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Totally agree with what Lovemore is saying and you gotta feel for the guy ;)
N'dou
“What kind of a champion is Hatton?
“He is a protected species and has never made a defence of a world title apart from the WBU.
“WBC holder Junior Witter is a better champ than Hatton because he will fight within the rules.”
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,3-2007060370,00.html
I'm no Hatton fan, but I don't see how anyone could fault him if he decides to fight Castillo instead of N'Dou. Castillo is a bigger fight, a more important fight. Beating Castillo does more to prove that Hatton is a real champ than fighting N'Dou and keeping a belt.
Lovemore may not like it, but I don't feel bad for him if Hatton doesn't fight him. I don't fault a fighter for not fighting by the commissions' rules, because most of the commissions' rule are all messed up.
We are back to believing the IBF's word as gospel now?
Even if Hattons team did try to find a way around fighting N'dou and defending the title against Castillo is that a bad thing?
N'dou should count his blessings, he will still get his title shot, this way around they might have him fight someone he has a cat in hells chance of beating.
He could also ask himself how he managed to find himself in an elimination fight to begin with.
Cool click Memphis. This very thread emphasises the fact that Hatton simply cannot win. He's critisized no matter what he does. He doesn't make defences because the governing bodies install very average fighters as the number 1 contenders. First off he gets absolutely slated for wanting to defend it, now he's getting slated for wanting to fight a better fighter instead? Strange.Quote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
N'dou won't let it be :)
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=9807&more=1
N'dou is just saying and doing what you would expect someone in his position to do.
As has already been pointed out if Hatton has to chuck that shitty belt to avoid fighting N'dou and go on to better things, that's a good thing.
Not one belt holder at 140 has any credibility really other than Hatton. All the titles belonged to Kostya, he lost them outside the ring. Hatton won his titles be beating the man. I'm sick of the business side of boxing, and all the stupid organizations. It should be one belt. HBO do the right thing, give the big money to the real champs and show them all the time. Why is Hatton and Calzaghe on american TV and no one else from Britain? Because they are the top dogs in the division.
So if hatton fights Castillo he gets slated and if he fights N'dou he gets slated... guess some things never change ;)
I think Hatton was stuipd to take a fight for the ibf belt in the first place.
He does not need thoese bunch of crooks to tell him he is the world champion.
CC...I actually think that at this point, the tougher challenge for Hatto n would be N'dou. Too many people in here only care about a name. N'dou seems to have alot left where as Castillo left me wondering his last time out. I took into account that he has plenty of rust to wear off but he looks slower and doesn't seem to have that edge in power he did at 135.
I'd personally never slate Ricky Hatton. I think he is a good fighter, and a funny young lad. The kind of guy you'd enjoy having a beer and a blether with - my kind of human being.
But the story is that if Hatton was gonna fight Castillo, then Hatton would be stripped and N'dou/Rabah would have been for the vacant championship. HOBSON told the IBF that Hatton would fulfil his mandatory (ie - don't strip him). N'dou/Rabah goes ahead, with both men understanding that they were fighting for a shot at Hatton's belt.
The fight ends, now N'dou get's neither a shot at Hatton or an IBF belt - can you understand why he'd be a little pissed??
All thanks to HOBSON'S alleged dishonesty to the IBF...
Now, I'm sure there's a lot more to come out in the wash - but if this is true then Dennis Hobson is a class A fuckwit.
Am i alone in thinking that it would be nice if Hatton went into a fight with the ring of..."And Current..." ;)
After Castillo he should do a at least one Mandatory defence imo.
8)
He still good 8)
I'm not a Hatton fan, but I give much respect for fighting Castillo.
That is most definately the right move. I will never 'slate' him for that decision.
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Originally Posted by killersheep
Ditto ;)
I just hope he throws some 'chat' back PBF's way so as to push the Hype for the Showdown 8)
It's their for the taking if he knuckles down and verbals Floyd, some in the coming months.
i can see where n'dou is comeing from but hatton has made the the right choice by fighting castillo. n'dou will more than likely get the vacated title and then if i was him i would try to approach witter about a unification. i'm sure witter would be keen to get his hands on another title and up his profile a bit so he can keep chasing a fight with hatton (that seems to be his goal in life at the moment). and i am sure n'dou would wan't to avenge his loss to witter and a unification would be a good money making opportunity for him.
wot are your thoughts guys?
don't think anyone's slating Haton for not fighting N'dou. Or that anyone will. So stop acting like Hatton's just criticized no matter what he does, noone on this site came up with the article, or is saying that it's accurate. Fight Castillo already, just get it signed.. I think hanging around in limbo is what pisses everyone off.. It's all so cryptic as to what he might actually do in the weeks before his fights get signed.
