EXCLUSIVE!!!!!!!!!!!Hopkins next for Calzaghe in the USA!!!

Was talking to Enzo Calzaghe on Sunday and I got to say he is crazier than a box of frogs.He is as nice a bloke you can hope to meet.Totaly different to the way he comes across on tv.

He was a bit hugover and said him and Joe were on the piss Saturday night at a charity function.
I asked him how Joes weight was and he said there have been a few ups and downs but its ok.
I tried to get a prediction out of him for the upcoming fight with Manfrado and he said the only thing he does not bet on are Joes fights and the Italian football team.

I could not belive how totally open he was about things.he said Joes next fight was going to be Hopkins if the money was right.He said they wanted about 4 million,did not say if this was pounds or dollars.Said Calzaghe was not interested in fighting Tarver or Taylor.

Im glad there is no history between Hopkins and Calzaghe where money is concerned, might throw a spanner in the works.

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Originally Posted by porkypara

Was talking to Enzo Calzaghe on Sunday and I got to say he is crazier than a box of frogs.He is as nice a bloke you can hope to meet.Totaly different to the way he comes across on tv.

He was a bit hugover and said him and Joe were on the piss Saturday night at a charity function.
I asked him how Joes weight was and he said there have been a few ups and downs but its ok.
I tried to get a prediction out of him for the upcoming fight with Manfrado and he said the only thing he does not bet on are Joes fights and the Italian football team.

I could not belive how totally open he was about things.he said Joes next fight was going to be Hopkins if the money was right.He said they wanted about 4 million,did not say if this was pounds or dollars.Said Calzaghe was not interested in fighting Tarver or Taylor.

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i really hope this is true

It is, at best, a hopeful prospect for Calzaghe. Hopkins is fighting Wright in July, who knows what will happen. Win or lose, he should retire, though if he convincingly beats Winky noone could really deny that he and Calzaghe would be huge.. But like I say, it's just a wish imo... Hopkins has enough to get by with Wright already, and even if he does win that and decide to fight on there's always the money which has stopped these guys from fighting before like Memphis says. This is really a fight that can't be taken seriously until it's on paper.

I will believe it when they both are in the ring together. There has been so much talk lately of Joe C. vs Bhop, RJJ, Taylor, Tarver, I wont believe a thing till they are in the ring.

It wont happen in a million years.

Even if it did, who cares? let's honest - it would be lousy.

At this point even IF the fight comes off, Joe wont get any credit IF he won. Beating a guy that came out of a short retirement to fight. Not that it will actually happen.

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Originally Posted by CityOfGod

It wont happen in a million years.

Even if it did, who cares? let's honest - it would be lousy.

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Why's that? I think their styles clash big time, makes for an interesting match if nothing else..

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Originally Posted by CityOfGod

It wont happen in a million years.

Even if it did, who cares? let's honest - it would be lousy.

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Why's that? I think their styles clash big time, makes for an interesting match if nothing else..

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I think perhaps Joe would be cagey and wouldn't commit wheras Bernard would be sneaking round the outside attacking and clinching.

I dont see a huge punch-up occuring at any point.

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It wont happen in a million years.

Even if it did, who cares? let's honest - it would be lousy.

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Why's that? I think their styles clash big time, makes for an interesting match if nothing else..

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I think perhaps Joe would be cagey and wouldn't commit wheras Bernard would be sneaking round the outside attacking and clinching.

I dont see a huge punch-up occuring at any point.

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Well considering this would be the mega fight of Calzaghes career, you'd think he should commit, or at least know that he would have to in order to win.. He's not going to beat Hopkins by fighting like him, tactically from the outside.. he'd need to be busy and try and work on the inside. I could see a Hopkins win being boring if indeed Joe doesn't commit.. But I think Calzaghe could make Hopkins fight at this point in his career, and he'd certainly have to try..

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It wont happen in a million years.

Even if it did, who cares? let's honest - it would be lousy.

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Why's that? I think their styles clash big time, makes for an interesting match if nothing else..

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I think perhaps Joe would be cagey and wouldn't commit wheras Bernard would be sneaking round the outside attacking and clinching.

I dont see a huge punch-up occuring at any point.

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Well considering this would be the mega fight of Calzaghes career, you'd think he should commit, or at least know that he would have to in order to win.. He's not going to beat Hopkins by fighting like him, tactically from the outside.. he'd need to be busy and try and work on the inside. I could see a Hopkins win being boring if indeed Joe doesn't commit.. But I think Calzaghe could make Hopkins fight at this point in his career, and he'd certainly have to try..

