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If Margarito Cotto does not come off,Cotto may face...Judah?!
http://www.maxboxing.com/Kim/Kim020907.asp
Kim is an excellent analysis and usually nails points..I hope its not Judah though,I'd prefer Mosley or Cintron!
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Cotto will finish Judah off for good. He'l knock him out. I love watching Cotto. :D
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As much as people like to rag on Judah, you could find many worse replacement opponents out there. In fact, I think a fighter of Judah's speed could be an important test for Cotto.
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Cotto will finish Judah off for good. He'l knock him out. I love watching Cotto. :D
I like Cotto too but don't be so sure. He's got a bit of a chin problem himself. And Zab has more speed, talent, and has beaten better fighters. We'll see how Judah looks in his tune up fight, but I would make Judah the favorite against Cotto myself. Though I like both guys a lot.
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Judah was wincing from Floyds bodyshots,Cotto would break him in half. And Cotto was went down from a push,and was taking shots from a guy with a 98% KO ratio.And I'm sure the weight making was an issue too. Judah is faster,his power is over rated at 147. Cotto is bigger,stronger,has very very under rated handspeed,good jab when he uses it and power in both hands. He can cut the ring off well too. Cotto via tko by the 9th at the latest.And Judah does not conclusively have the better resume.
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Judah was wincing from Floyds bodyshots,Cotto would break him in half. And Cotto was went down from a push,and was taking shots from a guy with a 98% KO ratio.And I'm sure the weight making was an issue too. Judah is faster,his power is over rated at 147. Cotto is bigger,stronger,has very very under rated handspeed,good jab when he uses it and power in both hands. He can cut the ring off well too. Cotto via tko by the 9th at the latest.And Judah does not conclusively have the better resume.
Give him a bit more credit then that, man... He'll be the best fighter Cotto will have ever faced if it happens. Dont see how you could argue that, or find it to be a bad choice of opponent. That would say a hell of alot about Cotto imo.. Ballsy move to accept the Judah fight at this point, Zabs not exactly a red hot ticket but still a very dangerous fighter that doesn't get enough credit for his ability. He could very well give Miguel everything he could handle early on, and a stoppage win for Judah wouldn't be out of the question either as long as he fights smart. The longer the fight lasts the more Cotto will take over but I would definetly expect Judah to win the early rounds and he could very possibly hurt him.
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Judah was wincing from Floyds bodyshots,Cotto would break him in half. And Cotto was went down from a push,and was taking shots from a guy with a 98% KO ratio.And I'm sure the weight making was an issue too. Judah is faster,his power is over rated at 147. Cotto is bigger,stronger,has very very under rated handspeed,good jab when he uses it and power in both hands. He can cut the ring off well too. Cotto via tko by the 9th at the latest.And Judah does not conclusively have the better resume.
Judah has been THE REAL champ before, something Cotto is yet to do. Also did you see the Chop Chop fights with both? Judah easily whipped Corley, not once getting hurt, Cotto was rocked BIG TIME, but stopped Corley albeit controversially. And I did not see Judah hurtin from the body shots much from Floyd, he knocked Floyd down and won the first 4 rounds, plus the 12th, thats better than Cotto could do against Mayweather at this stage. Really, a focused Judah should be able to put Cotto on his ass. For Cotto to win I think he would have to go out there and put a hurt on Judah quick, not fuk around and try to box with Judah. Judah is still an ELITE fighter Game, you know it.
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Judah was wincing from Floyds bodyshots,Cotto would break him in half. And Cotto was went down from a push,and was taking shots from a guy with a 98% KO ratio.And I'm sure the weight making was an issue too. Judah is faster,his power is over rated at 147. Cotto is bigger,stronger,has very very under rated handspeed,good jab when he uses it and power in both hands. He can cut the ring off well too. Cotto via tko by the 9th at the latest.And Judah does not conclusively have the better resume.
Give him a bit more credit then that, man... He'll be the best fighter Cotto will have ever faced if it happens. Dont see how you could argue that, or find it to be a bad choice of opponent. That would say a hell of alot about Cotto imo.. Ballsy move to accept the Judah fight at this point, Zabs not exactly a red hot ticket but still a very dangerous fighter that doesn't get enough credit for his ability. He could very well give Miguel everything he could handle early on, and a stoppage win for Judah wouldn't be out of the question either as long as he fights smart. The longer the fight lasts the more Cotto will take over but I would definetly expect Judah to win the early rounds and he could very possibly hurt him.
