Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds: Mosley vs Collazo.

Alrighty fellars...the weekend is finally here.

It's time for another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds...unfortunately...I've got so much going on...all I can say is that this weekend we get to see if the "Sugar" is still sweet as Shane Mosley fights for bragging rights at 147 & the WBC's Welterweight Interim Title.

I wish I had time to hash this one out for you bwoyz & girls...but I don't...lots of family matters going on...so I'll leave the theorizing up to you this go around.

I shall return Saturday night just before the clock strikes 9:45 to give you all the rundown.

My pick? Mosley...but I'd love to see Collazo pull it outta the bag.

Cheers & koneecheewah bitches.

Good to see you've returned, Im not going to be able to watch this one so Im looking forward to the RBR. Hope all's well with your family.

CC,for all the effort and I hope everything is cool with the fam. I'm actually going with Collazo here,the southpaw stance will give Shane problems,Luis has fast fast hands and can bang too. His lack of power could be a big factor though,especially if Shane realises he can walk through Collazo's output. However,Luis will be smart,he'll be elusive and pick his spots,I think tight points win for Collazo. I would not be surprised if Shane won though.

Mosley by mid to late stoppage for me.

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Mosley by mid to late stoppage for me.

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Why?

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Mosley by mid to late stoppage for me.

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Have replied in a couple other threads about the matchup... But basically I feel, just like you say may be the case.. That Shane will be able to walk through alot of Collazos shots and outmuscle him. In turn, I think people expect to much of Collazo or rate him too highly based on the Hatton fight. Lets not forget noones denying Hatton wasn't effective at welterweight, yet he was still having no problem landing shots and even combinations on Collazo. Mosley is much faster and stronger than Ricky at welter, he can also take a great punch I see no way Collazo will hurt him. Luis has also said that he hasn't sparred with one natural welterweight in this fight, and he's not preparing for power. Big mistake considering Mosley is coming down from 154 where he has shown good power. I just don't feel Collazo is capable of performing much better then he did against Hatton,and even that wouldn't be enough because Mosley is a bigger, better welterweight. Collazo is a good counter puncher but he will fight to the pace set by the other man on the inside and I think Mosley will just be alot stronger than he can take. Do expect it to be competitive, but only for a time as Collazo will have to trade with him to win rounds and I just see him taking considerably more punishment.

SSM decision. 8)
Heres how I see it...

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I'm gonna take SSM by UD, pretty decisive win for Mosley by 3 or 4 rds.... I think SSMs vet. skills and tactics will do it for him..... His hand speed is better then Collazo, SSM knows how to put punches together well and I think ultimately Collazo will not be able to find a rythim as SSM will mix it up.....

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Mosley wins impressive, 6th R KO O0

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CC,for all the effort and I hope everything is cool with the fam. I'm actually going with Collazo here,the southpaw stance will give Shane problems,Luis has fast fast hands and can bang too. His lack of power could be a big factor though,especially if Shane realises he can walk through Collazo's output. However,Luis will be smart,he'll be elusive and pick his spots,I think tight points win for Collazo. I would not be surprised if Shane won though.

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I have an itch on my funny bone that tells me that El Gamo is right and Collazo takes this one. Really close but i think he pulls it off.

Is Mosley even gonna be Shane anymore ???

He went up to 154 and then came down to 147 and then back up to 154 for 2 more fights and now back to 147 ??? What toll has this taken on his body ???

Im going for collazo by UD; i thinks its his time now, at 25 its time to shine, shanes getting on at 35, i think collazo's super fast hand speed, very cadgy style makes him hard to hit, hes gunnna cause shane all sorts of problems i expect collazo to come in to this in tip top shape, ready for big out put in every round, i think he will be the one going strong in the championship rounds, and those will be the rounds he seals it in IMO.

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Mosley by mid to late stoppage for me.

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Have replied in a couple other threads about the matchup... But basically I feel, just like you say may be the case.. That Shane will be able to walk through alot of Collazos shots and outmuscle him. In turn, I think people expect to much of Collazo or rate him too highly based on the Hatton fight. Lets not forget noones denying Hatton wasn't effective at welterweight, yet he was still having no problem landing shots and even combinations on Collazo. Mosley is much faster and stronger than Ricky at welter, he can also take a great punch I see no way Collazo will hurt him. Luis has also said that he hasn't sparred with one natural welterweight in this fight, and he's not preparing for power. Big mistake considering Mosley is coming down from 154 where he has shown good power. I just don't feel Collazo is capable of performing much better then he did against Hatton,and even that wouldn't be enough because Mosley is a bigger, better welterweight. Collazo is a good counter puncher but he will fight to the pace set by the other man on the inside and I think Mosley will just be alot stronger than he can take. Do expect it to be competitive, but only for a time as Collazo will have to trade with him to win rounds and I just see him taking considerably more punishment.

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Nice analysis. However,Collazo also showed he can bang in his fight with Rivera in which he was getting his ass handed to him early on but came back strong towards the end of the fight(a MUST SEE FIGHT PEEPS) and Rivera ia a big,strong man.

Where did you hear about Luis sparring? I ask because I'm sure I read he sparred with alot of bigger guys.

I don't think Collazo has to trade to win,I think one of his strengths is that he is very very versatile. I can see him being elusive,picking his spots,landing flashy combinations to impress the judges and nicking the rounds. I am actually really excited about this fight,it looks like a good styles match up.

http://www.boxingbuzz.com/peter-klitschko/jgon23.htm


Ice Cold posted this article a couple days ago I think.. Read what he says. Kind of strange imo since Mosley's going to be the hardest puncher he's ever fought. Ive seen his fight with Rivera too, and to be honest going by that fight he would have almost no chance against Mosley. It was a great fight but Rivera is not the fighter Mosley is, assuming he hasn't grown ancient since he fought Vargas. Collazo will have to have really improved to beat Mosley I think. He did improve since the Rivera fight, but how much better can he get?

A soldier's effort on this one Wacko, really appreciated, all our thoughts are with you my man.

My head is overuling my heart on this fight, so I say Mosley UD. The match up is a great one and Collazo definatly has a big chance, but I've been watching a lot of Shne recently and if he's 90% the fighter he was in his prime at 147 he could be #1 in the division no doubt.

This is from the New York Times. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/10/sp.../10boxing.html
Thought you might like to read it.

LAS VEGAS, Feb. 9 — The assortment of tattoos crisscrossing Luis Collazo’s upper body are difficult to miss when he steps into the ring. Even Collazo is not sure how many tattoos he has. He stopped counting at 30.

“I got the first one when I was 17,” said Collazo, a 25-year-old former Golden Gloves champion. “Over the years, it became an addiction. I’m not done yet.”

Collazo (27-2, 13 knockouts) hopes to leave a different mark Saturday night, when he faces Shane Mosley (43-4, 37 knockouts) for the World Boxing Council welterweight title at Mandalay Bay Events Center. This is the opportunity of a lifetime for Collazo after Kermit Cintron backed out of the fight in January because of a contract dispute.

It has been a long journey for Collazo, from Brooklyn’s Starrett City Boxing Club, where he began boxing at 12, to the glamorous Mandalay Bay Casino, where his image and Mosley’s appear on billboards to promote the fight. Beating Mosley, a three-time world champion, would be the signature moment in Collazo’s career. It would be an upset that would undoubtedly lead to greater exposure and bigger paydays.

“Critics have me as the underdog, but I’ve been waiting for this all my life,” Collazo said Thursday, scoffing at the Las Vegas oddsmakers who have made him more than a 3-1 underdog. “It’s exciting. I’m enjoying the moment. I’m young, I’ve got great hand speed, I’m hungry and I’m determined. I can’t wait. I don’t have anything to prove. I’m just going to do what I do.”

