whats your thoughts on the dark destroyer? any fans?
i'm a big fan of nige and think he always made for an exciting fight. he had some balls on him did nige :-)
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whats your thoughts on the dark destroyer? any fans?
i'm a big fan of nige and think he always made for an exciting fight. he had some balls on him did nige :-)
great power great heart one of most exciting fighters ever his flaws are he sometimes works too hard in early going and runs out of steam in later rounds his defence isnt that great and his chin is suspect but what can i say i love his fighting style i always enjoy a good old dark destroyer fightQuote:
Originally Posted by jbirdy
Benn is one of my favorite Middleweight's of all time. a very exciting fighter, He would meet fire with fire, no problem. O0
he's a legend mate. yeah he did run out of steam sometimes cos of his pace early on then he would pay the price and get stoped. perfect example is his fight with watson. but that style always made for an exciting fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
I agree with all the positive things said above, + he had a very likable personality aswell,
can anyone remember the gladiator tv show he did with eubank a few years back? it was well funny. nige is so naturally competative he puts 100% into everything he does. probably something to do with his time in the royal fusiliers
yea i remember that benn won didnt he ??Quote:
Originally Posted by jbirdy
I always preferred Eubank but the pair of them were amazing, they had some great battles.
yep benn won it i think. eubank wasnt really up for it and was just winging the whole time while nige was just getting on with it. there was a few moments where it looked like it was gonna kick off aswell.
watch to Benn v Gary Logan commonwealth middle title fight
2 round war
hagler hearns 2 lol
that nige benn in a nutshell
you mean anthony logan bro ??Quote:
Originally Posted by althetruthhindley
YEA I DO I JUST WATCHED IT AGAIN SLIP OF THE TONGUE GUYS THANKS FOR POINTING OUT MY MISTAKEQuote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
WOT A PRICK LOL YES TONY LOGAN HEHE
no prob mate if i remember right benn was down in first and was getting beat badly in 2 round he got hit with 20+ punch flurry or something like that then hook out of nowhere knocks logan out unbelieveable fight 8)Quote:
Originally Posted by althetruthhindley
the fight is on utube and yes benn was down in first and in trouble in second misses with huge right and come up from the floor with a BIG LEFT and goodnightQuote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
yeah was surprised they signed up 4 that showQuote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
also think that benn hates eubank so much cos he never beat him, same way eubank did'nt beat steve collinsQuote:
Originally Posted by Drago
he was brytal at the start of his pro career and i remember a quote he gave on itv after stopping an oppenent. he complained that the ref stopped the fight because he wanted to keep hitting him. i remember when he boxed ian chantler 1 punch he threw and knocked him out including the count in 16 seconds. he was wild when he started then somehow turned into a boxer, but after the mcclellan fight he went down hill and wasnt the same. that said steve collins did say benn hit him harder than anyone he'd ever boxed.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbirdy
great fighter read his book not so long ago very good book
hope u dont mean the dark destroyer book cos that was the worst boxing book i ever read
When you think of Nigel Benn, you think of words like fury, rage, and ferocity. These were his trademarks in the ring and provided uncommon excitement and entertainment. Unfortunetely, his career defining fight ended with tragic results and sometimes detracts from his entire body of work. As one writer stated, " One man’s finest hour was the end of another man’s life as he knew it." Let's look at that work now and see how his accomplishments stack up insofar as being a prospective inductee into the Internationa Boxing Hall Of Fame.
Record: Nigel "The Dark Destroyer" Benn, a Middleweight and Super Middleweight Champion, 42 - 5 - 1 with 35 ko's, was born in Liford, England the son of Barbadian immigrants. As an amature, Benn had a fine record of 41 wins and 1 loss. His ko percentage was an excellent 83%.
