Was mike tysons punching power ever measured?.

in like psi?

Not sure, but I seem to remember that Frank Bruno was supposed to have measured the highest PPSI

:welcomesign: to the forum buddy ;)

The only story I ever heard about a great heavyweight's punching power being measured goes something like this...

A couple of years after he retired, Marciano was making some kind of a appearance at an army base. One of the officers asked him if he wanted to know how hard he hit. Intrigued, Marciano said "sure".

They had an army boxing team on base, with some pretty serious amatuers. They had attached a pad to a ballistic dynamometer, which a fighter could hit and it would measure the PSI at impact.

A ballistic dynamometer is a machine used to see the power generated by small artillery shells, so you can see why they would have one at an army base.

All the army boxers big hits were written on a blackboard near the BD. One of the guys had apparently just broken 600 pounds, which they thought was big shit.

They taped the Rock up, slid on a glove, and after a couple of practice swings, Rocky registered 973 pounds. This was at 190 pounds, and a couple of years retired.

I read somewhere a mule can kick and hit at 500 lbs psi and tyson was 300 lbs psi or something like that. Thanks

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The only story I ever heard about a great heavyweight's punching power being measured goes something like this...

A couple of years after he retired, Marciano was making some kind of a appearance at an army base. One of the officers asked him if he wanted to know how hard he hit. Intrigued, Marciano said "sure".

They had an army boxing team on base, with some pretty serious amatuers. They had attached a pad to a ballistic dynamometer, which a fighter could hit and it would measure the PSI at impact.

A ballistic dynamometer is a machine used to see the power generated by small artillery shells, so you can see why they would have one at an army base.

All the army boxers big hits were written on a blackboard near the BD. One of the guys had apparently just broken 600 pounds, which they thought was big shit.

They taped the Rock up, slid on a glove, and after a couple of practice swings, Rocky registered 973 pounds. This was at 190 pounds, and a couple of years retired.

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CC interesting stuff. Imagine if every pro boxer had to be measured and it was included in the pre-fight stats. I think that would be great.

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I read somewhere a mule can kick and hit at 500 lbs psi and tyson was 300 lbs psi or something like that. Thanks

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I think that's off. Because Tyson can't generate even 1/2 a mule kick's power. And I happen to know that a throughbred racehorse at full stride generates approximately 7000 PSI evry time it's hoof hits the dirt.

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I read somewhere a mule can kick and hit at 500 lbs psi and tyson was 300 lbs psi or something like that. Thanks

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I think that's off. Because Tyson can't generate even 1/2 a mule kick's power. And I happen to know that a throughbred racehorse at full stride generates approximately 7000 PSI evry time it's hoof hits the dirt.

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Tyson > Mule
http://www.pwnedcake.com/misc/tyson-vs-mule.jpg

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I read somewhere a mule can kick and hit at 500 lbs psi and tyson was 300 lbs psi or something like that. Thanks

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I think that's off. Because Tyson can't generate even 1/2 a mule kick's power. And I happen to know that a throughbred racehorse at full stride generates approximately 7000 PSI evry time it's hoof hits the dirt.

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Tyson > Mule
http://www.pwnedcake.com/misc/tyson-vs-mule.jpg

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quality stuff as always :coolclick:

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I read somewhere a mule can kick and hit at 500 lbs psi and tyson was 300 lbs psi or something like that. Thanks

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I think that's off. Because Tyson can't generate even 1/2 a mule kick's power. And I happen to know that a throughbred racehorse at full stride generates approximately 7000 PSI evry time it's hoof hits the dirt.

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just an educated guess i estimate tysons punching power would be about 1100 psi,if marciano can generate 950 psi ,tyson out weighed the great marciano by 35 LBS and generated tremendous power from his unique boxing stance and compact frame and ivan drago averages 1850 psi,so what ever he hits,he destroyes

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I read somewhere a mule can kick and hit at 500 lbs psi and tyson was 300 lbs psi or something like that. Thanks

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I think that's off. Because Tyson can't generate even 1/2 a mule kick's power. And I happen to know that a throughbred racehorse at full stride generates approximately 7000 PSI evry time it's hoof hits the dirt.

