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Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds: The Cotto & Miranda Show
Finally...Wacko's back in the game after far to long of a hiatus...
I present to you...once again another installment of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds: The Cotto & Miranda Show!
Once again...it's on.
Saturday March the 3rd, should be the shoot out of all shoot outs as the card is loaded with Super Stars & full blown knockout artists!
It's time to pack our bags boys & girls as we load up to follow HBO all the way to Puerto for a few rounds of World Championship Boxing!
For many boxing fans this could be sorted out as a mega-card seeing as both the main event & undercard offers pounds of explosive action.
First up the undercard, if one actually wants to insult it by calling it what it is in appearance, is the return of hard hitting crowd pleaser Edison Miranda (27 wins, 1 loss, & 24 ko's) as he moves up in weight to take on heavy handed prospect Allan Green (23 wins, 0 losses, & 16 ko's) in a ten-round super middleweight fight.
After totally destroying Willie Gibbs in a vicious first round knockout last December on "Boxing After Dark", Miranda has set the bar rather high for himself. Fans are begining to lable Miranda as the dark horse of the middle weight division. Many say that he's the hardest-hitting fighter pound-for-pound from 160lbs to 175lbs & that he could easily rule all of the above with his show stopping, jaw dropping power. Out of his 24 stoppages, seventeen of them came in the first round & that my friends is damned impressive. The question will now be: Can he do the same thing in the super middleweight division? Can he rock & shock all the rest?
Saturday night will be a good barometer for Miranda's pressure and future place among the elite fighters of 160lbs to 175lbs. Personally, I'd rather see him stay at 160lbs than move up to 175lbs...there's plenty to do at 160 & 168.
As for the evening's main event, welterweight champion Miguel Cotto (28 fights with 0 losses & 23 ko's) faces off against Oktay Urkal (38 wins with 3 losses & 12 ko's) in what I expect to be a short and brutual attempt at a 12 round welterweight title defence. In December 2006, Cotto's Welterweight debut Cotto pretty much destroyed the highly regarded & undefeated prospect Carlos Quintana. Quintana was looked on as a fast rising star, but Cotto outshined him for the duration of the match.
If Cotto can pull out all the stops again there are a handful of possible mega-fights on the horizon such as a match against Judah or Margarito.
Standing in the way of Cotto's stardom is Germany's Oktay Urkal. Urkal is a savy 11 year veteran with a pedigree that just fell short against some of the best light welters of the game. Urkal lost to Kostya Tszyu & Vivian Harris, no shame in that...but if he falls under Cotto's fist...he might lose all credibility.
Things have finally slowed a bit on my end...so I should be back in business soon.
I've missed you guys...so let's break out the chips & salsa & your poison of choice on this one...once again...it's fight night on HBO's World Championship Boxing!
Cheers & koneecheewah bitches!
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I'm picking Cotto & Miranda by knockout.
Cheers.
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Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds: The Cotto & Miranda Show
CC. Welcome back, my friend. Thought you had left us....
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CC. Welcome back, my friend. Thought you had left us....
:coolclick: back babe.
I would never leave my people or this place...but my free time has been...unfree of late due to an illness in my family & all the biz that goes along with it has been very VERY detrimental to Wacko's boxing time & forum duties...but I am...as I said...partially back in the game.
You know I gotta spread the love...even if it's spread thin.
Glad to see your'e still in the joint.
Who you pickin & how?
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CC. Welcome back, my friend. Thought you had left us....
:coolclick: back babe.
I would never leave my people or this place...but my free time has been...unfree of late due to an illness in my family & all the biz that goes along with it has been very VERY detrimental to Wacko's boxing time & forum duties...but I am...as I said...partially back in the game.
You know I gotta spread the love...even if it's spread thin.
Glad to see your'e still in the joint.
Who you pickin & how?
First things first...... my best to you and your family. I hope everything gets resolved and back to normal for you.
As to who I'm picking, I've got both Cotto and Miranda by KO. Hardly "going out on a limb", but hey..... gotta pick 'em like I see 'em.
;D
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Glad to see you back wack!! cc
Hope all is good now!