Sorry,poor wording on my behalf. Whilst I agree Judah is a dangerous fighter,I believe that Cotto is better off fighting Mosley or unifying with Cintron in an all PR battle. Judah should have to work his way up. I don't think Judah could stop Cotto,no way.I believe his power to be over rated at 147 and I also believe when Cottos' camp says Cotto has become a better fighter by just moving up,he was killing himself to make the weight and that could have affected his stamina,punch resistance etc.
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Judah was wincing from Floyds bodyshots,Cotto would break him in half. And Cotto was went down from a push,and was taking shots from a guy with a 98% KO ratio.And I'm sure the weight making was an issue too. Judah is faster,his power is over rated at 147. Cotto is bigger,stronger,has very very under rated handspeed,good jab when he uses it and power in both hands. He can cut the ring off well too. Cotto via tko by the 9th at the latest.And Judah does not conclusively have the better resume.
Judah has been THE REAL champ before, something Cotto is yet to do. Also did you see the Chop Chop fights with both? Judah easily whipped Corley, not once getting hurt, Cotto was rocked BIG TIME, but stopped Corley albeit controversially. And I did not see Judah hurtin from the body shots much from Floyd, he knocked Floyd down and won the first 4 rounds, plus the 12th, thats better than Cotto could do against Mayweather at this stage. Really, a focused Judah should be able to put Cotto on his ass. For Cotto to win I think he would have to go out there and put a hurt on Judah quick, not fuk around and try to box with Judah. Judah is still an ELITE fighter Game, you know it.
I don't care what champ he has been.Who did he lose it to? Cotto was rocked and it was a contraversial stoppage but Cotto was taking more risks than Judah and was plagued with weight making problems and he most certainly would have stopped DeMarcus at some point.
And I had the Judah PBF fight 3-2 Judah after the first five. ANd athletically speaking,I'll admit Judah is elite but again,I re stress the point,mere athletiscm won't cut it in boxing and thats why Judah is not elite imo. How can he be? He's lost what...4 of his last 6 or 7 fights>That elite? I disagree. And Cotto would be better than Judah against Floyd imo but thats irrelevant and Judah didn't knock Floyd down from the power of his punch,it was a balance issue and it was not officially called either.
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Judah was wincing from Floyds bodyshots,Cotto would break him in half. And Cotto was went down from a push,and was taking shots from a guy with a 98% KO ratio.And I'm sure the weight making was an issue too. Judah is faster,his power is over rated at 147. Cotto is bigger,stronger,has very very under rated handspeed,good jab when he uses it and power in both hands. He can cut the ring off well too. Cotto via tko by the 9th at the latest.And Judah does not conclusively have the better resume.
Judah has been THE REAL champ before, something Cotto is yet to do. Also did you see the Chop Chop fights with both? Judah easily whipped Corley, not once getting hurt, Cotto was rocked BIG TIME, but stopped Corley albeit controversially. And I did not see Judah hurtin from the body shots much from Floyd, he knocked Floyd down and won the first 4 rounds, plus the 12th, thats better than Cotto could do against Mayweather at this stage. Really, a focused Judah should be able to put Cotto on his ass. For Cotto to win I think he would have to go out there and put a hurt on Judah quick, not fuk around and try to box with Judah. Judah is still an ELITE fighter Game, you know it.
Didn't Judah only win a split against Chop Chop?
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yeah i dont think that Judah will even make it 2 cotto because i dont think he will get past israel cardona imo
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as nice as cotto is... he cant take a punch and judah WILL hit him and it will most likely be the hardest cotto has EVER been hit
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Zab would beat both Margarito and Cotto. Nobody has made Mayweather look "beatable" other then Zab Judah and Jose Luis Castillo.
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Originally Posted by Starr
Zab would beat both Margarito and Cotto. Nobody has made Mayweather look "beatable" other then Zab Judah and Jose Luis Castillo.
Of course,he made Floyd look beatable therefore he can beat everyone ::** ::** ::** Floyd was just thinking his way around in the early rounds and after five it was 3-2 Judah.after that Floyd dominated easily whilst Judah was making a fool of himself with those stupid hand movements and the nonsense talking.
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Zab would beat both Margarito and Cotto. Nobody has made Mayweather look "beatable" other then Zab Judah and Jose Luis Castillo.
