Who wins? Coto vs Judah

I believe Cotto has the strength and abilities to beat Judah. However, Cotto has to be very careful and avoid Judah's to gain too much confidence, specially in the first half of the fight. Judah has fast hands and he is a hard puncher. These attributes make Judah very dangerous. If Cotto got hurt, Judah may not waste the opportunity to KO Cotto as Corley and Ricardo Torres. But as the fight progresses I expect Cotto to start wearing Judah with his body attack and win by TKO in late rounds.

Which are your thoughts on this fight?

Judah's such a front runner, he always looks good early but then starts to fade mentally and physically. If he catches you and you can manage to walk through it and keep on coming after a few rounds he just starts to fall apart.

But it would be a very dangerous fight for Cotto early, whenever he's gotten in trouble its been when he's had to walk someone down, which he would have to do in this one, and sometime's he's gotten reckless. And mental flaws aside, Judah can punch and he is fast. But I'd agree that Cotto would eventually break him down and stop him. Judah lasted with Baldomir after the 7th primarily cause of Baldomir just having limited offensive ability, Cotto's a lot more explosive than Carlos.

i can see this fight going either way. i going to pick judah. i think judah's speed power and defense will win him this fight. i actully think judah will hurt cotto early just like chop chop did. the difference is judah will be finish him.

on the flip side cotto could hurt judah early. you don't have to be terribly fast to hurt judah

so who knows what will happen.

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Originally Posted by OumaFan

Judah's such a front runner, he always looks good early but then starts to fade mentally and physically. If he catches you and you can manage to walk through it and keep on coming after a few rounds he just starts to fall apart.

But it would be a very dangerous fight for Cotto early, whenever he's gotten in trouble its been when he's had to walk someone down, which he would have to do in this one, and sometime's he's gotten reckless. And mental flaws aside, Judah can punch and he is fast. But I'd agree that Cotto would eventually break him down and stop him. Judah lasted with Baldomir after the 7th primarily cause of Baldomir just having limited offensive ability, Cotto's a lot more explosive than Carlos.

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I agree with you my friend. Judah's is very dangerous particularly in the early rounds. Also, in Floyd's fight he was competitive in the first couple of rounds, but eventually we all know what happened. Actually, last night Urkal could catch Cotto with couple of good combinations, and I will be concerned if Judah hit him like that. Still I expect Cotto to dominate in the late rounds, as they go the distance, and if there is no an early KO.

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Originally Posted by 'The Boxer'

i can see this fight going either way. i going to pick judah. i think judah's speed power and defense will win him this fight. i actully think judah will hurt cotto early just like chop chop did. the difference is judah will be finish him.

on the flip side cotto could hurt judah early. you don't have to be terribly fast to hurt judah

so who knows what will happen.

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Although, I pick Cotto as winner, I also agree with the comment that Judah can hurt Cotto early. And, if this happens, the story can be different to Ricardo Torres and Corley... But, if Cotto set up his body attack early and avoid Judah to gain confidence, and a good punch over his defense while attacking down, I see Judah in a very bad shape. Too many "if" right... This will be an interesting match.

the if's are what makes this fight so interesting

zab gets ktfo he does well in early rounds but constant pressure from cotto will make zab lose concentration and then gets knocked out in middle rounds

Yeah good post OumaFan good point about Cotto getting hurt walking people down. I've seen a lot of improvement thoguh in that aspect. He doesn't just do the earmuff thing anymore, he actually throws coming in. I haven't seen last nights fight yet but against Quintana he was very active moving in and moving out. So I think he's a lot better off coming in and moving out then a lot of people expected him to be.

And Judah, well I think his skills are overrated. He has good speed and pop but a very subpar defense and he isn't right around the edges. You can hit him with the straight right whenever you want basically, he gets hit a lot moving in or out and he drops his hands after every single punch. Most of the time when he is moving out, he's doing it hands down moving straight back. He's such an egotistical fighter and he thinks he can get away with doing all that and he won't get hurt. Then of course when he does get hurt he collapses.

