Is the Oscar De la hoya V Floyd Mayweather fight over hyped?

Oscar beats Mayorga and everyone's WOW! Oscar's back WOW! Oscar's back but end of the day Tito comeback beat Mayorga and everyone said WOW! tito's back then he fought Winky did'nt really win a round and retires again is Oscar back or did Mayorga make him look good is this really a mismatch ;)

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Originally Posted by tysonbruno

Oscar beats Mayorga and everyone's WOW! Oscar's back WOW! Oscar's back but end of the day Tito comeback beat Mayorga and everyone said WOW! tito's back then he fought Winky did'nt really win a round and retires again is Oscar back or did Mayorga make him look good is this really a mismatch ;)

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I BELIEVE IT WAS A MISMATCH BETWEEN OSCAR AND MAYORGA (NOT SAYING THAT OSCAR WONT BEAT PBF) MAYORGA CANT BOX HE IS JUST A BRAWLER AND THATS WHY OSCAR STOPPED HIM EASILY...

I don't think Oscar is back i think he is the same fighter who struggled with Sturm and got stopped by Hopkins i think this fight is'nt as big as we think it is Mayweather v Mosely would have been bigger and tougher ;)

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I don't think Oscar is back i think he is the same fighter who struggled with Sturm and got stopped by Hopkins i think this fight is'nt as big as we think it is Mayweather v Mosely would have been bigger and tougher ;)

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MOSLEY IS GARBAGE HE IS NOT A CONSISTENT FIGHTER AND A UNCONSISTENT FIGHTER IS NOT A GOOD FIGHTER ;)

One take CAPSLOCK! off or are you shouting at me and 2 tell me more about Shane Mosely not been consistant please ;D

Name a supposed superfight over the last 5 years that hasn't been

Tysonbruno, I think you forget that Oscar only had troubles with Sturm and HOpkins because of their size, and height advantage. He has never been truly outboxed even when he used just one hand, and was facing Pernell Whitaker, and prime Mosley. I think this fight will be overhyped if people are expecting the slugfest of the century, but in terms of its importance, and who's fighting I can't see it being over hyped. Both have done so much, and deserve so much that this fight deserves to be recognized. On the contrary to what I've been saying ODLH got hit cleanly Mayorga a few times, and I think he will be asitting goose for PBF if PBF decides to box from the outside.

No the fight is not over hyped.

This fight is good for boxing & has many MANY people talking casual fans, die hards, & even non boxing fans are giving it the going over...that's a rarity.

As far as Oscar being gone or Mayorga making him look good...I disagree on both in a sense. Mayorga, IWO, is a chump & stuck his neck out like a fool...but Oscar looked good against Mosley in the 2nd fight...I was there & to this day still say that Oscar won the fight.

Against Sturm? He lost...& that's the way I will always feel. He came in plump & hadn't a grip on 160 or who he was facing.

Against Hopkins? Again...another fighter that I love...Oscar didn't do that bad. He went toe to toe with Hopkins for about 5-6 rounds...it didn't last. Oscar was out of his weight class & element against Hopkins. No shame there.

Boxing needs this fight as much as the fans do. Simple as that...no...it aint over hyped...it's necessary.

The question that I want answered before the fight is...can Floyd handle the weight.

The thing with me & this fight is that these are two of my favorites in my top 5 list & I keep on saying that no matter who wins...I win...but that's horse shit.

I'll be honest here...arrogant or not...hated or not...I want Floyd to win this one.

Believe you me, I love & respect Oscar...always have & always will...but I want Floyd to go down as what he is...an all time great.

If he totally breezes through Oscar...sure everyone will say that Oscar was too old & so on & so on...but true fans know & will recognize the accomplishment that he makes if he beats Oscar.

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No the fight is not over hyped.

This fight is good for boxing & has many MANY people talking casual fans, die hards, & even non boxing fans are giving it the going over...that's a rarity.

As far as Oscar being gone or Mayorga making him look good...I disagree on both in a sense. Mayorga, IWO, is a chump & stuck his neck out like a fool...but Oscar looked good against Mosley in the 2nd fight...I was there & to this day still say that Oscar won the fight.

Against Sturm? He lost...& that's the way I will always feel. He came in plump & hadn't a grip on 160 or who he was facing.

Against Hopkins? Again...another fighter that I love...Oscar didn't do that bad. He went toe to toe with Hopkins for about 5-6 rounds...it didn't last. Oscar was out of his weight class & element against Hopkins. No shame there.