Collazo has a history of capitalizing on his opportunities. He defeated José Antonio Rivera in 2005 to win the World Boxing Association welterweight championship, taking the fight on two weeks notice after Thomas Damgaard pulled out with pneumonia.

But defeating Mosley on short notice poses a greater challenge. Immediately after signing the contract, Collazo left Brooklyn and headed for Hollywood, Fla., where he trained intensely for five weeks, sharpening his skills and shedding weight. Between fights, Collazo’s weight can approach 170 pounds, but at Friday’s weigh-in he was 147. “We were running, bike riding, swimming in the morning, then coming into the gym at two in the afternoon,” said Nirmal Lorick, the trainer for Collazo. “We also did Pilates classes for two weeks. When you’re young, you can work like that. It was a good camp. Making the weight wasn’t a problem.

“Shane’s going to see a younger version of himself, a young Luis Collazo,” he added. “I have a lot of respect for Shane. “He’s a future Hall of Famer, and anybody who doesn’t believe that needs to check their head. But this is Luis’s time. He wants to make a name for himself.”

Collazo lost his W.B.A. title last year when he dropped a controversial 12-round decision to Ricky Hatton. Many at ringside believed Collazo had won, and his strong showing made him a viable opponent for Mosley.

Fighting in a main event in Las Vegas on HBO is nothing new for Mosley, whose impressive résumé includes two victories over both Oscar De La Hoya and Fernando Vargas. Although he complimented Collazo on his style and hand speed Thursday, Mosley also made it clear that he expected to win.

“I’m just too good right now, too sharp,” said Mosley, who knocked out Vargas in the sixth round last July. “I was motivated by watching Collazo’s tapes. He’s good. But I haven’t felt this good in a long time. I’m ready for anybody who jumps into the ring with me.”

Collazo views things differently, and the fight raises interesting questions. Is Mosley, 35, still the fighter he once was? Will Collazo’s left-handed style cause problems for Mosley? Will Mosley, who has fought at 154 pounds since 2003, be negatively impacted by dropping down to 147 pounds?

Nothing about Thursday’s news conference seemed to faze Collazo. He sat quietly wearing sunglasses and listening to music through headphones while Lorick traded barbs with Mosley’s trainer and father, Jack Mosley. Collazo leaves the trash talking to others. He clearly feels the most comfortable in the gym, where he earned a reputation in New York by winning the Golden Gloves 147-pound novice division when he was 16, and the open division at 18. Collazo qualified for the 2000 Olympic trials, but a thumb injury prevented him from competing for a spot on the United States team.

With only 13 knockouts in 29 fights, Collazo relies on speed more than power. He will also count on his elusiveness. He said that a host of friends and family members would attend Saturday’s fight, hoping that his next tattoo would come at Mosley’s expense.

“I’m not only faster, but more accurate,” Collazo said. “Mosley’s a great boxer, but I believe I’m bringing more to the table right now. I’m not intimidated. I’m ready.”

CC, for the DRBR Wacks

Im going to be one of the odd ones out this week and pick a Collazo decision victory. Mosley is coming back down at the age of 35, and though he looked good against a version of Vargas that was frankly appalling second time out, he wast doing all that much before that....

Collzao is younger, seems hungry and it may well be time for a change...

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CC, for the DRBR Wacks

Im going to be one of the odd ones out this week and pick a Collazo decision victory. Mosley is coming back down at the age of 35, and though he looked good against a version of Vargas that was frankly appalling second time out, he wast doing all that much before that....

Collzao is younger, seems hungry and it may well be time for a change...

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Man I cant believe your pickng against a durable, still fast, powerful.. 10x the experience 1st ballot hall of famer and one of this generations fearless bad a**, take on all comers Shane Mosely... Completely baffling. A guy who couldnt finish off a blown up lightweight who took the fight on short notice because HBO basically made Ricky take this fight...