Peace
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I got both Cotto & Miranda by KO.... 8)
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I got Green decision.
Really? You think? I just don't see him being able to take Miranda's power & he can only stay away from him for so long.
Miranda will catch him...but I think that it'll be late & I think that he'll show out for a bit until Edison clocks him. Miranda can be outboxed. It's been done before by Abraham...no matter what anyone says.
Miranda is limited in skill...but he makes up for a lot of it in power & pure aggression.
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
First things first...... my best to you and your family. I hope everything gets resolved and back to normal for you.
As to who I'm picking, I've got both Cotto and Miranda by KO. Hardly "going out on a limb", but hey..... gotta pick 'em like I see 'em.
;D
Thanks doggy. Everything should work itself out after a few more weeks...I'm just spread a little thin.
Agreed on the picks. I'll be shocked as shit if they come out the other way.
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Glad to see you back wack!! cc
Hope all is good now!
Peace
Thanks babe.
All is getting better. I missed this place as much as it seems to have missed me...but as I said...I've been looking forward to actually getting to chat with my people & cover a match again...finally.
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I got both Cotto & Miranda by KO.... 8)
Me too...hope it works out that way. :coolclick:
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I got Green decision.
Really? You think? I just don't see him being able to take Miranda's power & he can only stay away from him for so long.
Miranda will catch him...but I think that it'll be late & I think that he'll show out for a bit until Edison clocks him. Miranda can be outboxed. It's been done before by Abraham...no matter what anyone says.
Miranda is limited in skill...but he makes up for a lot of it in power & pure aggression.
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
First things first...... my best to you and your family. I hope everything gets resolved and back to normal for you.
As to who I'm picking, I've got both Cotto and Miranda by KO. Hardly "going out on a limb", but hey..... gotta pick 'em like I see 'em.
;D
Thanks doggy. Everything should work itself out after a few more weeks...I'm just spread a little thin.
Agreed on the picks. I'll be shocked as shit if they come out the other way.
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
Glad to see you back wack!! cc
Hope all is good now!
Peace
Thanks babe.
All is getting better. I missed this place as much as it seems to have missed me...but as I said...I've been looking forward to actually getting to chat with my people & cover a match again...finally.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
I got both Cotto & Miranda by KO.... 8)
Me too...hope it works out that way. :coolclick:
Yeah but Green is a better boxer and he hits harder then Abraham imo. He has knockouts at Light Heavyweight and Super Middleweight, he can crack with the best of them. And Miranda hasn't been hit as hard as Green can and will hit him(the same can be said of Green) but Green has a good boxing style and can outbox Miranda, and who's to say that Miranda will have the enough in him to catch Green late if Green has the power to hurt Miranda it will be a very interesting fight..
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I feel green has defence issues personally.. And has had a hard time in recent fights with lesser opposition then miranda..
Certainly not a long shot for green.. A truely great prospect..But we are going to see really how tough green is when they get it on..
Peace
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I got Green decision.
Really? You think? I just don't see him being able to take Miranda's power & he can only stay away from him for so long.
Miranda will catch him...but I think that it'll be late & I think that he'll show out for a bit until Edison clocks him. Miranda can be outboxed. It's been done before by Abraham...no matter what anyone says.
Miranda is limited in skill...but he makes up for a lot of it in power & pure aggression.
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
First things first...... my best to you and your family. I hope everything gets resolved and back to normal for you.
As to who I'm picking, I've got both Cotto and Miranda by KO. Hardly "going out on a limb", but hey..... gotta pick 'em like I see 'em.
;D
Thanks doggy. Everything should work itself out after a few more weeks...I'm just spread a little thin.
Agreed on the picks. I'll be shocked as S*** if they come out the other way.
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
Glad to see you back wack!! cc
Hope all is good now!
Peace
Thanks babe.