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I think that Calzaghe woulnd't even try to fight it from the outside if they did get it together in the ring, he's at his best when he's harassing fighters and throwing punches from all angles. I can't imagine him being cagey unless he's 10 rounds up with two to go, and then I might suggest he's entitled to.

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It wont happen in a million years.

Even if it did, who cares? let's honest - it would be lousy.

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Why's that? I think their styles clash big time, makes for an interesting match if nothing else..

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I think perhaps Joe would be cagey and wouldn't commit wheras Bernard would be sneaking round the outside attacking and clinching.

I dont see a huge punch-up occuring at any point.

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Well considering this would be the mega fight of Calzaghes career, you'd think he should commit, or at least know that he would have to in order to win.. He's not going to beat Hopkins by fighting like him, tactically from the outside.. he'd need to be busy and try and work on the inside. I could see a Hopkins win being boring if indeed Joe doesn't commit.. But I think Calzaghe could make Hopkins fight at this point in his career, and he'd certainly have to try..

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I think that Calzaghe woulnd't even try to fight it from the outside if they did get it together in the ring, he's at his best when he's harassing fighters and throwing punches from all angles. I can't imagine him being cagey unless he's 10 rounds up with two to go, and then I might suggest he's entitled to.

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Yea thats what Id expect/hope for... Hopkins has also been in his element against just that sort of fighter as well, plus Joes a southpaw. I think Calzaghe could beat Hopkins and set a pace that would be a bit much if it went the distance, but at the same time a southpaw who stays busy, comes forward and throws alot of punches, leaves Hopkins with a lot of oppourunities to do what he does best as well... I think it'd be a great matchup personally.

I'll believe it when I see it. And JC would beat Hopkins ass at this point in their careers. Whether you like JC or not,his style is a nightmare for anyone! Geart stamina,strong,southpaw,throws punches from all sorts of angles,great movement etc.

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Originally Posted by porkypara

Was talking to Enzo Calzaghe on Sunday and I got to say he is crazier than a box of frogs.He is as nice a bloke you can hope to meet.Totaly different to the way he comes across on tv.

He was a bit hugover and said him and Joe were on the piss Saturday night at a charity function.
I asked him how Joes weight was and he said there have been a few ups and downs but its ok.
I tried to get a prediction out of him for the upcoming fight with Manfrado and he said the only thing he does not bet on are Joes fights and the Italian football team.

I could not belive how totally open he was about things.he said Joes next fight was going to be Hopkins if the money was right.He said they wanted about 4 million,did not say if this was pounds or dollars.Said Calzaghe was not interested in fighting Tarver or Taylor.

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i really hope this is true

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On my daughters life,thats what he said.If it happens or not is an other thing.

Did you ask him if he or Joe are aware of the response to him fighting Manfredo?

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Originally Posted by Memphis

Did you ask him if he or Joe are aware of the response to him fighting Manfredo?

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What do you think?


I think we all understand the reason why he is talking the Manfredo fight even if we dont like it or agree with it.

Just hope the gamble pays off and Joes is able to get a mega fight some time soon.

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Originally Posted by Memphis

Did you ask him if he or Joe are aware of the response to him fighting Manfredo?

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It would be nice for someone to be direct and point out the realities of the backlash Calzaghe is getting...and Hopkins "If the money is right"?...I wouldnt hold my breath...

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Originally Posted by miles

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Originally Posted by Memphis

Did you ask him if he or Joe are aware of the response to him fighting Manfredo?

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It would be nice for someone to be direct and point out the realities of the backlash Calzaghe is getting...and Hopkins "If the money is right"?...I wouldnt hold my breath...

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Dont shoot the messenger mate....just saying like he said it.

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Originally Posted by Memphis

Did you ask him if he or Joe are aware of the response to him fighting Manfredo?

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What do you think?


I think we all understand the reason why he is talking the Manfredo fight even if we dont like it or agree with it.

Just hope the gamble pays off and Joes is able to get a mega fight some time soon.

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I dont know mate, thats why I asked. I wouldnt be surprised if they were oblivious to it to be honest.

Im happy to admit I dont understand the reason or him fighting Manfredo.

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Did you ask him if he or Joe are aware of the response to him fighting Manfredo?

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What do you think?


I think we all understand the reason why he is talking the Manfredo fight even if we dont like it or agree with it.

Just hope the gamble pays off and Joes is able to get a mega fight some time soon.

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I dont know mate, thats why I asked. I wouldnt be surprised if they were oblivious to it to be honest.