Boxing needs this fight as much as the fans do. Simple as that...no...it aint over hyped...it's necessary.

The question that I want answered before the fight is...can Floyd handle the weight.

The thing with me & this fight is that these are two of my favorites in my top 5 list & I keep on saying that no matter who wins...I win...but that's horse S***.

I'll be honest here...arrogant or not...hated or not...I want Floyd to win this one.

Believe you me, I love & respect Oscar...always have & always will...but I want Floyd to go down as what he is...an all time great.

If he totally breezes through Oscar...sure everyone will say that Oscar was too old & so on & so on...but true fans know & will recognize the accomplishment that he makes if he beats Oscar.

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i dont post here that often because of school n what not but i love you in a completely heterosexual way...hmmm,anyway...i think oscar is/was a cracking fighter...but i feel his power if in his left hook(which a few have said) which floyd is practically immune to, people have said he could (or oscars jab may deside teh fight) but i think floyd can counter anything odlh has due to pure speed and accuracy

anyone trying to compare this fight to floyd vs catillo I though is a complete and utter muppet

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No the fight is not over hyped.

This fight is good for boxing & has many MANY people talking casual fans, die hards, & even non boxing fans are giving it the going over...that's a rarity.

As far as Oscar being gone or Mayorga making him look good...I disagree on both in a sense. Mayorga, IWO, is a chump & stuck his neck out like a fool...but Oscar looked good against Mosley in the 2nd fight...I was there & to this day still say that Oscar won the fight.

Against Sturm? He lost...& that's the way I will always feel. He came in plump & hadn't a grip on 160 or who he was facing.

Against Hopkins? Again...another fighter that I love...Oscar didn't do that bad. He went toe to toe with Hopkins for about 5-6 rounds...it didn't last. Oscar was out of his weight class & element against Hopkins. No shame there.

Boxing needs this fight as much as the fans do. Simple as that...no...it aint over hyped...it's necessary.

The question that I want answered before the fight is...can Floyd handle the weight.

The thing with me & this fight is that these are two of my favorites in my top 5 list & I keep on saying that no matter who wins...I win...but that's horse S***.

I'll be honest here...arrogant or not...hated or not...I want Floyd to win this one.

Believe you me, I love & respect Oscar...always have & always will...but I want Floyd to go down as what he is...an all time great.

If he totally breezes through Oscar...sure everyone will say that Oscar was too old & so on & so on...but true fans know & will recognize the accomplishment that he makes if he beats Oscar.

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i dont post here that often because of school n what not but i love you in a completely heterosexual way...hmmm,anyway...i think oscar is/was a cracking fighter...but i feel his power if in his left hook(which a few have said) which floyd is practically immune to, people have said he could (or oscars jab may deside teh fight) but i think floyd can counter anything odlh has due to pure speed and accuracy

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Welcome to the forum. Have the Obligatory Wacko Welcome Wagon :coolclick:

Think nothing of the hetero or non hetero love. Wacko's down with spreading the love around the forum too. Cheers!

Truthfully...at the end of the night...I don't see how this fight could be a bad fight. No matter what Floyd shows up & no matter what Oscar shows up...it'll either be a technical brawl or a thinking mans war.

There will be rounds that Floyd is back pedalling & punching while Oscar tries to press...but honestly...I just think that it'll be a good one no matter what.

The fact is that Floyd aint gonna knock Oscar out & it'll go 12 rounds...but I really don't believe that people believe Oscar is going to get the better of Floyd like he did Mayorga. Making a comparison & analysis of the upcoming match based on the Mayorga fight is about as wack as making a comparison on:

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Originally Posted by LukeH

anyone trying to compare this fight to floyd vs catillo I though is a complete and utter muppet

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Yep...what he said! ;D :drunks:

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No the fight is not over hyped.

This fight is good for boxing & has many MANY people talking casual fans, die hards, & even non boxing fans are giving it the going over...that's a rarity.

As far as Oscar being gone or Mayorga making him look good...I disagree on both in a sense. Mayorga, IWO, is a chump & stuck his neck out like a fool...but Oscar looked good against Mosley in the 2nd fight...I was there & to this day still say that Oscar won the fight.

Against Sturm? He lost...& that's the way I will always feel. He came in plump & hadn't a grip on 160 or who he was facing.