Colazzo is getting so much undeserved hype.... I promise when Mosely has him counting Ceiling tiles, I wont say I told you so ;)

If thats the logic because of age and hunger will pull Collazo thru, that must mean Mayweather will whitewash and pitch a shutout against Oscar... Seeing Colazzo couldnt hold Floyds Jock and Shane beat Oscar 2x (disputed or not) :-\

C'mon guys...

:coolclick: Wacks I'm dealing with family adversity too, your not alone bud ;)

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CC, for the DRBR Wacks

Im going to be one of the odd ones out this week and pick a Collazo decision victory. Mosley is coming back down at the age of 35, and though he looked good against a version of Vargas that was frankly appalling second time out, he wast doing all that much before that....

Collzao is younger, seems hungry and it may well be time for a change...

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Man I cant believe your pickng against a durable, still fast, powerful.. 10x the experience 1st ballot hall of famer and one of this generations fearless bad a**, take on all comers Shane Mosely... Completely baffling. A guy who couldnt finish off a blown up lightweight who took the fight on short notice because HBO basically made Ricky take this fight...

Colazzo is getting so much undeserved hype.... I promise when Mosely has him counting Ceiling tiles, I wont say I told you so ;)

If thats the logic because of age and hunger will pull Collazo thru, that must mean Mayweather will whitewash and pitch a shutout against Oscar... Seeing Colazzo couldnt hold Floyds Jock and Shane beat Oscar 2x (disputed or not) :-\

C'mon guys...

:coolclick: Wacks I'm dealing with family adversity too, your not alone bud ;)

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I wouldnt be going this way if it was the Mosley of yesteryear, but it isnt that Mosley. Collazo isnt the second coming or anything akin but he is a decent fighter and may well be fighting the right fighter at the right time.

As for the Oscar: Mayweather fight, I do think Mayweather will win most of the rounds...

Mosley has way too much class for Collazo and will frustrate him by mixing things up.
I don't see a KO because Collazo is well bearded but a Clear points win by 2/3 rounds for SSM is how i see it.

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Mosley has way too much class for Collazo and will frustrate him by mixing things up.
I don't see a KO because Collazo is well bearded but a Clear points win by 2/3 rounds for SSM is how i see it.

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Agreed on this post.
I don't think youthful hunger is enough.
Hand speed kills. 9 out of 10 times, I'm gonna pick the quicker guy.
Even the times where Collazo makes it a competitive, I don't see him hurting Mosely. Or he won't press hard enough to do any sustaining damage in the chances he does get.
Couple of slick guys in there, quicker man will and should win. UD for Mosley in what'll probably be a fairly slow paced fight.

Easy win for Mosely, Collazo is going to getting owned really really badly.

Mosely knows a good win here could set him up for the winner of Mayweather De La Hoya. Who wouldn't want to see Mayweather take on Suger Shane?

He's not going to let some weird little tatooed freak get in the way of that mega payday.

Collazo is overrated, Hatton is overrated.

Collazo barely beat Riveria, a guy who had his ass handed to him several times over when he fought Travis Simms last month. Simms, a slick boxer, hadn't fought in over 2 years yet totally destroyed Riveria.

Collazo doesn't have the power to hurt Shane, Shane will walk through him and bust him up.

I see this fight being as onesided as De La Hoya Mayorga.



On another note, I hope your Gran is ok Wacko, God bless you and your family, hope your all coping ok. :coolclick: for still returning for your rbr duty. :)

I think Mosely will have to be sharp, but he will, and though he'll find Collazo a challenge in some respects, will dominate.

Mosely by mid-late stoppage.

Things being what they are...here I am...back for some DRBR coverage.

The fight starts later on tonight & I had some down time for a few moments & thought that I'd toss in a few thoughts here & there.

First of all...thanks for the love fellars.

:coolclick: s to all me bruvuh's from ovuh muvah's!

Alrighty...this will be a bit more choppy & sloppy...but here's what I think on tonight's match up...

