The hbo fallouts...

So most will know that hbo seems to fall out with alot of people..
George foreman used to do commentating with merchant and lampley..And since i dont have hbo and am not in america..I never either knew he didnt work for hbo anymore.. or wouldnt realise since i didnt see the fights weekly...
And roy jones had a fallout with hbo too..he doesnt fight on hbo and he doesnt commentate anymore..

So what was it all about.. I read something about the roy jones thing a while back but remember nothing anymore..But i have a feeling it wasnt all that serious..But i couldnt find anything on the foreman fallout apart from a video of lampley getting interviewed by jose aguire( if thats spelt right)..
And it was right after tito- mayorga ..The very last question was just..' do you miss working with george foreman' ..And lampley said very sternly and bluntly..No.. and the vid ended..

So can anyone explain what happened to me?
Peace

Good question, BHB

I'd like to know the answer to this myself.

Good question, I didn't even realise they had fallen out with Big George.

Foreman seems at surface value at least to be one of the most affable and easy to get along with guys in boxing, I would have thought he would be great company to be around.

If he did fall out with Lampley, going on Lampleys track record as a wife beater then I'd side with Big George :P

I know they let Roy Jones go though, I remember them being annoyed by the fact that he would turn up late on the night, and would not be around for rehearsals and pre fight briefings.

I don't miss Jones much but I did like old George.


They have Lennox now who to my mind is just utterly pointless. He doesn't say anything of any value of kind whatsoever, in fact when they ask him a question you already know exactly how he will answer it, usually by way of a mumbling contradiction.

I'd much rather they ditched Lewis in favour of George Foreman.

But ultimately I would like James Toney to be a commentator, now that would make for some real interesting banter :P

I would like James Toney to be a commentator --Bilbo


Toney, Peter and Gatti would make an awesome team of commentators.

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Good question, I didn't even realise they had fallen out with Big George.

Foreman seems at surface value at least to be one of the most affable and easy to get along with guys in boxing, I would have thought he would be great company to be around.

If he did fall out with Lampley, going on Lampleys track record as a wife beater then I'd side with Big George :P

I know they let Roy Jones go though, I remember them being annoyed by the fact that he would turn up late on the night, and would not be around for rehearsals and pre fight briefings.

I don't miss Jones much but I did like old George.


They have Lennox now who to my mind is just utterly pointless. He doesn't say anything of any value of kind whatsoever, in fact when they ask him a question you already know exactly how he will answer it, usually by way of a mumbling contradiction.

I'd much rather they ditched Lewis in favour of George Foreman.

But ultimately I would like James Toney to be a commentator, now that would make for some real interesting banter :P

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Hahah... Thats what they should do..
And its what they would do if they really meant it when they say..
Its not tv!! Its HBO!!..
James is too badass and controversial for them.. That and he fights showtime ..lol
Peace

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Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla

I would like James Toney to be a commentator --Bilbo


Toney, Peter and Gatti would make an awesome team of commentators.

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Lol you cant understand anything any of them say....

But then again..Roy and lennox.. :-\

Yuh guess they would fit right in... :)

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Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla

I would like James Toney to be a commentator --Bilbo


Toney, Peter and Gatti would make an awesome team of commentators.

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that we'd all have to learn a new form of the English dialect to understand any of them! :P ;D

Seiroulsly though...I never knew that HBO & Foreman fell out.

As far as Jones goes...bilbo is close to be on spot for this one but Jones also got the boot because of his "animal cruelty" public image.

They told him to stop "cock fighting" :-X ...& he pretty much told 'em all to suck it!

Yeah who knows. No matter what issues came up with Big George or Roy, they were both great to have there imo. Foreman wasn't exactly on point with most of his comments as Roy was, but he was entertaining, and as for Jones.. I thought he often gave some great insight. THey need someone who has been in the ring no question, but Lennox for me is a useless turd when it comes to commentating. SO boring. Emmanuel Steward is a bit dissapointing as well imo, considering how much knowledge the guy obviously has.. Roy was a great analyst for HBO I think, best they've ever had.

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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB

So most will know that hbo seems to fall out with alot of people..
George foreman used to do commentating with merchant and lampley..And since i dont have hbo and am not in america..I never either knew he didnt work for hbo anymore.. or wouldnt realise since i didnt see the fights weekly...
And roy jones had a fallout with hbo too..he doesnt fight on hbo and he doesnt commentate anymore..