Style: Ostensibly an orthodox fighter, he was a bomber and is still considered to be one of the hardest punchers of all time, but when he fought at the top level, he sometimes and inexplicably became somewhat unglued. Still, his ferocity and velocity were unmatched and were launched with evil intentions, the purest of rage, and often punctuated with a whirlwind of deadly hooks and uppercuts from all angles. With Nigel, the thing was his excitement and unpredicatablity. You knew what to expect...or maybe you didn’t.... which made him so exciting. He would come out bombing and winging and try to ko his opponents in short order usually knocking them out, but his "take no prisoner" strategy sometimes meant that he himself would be stopped. Some even called him one of boxing’s bad boys, and labeled his style as downright dirty. I'll refer to it as “win at all cost."
As to the rage that seemed to be an inherent part of his persona, a reading of his compelling autobiography "Dark Destroyer," a great boxing book, offers many clues and glimpses into what made Benn fight with such ferocity and fury. It is highly recommended and rather than spoil it for you, I will keep silent as to its content. At any rate, Nigel presented an unabashedly snarling mien and personified the aura of a person you would not want to meet in a dark alley. In short, he was one tough guy!
Quality of Opposition: Excellent. Aside from the hapless Winston Burnett (who would finish with 20-98-3), Benn fought boxers with mostly decent records in his early years, a departure from the norm. Guys like Reggie Miller, Abdul Umaru Sanda, Darren Hobson, Nicky Piper, Jamaican Anthony Logan, Kid Milo, Canadian Dan Sherry, Puerto Rican Jose Quinones, American Sanderline Williams, Congolese Mbayo Wa Mbayo, David Noel, and Argentinian Hector Lescano all came in with winning records.
He then stepped up to a higher level to fight South African Thulani Malinga (twice), Italian and former WBC Super Middleweight champion Mauro Galvano (twice), former world champion Chris Eubank (twice), Juan Carlos Gimenez Ferreyra (46-6-3 coming in), future world champ and victor over "Sugar Boy" Mailnga (40-9 at the time), Vincenzo Nardiello (26-3), Michale Watson )21-1-1 coming in) and, of course. world champion Steve Collins (twice). While the names here might not resonate as much with an average American boxing fan as they do with one in Europe or the UK, they should strike a intimate chord with all serious boxing fans regardless of location. These fighters, along with Herol Graham and Robin Reid, represented the cream of the crop during a great era of fighters in the UK. But Benn also fought two top Americans in Iran "The Blade" Barkley (a warrior who fought in a savage manner not unlike Benn's) and the great Gerald McCllelan and beat them both by stoppage. O course, he beat Dough Dewitt as well. In short, Benn was competitive with the world's best.
Chronology: As a juvenile, he was a delinquent to say the least, but a four-year tenure as a soldier in the Royal Fusiliers, which he credits as the turning point in his life, forced him embrace a need for self discipline. Benn turned professional in 1987 and began a remarkable streak of 22 consecutive ko wins (100% ko percentage). The streak extended until 1989 during which time he beat tough Fernin Cherino, and then won the British commonwealth Middleweight title with a win over Abdul Umaru. But he lost this title to the very tough Michael Watson by a 6th round knockout and with it his undefeated record as well.
His next fight with limited Jorge Amparo was his first abroad and the first to go the distance. After two more wins, he got his initial opportunity at a world championship and made the most of it. He duked it out for the WBO World Middleweight champion with Doug Dewitt. Benn captured the crown by knocking out the resilient and granite-chin DeWitt (who had lasted 12 rounds against Thomas Hearns) in the 8th round. His first defense came against former world champion Iran "The Blade" Barkley and after being badly rocked himself, he knocked out Barkley in round one in a furious and savage shoot-out which was Benn's trademark. Eventually, however, he lost the world title when he was knocked out in round nine by countryman, the flamboyant Chris Eubank.
In 1991, he ko'd the vastly underrated Robbie Sims and half-brother of Marvin Hagler. Sims had beaten Roberto Duran and many other top level fighters like Tony Chiaverini, Doug Dewitt, and John Collins. Reflective of Benn's power, that loss would be Robbie's only career stoppage defeat. He then embarked on another undefeated streak, this time reaching fifteen. After beating his future conqueror and world champion "Sugar Boy" Malinga by a 10 round decision, he won the WBC's world Super Middleweight title with a knockout in round four over defending world champion Mauro Galvano. After two more wins, he fought a rematch with with Eubank and retained his title with a twelve round draw. Next came tough Henry Wharton (undefeated coming in) and Juan Carlos Gimenez, both of whom he beat by decision.