All is getting better. I missed this place as much as it seems to have missed me...but as I said...I've been looking forward to actually getting to chat with my people & cover a match again...finally.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
I got both Cotto & Miranda by KO.... 8)
Me too...hope it works out that way. :coolclick:
Yeah but Green is a better boxer and he hits harder then Abraham imo. He has knockouts at Light Heavyweight and Super Middleweight, he can crack with the best of them. And Miranda hasn't been hit as hard as Green can and will hit him(the same can be said of Green) but Green has a good boxing style and can outbox Miranda, and who's to say that Miranda will have the enough in him to catch Green late if Green has the power to hurt Miranda it will be a very interesting fight..
Agreed...but I honestly believe that Miranda hits as hard as most of the top 175'ers & I'm more for boxing skills than power...but Miranda has me convinced that he can change the fight with just one shot.
I'd love to see him tested & even dropped...but in the end I think that Green is a hype machine waiting on a breakdown.
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Wow these fights are already happening? Man...
Anyways...Miranda KO. I'm pretty sure on that one, as sure as I can be. Miranda isn't all that good in terms of pure boxing ability, but Green has lapses in defense. I think Miranda dominates and knocks him out inside of 6.
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I got Green decision.
Really? You think? I just don't see him being able to take Miranda's power & he can only stay away from him for so long.
Miranda will catch him...but I think that it'll be late & I think that he'll show out for a bit until Edison clocks him. Miranda can be outboxed. It's been done before by Abraham...no matter what anyone says.
Miranda is limited in skill...but he makes up for a lot of it in power & pure aggression.
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
First things first...... my best to you and your family. I hope everything gets resolved and back to normal for you.
As to who I'm picking, I've got both Cotto and Miranda by KO. Hardly "going out on a limb", but hey..... gotta pick 'em like I see 'em.
;D
Thanks doggy. Everything should work itself out after a few more weeks...I'm just spread a little thin.
Agreed on the picks. I'll be shocked as S*** if they come out the other way.
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
Glad to see you back wack!! cc
Hope all is good now!
Peace
Thanks babe.
All is getting better. I missed this place as much as it seems to have missed me...but as I said...I've been looking forward to actually getting to chat with my people & cover a match again...finally.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
I got both Cotto & Miranda by KO.... 8)
Me too...hope it works out that way. :coolclick:
Yeah but Green is a better boxer and he hits harder then Abraham imo. He has knockouts at Light Heavyweight and Super Middleweight, he can crack with the best of them. And Miranda hasn't been hit as hard as Green can and will hit him(the same can be said of Green) but Green has a good boxing style and can outbox Miranda, and who's to say that Miranda will have the enough in him to catch Green late if Green has the power to hurt Miranda it will be a very interesting fight..
Agreed...but I honestly believe that Miranda hits as hard as most of the top 175'ers & I'm more for boxing skills than power...but Miranda has me convinced that he can change the fight with just one shot.
I'd love to see him tested & even dropped...but in the end I think that Green is a hype machine waiting on a breakdown.
So could Miranda be. When they compared him to Julian Jackson....
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
I feel green has defence issues personally.. And has had a hard time in recent fights with lesser opposition then miranda..
Certainly not a long shot for green.. A truely great prospect..But we are going to see really how tough green is when they get it on..
Peace
The last 2 he's looked bad against were boxers right, people that move and have upper body movement and give you tons of different angles.
Miranda does neither imo.
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I feel green has defence issues personally.. And has had a hard time in recent fights with lesser opposition then miranda..
Good point & very well said.
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
Certainly not a long shot for green.. A truely great prospect..But we are going to see really how tough green is when they get it on..
Peace
Exactly. I want to see how well Green will handle the pressure. Lesser men have gone the distance with Green...I think that Miranda will have more chin & power than Green at the end of the night.
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Wow these fights are already happening? Man...
Anyways...Miranda KO. I'm pretty sure on that one, as sure as I can be. Miranda isn't all that good in terms of pure boxing ability, but Green has lapses in defense. I think Miranda dominates and knocks him out inside of 6.
:coolclick: Agreed.
The power is the one thing that seperates them @ the end of the night.
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I got Green decision.
Really? You think? I just don't see him being able to take Miranda's power & he can only stay away from him for so long.
Miranda will catch him...but I think that it'll be late & I think that he'll show out for a bit until Edison clocks him. Miranda can be outboxed. It's been done before by Abraham...no matter what anyone says.
