Montiel snatch victory from defeat

MONTIEL SNATCH VICTORY FROM DEFEAT AGAINST GORRES; MONTIEL-GORRES
By Dong Secuya
PhilBoxing.com
25 Feb 2007

http://philboxing.com/news/story-9220.html

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I'm sure he's unbiased :)

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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes

philipino site philipino writer, philipino boxer...


I'm sure he's unbiased :)

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well if you do not believe a filipino reporter, check this thread on boxrec:
http://www.boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=57739

i don't know if dennis principe is a filipino but he is a reporter for fightnews:
http://www.fightnews.com/fightnews_2...AoMNPiXqk.html

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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes

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I'm sure he's unbiased :)

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Maybe you should watch the fight and see for yourself. . . then post again. Thanks

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Originally Posted by P.G.H Angel Eyes

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I'm sure he's unbiased :)

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have you seen the fight at all?

Nope, I'm intending to, then I can tell you if I think this writer is biased. Matter of fact why doesnt if anyone posts it on youtube we post it in the controversial fights thread and see what happens.

Yeah,I have now read 2 reviews of the fight and both said Gorres should have won. Even Manny,who was in the crowd,says that that ref should have cautioned him instead of taking points away! WOW! Getting robbed in your OWN backyard must suck balls!

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Yeah,I have now read 2 reviews of the fight and both said Gorres should have won. Even Manny,who was in the crowd,says that that ref should have cautioned him instead of taking points away! WOW! Getting robbed in your OWN backyard must suck balls!

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i really don't think it be considered a total robbery. although i have gorres winning by a close decision, montiel was able to do enough in the late rounds to maybe sway the 2 judges in his favor. it would have been a lot closer without the point deductions.

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Yeah,I have now read 2 reviews of the fight and both said Gorres should have won. Even Manny,who was in the crowd,says that that ref should have cautioned him instead of taking points away! WOW! Getting robbed in your OWN backyard must suck balls!

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Yeah, Gorres felt pretty bad after the fight. However, Montiel did mention to Gorres that he will be a future champion soon and that he fought a really good fight. Montiel even shouted right after the match that he loved Cebu. Class act for a champion like Montiel ;D. Mexican's fighters are beginning to realize that for as long as they give their best, Filipino's (especially those living in the Philippines) give them respect, win or lose. Oscar Larios experienced it. Erik Morales was initially afraid going to the Philippines but was pleasantly surprised how well he is liked in the Philippines. Montiel experienced the Filipino hospitality before and after the fight.

And for Gorres, he definitely made a name for himself. He gained everyone's respect even if he lost. A mark of a true fighter and champion.

So, believe it or not, it is not winning or losing that counts, but how you play the game. . .

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Originally Posted by halo

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Yeah,I have now read 2 reviews of the fight and both said Gorres should have won. Even Manny,who was in the crowd,says that that ref should have cautioned him instead of taking points away! WOW! Getting robbed in your OWN backyard must suck balls!

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Yeah, Gorres felt pretty bad after the fight. However, Montiel did mention to Gorres that he will be a future champion soon and that he fought a really good fight. Montiel even shouted right after the match that he loved Cebu. Class act for a champion like Montiel ;D. Mexican's fighters are beginning to realize that for as long as they give their best, Filipino's (especially those living in the Philippines) give them respect, win or lose. Oscar Larios experienced it. Erik Morales was initially afraid going to the Philippines but was pleasantly surprised how well he is liked in the Philippines. Montiel experienced the Filipino hospitality before and after the fight.

And for Gorres, he definitely made a name for himself. He gained everyone's respect even if he lost. A mark of a true fighter and champion.

So, believe it or not, it is not winning or losing that counts, but how you play the game. . .

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welcome to saddoboxing, tol. 8)

up on youtube, so can see for yourself, I'm about to watch it

Rounds 1-3: http://youtube.com/watch?v=KaPCwzrwyqc

Rounds 4-6: http://youtube.com/watch?v=OCrYbM44FT0

Rounds 7-9: http://youtube.com/watch?v=fN-2cvAYIcU

Rounds 10-12: http://youtube.com/watch?v=1SM1vXlmj0s

Saw the fight. Did not think the ref should have taken points away. Did not agree with the judge that scored it 115-111 for Montiel; without the 2 point deduction that judge would have scored it lopsided win for Montiel which was far from the case. It was a fun fight to watch. I thought Gorrez absolutely schooled Montiel in the mid rounds up to the tenth. Montiel just had a harder punch but seems like was the more damaged fighter after the fight based on facial injuries. I thought Z was robbed. Nothing new in boxing though. The ref was biased, could be cuz he was latino. The other judge from West Covina was Mexican so you never know. I think Z was absolutely robbed in that fight though. Just an opinion. Great fight though.

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Originally Posted by halo

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Yeah,I have now read 2 reviews of the fight and both said Gorres should have won. Even Manny,who was in the crowd,says that that ref should have cautioned him instead of taking points away! WOW! Getting robbed in your OWN backyard must suck balls!

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Yeah, Gorres felt pretty bad after the fight. However, Montiel did mention to Gorres that he will be a future champion soon and that he fought a really good fight. Montiel even shouted right after the match that he loved Cebu. Class act for a champion like Montiel ;D. Mexican's fighters are beginning to realize that for as long as they give their best, Filipino's (especially those living in the Philippines) give them respect, win or lose. Oscar Larios experienced it. Erik Morales was initially afraid going to the Philippines but was pleasantly surprised how well he is liked in the Philippines. Montiel experienced the Filipino hospitality before and after the fight.

And for Gorres, he definitely made a name for himself. He gained everyone's respect even if he lost. A mark of a true fighter and champion.

So, believe it or not, it is not winning or losing that counts, but how you play the game. . .

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welcome to saddoboxing, tol. 8)

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Thanks for the welcome and CC bro...ingat

REMATCH! on nuetral ground.

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Originally Posted by a harmful of swallows

REMATCH! on nuetral ground.

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i've read that montiel isn't keen on giving gorres a rematch.

I scored the fight 113-113. A rematch would be ideal

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

I scored the fight 113-113. A rematch would be ideal

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so you gave 7 rounds to gorrez and 5 rounds to montiel. if not for the deductions i presume you scored it 115-113 gorrez?

a rematch i think will favor montiel since he now knows what to expect of gorrez. he will try to make the rematch a slugfest from the very start and avoid a technical boxing match.

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Originally Posted by puga_ni_nana

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

I scored the fight 113-113. A rematch would be ideal

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so you gave 7 rounds to gorrez and 5 rounds to montiel. if not for the deductions i presume you scored it 115-113 gorrez?

a rematch i think will favor montiel since he now knows what to expect of gorrez. he will try to make the rematch a slugfest from the very start and avoid a technical boxing match.

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Yes I did have Gorrez 7 rounds to 5. But the points deductions were just. Gorrez damn near tackled Montiel in an effort to keep from getting knocked out in the 10th. And I have no idea why he was holding as much as he was in the 12th. Gorrez has no one to blame but himself.