Of course,he made Floyd look beatable therefore he can beat everyone ::** ::** ::** Floyd was just thinking his way around in the early rounds and after five it was 3-2 Judah.after that Floyd dominated easily whilst Judah was making a fool of himself with those stupid hand movements and the nonsense talking.
Quick to defend Floyd today aren't we? ;)
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Zab would beat both Margarito and Cotto.
I agree, Zab would beat them both the same way he beat Baldomir.
Right on!! :thumb:
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Nobody has made Mayweather look "beatable" other then Zab Judah and Jose Luis Castillo.
I think it should be reversed JLC should be listed 1st then Zab. Zab did win some early rds. But did he win the fight?
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Zab would beat both Margarito and Cotto. Nobody has made Mayweather look "beatable" other then Zab Judah and Jose Luis Castillo.
Of course,he made Floyd look beatable therefore he can beat everyone ::** ::** ::** Floyd was just thinking his way around in the early rounds and after five it was 3-2 Judah.after that Floyd dominated easily whilst Judah was making a fool of himself with those stupid hand movements and the nonsense talking.
Quick to defend Floyd today aren't we? ;)
Defending Floyd?
I see it more as stating facts..... Wether Zab was fighting Floyd that night or whomever.... Doesn't mean anything other then stating facts about a fight. Hes not defending a PBF - Zaba arguement, hes defending the fact that Starr stated PBF showed how beatble PBF is, when in reality Zab only won the 1st 3 rds. of the fight.
As Starr comented that Zab would beat Cotto & Maragrito.....
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by Starr
Zab would beat both Margarito and Cotto.
I agree, Zab would beat them both the same way he beat Baldomir.
Right on!! :thumb:
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Originally Posted by Starr
Nobody has made Mayweather look "beatable" other then Zab Judah and Jose Luis Castillo.
I think it should be reversed JLC should be listed 1st then Zab. Zab did win some early rds. But did he win the fight?
You scared me there bro,thought you were agreeing with Starr until I saw the sign!!
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Zab would beat both Margarito and Cotto. Nobody has made Mayweather look "beatable" other then Zab Judah and Jose Luis Castillo.
Of course,he made Floyd look beatable therefore he can beat everyone ::** ::** ::** Floyd was just thinking his way around in the early rounds and after five it was 3-2 Judah.after that Floyd dominated easily whilst Judah was making a fool of himself with those stupid hand movements and the nonsense talking.
Quick to defend Floyd today aren't we? ;)
hahahaah,honestly,I wanted Zab to win that fight because I knew Floyd would not fight Margarito whereas King said Zab would(yeah right). I was impressed with Judah for the first few rounds but how anyone can say it was close after 5 is besides me,Floyd put on a clinic with awesome bodyshots. I've never denied the mans talents.
I dont understand the mentality that Zab(supposedly) gave PBF a tough fight so he can beat Cotto and Margarito,I mean there is absolutely NO logic in that thinking whatsoever.
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Zab would beat both Margarito and Cotto. Nobody has made Mayweather look "beatable" other then Zab Judah and Jose Luis Castillo.
Of course,he made Floyd look beatable therefore he can beat everyone ::** ::** ::** Floyd was just thinking his way around in the early rounds and after five it was 3-2 Judah.after that Floyd dominated easily whilst Judah was making a fool of himself with those stupid hand movements and the nonsense talking.
Quick to defend Floyd today aren't we? ;)
Defending Floyd?
I see it more as stating facts..... Wether Zab was fighting Floyd that night or whomever.... Doesn't mean anything other then stating facts about a fight. Hes not defending a PBF - Zaba arguement, hes defending the fact that Starr stated PBF showed how beatble PBF is, when in reality Zab only won the 1st 3 rds. of the fight.
You fwocking nailed it.
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By the way I wish, hope & pray that Cotto doesn't waste his time with a never has been. :)
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by Starr
Zab would beat both Margarito and Cotto.
I agree, Zab would beat them both the same way he beat Baldomir.
Right on!! :thumb:
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Originally Posted by Starr
Nobody has made Mayweather look "beatable" other then Zab Judah and Jose Luis Castillo.
I think it should be reversed JLC should be listed 1st then Zab. Zab did win some early rds. But did he win the fight?
