad Vs De La Hoya 2 back in 2000. What would have happened?
DLH KO in 9. He would have been extremely motivated to show the last time out was a fluke.
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Re: Trinidad Vs De La Hoya 2 back in 2000. What would have happened?
I'm no tito hatter, but compared to odlh he was one dimensional. Oscar made the freakin mistake of not doing jack for the last few rounds and paid for it, if they went at it again at 147 or 154 oscar would have bagged a ud. Unless tito caught him flush and knocked him, which I don't see happening but tito would always have a puncher's chance.
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Re: Trinidad Vs De La Hoya 2 back in 2000. What would have happened?
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DLH KO in 9. He would have been extremely motivated to show the last time out was a fluke.
I agree completely....ODLH has always had that chip on his shoulder...He takes Tito out instead of outboxing him.....
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Re: Trinidad Vs De La Hoya 2 back in 2000. What would have happened?
At 147 it would've been interesting. DLH might be the better boxer, but somewhere during the fight he'd have to trade with Tito. That alone could change the course of the fight.
Anywhere above that weight, DLH shouldn't even bother. Tito carried the extra weight a lot better than DLH did. 154 and above... Tito by KO.
Of course, I'm slightly biased.
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