Against Hopkins? Again...another fighter that I love...Oscar didn't do that bad. He went toe to toe with Hopkins for about 5-6 rounds...it didn't last. Oscar was out of his weight class & element against Hopkins. No shame there.

Boxing needs this fight as much as the fans do. Simple as that...no...it aint over hyped...it's necessary.

The question that I want answered before the fight is...can Floyd handle the weight.

The thing with me & this fight is that these are two of my favorites in my top 5 list & I keep on saying that no matter who wins...I win...but that's horse S***.

I'll be honest here...arrogant or not...hated or not...I want Floyd to win this one.

Believe you me, I love & respect Oscar...always have & always will...but I want Floyd to go down as what he is...an all time great.

If he totally breezes through Oscar...sure everyone will say that Oscar was too old & so on & so on...but true fans know & will recognize the accomplishment that he makes if he beats Oscar.

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i dont post here that often because of school n what not but i love you in a completely heterosexual way...hmmm,anyway...i think oscar is/was a cracking fighter...but i feel his power if in his left hook(which a few have said) which floyd is practically immune to, people have said he could (or oscars jab may deside teh fight) but i think floyd can counter anything odlh has due to pure speed and accuracy

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Welcome to the forum. Have the Obligatory Wacko Welcome Wagon :coolclick:

Think nothing of the hetero or non hetero love. Wacko's down with spreading the love around the forum too. Cheers!

Truthfully...at the end of the night...I don't see how this fight could be a bad fight. No matter what Floyd shows up & no matter what Oscar shows up...it'll either be a technical brawl or a thinking mans war.

There will be rounds that Floyd is back pedalling & punching while Oscar tries to press...but honestly...I just think that it'll be a good one no matter what.

The fact is that Floyd aint gonna knock Oscar out & it'll go 12 rounds...but I really don't believe that people believe Oscar is going to get the better of Floyd like he did Mayorga. Making a comparison & analysis of the upcoming match based on the Mayorga fight is about as wack as making a comparison on:

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Originally Posted by LukeH

anyone trying to compare this fight to floyd vs catillo I though is a complete and utter muppet

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Yep...what he said! ;D :drunks:

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oh its completely hetero :-X...people are saying it may depend on floyd bottling it from over confidence, but i cant imagine the gym rat doing that...hes gonna want to put on a performance...and i see people saying oscar has to get him on the ropes or dominate the jab, but floyd is practically unparraled on the ropes and i think hes quick anough to counter oscars jabs, i dont want to sound like a nuthugger but i dont see how oscar will win it, i hope he makes it competitive, i really do, but in the end of the day i want mayweather to win, not retire and fight top level compitition so he can put his skill level up there with the best on record

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oh its completely hetero :-X...people are saying it may depend on floyd bottling it from over confidence, but i cant imagine the gym rat doing that...hes gonna want to put on a performance...and i see people saying oscar has to get him on the ropes or dominate the jab, but floyd is practically unparraled on the ropes and i think hes quick anough to counter oscars jabs, i dont want to sound like a fan but i dont see how oscar will win it, i hope he makes it competitive, i really do, but in the end of the day i want mayweather to win, not retire and fight top level compitition so he can put his skill level up there with the best on record

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No matter what Floyd says...no matter what Oscar says...I think that the factors in this fight are going to be size & age.

Floyd's got the age advantage & that also equates to speed that Oscar has lost & Floyd still has.

The size clearly is Oscar's advantage & if he connects it will be something that Floyd has never felt. Oscar is a hard hitter...I can't remotely relate to anyone that says Oscar can't crack.

I want it to be competitive too...Lord knows I pretty much sold a kidney to get ringside for this one. Golden Bwoy Productions basically owns my ass on this one. I sunk a shitload of cash to be at this one with NO REGRETS!!!

That being said, Im with ya 100%. I too want Floyd to win and continue to fight top level competition or atleast shut up some of his critics & hammer Hatton & Margarito out of the squared circle.

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

The size clearly is Oscar's advantage & if he connects it will be something that Floyd has never felt. Oscar is a hard hitter...I can't remotely relate to anyone that says Oscar can't crack.

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Well it depends on what you mean by hard hitter. Oscar has never been or will never be a devestating puncher at 147 or above. His big KOs came in the lower weight classes.

He is a very good puncher, but he has never had the ability to seriously hurt a guy with one punch at this weight class. His punching skills revolve around his left hook to the body, which is the type of punch that wears the opponent down over the course of a fight. I always feel like this type of punch isn't that effective against a defensive whiz like Mayweather, because you have to land it a lot for the accumulation to build up, and Mayweather isn't going to let you land the same punch over and over again.