Nope, and neither did Castillo(both times)
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
Of course,he made Floyd look beatable therefore he can beat everyone ::** ::** ::**
Unless Margarito "lean forward and get countered by right hooks and wait for my opponent to break his hand on my chin" Margarito or Miguel Cotto have a better chance of making Floyd look like that :)
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By the way I wish, hope & pray that Cotto doesn't waste his time with a never has been. :)
Don't worry, Bojado isn't on his radar :)
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Speed kills and Judah is A LOT faster than Margarito, and faster than Cotto as well. He could KO Cotto. Don't underestimate Judah just cus you don't like him.
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Speed kills and Judah is A LOT faster than Margarito, and faster than Cotto as well. He could KO Cotto. Don't underestimate Judah just cus you don't like him.
I don't like Floyd,but I've never underestimated him,he's going to beat Oscar easily. I never under setimate fighters just because I dislike them,thats not my style.You're over rating Judah,he got KTFO by Tszyu and Cotto hits just as hard. He got shaken to his boots and ran from BALDOMIR and Margarito throws a TON more punches,harder punches with better placement.
Speed kills but a glass jaw,lack of heart,lack of focus,lack of determination and willingness to lay it on the line would get Zab destroyed by Cotto and mARGARITO(i'M adressing Starr here too).
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By the way I wish, hope & pray that Cotto doesn't waste his time with a never has been. :)
Don't worry, Bojado isn't on his radar :)
Ba ha ha ha ha ha!!!!
I can accept the fact that Bojado didn't come through.
Can you accept your 'has been'?
De-nile is NOT only river you know?
:thinking2:
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Originally Posted by Starr
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By the way I wish, hope & pray that Cotto doesn't waste his time with a never has been. :)
Don't worry, Bojado isn't on his radar :)
Ba ha ha ha ha ha!!!!
I can accept the fact that Bojado didn't come through.
Can you accept your 'has been'?
De-nile is NOT only river you know?
:thinking2:
has-been means they were once something. Bojado is a never was. Which is a worse ghost on your mind becausre he never accomplished anything, and even if Zab "was" a hasbeen, he was on that was a champion at two weights and undisputed Welterweight champ as well. While Bojado...was nothing...
I can live with that :)
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Zab would beat both Margarito and Cotto. Nobody has made Mayweather look "beatable" other then Zab Judah and Jose Luis Castillo.
Hahaha, please. Judah made Floyd look beatable? Judah also cured cancer. Right Starr?
But I don't like this fight for Cotto. He's a better boxer with better stamina, better defense, better chin and better power whilst Judah is nothing more then outstanding speed and pop in a shiny little package. I don't like the fight for Cotto just because Judah can be a tough guy to get to and it takes a while for you to figure him out. It would definitely be a very interesting fight. Cotto doesn't possess the best right hand, which is usually a sure fire way to beat Judah, but he does have the left hook.
And Judah gets hit with a lot of stuff in transition, usually as he's backing up or coming in or the other fighter is. So when the topic of Judah - Cotto came up a couple months ago, I didn't like Cotto's chances. But Cotto has stepped up his game and he does the little things in between now and just isn't zoned into getting inside. I think his trainer got on him about that after the Torres fight.
So I'm going with Cotto, but it could take a while.
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Originally Posted by Starr
Zab would beat both Margarito and Cotto. Nobody has made Mayweather look "beatable" other then Zab Judah and Jose Luis Castillo.
Hahaha, please. Judah made Floyd look beatable? Judah also cured cancer. Right Starr?
But I don't like this fight for Cotto. He's a better boxer with better stamina, better defense, better chin and better power whilst Judah is nothing more then outstanding speed and pop in a shiny little package. I don't like the fight for Cotto just because Judah can be a tough guy to get to and it takes a while for you to figure him out. It would definitely be a very interesting fight. Cotto doesn't possess the best right hand, which is usually a sure fire way to beat Judah, but he does have the left hook.
And Judah gets hit with a lot of stuff in transition, usually as he's backing up or coming in or the other fighter is. So when the topic of Judah - Cotto came up a couple months ago, I didn't like Cotto's chances. But Cotto has stepped up his game and he does the little things in between now and just isn't zoned into getting inside. I think his trainer got on him about that after the Torres fight.
So I'm going with Cotto, but it could take a while.
I'll go with Zab to beat Cotto 10 out of 10 times.
And NO Zab didn't cure cancer, never in his wildest dreams will zab be chuck norris!!!
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Originally Posted by Starr
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Originally Posted by amat
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Originally Posted by Starr
Zab would beat both Margarito and Cotto. Nobody has made Mayweather look "beatable" other then Zab Judah and Jose Luis Castillo.