I am not going to dwell on Benn's next fight (with the great bomber Gerald McClellan), for it has already received voluminous treatment, but I will not ignore it either and in this regard I quote Ian McNeilly who poignantly said, "The fight was one of the best and worst to ever take place. A triumphant and tragic microcosm of boxing." Clearly, it would change Nigel's life forever:....according to his trainer, the tragic results of that fight took away Nigel's fighting spirit.
Quoting McNeilly again, "The story of Gerald McClellan is a painful one, one that fighters, boxing writers and fans seem to find it easy not to discuss............This is because he is a living embodiment of the risks fighters take every time they step through the ropes, a reminder of the dangers that are ignored at peril. To dwell on cases like Gerald McClellan would destroy the sport. To ignore him is to debase ourselves." Hopefully, no serious boxing fan would ever ignore Gerald MeClellan.
The "Black Destroyer" would go on to beat future world champion Vincenzo Niardiello and game Danny Perez before losing to "Sugar Boy" Malinga the second time around by a 12 round decision. In so doing, he also would lose his WBC world title. Then, he was given a another chance at a world title.....this time the WBO's world title, but he lost to Steve Collins by 4th round knockout in Manchester (a fight in which controversy arose as to an injury to Benn's ankle)....and after losing the rematch, it was clear Nigel had come to the end of his glorious career. As writer Jack Dunne once said, ".....he lost to Steve Collins, twice by way of TKO, guess what? It was just Nigel's time, NOBODY fights forever. Father Time is STILL the undefeated, undisputed champion of the fight game, all times, all divisions."
Some say that Nigel Benn is mostly a "forgotten warrior" perhaps because he will forever be linked to Gerald McClellan and it is admittedly painful to think of him without remembering their tragic fight, one of the most brutal slugfests of all time. But if so, that is manifestly unfair. Any assesment of Benn must be based on his entertaining style and accomplishments in the ring. Again, to quote McNeilly, "...the many who watched saw a man [Benn] reach down into his inner being and summon something to destroy a force [McClellan] supposedly greater than himself [Gerald was a 4-1 favorite]. And as we looked on, amazed and enthralled, we cheered as life slipped away from a fellow man slumped, defeated, in his corner."
Whether he gets into the International Boxing Hall of Fame remains to be seen, but if he fails, it will not be because of his lack of providing incredible excitement and indelible memories for boxing fans throughout the world. Nigel Benn was an eccentric, a one of a kind and will not soon be forgotten by boxing aficionados.
He now lives with his family on the Spanish island of Mallorca where he became a Born-again Christian and, later on, an ordained pastor.
Well there it is. In recent weeks, I have done pieces on such Hall prospects as Vinny Paz, Hector Camacho, Riddick Bowe, Virgil Hill and Ray Mancini. In retrospect, I cannot help but feel Nigel Benn stacks up pretty darn well. After all, he was a two-time world champion who fought the best of UK competition at a time when that competition was keen and perhaps the best in the world, he beat two great American fighters, he always gave the crowd its money worth, and he finished with a great ko percentage.
As for those who say, "if you have to wonder about it, then he doesn’t belong," I say baloney.....because I'll show you any number of fighters in the Hall where I would have had to "wonder about it."
"The British press hate a winner who's British. They don't like any British man to have balls as big as a cow's like I have.” Nigel Benn
Lol, what can be said about Nige :)
cc mate Nigel was a great fighter and an awesome banger and in my opinion he would have hit to hard for Calzaghe his power was freakish at timesQuote:
Originally Posted by jbirdy
A cow has balls? :D
Nige was 150% entertainment.
Not like Gayfeather.
yea thats the book i really liked it wasnt just about boxing is that why u didnt like itQuote:
Originally Posted by Drago