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oh its completely hetero :-X...people are saying it may depend on floyd bottling it from over confidence, but i cant imagine the gym rat doing that...hes gonna want to put on a performance...and i see people saying oscar has to get him on the ropes or dominate the jab, but floyd is practically unparraled on the ropes and i think hes quick anough to counter oscars jabs, i dont want to sound like a fan but i dont see how oscar will win it, i hope he makes it competitive, i really do, but in the end of the day i want mayweather to win, not retire and fight top level compitition so he can put his skill level up there with the best on record

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No matter what Floyd says...no matter what Oscar says...I think that the factors in this fight are going to be size & age.

Floyd's got the age advantage & that also equates to speed that Oscar has lost & Floyd still has.

The size clearly is Oscar's advantage & if he connects it will be something that Floyd has never felt. Oscar is a hard hitter...I can't remotely relate to anyone that says Oscar can't crack.

I want it to be competitive too...Lord knows I pretty much sold a kidney to get ringside for this one. Golden Bwoy Productions basically owns my a** on this one. I sunk a shitload of cash to be at this one with NO REGRETS!!!

That being said, Im with ya 100%. I too want Floyd to win and continue to fight top level competition or atleast shut up some of his critics & hammer Hatton & Margarito out of the squared circle.

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ill soon learn how to sort out quotes...but anyway.\im not goin to pretend im a genius on ODLH..the only access to his fight besides mayorga( which i thin is irrelevant) is on the internet ( i cant even d/l things) but from what i hear his main power is his left hook, which i think will be practically nullified...not too say he cant crack in any other punches!! but as you say, floys has only taken a limited amount of flush punches( i do think h has a good chin though) but nothing ever from a man oscars size, which could cause him trouble if he does what he says he will and trade!! im as jealous as fwock that you have tickets! good on you sir im in envy! about hammering hatton and margarito...id only like to see hatton floyd at 140 (which i dont think will happen) which i think he'd win anyway , anything above that i think he would school them both.

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The size clearly is Oscar's advantage & if he connects it will be something that Floyd has never felt. Oscar is a hard hitter...I can't remotely relate to anyone that says Oscar can't crack.

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Well it depends on what you mean by hard hitter. Oscar has never been or will never be a devestating puncher at 147 or above. His big KOs came in the lower weight classes.

He is a very good puncher, but he has never had the ability to seriously hurt a guy with one punch at this weight class. His punching skills revolve around his left hook to the body, which is the type of punch that wears the opponent down over the course of a fight. I always feel like this type of punch isn't that effective against a defensive whiz like Mayweather, because you have to land it a lot for the accumulation to build up, and Mayweather isn't going to let you land the same punch over and over again.

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I agree that Mayweather isn't going to stand there & allow him to land the same shots...but Oscar's power is a lot like Floyd's it's accuracey & accumulation.

I stick by my opinion on Oscar's power...it's there & he's dropped many men of late to put the proof in the pudding. Of recent date Oscar has stopped Vargas, Campas, & Gatti. I'm not or never have stated that Oscar or Floyd were devastating punchers...but they have power in their own rights.

Honestly...I think that Floyd has underratted power. You (not meaning you...broad finger pointing) sit back & watch his matches against Mitchell, Augustus, Corrales, Juuko, Gatti, & even Judah...when he comes on & starts landing combos you can actually see him breaking down his opponent...it shows on their faces.

He just chips away & once he's got em soft...he starts bombing away & that's all she wrote.

Not sure that he can accomplish such against someone like Oscar...but I would shit my pants if he did.

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Originally Posted by tysonbruno

Oscar beats Mayorga and everyone's WOW! Oscar's back WOW! Oscar's back but end of the day Tito comeback beat Mayorga and everyone said WOW! tito's back then he fought Winky did'nt really win a round and retires again is Oscar back or did Mayorga make him look good is this really a mismatch ;)

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yeah its definatly overhyped but that wont stop me from buying it ;D...just to see if ODLH can whoop the pretty boy,but i dont think,acually i KNOW that oscar CANT pull this off....hes just not the same golden boy i loved watching through the 90's.........but i can still hope

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Of recent date Oscar has stopped Vargas, Campas, & Gatti.