Hahaha, please. Judah made Floyd look beatable? Judah also cured cancer. Right Starr?
But I don't like this fight for Cotto. He's a better boxer with better stamina, better defense, better chin and better power whilst Judah is nothing more then outstanding speed and pop in a shiny little package. I don't like the fight for Cotto just because Judah can be a tough guy to get to and it takes a while for you to figure him out. It would definitely be a very interesting fight. Cotto doesn't possess the best right hand, which is usually a sure fire way to beat Judah, but he does have the left hook.
And Judah gets hit with a lot of stuff in transition, usually as he's backing up or coming in or the other fighter is. So when the topic of Judah - Cotto came up a couple months ago, I didn't like Cotto's chances. But Cotto has stepped up his game and he does the little things in between now and just isn't zoned into getting inside. I think his trainer got on him about that after the Torres fight.
So I'm going with Cotto, but it could take a while.
I'll go with Zab to beat Cotto 10 out of 10 times.
And NO Zab didn't cure cancer, never in his wildest dreams will zab be chuck norris!!!
I wouldn't pick Zab to beat Cosme Rivera 10 out of 10 times. He is the most inconsistent fighter in world championship boxing.
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By the way I wish, hope & pray that Cotto doesn't waste his time with a never has been. :)
Don't worry, Bojado isn't on his radar :)
Ba ha ha ha ha ha!!!!
I can accept the fact that Bojado didn't come through.
Can you accept your 'has been'?
De-nile is NOT only river you know?
:thinking2:
has-been means they were once something. Bojado is a never was. Which is a worse ghost on your mind becausre he never accomplished anything, and even if Zab "was" a hasbeen, he was on that was a champion at two weights and undisputed Welterweight champ as well. While Bojado...was nothing...
I can live with that :)
God I love it when your around.... :lickish:
You stir me the right way....
OK... I can accpet Bojado never was.
Can you accept that Zab 'was' a champion and is a 'hasbeen'?
No you can't.... ;)
De-nile is not only a river you know?
:thinking2:
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Originally Posted by Starr
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By the way I wish, hope & pray that Cotto doesn't waste his time with a never has been. :)
Don't worry, Bojado isn't on his radar :)
Ba ha ha ha ha ha!!!!
I can accept the fact that Bojado didn't come through.
Can you accept your 'has been'?
De-nile is NOT only river you know?
:thinking2:
has-been means they were once something. Bojado is a never was. Which is a worse ghost on your mind becausre he never accomplished anything, and even if Zab "was" a hasbeen, he was on that was a champion at two weights and undisputed Welterweight champ as well. While Bojado...was nothing...
I can live with that :)
God I love it when your around.... :lickish:
You stir me the right way....
OK... I can accpet Bojado never was.
Can you accept that Zab 'was' a champion and is a 'hasbeen'?
No you can't.... ;)
De-nile is not only a river you know?
:thinking2:
Don't get turned on by my sassiness Mick, I'm here for boxing business only.
And I already said I could live with that. You didn't read it?
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Here's a fight Cotto needs to get recognition from the East Coast Fans.
I believe Judah's from East. heheh, Either way, its a fight Cotto needs to get more recognition.
And beat up a premadonna bling star. heh
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By the way I wish, hope & pray that Cotto doesn't waste his time with a never has been. :)
Don't worry, Bojado isn't on his radar :)
Ba ha ha ha ha ha!!!!
I can accept the fact that Bojado didn't come through.
Can you accept your 'has been'?
De-nile is NOT only river you know?
:thinking2:
has-been means they were once something. Bojado is a never was. Which is a worse ghost on your mind becausre he never accomplished anything, and even if Zab "was" a hasbeen, he was on that was a champion at two weights and undisputed Welterweight champ as well. While Bojado...was nothing...
I can live with that :)
God I love it when your around.... :lickish:
You stir me the right way....
OK... I can accpet Bojado never was.
Can you accept that Zab 'was' a champion and is a 'hasbeen'?
No you can't.... ;)
De-nile is not only a river you know?
:thinking2:
Don't get turned on by my sassiness Mick, I'm here for boxing business only.
And I already said I could live with that. You didn't read it?
:)
then were done here onto the next thread. What shall it be JCC-Pernell, SMM-Collazo, Zab-Israel ? ? ;D
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Your decision THIS time :)
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I would root for Cotto if it happened but I would not be at easy until it's over. Judah is a good fighter with a lot of weapons that can be serious problems for Cotto. Again though, Cotto's body work is what puts him over the top.