Miranda is limited in skill...but he makes up for a lot of it in power & pure aggression.
:coolclick:
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Originally Posted by TitoFan
First things first...... my best to you and your family. I hope everything gets resolved and back to normal for you.
As to who I'm picking, I've got both Cotto and Miranda by KO. Hardly "going out on a limb", but hey..... gotta pick 'em like I see 'em.
;D
Thanks doggy. Everything should work itself out after a few more weeks...I'm just spread a little thin.
Agreed on the picks. I'll be shocked as S*** if they come out the other way.
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
Glad to see you back wack!! cc
Hope all is good now!
Peace
Thanks babe.
All is getting better. I missed this place as much as it seems to have missed me...but as I said...I've been looking forward to actually getting to chat with my people & cover a match again...finally.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
I got both Cotto & Miranda by KO.... 8)
Me too...hope it works out that way. :coolclick:
Yeah but Green is a better boxer and he hits harder then Abraham imo. He has knockouts at Light Heavyweight and Super Middleweight, he can crack with the best of them. And Miranda hasn't been hit as hard as Green can and will hit him(the same can be said of Green) but Green has a good boxing style and can outbox Miranda, and who's to say that Miranda will have the enough in him to catch Green late if Green has the power to hurt Miranda it will be a very interesting fight..
Agreed...but I honestly believe that Miranda hits as hard as most of the top 175'ers & I'm more for boxing skills than power...but Miranda has me convinced that he can change the fight with just one shot.
I'd love to see him tested & even dropped...but in the end I think that Green is a hype machine waiting on a breakdown.
So could Miranda be. When they compared him to Julian Jackson....
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Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
I feel green has defence issues personally.. And has had a hard time in recent fights with lesser opposition then miranda..
Certainly not a long shot for green.. A truely great prospect..But we are going to see really how tough green is when they get it on..
Peace
The last 2 he's looked bad against were boxers right, people that move and have upper body movement and give you tons of different angles.
Miranda does neither imo.
You have a good point no doubt..Its valid.. I feel just wait to see what happens on the night.. lol
All i know is the probability for it bieng a great fight is very high ;D
Peace
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He has knockouts at Light Heavyweight and Super Middleweight, he can crack with the best REST of them.
Fixed it for 'ya.....
I don't think hes been in the ring with the BEST of them.....
His best opponent has been either Linton or Bonsante.....
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cotto by late stoppage
miranda by ko middlerounds
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Cotto by KO inside of 6.
Miranda by KO. Not sure when but it will happen. I think Green can outbox him, but then it is just a matter of time before he taste Miranda's power and gets dropped.
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Welcome back, Wacko....you have been missed around this place. Here's hoping all is as well as can be with you! :coolclick:
Cotto will win handily IMO, the other with Miranda and Green Im not sure about. Could go either way..
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Cotto by KO inside of 6.
Miranda by KO. Not sure when but it will happen. I think Green can outbox him, but then it is just a matter of time before he taste Miranda's power and gets dropped.
cottos opponent went 12 rounds with kostya so he is obvisiously tough thats why i think it will last into later rounds
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I can't see Green-Miranda lasting 12. Green's best chance is to catch Miranda and hurt him which is not a stretch IMO. But I don't see Green going the full distance, just because he's a "boxer" doesn't mean he has good defense. He leaves his chin up, doesn't move his head, and he doesn't move his feet well. And he's got stamina issues, dropping weight most likely won't help that. But he could catch Miranda early and end it, he does have power, especially the left hook.
Cotto-Urkal's not even really worth thinking about, as close to a gimme as a fight can be.
And Welcome back Wacko. CC.
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But I don't see Green going the full distance, just because he's a "boxer" doesn't mean he has good defense. He leaves his chin up, doesn't move his head, and he doesn't move his feet well. And he's got stamina issues, dropping weight most likely won't help that.
:coolclick: Couldn't have put it better...
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But I don't see Green going the full distance, just because he's a "boxer" doesn't mean he has good defense. He leaves his chin up, doesn't move his head, and he doesn't move his feet well. And he's got stamina issues, dropping weight most likely won't help that.