He generally is criticized no matter what he does tho.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
So is Floyd, so is Winky, Hopkins, so is Calzaghe. The whole point is that if Hatton want's to be listed amongst these guys he has to get used to it, and not just that, but make an effort to get big fights and let people know that's what he want's to do. I mean really, can you honestly say that since beating Tszyu, there hasn't been any reason to criticize him? Maussa, Collazo, then Urango, was not exactly the way to follow it up.. So naturally if he were to fight N'dou instead of Castillo for his next fight, he would be scrutinized, and probably quite fairly. My point was that since he isn't doing that, noone in their right mind is going to criticize him for this decision in particular.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
Amazing how Hatton would be moaning if Tszyu did that to him.
Hatton was just a mandatory for Tszyu's IBF belt and Hatton won that right. Now Lovemore won that right and Hatton is gonna say no?
How is Lovemore the number 1 is what I want to know? All the big names on his record are losses...I would think Junior Witter deserves the shot more than N'dou, or am I crazy?Diego Corrales, Castillo, Ngoudjo, and Witter are the only ones not currently scheduled to fight in the top of the division....I think any one of those guys would be better than Lovemore.
Yep, cuz Castilllos a better and bigger fight that was talked about beforehand. Not like N'dou will lose his mandatory status, and this way he may actually win the title when Hatton vacates.Quote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
i'm telling ya hatton has made the right choice in fighting castillo. far bigger name, more money involved, better for his legacy and probably gonna be a better fight than hatton n'dou.
lovemore n'dou should accept the vacated IBF title, chase witter for a rematch to avenge his loss at him and have a crack at a unification. i'm sure witter would be interested in getting his hands on another title and gaining a better rep state side and i'm sure that he probably reckons he would beat n'dou again. plus the winner of that fight might be able to have a crack at hatton. n'dou would surely want to avenge that loss.
Exactly mate CC. That's all it is at the end of the day, Hobson telling porkies to the IBF.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greig
I know your not going to be critical. Collazo could turn out to be a very good name on his record but that was almost by accident. You talk a lot of sense. The same people on here who were being critical of him not fighting castillo are now being critical for not fighting his madatory.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
thats why i love youQuote:
Originally Posted by Saddo
100% in agreement with saddo Hatton can do no right by some people...When it was suspected he would fight ndou he was allegedly ducking Castillo, now in paving the way to fight Castillo he is cheating N'dou.....But don't listen to me i'm only representing the opinion of the people who would prefer to see a superfight instead of a lamb being led to the slaughter
He's only fought 4 world champions 3 of them coming off career best wins in his last 4 fights !
No pleasing some.
Mayweather : oo me hands.
Thats a good point alri...but ya cant really deny he has had good schooling....A bronze world medal in the amateurs and consider pro fights like Ben Tackie & Vince Philips...Hatton is no soft touch.
Hatton dominaited those fellas for the best part of 12 rounds.
He's having hard fights i for one can't wait to guage Collazo - Mosely .
:coolclick: I completely agree with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
To be honest Ricky doesn't deserve to have the opportunites to fight for all of these belts.
To my knowledge he hasn't defended a single title. He won the IBF beating Tyszu, vacated it to fight Maussa for his title. Won that, vacated it to move up to fight Collazo for his world title. Won that (controversially) and suprise suprise vacated that and moved back down to fight for the belt he had just recently given up, beats Urango and wins the belt, and now wants to vacate that to fight Castillo ::**
Surely people have to understand that the belt organisations have rules and regulations and if Hatton wants to fight for these belts he should at least make an effort to honour the belts with one defense at least.
All he does is muscle his way in to the title shot, win it, then basically throws the belt away, takes a crap in the ring and fucks off to fight for another title, which he will throw away seconds after winning.
I'm steadily going off Hatton to be honest.
I'm surprised at you Bilbo ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by bilbo
Name me one mandatory challenger that was worth Hatton defending against? He did defend his IBF belt against Maussa. Thats why the show was called 'unification' :P
It's a double edged sword really. It depends what you expect from a champion. If he is de-valueing titles by vacating them, the organisations are the root of the problem by installing cannon fodder as the number 1 contenders.
People give Mayweather shit for the things Hatton does and gets no flack for.
Like what starr?