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Originally Posted by Hulk
Speed kills and Judah is A LOT faster than Margarito, and faster than Cotto as well. He could KO Cotto. Don't underestimate Judah just cus you don't like him.
I don't like Floyd,but I've never underestimated him,he's going to beat Oscar easily. I never under setimate fighters just because I dislike them,thats not my style.You're over rating Judah,he got KTFO by Tszyu and Cotto hits just as hard. He got shaken to his boots and ran from BALDOMIR and Margarito throws a TON more punches,harder punches with better placement.
Speed kills but a glass jaw,lack of heart,lack of focus,lack of determination and willingness to lay it on the line would get Zab destroyed by Cotto and mARGARITO(i'M adressing Starr here too).
Lets face it, Judah has no focus, dedication, chin, or defence, and has never faught a big puncher at 147, and got knocked the fuck out by a big puncher at 140. He has no chin, and no toughness. Cotto or Margarito would completly crush him inside 6. There's no question. I'd bet a testicle. Fuck it I'd bet both of them. But the fight will never happen if Judah is of sound mental fitness.
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One thing that I haven't seen mentioned yet, is that Judah is a very attractive opponent for Cotto from a marketing and tickets perspective.
Cotto's adopted U.S. fighting base is NYC, and specifically Madison Square Garden.
I don't care how many times Judah has been beaten, he's from Brooklyn, and therefore a Cotto-Judah fight would create a ton of buzz in NYC.
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Re: If Margarito Cotto does not come off,Cotto may face...Judah?!
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Speed kills and Judah is A LOT faster than Margarito, and faster than Cotto as well. He could KO Cotto. Don't underestimate Judah just cus you don't like him.
I don't like Floyd,but I've never underestimated him,he's going to beat Oscar easily. I never under setimate fighters just because I dislike them,thats not my style.You're over rating Judah,he got KTFO by Tszyu and Cotto hits just as hard. He got shaken to his boots and ran from BALDOMIR and Margarito throws a TON more punches,harder punches with better placement.
Speed kills but a glass jaw,lack of heart,lack of focus,lack of determination and willingness to lay it on the line would get Zab destroyed by Cotto and mARGARITO(i'M adressing Starr here too).
Lets face it, Judah has no focus, dedication, chin, or defence, and has never faught a big puncher at 147, and got knocked the fuck out by a big puncher at 140. He has no chin, and no toughness. Cotto or Margarito would completly crush him inside 6. There's no question. I'd bet a testicle. Fuck it I'd bet both of them. But the fight will never happen if Judah is of sound mental fitness.
You can't bet what you don't have. ;D ;)
I'll gurantee that Judah has more chin and toughness than anyone you know. He got off the mat to KO Tyron Mullet. He knocked Cory Spinks the fuk out in his hometown. He blasted out Cosme Rivera like he was nothing, the same Rivera who has been a top ten fighter and just went the distance with Joel Julio. He easily outboxed Mickey Ward. Judah is a tad bit better than you are givin him credit for.
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Re: If Margarito Cotto does not come off,Cotto may face...Judah?!
The fight goes like this:
Zab wins 3 out of the first 5 rounds, giving Cotto problems and stunning him at some point.
Round 5 on Cotto takes over because of all of the body shots he has landed to this point. Zab is wearing out physically and mentally. Zab then gets stopped in the late rounds.
Zab has a ton of talent but lacks the mental side of it to be able to stay fighting at the elite level. He couldnt stay focused beyound 5 rounds against PBF, and he was taking the fight to Floyd at that point. But then stopped doing what won him the first few rounds. I believe Cotto will take his will/heart/spirit away.
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Re: If Margarito Cotto does not come off,Cotto may face...Judah?!
If Zab stays focused for all 12 rounds like the spinks rematch then he'll take cotto.
If not, Cotto will take him.
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If Zab stays focused for all 12 rounds like the spinks rematch then he'll take cotto.
If not, Cotto will take him.
....so what you're saying is "bring out the stretcher Zab's going to the emergencey room"
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Re: If Margarito Cotto does not come off,Cotto may face...Judah?!
Anyone who picks Judah over Cotto is in need of psychological help.
Baldomir, not a noted puncher, had him out on his feet. Cotto is far too sharp and punches far too hard.
If that fight ever gets made, I'll be emptying the bank on Friday to bet on Cotto by KO, and I'll be there first thing Monday morning to put what I made in...