Why not compare? Everyone seems to want to compare Joe C to the ATG's between 160-175. How do you think Joey would do with the G-Man?
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Why not compare? Everyone seems to want to compare Joe C to the ATG's between 160-175. How do you think Joey would do with the G-Man?
This is a bit sick, Joe Calzaghe is the reigning undefeated world super middleweight champion and the G-Man is a vegetable in a wheelchair, probably wieghing in at 180 plus at the moment?
Another Calzaghe against thread?! ;D
As good as Mclennan was I just dont think he was good enough to beat Calzaghe. Calzaghe has the alround game and when posed with the challenge he always rises. After a tough opening stanza Calzaghe begins to stick and move using quick handspeed and effective footwork. A frustrated McLennan loses by decision...
That goes without saying. I clearly talking prime for prime. This is what sc's are for.Quote:
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Oh, sorry, I thought you meant now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brockton Bomber
Have you sc'd me, as my count does not seem to have gone up?
Thats a tough one to pick... Joe C has the all around goods, but so did the G-Man ... Gerald had absolutely helacious one punch KO power and a relenting agression that was spooky, and that overshadowed Geralds Boxing skill, he was extremely underrated and he also had an excellent jab and quick hands, Gerald showed that stamina wasnt an issue against Benn, even though it had a tragic outcome and Gerald was stopped because of something he couldn't stop or control internally he sure as hell showed heart....Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
I think Calzaghe would have to be better than he was agaist Lacy while Gerald could beat Joe just putting on a routine peformance ;)
The lacy fight was Joe greatest 'shown' proformance, but i am adamant that he was even better than that a few years back in his prime.Quote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
:coolclick:, JTQuote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
I know you are a big G-man fan, and you make some very good points. Im a big Calzaghe fan and think he has the tools to edge Gerald, but there is no right and wrong in these kinds of threads. Its just pitching your arguments forwards and invariably we favour the fighters that we are more into.
I agree that Calzaghe would need to be on top form to beat Gerald, nothing less would suffice. McClennan didnt quite realise all that he potentially could due to his tragedy and that is something that must also be realised.
g man early or joe c late would be very hard for calzaghe make it out of first few rounds with geralds unbelieveable aggressiveness its pick em for me
Right back at you #878 :coolclick: I really came to respect Joe and his skill a little later after the Lacy fight.. I even wrote an article a few months back about it... Gerald was so damn enigmatic and had such a dark edge to him it was scary to see the machine he was in the ring... Would be a huge fight and the Biggest challenge of Joe's career IMO, win,win for all of us I would say ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
As dangerous as G-Man was not everyone he fought was dealt with in a few rounds
Calzaghe would win easily unless G-Man made him kip. Quick.
OH YEA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Prove that one too >:mad hahah!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
:coolclick: #240
haha
CC back mate
Actually G-Man would have had an excellent chance of KOing Calzaghe because he's easily drawn into a fight.
Thats the thing with hypothetical fights. Its all guess work on your own part and youve no real idea as to what exactly each boxer will implement as a game plan or where that said game plan might go out the window. It usually rests withthe fighter you support backed up with x+y argument. Tricky!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
and Joe would have a good chance of outpointing Gerald if he kept up the workrate by moving and showing different anglesQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Have you seen Gerald fight? He was among the hardest hitters in the middleweight divisions ever along with Nigel Benn, Julian Jackson, and Roy Jones Jr. He was better technically than Joe Calzaghe, and just as fast. Granted he didn't throw the big combinations, but he threw more powerful ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Of course, it's just a fun thing for fans to speculate overQuote:
Originally Posted by miles
It's like debating whether or not god exists ;)
Exactly, and thats why I get involved in these debates!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Joe comes out fast trying prove a point. His speed allows him to win the first round pretty easily. The second round starts in similar fashion. Joe's hand speed starts to bother Gerald. Joe sees Gerald frustration and decides to press the issue. It's at that moment when Joe's runs right into Gerald's right hand. Flush on the jaw. And goes to sleep. 10 count not needed.
Its a hypothetical possibility, VD. And you even gave Calzaghe the first round. Respect :coolclick: ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I've never denied Calzaghe's skills. Or said he wasn't a good fighter. Just that he's overrated. Hasn't fought any big names. Seems to be scared to death of Kessler. And that his title defenses don't mean shit. That's it.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
I think i'm startin to warm to VD ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
no contest, the G-MAN would have ko'd joe in under 4 rounds.............................but the fight would never get sifned as joe doesn't take these kind off dangerous fights
One thign that really impressed me about Calzaghe was his start to the lacy fight, he was jabbing moving, in and out; it wasn't really untill he had lacy in all sorts of shit that he would let him self be in place for a big hit. I don't think gerland would of been able to knock joe out with one punch, hurt him yes, put him down he had the power, but i think if he got the big punch pff, it would put calzaghe back to boxing. Thats why i see calzaghe winning this fight should it happen.
He does sound nice there, and his points are kind of correct. I too would love to see a Kessler fight and there is no reason for it not to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono