Pacquiao's loss against Torrecampo(Pacquiao KO'd with low blow)

Watch Torrecampo's left hand closely right as the knockdown

[youtube=425,350]V-OPJObk290&NR[/youtube]

Well I guess that eliminates the "Pacquiao has a glass chin because he's been stopped twice" thing ;D

Pacquiao!!!!! :) How did the ref miss that! :'(

Watch for the LOW BLOW WITH THE LEFT HAND!!

i saw a shoulderbutt and a missed punch. Good left to the body.

What did you see???

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Originally Posted by ArawakWarria

i saw a shoulderbutt and a missed punch. Good left to the body.

What did you see???

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Yea same here... Can't really make out any impact with the right hand, if that's what I was supposed to be looking for. Also you could probably take the last 3 names off your sig. ;)

I see a quick short punch knocking him out. Pac has gone on record saying he was young back than and he learned from that knock out. He's never denied being stopped.

He put his head down into the shoulder it wasnt intentional..but that was the damage I think.Ref didnt see it he was on the other side, blocked by Torrecampo. Whoever was saying Paquiao has a glass chin is crazy.

LOOK!!! TORRECAMPO HIT HIM LOW WITH HIS RIGHT HAND!!!! ;)

I know it is his power hand, but do you mean his left hand??? I didn't see the right hit anything...

??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

Sorry my mistake it was his left hand that hit Pacquiao low but look!!

I agree with Angel Eye's on this one, if you play the video stopping frame by frame you can make out that the left clearly hit well below the belt line. playing it normal speed its impossible to see cus the quality's so crap. Even if/though it wasn't a legit KO its hardly done pacman any harm in the long run has it. Should be pvp no.1 IMO

Looks like a ball banger to me.

The commentary said it was to the jaw . Doesnt really matter though does it

I think Pacs abit better than that these days ;)

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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes

Watch Torrecampo's left hand closely right as the knockdown

[youtube=425,350]V-OPJObk290&NR[/youtube]

Well I guess that eliminates the "Pacquiao has a glass chin because he's been stopped twice" thing ;D

Pacquiao!!!!! :) How did the ref miss that! :'(

Watch for the LOW BLOW WITH THE LEFT HAND!!

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Thanks for the info Angel, but I still think it's a legit punch if it was otherwise PAC should've said something. I still think PAC's chin will always be a chink in his armor ;)

that was mostly a low blow yes,


but a prime pacman has a great chin, just ask mab jmm and em(in 25 rounds)

people can say his easy to hit, but how come i can't remember the last time he got drop, because prime pacman has a GREAT CHIN.

it was a shoulder to the face and a low blow. ealry in his career he had a weak gut, he cant take body punches.

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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes

LOOK!!! TORRECAMPO HIT HIM LOW WITH HIS RIGHT HAND!!!! ;)

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It was the left hand that your questioning NOT the right....

You say it's low.
Is that why Pac is complaning to the ref? ???


It's a legit punch and as VD stated.

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

I see a quick short punch knocking him out. Pac has gone on record saying he was young back than and he learned from that knock out. He's never denied being stopped.

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Originally Posted by mnmc10

it was a shoulder to the face and a low blow. ealry in his career he had a weak gut, he cant take body punches.

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The last time Pac got dropped it was against Barrera in round 1 .

The last time Pac got hurt it was by Larios in round 3 .

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Originally Posted by mnmc10

it was a shoulder to the face and a low blow. ealry in his career he had a weak gut, he cant take body punches.

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The last time Pac got dropped it was against Barrera in round 1 .

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Do you mean technically? because Barerra didn't knock him down or hit him, Pacquiao leaned forward and hit Barerra and fell over because of balance and momentum.

Pac has never said he was not knocked out so..... ??? ??? ???

Strange KO that. If it was low he would have been more mobile while on the floor due to the pain. He must have been caught by the right too and sort of got stunned in the process. Pac has a good enough chin from what I have seen. He has improved since then in a big way I have to say.

There is no way to see the low blow in that clip....its too dark. I still think it was the shoulder that took him out because he was dazed not grabbing his junk. Looked like he was in lala land.

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Originally Posted by mnmc10

it was a shoulder to the face and a low blow. ealry in his career he had a weak gut, he cant take body punches.