Personally, I like what I saw from Collazo.

I think that the kid's got "some goods"...but I don't think that he's got "the goods"...atleast not the kind it will take to beat Mosley.

Everyone rips into Mosley for his losses...myself included...but the fact remains that Mosley is an amazing fighter that's generally a beaut in the ring. Mosley is one of the finer students of the game & he is indeed what embodies & coins the phrase "the sweet science".

I asked earlier if Mosley still had what it takes or if he could still be "sugar sweet"?

I, honestly, believe that he can.

I have never been a huge fan of Mosley...the man...but you'd be a fool not to admire Shane or say that the man is unskilled. Shane is one hell of a boxer. Losing to a prime Forrest or Wright is no shame, oddly enough for me...him beating Oscar was what really killed it for me.

That's no way to be though, especially if your'e a fan of the sport. If your'e a fan of the sport...you have to recognize Shane for the attributes that he has & for the fact that he generally conducts himself like a true champion.

That being said & me going on & on & on about how great Shane is...some focus should be turned to Collazo.

IWO, I think that he should have either taken the decision or drawn against Hatton. I think that he did enough to pull out a close decision after the first 3 rounds were in the bag. He won't have the same luxuries with Mosley that he did against Hatton. Hatton, being a pressure fighter that he is, was not really able to establish any form of dominance for the bulk of the fight & he more or less gassed out in the latter half of the match.

Mosley will not do this...atleast I don't think that he will.

I gotta pick Mosley.

What can I say? The devil that you know, I guess.

Mosely by UD.

It will be a lot more competitive than what the score cards will reflect. The fight will be competitive with Shane edging out most of the rounds (8 to 4). Collazo will have a good showing but it wont be enough to offset Shane.

cc Mr. wacko hope everything is well in your world.

Alright...everybody has FINALLY been clicked.

The fight's about 45 away. Cheers.

Mosely impressed me against Vargas. He seems to have developed more power.
I am looking for a midround KO win for him.

Hey all. I have a bunch of friends coming over.......which is great to watch the fights with, so I won't be on here. But anyway, cheers. Bud heavy tonight. Luzcano Points. Mosley UD. Peace out everyone have a good night.

What's up Wack?

Glad to know you're still on top of the RBR tonight! I drank waaaayyy too much last night and havent gotten out of my sweatpants or been out of my place all day today.. Needless to say, I've really been looking forward to the rbr tonight!

whats anyone think of the Vivian Harris fight?

good evening mates. maybe we're in store for a good one tonight.

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good evening mates. maybe we're in store for a good one tonight.

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cc for that collazo article you posted on page 2

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good evening mates. maybe we're in store for a good one tonight.

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cc for that collazo article you posted on page 2

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thanks man. it kind of got me rooting for collazo.

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What's up Wack?

Glad to know you're still on top of the RBR tonight! I drank waaaayyy too much last night and havent gotten out of my sweatpants or been out of my place all day today.. Needless to say, I've really been looking forward to the rbr tonight!

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Thanks babe! Should be a goody. :coolclick:

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What's up Wack?

Glad to know you're still on top of the RBR tonight! I drank waaaayyy too much last night and havent gotten out of my sweatpants or been out of my place all day today.. Needless to say, I've really been looking forward to the rbr tonight!

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Thanks babe! Should be a goody. :coolclick:

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cc wacko looking forward to this going to stay up for this

someone please drink a shot or two for me, and a beer or two. i have to stay straight tonight.

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someone please drink a shot or two for me, and a beer or two. i have to stay straight tonight.

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Done. Four shots ago. ;D

Sup guys!!!

Well to start this i'm going for Harris via KO in the 5

My blood is boiling, I've been looking forward to this card and my stream still ain't up, any idea when the first fight starts? Last time I missed the whole of the Jesus v Diaz fight.

LET'S GET READY TO RUMBLE!!!!!


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