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True, but he KOd Gatti and Vargas because he broke them down with one landed punch after another.
The left hook he landed on Vargas was right out of a textbook, but it only knocked him down because DLH had broken him down over the course of 10+ rounds.
Which is really my point, that DLH is a true boxer-puncher, not a pure puncher. He has to box first to set up the punching later. Against Floyd he almost may have to skip step 1, and I don't think that will work.

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Of recent date Oscar has stopped Vargas, Campas, & Gatti.

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True, but he KOd Gatti and Vargas because he broke them down with one landed punch after another.
The left hook he landed on Vargas was right out of a textbook, but it only knocked him down because DLH had broken him down over the course of 10+ rounds.
Which is really my point, that DLH is a true boxer-puncher, not a pure puncher. He has to box first to set up the punching later. Against Floyd he almost may have to skip step 1, and I don't think that will work.

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Which is what I've been saying. Oscar & Floyd are both accumulative punchers...but they do have power. I agree that neither is a blasting knockout puncher...but people saying that they don't have power is just so...out there to me.

Anywho...who are ya pickin?

I'm still undecided on this. I want Floyd to take it...but I still say that the weight & Oscar's jab is going to be a huge factor.

oscar has trouble with fast boxers, and he old now. i think floyd will tattoo oscar from round 4-10 and cut up dlh's face. you heard it first here . oscar will quit on his stool about rd 11 from humilation.

.....Oscar has been stopped ONE TIME and that was by a MIDDLEWEIGHT!


Floyd will break his hands before he hurts Oscar.

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oscar has trouble with fast boxers, and he old now. i think floyd will tattoo oscar from round 4-10 and cut up dlh's face. you heard it first here . oscar will quit on his stool about rd 11 from humilation.

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Welcome to the forum. Have the Obligatory Wacko Welcome :coolclick:

That being said...you gotta be shittin me?!?!? Surely you don't believe what you just posted?

Oscar has been stopped only once & has taken some serious punches from some much harder hitters than Floyd. No way that Oscar quits on his stool...Oscar's got as much heart as Floyd has skills. He won't sit it out on his stool.

No cuts either. Floyd's brittle hands in those puncher's gloves is quite possibley one of the biggest "NO NO's" of the fight.

Again...welcome to the joint...but no way that statement holds water. Sorry. I know that sounds ruff...but I have been a supporter & follower of both men since I was a younger chap...& none of that sounds remotely close to possible.

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I'm still undecided on this. I want Floyd to take it...but I still say that the weight & Oscar's jab is going to be a huge factor.

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I think the weight is only a factor if Floyd lets it be a factor. What I mean by that is.....

A lot of times when fighters move up in weight class, they make the mistake of thinking that means they HAVE to put on the extra weight, which they don't. A lot of times the extra weight will take their speed away. Mosley is a good example of this.

I think Floyd should weigh-in somewhere around 147-149 for this fight. If he's going to win, he needs to do it with speed and defense, so he should weigh whatever allows him to do that the best.

Does anyone remember what Floyd weighed when fought Baldomir? I know the fight was at 147, but I'm asking what he weighed unofficially on the night of the fight. That's what he should weigh against DLH.

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I'm still undecided on this. I want Floyd to take it...but I still say that the weight & Oscar's jab is going to be a huge factor.

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I think the weight is only a factor if Floyd lets it be a factor. What I mean by that is.....

A lot of times when fighters move up in weight class, they make the mistake of thinking that means they HAVE to put on the extra weight, which they don't. A lot of times the extra weight will take their speed away. Mosley is a good example of this.

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[quote=SweetPea ]Yep...& Oscar in the Sturm fight. Totally chunky & slow. I think that Floyd's way too smart to do something such as this & judging from his body at the pressers...he'll be 120%.

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I think Floyd should weigh-in somewhere around 147-149 for this fight. If he's going to win, he needs to do it with speed and defense, so he should weigh whatever allows him to do that the best.

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Totally agree.

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Does anyone remember what Floyd weighed when fought Baldomir? I know the fight was at 147, but I'm asking what he weighed unofficially on the night of the fight. That's what he should weigh against DLH.

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I'm not sure & I could break out the disc & see...but it's REALLY late here...I shall do so in the morn though if I can remember. Honestly, if memory serves my drunk ass @ the moment, I really think that he came in at either 146 or 148...it was 1 pound north or south of 147...which is about the difference of what Floyd & camp said that he would weigh max against Oscar..a couple of pounds under the catch.