Im happy to admit I dont understand the reason or him fighting Manfredo.

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Manfredo is a name in American boxing,not saying he is very good or even deservers to fight for the world title but people know the guy.

American TV want him to fight Calzaghe coz they will get higher ratings than if an unkown European was to fight him.Even if the European is better and deservers the fight more.

Its not fair but thats boxing for you.

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Originally Posted by porkypara

I could not belive how totally open he was about things.he said Joes next fight was going to be Hopkins if the money was right.He said they wanted about 4 million,did not say if this was pounds or dollars.Said Calzaghe was not interested in fighting Tarver or Taylor.

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I can see why there would be no interest in Tarver. Frankly, I have no interest in seeing Tarver fight either.
But why wouldn't he want to fight Taylor? Taylor is smaller than him and hasn't looked that good recently, but he is still a star and has a big name. I wonder why Calzaghe wouldn't be interested in fighting Taylor.

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Originally Posted by Memphis

Did you ask him if he or Joe are aware of the response to him fighting Manfredo?

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What do you think?


I think we all understand the reason why he is talking the Manfredo fight even if we dont like it or agree with it.

Just hope the gamble pays off and Joes is able to get a mega fight some time soon.

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I dont know mate, thats why I asked. I wouldnt be surprised if they were oblivious to it to be honest.

Im happy to admit I dont understand the reason or him fighting Manfredo.

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Manfredo is a name in American boxing,not saying he is very good or even deservers to fight for the world title but people know the guy.

American TV want him to fight Calzaghe coz they will get higher ratings than if an unkown European was to fight him.Even if the European is better and deservers the fight more.

Its not fair but thats boxing for you.

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Manfredo may be a big name, but he is not a name tha will draw in viewers to see the fight. Manfredo is a big draw in his hometown but outside of that at best its a crap shoot. Joe's camp is just using this as an excuse for fighting an American that isnt going to give Joe any problems. Manfredo's a big name, and we need to fight a big name to get more known in America, bunch of crap. Manfredo is a big name to the general public and the general public doesnt buy PPV's unless it is ODLH or Tyson.

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Manfredo may be a big name, but he is not a name tha will draw in viewers to see the fight. Manfredo is a big draw in his hometown but outside of that at best its a crap shoot. Joe's camp is just using this as an excuse for fighting an American that isnt going to give Joe any problems. Manfredo's a big name, and we need to fight a big name to get more known in America, bunch of crap. Manfredo is a big name to the general public and the general public doesnt buy PPV's unless it is ODLH or Tyson.

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Interesting

If it's only genuine boxing fans that are buying the likes of Hopkins-Tarver-Wright-Taylor PPVs (average 250,000 to 400,000??) then why would these people not fork-out to see Calzaghe facing these guys?

Hopkins is a good name but he is old now and if Calzaghe beats him thats what they will all say

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Did you ask him if he or Joe are aware of the response to him fighting Manfredo?

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It would be nice for someone to be direct and point out the realities of the backlash Calzaghe is getting...and Hopkins "If the money is right"?...I wouldnt hold my breath...

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Dont shoot the messenger mate....just saying like he said it.

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Didnt mean to sound like I was having a go there. Calzaghe has been one of my favourite fighters for years, but even I am getting a bit weary of how things have evolved since Lacy...

I will laugh my head off if Manfredo beats him it will serve Joe right for not getting the big fights earlier lets not forget the saying about a fighter getting old overnight Joe ain't that young anymore its just a thought.

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I will laugh my head off if Manfredo beats him it will serve Joe right for not getting the big fights earlier lets not forget the saying about a fighter getting old overnight Joe ain't that young anymore its just a thought.

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Manfredo wont be the man to beat Calzaghe.

Hopkins is good for the money IMO, but beating an old Hopkins wont actually make me respect Calzaghe more.

Kessler is the fight I want and it should have been instead of bloody Manfredo!! >:mad :-\

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Hopkins is a good name but he is old now and if Calzaghe beats him thats what they will all say

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Less than 12 months ago Lacy was the second coming

NOW nothing more than a overhyped-useless-novice-shit-cunt

Doesn't matter who Calzaghe beats there'll always be a reason to knock the form...doesn't exactly help himself facing the likes of Manfredo though ::**

Yes he beat Jeff Lacy but he can't live off that for the rest of his life it was a good win and thats it. He needs more

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Hopkins is a good name but he is old now and if Calzaghe beats him thats what they will all say

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Less than 12 months ago Lacy was the second coming

NOW nothing more than a overhyped-useless-novice-S***-c***

Doesn't matter who Calzaghe beats there'll always be a reason to knock the form...doesn't exactly help himself facing the likes of Manfredo though ::**

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And Lacy being declared those expletives by many of those very same people who picked him to stop Calzaghe...revisionism and hypocrisy through and through...