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just an educated guess i estimate tysons punching power would be about 1100 psi,if marciano can generate 950 psi ,tyson out weighed the great marciano by 35 LBS and generated tremendous power from his unique boxing stance and compact frame and ivan drago averages 1850 psi,so what ever he hits,he destroyes

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If a retired Marciano could hit 973, I'm guessing a prime Tyson could hot 1200-1250. I remeber there was kickboxer a few years back, (no not CroCop), whose LHK was measured at like 2050 psi. Once you his 973 though it's all academic baby. 900 pounds, 2000 pounds. Don't matter. You're getting KTFO.

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I read somewhere a mule can kick and hit at 500 lbs psi and tyson was 300 lbs psi or something like that. Thanks

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I think that's off. Because Tyson can't generate even 1/2 a mule kick's power. And I happen to know that a throughbred racehorse at full stride generates approximately 7000 PSI evry time it's hoof hits the dirt.

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Tyson > Mule
http://www.pwnedcake.com/misc/tyson-vs-mule.jpg

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Brilliant have a CC from me

I once read somewhere that Tyson punched 3 times harder than a normal man in the same shape weighing the same

i heard rockys psi punch power was 1000 pounds, they probably jus rounded it up. this is some serious power im tellin ya, u hit a normal man with that sort of power it could kill. not any ordinary heavyweight boxer would get close to them numbers unless they have some serious serious power!
i dont think the HW's of today could reach them numbers, actyually maybe a few like W.klits, tua, peters. infact im not sure these guys cud generate that sort of power, rocky was a one of when it came to power punching.

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I read somewhere a mule can kick and hit at 500 lbs psi and tyson was 300 lbs psi or something like that. Thanks

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Are you kidding me? That had this noname guy who was much smaller, and slower than Tyson go on Rippleys believe it or not to see if which form of fighting punched the hardest and with a cross this guy hit over 1000 psi. Anyways there was a sight that tested his psi power, and it said that he punched the equivalent of a 25 pound sledgehammer moving 35 MPH. Or a car moving 50 MPH.

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I read somewhere a mule can kick and hit at 500 lbs psi and tyson was 300 lbs psi or something like that. Thanks

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Are you kidding me? That had this noname guy who was much smaller, and slower than Tyson go on Rippleys believe it or not to see if which form of fighting punched the hardest and with a cross this guy hit over 1000 psi. Anyways there was a sight that tested his psi power, and it said that he punched the equivalent of a 25 pound sledgehammer moving 35 MPH. Or a car moving 50 MPH.

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i dont agree with it something i found off web i dont know how psi works just found it and copy and pasted it

PSI is pounds per square inch. So think of a square with one inch long sides, and then the pounds come from the pressure generated from the punch. PSI determines not only the dispersity of the force acting upon the object, but also the magnitude of the force in a certain area. Anyways Marciano wasn't a very big guy, and alot of his power came from quantity of punches, and how small the gloves were. Mike Tyson hits much harder than Marciano.

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PSI is pounds per square inch. So think of a square with one inch long sides, and then the pounds come from the pressure generated from the punch. PSI determines not only the dispersity of the force acting upon the object, but also the magnitude of the force in a certain area. Anyways Marciano wasn't a very big guy, and alot of his power came from quantity of punches, and how small the gloves were. Mike Tyson hits much harder than Marciano.

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thanks for explaining cc

I have an Engineering Degree from U of A

PSI is of course pounds of force per square inch.

you can generate 1000' of PSI with a small force if the application area is small..

eg push on a thumbtack.
the force of your thumb is say 10 pounds but the area of the point of the pin is say 1000 th of a square inch. the result is 10,000 psi

conversely small forces on large areas can create huge forces such as the lift on an airplane wing or the force holding up a inflated stadium roof that might weight 1,000,000 pounds held up by a pressure differential of only a fraction of a PSI.

Its very hard to calculate the force of a punch because of the factors involved
Generally force is mass times acceleration.
So if a boxer punches a measured mass the acceleration of the mass can be measured and the punching force determined
But a heavier puncher maintains the acceleration of the mass longer than a lighter puncher who's kinetic energy is dissipated faster, the body mass behind the punch and muscles that continue to drive it forward MUST BE CONSIDERED.
it's NOT EASY.

so the methods of punching something that weighs about the same as a mans head and seeing how far it flys (relates to acceleration) are not really accurate.
Foreman didn't have fast hands but he hit hard!

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I read somewhere a mule can kick and hit at 500 lbs psi and tyson was 300 lbs psi or something like that. Thanks

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I think that's off. Because Tyson can't generate even 1/2 a mule kick's power. And I happen to know that a throughbred racehorse at full stride generates approximately 7000 PSI evry time it's hoof hits the dirt.