:coolclick: Couldn't have put it better...
he fought Bonsante at 162 and he looked just fine, better then he ever has didn't he? And that was just 2 fights ago. I dont think the weight cutting will be an issue for Green.
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But I don't see Green going the full distance, just because he's a "boxer" doesn't mean he has good defense. He leaves his chin up, doesn't move his head, and he doesn't move his feet well. And he's got stamina issues, dropping weight most likely won't help that.
:coolclick: Couldn't have put it better...
he fought Bonsante at 162 and he looked just fine, better then he ever has didn't he? And that was just 2 fights ago. I dont think the weight cutting will be an issue for Green.
That's when he was facing the world's best daddy and did whatever he pleased with him. He's going to have to work a lot more versus Miranda. He isn't saying he's going to be exhausted by round 6, he's just saying it probably won't help. And it probably won't. I don't see why it would help...
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But I don't see Green going the full distance, just because he's a "boxer" doesn't mean he has good defense. He leaves his chin up, doesn't move his head, and he doesn't move his feet well. And he's got stamina issues, dropping weight most likely won't help that.
:coolclick: Couldn't have put it better...
he fought Bonsante at 162 and he looked just fine, better then he ever has didn't he? And that was just 2 fights ago. I dont think the weight cutting will be an issue for Green.
That's when he was facing the world's best daddy and did whatever he pleased with him. He's going to have to work a lot more versus Miranda. He isn't saying he's going to be exhausted by round 6, he's just saying it probably won't help. And it probably won't. I don't see why it would help...
Because Green will be the bigger man yet again. Like I said Green has fought at Light Heavu and Super Middleweight before, regardless of what Miranda weighs on fight night, he could very well weighh 175 pounds on fight night, but he won't be a 175 pounder.
Green who is the naturally bigger guy if he weighed 170 on fightnight he'd be more 170 then Miranda is 175. You get my point?
And Green has good skill, and I know you say he has these weaknesses with what he does and stuff. But he's only been caught in one fight, and since then he hasnt been. And his bad performances have been against boxers, and Miranda isn't that, and Miranda isn't going to fight going backwards, he's going to come forward, and Green can counter very well it's something John David has worked with him on.
Don't expect Miranda to walk through him. I know Miranda has power, but I think you van agree with me thats the ONLY way he beats Green. As much as you say Green's weaknesses, the ONLY way Miranda is beating Green is if he catches him, other then that Green's going to beat him.
See my point?
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I dont think that Green has a good enough defense to keep Miranda off of him long enough. Unless Green catches Miranda early I think that Miranda pulls out a (T)KO in the late rounds. Abraham is a pretty good boxer and Miranda got to him. Still dont know how Abraham went the distance.
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Well the Cotto fight is going to be a routine 5 or 6 rounder I should imagine so lets move on.
Green vs Mirando, a pick em fight for me.
I voted Miranda on the poll but actually I'll stick my neck out a little bit and say Green beats him.
Miranda is a big puncher and strong but Green can really bang himself, let's not forget Jaidon Codrington, which by the way is possibly the greatest knockout of all time!
Codrington was out cold for 15 minutes and the fight lasted less than a minute! And Codrington was the big favourite before that fight, unbeaten before and since.
Here it is for those who havn't seen it
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Green also got rocked by McRary, BUT the crucial fact for me here is that he came back, got up off the floor and won the fight by knocking Donnie out.
He's certainly not going to underestimate Miranda's power either.
I think he can beat Edison. But what a fight!
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But I don't see Green going the full distance, just because he's a "boxer" doesn't mean he has good defense. He leaves his chin up, doesn't move his head, and he doesn't move his feet well. And he's got stamina issues, dropping weight most likely won't help that.
:coolclick: Couldn't have put it better...
he fought Bonsante at 162 and he looked just fine, better then he ever has didn't he? And that was just 2 fights ago. I dont think the weight cutting will be an issue for Green.
That's when he was facing the world's best daddy and did whatever he pleased with him. He's going to have to work a lot more versus Miranda. He isn't saying he's going to be exhausted by round 6, he's just saying it probably won't help. And it probably won't. I don't see why it would help...
Because Green will be the bigger man yet again. Like I said Green has fought at Light Heavu and Super Middleweight before, regardless of what Miranda weighs on fight night, he could very well weighh 175 pounds on fight night, but he won't be a 175 pounder.
Green who is the naturally bigger guy if he weighed 170 on fightnight he'd be more 170 then Miranda is 175. You get my point?
And Green has good skill, and I know you say he has these weaknesses with what he does and stuff. But he's only been caught in one fight, and since then he hasnt been. And his bad performances have been against boxers, and Miranda isn't that, and Miranda isn't going to fight going backwards, he's going to come forward, and Green can counter very well it's something John David has worked with him on.
Don't expect Miranda to walk through him. I know Miranda has power, but I think you van agree with me thats the ONLY way he beats Green. As much as you say Green's weaknesses, the ONLY way Miranda is beating Green is if he catches him, other then that Green's going to beat him.
See my point?
I see your point, but unfortunately John David is assuming that Miranda is going to come forward and rely on his power and aggression to win this fight. What JDJ did not train for is Pantera actually outboxing Green while coming forward. Somehow I see it different than many that Miranda could actually take it easy and keep Green at a distance and outbox him. Green is cocky and when he gets hit he is going to want to trade. When this happens it will be lights out for Green.
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I'm pretty much on the same page as Pantera regarding Green.
Personally...I think that he's overratted & he'll fight stupidly against Miranda. He'll try to make a statement...because honestly...that's all Miranda has been doing & he'll want to one up him on the big screen.
I've started to warm to Miranda which is odd because he embodies all the things in boxing that do not appeal to me. I aint one for brawlers & power punchers...but the man keeps on winning & keeps on making statements punctuated with exclamation marks.
What do ya do?
Anywho...I'm picking Miranda regardless of what abilities that Green has because Abraham is twice the boxer is & their match was a fight. Green may frustrate him in the start...but if Miranda comes out full speed...Green is fwocked.
I'd love another Miranda first round KO...as backwards as that is.
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Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds: The Cotto & Miranda Show
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In addition to the Urkal fight, Cotto has a showdown with Zab Judah scheduled June 9. Cotto says that fight is not a distraction. "All I'm focusing on is the March 3rd the fight that I have with Urkal. That's all I'm thinking about right now. Once that's settled and we get it done, we'll think about what's up next and what's coming up in June." In regards to Judah's vow to knock him out in five rounds, Cotto commented, "all I can tell you is that throughout his career, Judah has always been a big talker, but seeing the actions in the ring, he has not been able to back up those words. So I'm not worried about anything he has to say."
So...Cotto's already talking about Judah...so I think that it's time that we all should.
Honestly, I think that Cotto might MIGHT be biting off a bit much with Judah. Judah's a hell of a boxer (even though I hate him) that's well equipped with enough speed to beat Cotto.
This is a fight that worries me. Thoughts? Who would you people pick in a Cotto Judah match?
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Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds: The Cotto & Miranda Show
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Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds: The Cotto & Miranda Show
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Yeah...I read that...but I want to discuss it here & now...YOU GOT A FWOCKIN PROBLEM WITH THAT MICKEY?!?!?!
In that case...I present to you...Exhibit A:
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Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds: The Cotto & Miranda Show
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I'm pretty much on the same page as Pantera regarding Green.
Personally...I think that he's overratted & he'll fight stupidly against Miranda. He'll try to make a statement...because honestly...that's all Miranda has been doing & he'll want to one up him on the big screen.
I've started to warm to Miranda which is odd because he embodies all the things in boxing that do not appeal to me. I aint one for brawlers & power punchers...but the man keeps on winning & keeps on making statements punctuated with exclamation marks.
What do ya do?
Anywho...I'm picking Miranda regardless of what abilities that Green has because Abraham is twice the boxer is & their match was a fight. Green may frustrate him in the start...but if Miranda comes out full speed...Green is fwocked.
I'd love another Miranda first round KO...as backwards as that is.