We shall see.

i may be going overboard saying dlh will quit on his stool. i still think floyd will tattoo oscar all night. it's going to be like dlh vs. pernell . maywheather is just to fast. but he will stay in the pocket and make oscar miss over and over. no floyd will not hurt dlh . but i think he will make oscar look slow. thanks for the welcome

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i may be going overboard saying dlh will quit on his stool. i still think floyd will tattoo oscar all night. it's going to be like dlh vs. pernell . maywheather is just to fast. but he will stay in the pocket and make oscar miss over and over. no floyd will not hurt dlh . but i think he will make oscar look slow. thanks for the welcome

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Everyone's entitled to an opinion...but it's just a tuff sell picturing Oscar leaving it all in his corner.

Know what I mean? I'm kinda leaning toward Floyd's speed making Oscar look a bit slow also. Hard to believe...but that's gotta be the most obvious choice of the match up.

Not at all, how can it be overhyped?
It's the P4P fighter vs. A guy whos fought everyone & anyone.....

They are the BIG names of the sport....

Look at the name of the fight itself, that should tell you all.....

When ODLH fights the WORLD watches....

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Not at all, how can it be overhyped?
It's the P4P fighter vs. A guy whos fought everyone & anyone.....

They are the BIG names of the sport....

Look at the name of the fight itself, that should tell you all.....

When ODLH fights the WORLD watches....

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That is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo dam true! Even if you are not the biggest Oscar fan in the world,he still deserves credit for alllll those fights he has taken and giving us so many exciting moments! I was watching his career yesterday and the guys is just so cool!(can't believe I just said that!) :P :-[

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I don't think Oscar is back i think he is the same fighter who struggled with Sturm and got stopped by Hopkins i think this fight is'nt as big as we think it is Mayweather v Mosely would have been bigger and tougher ;)

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MOSLEY IS GARBAGE HE IS NOT A CONSISTENT FIGHTER AND A UNCONSISTENT FIGHTER IS NOT A GOOD FIGHTER ;)

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Mosley is a Garbage fighter?? Are you a glue sniffer??.....Mosley may not be what he used to that is for sure but to say he is garbage tells me one of three things....

1. You do not know that much about the sport

2. You are biased and do not know how to seperate your feelings as a fan or detractor of a fighter from that as a fan of the sprot in general....EG- I can't stand Floyd Mayweather and think he has avoided certin opponents but he does have the skills of a great fighter

3. You were once president of a local chapter of the Shane Mosley fan club and were snubbed while requesting a pair of his used trunks after a fight. Then shortly after given a restraining order....

If it #3 I understand the hard feelings....I saw a movie with my kids once called the Incredibles and the same thing happened to Incredi Boy...soooo.......

Try to get over it and PLEASE do not attempt to become a super villian :D

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I don't think Oscar is back i think he is the same fighter who struggled with Sturm and got stopped by Hopkins i think this fight is'nt as big as we think it is Mayweather v Mosely would have been bigger and tougher ;)

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MOSLEY IS GARBAGE HE IS NOT A CONSISTENT FIGHTER AND A UNCONSISTENT FIGHTER IS NOT A GOOD FIGHTER ;)

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Mosley is a Garbage fighter?? Are you a glue sniffer??.....Mosley may not be what he used to that is for sure but to say he is garbage tells me one of three things....

1. You do not know that much about the sport

2. You are biased and do not know how to seperate your feelings as a fan or detractor of a fighter from that as a fan of the sprot in general....EG- I can't stand Floyd Mayweather and think he has avoided certin opponents but he does have the skills of a great fighter

3. You were once president of a local chapter of the Shane Mosley fan club and were snubbed while requesting a pair of his used trunks after a fight. Then shortly after given a restraining order....

If it #3 I understand the hard feelings....I saw a movie with my kids once called the Incredibles and the same thing happened to Incredi Boy...soooo.......

Try to get over it and PLEASE do not attempt to become a super villian :D

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CC my friend ;)

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I don't think Oscar is back i think he is the same fighter who struggled with Sturm and got stopped by Hopkins i think this fight is'nt as big as we think it is Mayweather v Mosely would have been bigger and tougher ;)

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MOSLEY IS GARBAGE HE IS NOT A CONSISTENT FIGHTER AND A UNCONSISTENT FIGHTER IS NOT A GOOD FIGHTER ;)

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Mosley is a Garbage fighter?? Are you a glue sniffer??.....Mosley may not be what he used to that is for sure but to say he is garbage tells me one of three things....