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That is what it looks like to me.

I don't have this fight on CD so I had to grab the same one posted and I just slowed it down and ran it in reverse but the quality of the U-Tube video is sh1t so nothing I can do but it looks like a low blow and a shoulder impact to the face or chin.

[stream=300,300]http://sergiomora.net/php-nuke/vids/pac.wmv[/stream]

Again it is hard to say one way or another but I am sure a cleaner version will show up. I guess I have to look for this fight.
But thanks for the post and a CC for the thread starter. PCP angel something or another.

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Originally Posted by Danny_G

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Originally Posted by mnmc10

it was a shoulder to the face and a low blow. ealry in his career he had a weak gut, he cant take body punches.

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That is what it looks like to me.

I don't have this fight on CD so I had to grab the same one posted and I just slowed it down and ran it in reverse but the quality of the U-Tube video is sh1t so nothing I can do but it looks like a low blow and a shoulder impact to the face or chin.

[stream=300,300]http://sergiomora.net/php-nuke/vids/pac.wmv[/stream]

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wow :o

In the second replay in super slow mo, Pacquiao was falling from what appears to be a low blow, did the other punch even land ???

In slo mo you definately see the low blow. Now it looks like the ball shot and the shoulder are both left side and at the same time almost. Too bad theres no instant replay in boxing. What would really suck, would be if that was his only loss...

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Originally Posted by ArawakWarria

i saw a shoulderbutt and a missed punch. Good left to the body.

What did you see???

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Nothing but shoulder

after that vid, there was only a low blow, maybe a shoulder...and then pac hitting the back of his head on the canvas, i think when he got hit by the low blow his legs gave in and the impact of torrecampo coming in, push pac backwards and made pac hit his head on the canvas,that was made him stun,boxing rings canvas are solid hard you hit your head on it your gonna be in worst shape.......ultimately that was a low blow, there was no legal punch.

Yeah, it looked like Pacquiao banged his head on the canvas too and that doesn't help..

Pacquiao was knocked down and out with a low blow. Replays of the local TV showed several times the shot to the groin.

thats bullllllll shiiiiiiiiiiit MAN!

u feel his pain to like AWWWWWWWWW FUKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK MY NUTS! :'(

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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes

Watch Torrecampo's left hand closely right as the knockdown

[youtube=425,350]V-OPJObk290&NR[/youtube]

Well I guess that eliminates the "Pacquiao has a glass chin because he's been stopped twice" thing ;D

Pacquiao!!!!! :) How did the ref miss that! :'(

Watch for the LOW BLOW WITH THE LEFT HAND!!

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Thanks for the info Angel, but I still think it's a legit punch if it was otherwise PAC should've said something. I still think PAC's chin will always be a chink in his armor ;)

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Let say PAcquaio was truly knocked out in that fight however,it was not because of glassy chin. It was abdominal. Compare Pacquaio's abdomen now and during that fight. Big difference.

thats what im saying like for the longest time, nobody seems to listen. his gut was really weak back then i remember one fight where they specifically trained pacs abs. like dropping a coconut on his gut while he was lying down. and whipping his abs with a stick until he cant take no more.

the torrecampo fight was because of a low blow and a shoulder yeah he lost he admitted it also.
the other fight he lost to a thai guy because of dehydration, he lost the fight before even entering the ring once inside all it took was a couple of shots to the gut and down went pac.

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Originally Posted by mnmc10

thats what im saying like for the longest time, nobody seems to listen. his gut was really weak back then i remember one fight where they specifically trained pacs abs. like dropping a coconut on his gut while he was lying down. and whipping his abs with a stick until he cant take no more.

the torrecampo fight was because of a low blow and a shoulder yeah he lost he admitted it also.
the other fight he lost to a thai guy because of dehydration, he lost the fight before even entering the ring once inside all it took was a couple of shots to the gut and down went pac.

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True. he lost to the thai guy because of dehydration. His lose with torrecampo is becoming controversial. Easily, we can therefore say that Pacquaio has not lose any fight yet. His next opponents should not therefore think that they can defeat the Pac because he has a record of defeat. Rather, they should think that if they will defeat the Pac convincingly, then he that does the deed is worthy to be part of the top ten p4p.