McCall dominates Wilson again!
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I honestly think Oliver could take any of the title holders not named Klitschko.
The Atomic Bull is a bad ass.....I've met him, he doesn't act like a bad ass but he is. Coming up as Tyson's sparring partner and KO-ing Lennox Lewis and never being knocked down EVER considering who he has fought.....he's tough as nails
I always thought Mcall was under rated and could really make an impact . Its his inactivity and mental instability that have been his major barriers from breaking through .
Ive only ever seen him touch down once against Akinwande but it wasnt counted and his only defeat inside the distance was to Lennox . Last time I saw him though he was sporting a big belly and had the look of an old man . Hope he gets a big fight so we can see what he has left .
Oliver Mccall 2 words great chin
Uh..... your Joking right??
The guy McCall just beat was 12-41-4 !!
He had a draw and 5 wins to start his career so since his first loss on his 7th fight he is
6-41-3 DIG? he hasn't had 2 wins in row in 50 fights!! The guy is absolute and utter sh1te!
A guy ranked #5 is fighting this guy!? and the Atomic Bull who you think could beat any HW in the world other than the Klitschkos counld't stop the guy!? MAN O" MAN! you are on crack!
Perhaps the only guy McCall could beat who has a belt IS Wlad.
Simply because of Wlad's suspect chin and stamina issues
Is it difficult being that stupid Landmine???Quote:
Originally Posted by landmine950
Oliver has never been knocked down and he has power......he could beat Oleg Maskaev.
McCall is still a good fighter with a hard right cross.....your boy Nicolay Valuev got wobbled by Monte fucking Barrett who hadn't fought ANYONE in a year who's to say McCall couldn't KO his ass?
I agree with Lyle on this one. AS does the overwhelming majority of coherent adults.
He didn't ko Lewis... he knocked him down, and as a spectator it looked like a bad decision on the ref's part.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
He could beat Oleg Maskaev..ya...anything COULD happenQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
This washed up 200 year old nothing is taken the distance by some total bum and now in your mind "he can take ANY of the current Title holders""
(with the exception of anyone named Klitschko)
Buddy if you REALLY believe THAT and you boozeboxer...well.....
I don't even know what to say...
Who has Oliver fought lately to make you think this way?
I don't understand!?
I already talked about Marion Wilson
Yanqui Diaz? no wins in his last 6 fights including Losses to Kirk Johnson (down 3 times) and Samuel Peter (down 5! times!)
Darroll Wilson? Hasn't had a win since 2002?
Kenny Craven? 7 losses in his previous 11 fights before McCall?
Wallace McDaniel? now 8-17-1?
A "coked out" Juan Carlos Gomez?
Since Lewis, Oliver McCAll stepped up once and he lost to Davarryl Williamson who is a smallish moderatly skilled HW..
He has maybe a punchers chance but only against guys who have a suspect chin or at least have shown that they can be KO'd
Briggs? never been KO'd (2 Technical stoppages), none in last 12 fights
Maskaev? 2 KO losses + 2 Tko's ,none in last 12 fights
Wlad 3 KO losses, 2 in last 9 fights!
so maybe he has a punchers chance against them, but then so does ANY decent punching HW, and the one honestly with the most and most recent KO losses is Wlad
as for Valuev? Ko losses...uh...let's see......that would be.....scans down the list....uh...........oh ya....none.
Maybe TKO's?......ya...none of those either....actually ya....no losses..
ya thats right I forgot! he's 46-0 never been KO'D never been stopped, never been DOWN!
But I don't want to argue Valuev......what do you like so much about McCall
I saw his fight before this one and I thought he looked like crap. Or at least NO WHERE NEAR what a top HW should look like. MAybe if he takes out a few of the other Old horses he can make a case for himself...say Tua and evander or some combo of 3 or so of the guys on my warhorse post list.
[quote=landmine950 ]
dont forget he already has beaten Oleg.. in one round TKOQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Mcall has already knocked out Oleg Maskaev in 1 round . It would be silly to write off a guy like Mcall with his credentials .
He KO'd Oleg Maskaev 10 years ago!!!
At the time Maskaev only had 6 pro fights!!! McCall had 32..
McCalls 42 now....I dunno....punchers chance maybe...Deserving a title shot? no Way!
Landmine....deserving of a title shot or not he's fought fighters on par with what Valuev fought right before his title shot.
VALUEV?
McCall is 50-8 you see the second number there...the 8.....that number signifies the number of times that a fighter has lost. That means that he has been beaten in a professional fight by 8 other fighters ar at least has lost or "failed to win" 8 times
Valuev has 47 wins. so Now with Valuev the second number on his record that shows the number of loss........es.........uh......oh ya...there is no second number there.........its a zero...
Can you KINDA see where the differance is? A bit?
McCall lost to
Buster Douglas
Orlin Norris
Tony Tucker
Frank Bruno
and of course Lennox and Williamson to name just SOME of the guys who beat him....
Here's the list of guys Valuev lost to.
Here I'll re type it for you.
DIG?
I know you just wanted me to talk about Valuev but lets get back to McCall!
McCAll isn't going to beat any top HW in the Division unless he gets a shot against one of the
"China Chin" brothers. and they won't fight him..ever.
I would like to see McCall against some of the guys on my war horse list.
Who there do you think he has a 90% chance (not just a punchers chance) to beat esp if it goes the distance? And the reason. Sure if he connects he could beat any of them, but as Tua is showing and McCall showed in his last fights those KO's get harder and harder to find.
(credit where due McCAll did have Ko stoppages in 6 of his last 7!)
Oliver Mcall ?? lol .. please Marion Wlison?? 12wins - 5 knockouts - 41 losses.. yeah Oliver is a badass alright ;D I just taking a stab at yeah , like you do everyone else. ! 8) have a :coolclick: # 996 no hard feelings ! O0Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
All we are saying is that he COULD take Maskeav. Hell that isnt like saying he is the greatest of all time. That isnt even saying a helluva lot to be honest.
You jump our shit because Valuev hasn't fought anyone that is legitimate and won decisively. Valuev has been fighting people like Lyle and Myself. Really you are mad at yourself LAndmine950.
...you get a coolclick from me boozeboxer.....but honestly I think if Valuev fought you or me it would be a step up ;D
valuev did lose he lost to ruiz ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by landmine950
....and Larry Donald
LOL! you guys.......geez...... ::**
...other than those two he has basically fought women and retards
There's 2 reasons why a fight against you wouldn't be a step in class for Valuev ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Really??...., I thought you were kidding when you said he fought you and boozeboxer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
You are on the attack again. Landmine I do enjoy your tactics, regardless of how silly they are. By the way, you enjoyed the Miranda fight didn't you?? All in all a kick ass night for boxing. C/Quote:
Originally Posted by landmine950
....mostly because Nicolay Valuev took the night off.....am I right?