1. You do not know that much about the sport

2. You are biased and do not know how to seperate your feelings as a fan or detractor of a fighter from that as a fan of the sprot in general....EG- I can't stand Floyd Mayweather and think he has avoided certin opponents but he does have the skills of a great fighter

3. You were once president of a local chapter of the Shane Mosley fan club and were snubbed while requesting a pair of his used trunks after a fight. Then shortly after given a restraining order....

If it #3 I understand the hard feelings....I saw a movie with my kids once called the Incredibles and the same thing happened to Incredi Boy...soooo.......

Try to get over it and PLEASE do not attempt to become a super villian :D

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B-E-A-Utiful. :coolclick:

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Originally Posted by tysonbruno

I don't think Oscar is back i think he is the same fighter who struggled with Sturm and got stopped by Hopkins i think this fight is'nt as big as we think it is Mayweather v Mosely would have been bigger and tougher ;)

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MOSLEY IS GARBAGE HE IS NOT A CONSISTENT FIGHTER AND A UNCONSISTENT FIGHTER IS NOT A GOOD FIGHTER ;)

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Mosley is a Garbage fighter?? Are you a glue sniffer??.....Mosley may not be what he used to that is for sure but to say he is garbage tells me one of three things....

1. You do not know that much about the sport

2. You are biased and do not know how to seperate your feelings as a fan or detractor of a fighter from that as a fan of the sprot in general....EG- I can't stand Floyd Mayweather and think he has avoided certin opponents but he does have the skills of a great fighter

3. You were once president of a local chapter of the Shane Mosley fan club and were snubbed while requesting a pair of his used trunks after a fight. Then shortly after given a restraining order....

If it #3 I understand the hard feelings....I saw a movie with my kids once called the Incredibles and the same thing happened to Incredi Boy...soooo.......

Try to get over it and PLEASE do not attempt to become a super villian :D

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CC my friend ;)

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Thank You....

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Originally Posted by tysonbruno

I don't think Oscar is back i think he is the same fighter who struggled with Sturm and got stopped by Hopkins i think this fight is'nt as big as we think it is Mayweather v Mosely would have been bigger and tougher ;)

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MOSLEY IS GARBAGE HE IS NOT A CONSISTENT FIGHTER AND A UNCONSISTENT FIGHTER IS NOT A GOOD FIGHTER ;)

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Mosley is a Garbage fighter?? Are you a glue sniffer??.....Mosley may not be what he used to that is for sure but to say he is garbage tells me one of three things....

1. You do not know that much about the sport

2. You are biased and do not know how to seperate your feelings as a fan or detractor of a fighter from that as a fan of the sprot in general....EG- I can't stand Floyd Mayweather and think he has avoided certin opponents but he does have the skills of a great fighter

3. You were once president of a local chapter of the Shane Mosley fan club and were snubbed while requesting a pair of his used trunks after a fight. Then shortly after given a restraining order....

If it #3 I understand the hard feelings....I saw a movie with my kids once called the Incredibles and the same thing happened to Incredi Boy...soooo.......

Try to get over it and PLEASE do not attempt to become a super villian :D

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B-E-A-Utiful. :coolclick:

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Also about Mayweather's weight. He was still pretty skinny against Baldomir... I think he could still put on a few pounds and stilll have effective footwork, and not lose his power. I could see him comming in at 155-156 easily... Look at Hopkins comming against Tarver, he didn't lose his footwork or speed, and I think Mayweather might be able to actually do weights more effectively when he moves up to this weight. He works harder than anyone in the business and isn't moving up from middleweight to lightheavyweight or from light heavyweight to heavyweight like RJJ and BHOP. Also he is younger than they were when they made the jump. Mayweather may lose a little speed, but now is the time when he can gain alot of power which won't allow him to KO ODLH, but it will keep the bigger man off a little more, and maybe thats all that matters.

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Also about Mayweather's weight. He was still pretty skinny against Baldomir... I think he could still put on a few pounds and stilll have effective footwork, and not lose his power. I could see him comming in at 155-156 easily... Look at Hopkins comming against Tarver, he didn't lose his footwork or speed, and I think Mayweather might be able to actually do weights more effectively when he moves up to this weight. He works harder than anyone in the business and isn't moving up from middleweight to lightheavyweight or from light heavyweight to heavyweight like RJJ and BHOP. Also he is younger than they were when they made the jump. Mayweather may lose a little speed, but now is the time when he can gain alot of power which won't allow him to KO ODLH, but it will keep the bigger man off a little more, and maybe thats all that matters.