It may be wrong to assume Miranda is just gonna come in reckless. But it's just as wrong to assume that Green is gonna fight a stupid fight.
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Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds: The Cotto & Miranda Show
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I'm pretty much on the same page as Pantera regarding Green.
Personally...I think that he's overratted & he'll fight stupidly against Miranda. He'll try to make a statement...because honestly...that's all Miranda has been doing & he'll want to one up him on the big screen.
I've started to warm to Miranda which is odd because he embodies all the things in boxing that do not appeal to me. I aint one for brawlers & power punchers...but the man keeps on winning & keeps on making statements punctuated with exclamation marks.
What do ya do?
Anywho...I'm picking Miranda regardless of what abilities that Green has because Abraham is twice the boxer is & their match was a fight. Green may frustrate him in the start...but if Miranda comes out full speed...Green is fwocked.
I'd love another Miranda first round KO...as backwards as that is.
It may be wrong to assume Miranda is just gonna come in reckless.
You are...glad you admitted the possibility...kept me from singling you out. ;)
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But it's just as wrong to assume that Green is gonna fight a stupid fight.
Nope. I'm right...your'e wrong. Deal with it. ;D
Seriously though...your'e wrong. Green's gonna get slaughtered. Deal.
No...seriously...if Green boxes smart...you are correct...he could win...but I just don't see him performing that way against someone of Miranda's force of will.
Miranda will back him up & pressure him like he has never been pressured before, IWO. Then again...as I said...you could be wrong...but for arguements sake...let's say that I'm right. Do you believe that he can take Miranda's power & work through it?
I just don't.
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Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds: The Cotto & Miranda Sho
I think Green can.
If his chin was average we've seen his heart already to get up and win by knockout. I think Green will do good in this fight and win.
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Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds: The Cotto & Miranda Sho
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I think Green can.
I don't...but props to ya for supporting your man.
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If his chin was average we've seen his heart already to get up and win by knockout. I think Green will do good in this fight and win.
His chin is average & wev'e not seen him in against a power puncher like Miranda.
I think that he'll do good for the first 6 rounds or so & then get knocked out.
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Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds: The Cotto & Miranda Show
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I think Green can.
I don't...but props to ya for supporting your man.
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Originally Posted by Majesty
If his chin was average we've seen his heart already to get up and win by knockout. I think Green will do good in this fight and win.
His chin is average & wev'e not seen him in against a power puncher like Miranda.
I think that he'll do good for the first 6 rounds or so & then get knocked out.
Do you agree that if Miranda doesn't catch him with THAT one shot or that Green can take it well enough to not get knocked out that Miranda is losing this fight?
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Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds: The Cotto & Miranda Show
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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I think Green can.
I don't...but props to ya for supporting your man.
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Originally Posted by Majesty
If his chin was average we've seen his heart already to get up and win by knockout. I think Green will do good in this fight and win.
His chin is average & wev'e not seen him in against a power puncher like Miranda.
I think that he'll do good for the first 6 rounds or so & then get knocked out.
Do you agree that if Miranda doesn't catch him with THAT one shot or that Green can take it well enough to not get knocked out that Miranda is losing this fight?
Not sure.
They both have shitty defenses & Miranda relies on that one shot to win matches...sure...MAYBE Green can pull out a win if it goes the distance...who knows?
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Re: Just another one of Wacko's Drunken Round by Rounds: The Cotto & Miranda Show
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I think Green can.
I don't...but props to ya for supporting your man.
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Originally Posted by Majesty
If his chin was average we've seen his heart already to get up and win by knockout. I think Green will do good in this fight and win.
His chin is average & wev'e not seen him in against a power puncher like Miranda.
I think that he'll do good for the first 6 rounds or so & then get knocked out.
Do you agree that if Miranda doesn't catch him with THAT one shot or that Green can take it well enough to not get knocked out that Miranda is losing this fight?
If this goes the distance, and it won't, but IF it did, I still think Miranda would win on points. He is unorthadox, but that is what makes him so dangerous. He can fwock you up with any hand and any punch. Also, dont forget, it's gonna be hard for Green to pull out a decision in Puerto Rico.