So what was it all about.. I read something about the roy jones thing a while back but remember nothing anymore..But i have a feeling it wasnt all that serious..But i couldnt find anything on the foreman fallout apart from a video of lampley getting interviewed by jose aguire( if thats spelt right)..
And it was right after tito- mayorga ..The very last question was just..' do you miss working with george foreman' ..And lampley said very sternly and bluntly..No.. and the vid ended..

So can anyone explain what happened to me?
Peace

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None of them were fully employed by HBO as announcers....they worked on a fight by fight basis....From what I understand about George they had some negative feed back from fans about George being biased during announcing....

I remeber Foremans last broad cast, he said he was retiring from HBO in order to return to the Ring(which never happened)

As for Jones, he was fired for his no shows and tardyness.

someone I really wanted to see as a commentator was Mike tyson :(

I wasn't shedding any tears when Foreman left. He said something that made sense about once every five fights.

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

I wasn't shedding any tears when Foreman left. He said something that made sense about once every five fights.

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Nahh thats harsh..

I really liked foreman..He has skills at commentary..
Yeh he used to repeat himself i.e ..Oh there he goes..Chasing a puncher..You should never follow a guy who can punch..lol..What made me laugh is that george had all these things to say about how to box... and alot of it was pretty good..But he never did any of that himself..LOL

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

I wasn't shedding any tears when Foreman left. He said something that made sense about once every five fights.

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Nahh thats harsh..

I really liked foreman..He has skills at commentary..
Yeh he used to repeat himself i.e ..Oh there he goes..Chasing a puncher..You should never follow a guy who can punch..lol..What made me laugh is that george had all these things to say about how to box... and alot of it was pretty good..But he never did any of that himself..LOL

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I duno, I always thought Foreman said things that made no sense whatsoever. He and Merchant used to argue all the time.
I thought Roy Jones always did a good job, for what it's worth.

Damn, never heard of the George fallout.
The thing I like about Roy and George is that they both have great public voices.
It's fun listening to them talk.
Even when Manny and Lennox are trying to say things of validity, it's brain numbing listening to them trying to spit out the words.
But when George is saying things even things with no substance, at least he says them with a passion! :) Gotta respect a guy who believes in his cause whatever the hell that cause is!

Actually I thought Roy Jones was pretty good as an announcer...Not biased and unlike many fighters was able to put perspective into fights....Many guest announcers who were boxers never give anyone else credit deserved

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Actually I thought Roy Jones was pretty good as an announcer...Not biased and unlike many fighters was able to put perspective into fights....Many guest announcers who were boxers never give anyone else credit deserved

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Yeh i totally agree.. That was one thing i noticed about george..Of course i dont hold it against him..
But i did tend to notice he favoured certain fighters..
One for instance is felix trinidad..He must have been a fan of tito's or something because he gave him some incredible praise during a few fights i remember.. Especially the mamadou thiam fight..
I remember george spoke of how god blessed tito with such power.. You cant learn what felix has in the gym and that some of it is technique.. Another example of repetition is how during alot of tito fights he would explain how tito stands on the ball of the right foot and bends down at the knees before firing a shot.. how he came up with a punch like a track runner..lol
But fair play to him..Tito is great :)
Peace

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Originally Posted by lance Uppercut

I remeber Foremans last broad cast, he said he was retiring from HBO in order to return to the Ring(which never happened)

As for Jones, he was fired for his no shows and tardyness.

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I recall him saying he wanted to spend more time with his wife and Family, it was before the mention of the 58 year old's comeback, that didn't happen.

I always thought there was some friction between he and Larry Merchant. The last couple of fights there were some awkward on-air disagreements between them.

I bet ya the George's professional personality didn't want to go public with it.

I also cannot remember why RJJ was let go, but seem to remember reading about it somewhere.

The last time I saw/heard George co-commentating was the Cotto/Malignaggi fight...I don't even
know if it was on HBO...but I always liked George,he surprised from time to time with real boxing-
wisdom or insights and he was funny ;) ...called Malignaggi "a tough cooky..." lol ;D...

Big Geroge. I enjoyed him... Hell he was funny . O0

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Originally Posted by JohnnyKickAss

The last time I saw/heard George co-commentating was the Cotto/Malignaggi fight...I don't even
know if it was on HBO...but I always liked George,he surprised from time to time with real boxing-
wisdom or insights and he was funny ;) ...called Malignaggi "a tough cooky..." lol ;D...

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That wasn't on HBO, it was an independently produced PPV, I think by Bob Arum.
I can't remember which fight was Foreman's last with HBO, but it was before that Cotto fight.