Facing Manfredo is a bloody joke and it does only continue to give ammo to the critics who would make ammo from anything...

Kessler is the fight the fans need would be nice for july time

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Hopkins is a good name but he is old now and if Calzaghe beats him thats what they will all say

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Less than 12 months ago Lacy was the second coming

NOW nothing more than a overhyped-useless-novice-S***-c***

Doesn't matter who Calzaghe beats there'll always be a reason to knock the form...doesn't exactly help himself facing the likes of Manfredo though ::**

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And Lacy being declared those expletives by many of those very same people who picked him to stop Calzaghe...revisionism and hypocrisy through and through...

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Yeah makes me laugh...not just from the idiots either...So called knowledagble voices/experts.

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Kessler is the fight the fans need would be nice for july time

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Mate, there's more chance of bilbo being right about dinosaurs and evolution than there is of that happening in July

Slim and none and slims offed it

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Hopkins is a good name but he is old now and if Calzaghe beats him thats what they will all say

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Less than 12 months ago Lacy was the second coming

NOW nothing more than a overhyped-useless-novice-S***-c***

Doesn't matter who Calzaghe beats there'll always be a reason to knock the form...doesn't exactly help himself facing the likes of Manfredo though ::**

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And Lacy being declared those expletives by many of those very same people who picked him to stop Calzaghe...revisionism and hypocrisy through and through...

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Yeah makes me laugh...not just from the idiots either...So called knowledagble voices/experts.

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Agreed completely. :coolclick:, Fenster

But Calzaghe sure makes it tough for his supporters sometimes, and more so after his biggest triumph thus far! :-\

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Kessler is the fight the fans need would be nice for july time

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Mate, there's more chance of bilbo being right about dinosaurs and evolution than there is of that happening in July

Slim and none and slims offed it

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It could happen if they wanted it to july is 3 month after Manfredo fight he would get a rest and a 10 week training camp for then

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Kessler is the fight the fans need would be nice for july time

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Mate, there's more chance of bilbo being right about dinosaurs and evolution than there is of that happening in July

Slim and none and slims offed it

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Dont get that hobbit back on about all that again. I was visited by a UFO last night that told me that all life on earth is a big experiment being conducted by an alien emperor called Oswald. He could be wrong but he was terribly persuasive...

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Kessler is the fight the fans need would be nice for july time

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Mate, there's more chance of bilbo being right about dinosaurs and evolution than there is of that happening in July

Slim and none and slims offed it

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It could happen if they wanted it to july is 3 month after Manfredo fight he would get a rest and a 10 week training camp for then

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Nah, Calzaghe is accident prone and there would be something to delay it. All things going well its a possibility, but we dont even know if Calzaghe cares less about a Kessler fight.

I think Calzaghe should fight Kessler, it doesnt mean Calzaghe does...

CC back miles

Thought you was on your way to a Bill Hicks joke there ;D

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Kessler is the fight the fans need would be nice for july time

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Mate, there's more chance of bilbo being right about dinosaurs and evolution than there is of that happening in July

Slim and none and slims offed it

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It could happen if they wanted it to july is 3 month after Manfredo fight he would get a rest and a 10 week training camp for then

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Thats too short a time for Calzaghe. Look at the intervals betwwen his fights over the years, especially recently, with the injuries and what not

They'll probably schedule a fight for the summer but guarantee he wont fight again until September/October

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CC back miles

Thought you was on your way to a Bill Hicks joke there ;D

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Kessler is the fight the fans need would be nice for july time

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Mate, there's more chance of bilbo being right about dinosaurs and evolution than there is of that happening in July

Slim and none and slims offed it

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It could happen if they wanted it to july is 3 month after Manfredo fight he would get a rest and a 10 week training camp for then

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Thats too short a time for Calzaghe. Look at the intervals betwwen his fights over the years, especially recently, with the injuries and what not

They'll probably schedule a fight for the summer but guarantee he wont fight again until September/October

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CC to both you guys some good positive comments miles and fenster

I seldom do abstract and random on this board, so cheers for the Bill Hicks thing Fenster! :P

And of course, click right back Tysonbruno, you posting machine, you! ;D