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just an educated guess i estimate tysons punching power would be about 1100 psi,if marciano can generate 950 psi ,tyson out weighed the great marciano by 35 LBS and generated tremendous power from his unique boxing stance and compact frame and ivan drago averages 1850 psi,so what ever he hits,he destroyes

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;D

Actaully Tysons punch was measured...By Trevor Berbicks chin.....
TILT!

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I have an Engineering Degree from U of A

PSI is of course pounds of force per square inch.

you can generate 1000' of PSI with a small force if the application area is small..

eg push on a thumbtack.
the force of your thumb is say 10 pounds but the area of the point of the pin is say 1000 th of a square inch. the result is 10,000 psi

conversely small forces on large areas can create huge forces such as the lift on an airplane wing or the force holding up a inflated stadium roof that might weight 1,000,000 pounds held up by a pressure differential of only a fraction of a PSI.

Its very hard to calculate the force of a punch because of the factors involved
Generally force is mass times acceleration.
So if a boxer punches a measured mass the acceleration of the mass can be measured and the punching force determined
But a heavier puncher maintains the acceleration of the mass longer than a lighter puncher who's kinetic energy is dissipated faster, the body mass behind the punch and muscles that continue to drive it forward MUST BE CONSIDERED.
it's NOT EASY.

so the methods of punching something that weighs about the same as a mans head and seeing how far it flys (relates to acceleration) are not really accurate.
Foreman didn't have fast hands but he hit hard!

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The hard part in measuring the force of a punch without using PSI is because its hard to know how much momentum or mass is actually behind the punch. Acceleration changes the force of the punch, but it is at a fixed rate at the exact moment it hits the opponent. Not only the body mass which acts folcrum point, but also the alignment of the arm, and bone density also play a factor.

I can remeber when i was younger some1 once told me that tyson has the power to a crack a coconut (i think it was) with just one punch. So from that they calculated that the coconut has the same density as a 16 year olds head there for if he would cave in a kids head. I no it probably aint true nd has nothing to do with measuring his power but i thought i would say it neways.

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Originally Posted by landmine950

I have an Engineering Degree from U of A

PSI is of course pounds of force per square inch.

you can generate 1000' of PSI with a small force if the application area is small..

eg push on a thumbtack.
the force of your thumb is say 10 pounds but the area of the point of the pin is say 1000 th of a square inch. the result is 10,000 psi

conversely small forces on large areas can create huge forces such as the lift on an airplane wing or the force holding up a inflated stadium roof that might weight 1,000,000 pounds held up by a pressure differential of only a fraction of a PSI.

Its very hard to calculate the force of a punch because of the factors involved
Generally force is mass times acceleration.
So if a boxer punches a measured mass the acceleration of the mass can be measured and the punching force determined
But a heavier puncher maintains the acceleration of the mass longer than a lighter puncher who's kinetic energy is dissipated faster, the body mass behind the punch and muscles that continue to drive it forward MUST BE CONSIDERED.
it's NOT EASY.

so the methods of punching something that weighs about the same as a mans head and seeing how far it flys (relates to acceleration) are not really accurate.
Foreman didn't have fast hands but he hit hard!

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The hard part in measuring the force of a punch without using PSI is because its hard to know how much momentum or mass is actually behind the punch. Acceleration changes the force of the punch, but it is at a fixed rate at the exact moment it hits the opponent. Not only the body mass which acts fulcrum point, but also the alignment of the arm, and bone density also play a factor.

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You wouldn't measure the acceleration of the fist,as you rightly stated the fist is at a certain speed at the time of contact.
The force of the punch would be determined by measuring the acceleration it creates on the object it hits.

ie the stationary head with a certain mass is accelerated backwards, from V=O to some speed over a short time period.
Determining this acceleration and knowing the mass of the test object being punched allows a crude calculation of the force of the punch. this is how the punching bags in bars etc work.
A fulcrum could be used to convert the punch force to a lifting force sort of like the strong man circus hammer strength tests. and the acceleration of the known weight which flys up and hit a bell is easily calculated using
d= 1/2 A * t^2 where A is 9.81 m/s^2

The other things you say are all true. the force must be maintained during the transfer of energy as the collision is not perfectly ellastic ie forces are dissipated in other places such as deformation of the glove (and face) and the movement of the punchers body etc.

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