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Completely disagree,I don't know which fight you were watching but he didn't show any power v Baldo!!! And if he came in at 155,156,regardless of who you are,you lose alot of speed. Ask Shane Mosley. If he comes in at that weight,he gives Oscar a great chance to hurt him! I say come in light,stay fleet footed. And even if his power increased,he would break his hand!

I dont see him coming in against Oscar at one fifty anything.

He was 145 against Baldomir. He'll only need to make 150 tops against Oscar.

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Also about Mayweather's weight. He was still pretty skinny against Baldomir... I think he could still put on a few pounds and stilll have effective footwork, and not lose his power. I could see him comming in at 155-156 easily... Look at Hopkins comming against Tarver, he didn't lose his footwork or speed, and I think Mayweather might be able to actually do weights more effectively when he moves up to this weight. He works harder than anyone in the business and isn't moving up from middleweight to lightheavyweight or from light heavyweight to heavyweight like RJJ and BHOP. Also he is younger than they were when they made the jump. Mayweather may lose a little speed, but now is the time when he can gain alot of power which won't allow him to KO ODLH, but it will keep the bigger man off a little more, and maybe thats all that matters.

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Completely disagree,I don't know which fight you were watching but he didn't show any power v Baldo!!! And if he came in at 155,156,regardless of who you are,you lose alot of speed. Ask Shane Mosley. If he comes in at that weight,he gives Oscar a great chance to hurt him! I say come in light,stay fleet footed. And even if his power increased,he would break his hand!

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Here here! cc Agreed.
If you're Floyd, why would you give away one of your strongest advantages? Why sacrifice any speed to gain a little more power? He's not gonna knock him out, so stay small. Stay quick.
Floyd always looks fantastic against larger guys.
He's said in a recent interview that he doesn't plan on putting on much more weight. Good plan.
Does he have enough power to knock Oscar out? Probably not.
But does he have enough power to keep Oscar at bay without significant weight gain? I believe so. Speed and accuracy and the element of surprise his punches bring will do so.

He was 149 against Baldomir. Mosley jumped from 135 to 147 right off the bad, and that's different. I don't think Mosley is naturally much bigger than Mayweather if at all... He just hits harder p4p kinda like Zab Judah who IMO isn't much bigger than PBF naturally. Mosley said his walk around weight was like 155-160 and Mayweather's has been 150-155 so they are very close, and Mosley didn't lose his speed really at Welterweight regardless... Look at his first few fights at welterweight he was almost as quick as he was at lightweight its just he couldn't out power guys like he did at 135 which changes your style. Mayweather has taken his time moving up in weight, and has moved up over a long period of about 5-6 years from super featherweight. Also Mayweather was hitting Baldomir pretty hard the first few rounds... His right hooks that he was countering with were slowing down Baldomir along with the rest of his punches. It wasn't until he hurt his right hand that Baldomir was able to walk in through his punches. I am not saying PBF ever hurt Baldomir or even stunned him, but Baldomir for the first 6 rounds surely was wary of PBF's punching power to the extent that he didn't just walk in on him. THe punches I see Mayweather hit very hard with are his body punches because he is so fast he can put more mustard on those punches than must people who have to watch out for getting countered when going to the body from the outside. Gatti was the other strong guy Mayweather has fought in recent years, and when Mayweather can unload on a guy, and get those hips turning with the punches he hits pretty damn hard. In the week leading up the Gatti fight he went to local gym, and was knocking out light heavyweights with sparring gloves. I didn't say for Mayweather to get up to 160, but 155 is around his natural weight, and alot of you would be surprised him virtually having the same speed as he does now. He still has a few healthy pounds of muscle he can put on without sacrificing speed. The mistake most people make is thinking muscle actually slows you down... it doesn't especially quick twich muscles... it only takes more energy to exert the same movement. Unless you bulk up like body builder you won't slow down. Thats why 100 meter sprinters do weight lifting, and look very muscular. For most boxers it can be a disadvantage because they focus too much on weight lifting and not enough on endurance and punching. Mosley admitted that. Mayweather like Hopkins won't have that problem because he works out so hard. He will never sacrifice endurance for power, and so with a healthy balance he can put on 4-5 pounds healthily on top of the 150 he came in last fight at.

YES !!!!!!!!