I think we can count on a good 3 to 6 rounds from Zab before he is broken down. He's crumbled against guys who hit a lot lighter then Judah and it only takes one punch for it to happen. Even if he doesn't have a mental breakdown, I think Cotto is the more polished and disciplined boxer of the two.

Cotto by late rounds KO or more then likely it'll end up a UD.

Judah is very skilled HOWEVER he strays from fight plans and only seeks to land his left cross

Miguel Cotto will be able to crack Judah's chin more than likely the first time he hits him. The left hook will work vs Judah and Miguel is strong enough to shake Zab if Zab tries to clinch when he's hurt.

i think cotto should work in his right hand for judah. i don't think he will catch him with the left hook.

It's a good matchup in my opinion. Cotto really needs to beat Judah convincingly as he's damaged goods now with Tyszu teaching him a new dance, Baldimor adding a few steps and Mayweather playing him like an instrument for 12 rounds.

Still though I think if Judah can hold it together mentally he can win, especially against the Cotto that fought last night.

Was it just me or did he look a little podgy in their last night?

I actually thought the Urkal fight was closer than Lampley et all had it and Cotto seemed to be running out of ideas late on.

People, myself included have been very critical of Hatton in recent outings, well Cotto's performance against Urkal was on a par with Hatton's against Urango, certainly no better.

It's possible that Judah could fight the fight of his life and box Cotto's ears off, like Quintanta did to Joel Julio.

I'd certainly like to see that happen, about time Judah stepped up and fufilled his potential.

I'll go out on a limb and say an in focus Judah stuns the world and wins a landslide decision 118-112 or therabouts.

HBO sucks cottos balls. there to busy looking for the next tito objectively call a cotto fight.

judah by tko O0

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judah is just as dangerous for cotto as cotto is for judah in my eyes and i can see this fight going either way. cotto has been hurt before and judah is very quick and slick when he's at his best. but if judah looses his concentration again and fades on the stretch and cotto cathes him right then its goodnight for judah. i'll make a prediction in the coming months.

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judah is just as dangerous for cotto as cotto is for judah in my eyes and i can see this fight going either way. cotto has been hurt before and judah is very quick and slick when he's at his best. but if judah looses his concentration again and fades on the stretch and cotto cathes him right then its goodnight for judah. i'll make a prediction in the coming months.

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If the Judah that showed up against Mayweather (for the early part of the fight) and the Cotto from this last weekend shows up, I think Bilbo may be right. Judah definately has the style to beat Cotto. Furthermore IF Judah takes the early rounds, AND can keep his composure, he should be able to take it down the stretch.

Judah wins 8 rounds to 4

116 - 112

this fight makes me think about the cotto corley fight. only i think judah will finish cotto instead of play with him.

Judah is made to order for Cotto. If Baldimir can rock him with body shots, imagine what Cotto can do. Of course, Judah can box when his head is right, but that is an iffy possibility at best. Cotto should be able to crunch him up.

i can't see how anyboy can think judah is made to order for cotto. it's cool if you think cotto will win but this basicly a pickem fight.

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Originally Posted by Ted The Bull

Judah is made to order for Cotto. If Baldimir can rock him with body shots, imagine what Cotto can do. Of course, Judah can box when his head is right, but that is an iffy possibility at best. Cotto should be able to crunch him up.

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Me being a huge Cotto fan & a massive hater of all matters Judah...it might come as a shock to most that I am at a totally different end of the stick on this one as the Bull is.

Judah's made to order as a foil.

A focused Judah beats Cotto. The Judah that fought Spinks in the second go 'round outhustles Cotto down the stretch.

if judah fight cotto the way he fought baldomir for 3 or four rounds the fight might end early. it's not judahs skills that worry me it's brain.

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this makes for an interesting fight. i have wanted to see it for a long time. i say judah by tko as well. i think miguel cotto can be hit and the fact that he CAN be hit is gonna be increased by the left handed style of judah. thing is...the ring rust. zab's been out a year. will he not be having a tune up fight for this or what? that could make the difference. Judah in six by stoppage.

He'll have a tune up fight but you know sometimes Zab looks great in tuneup fights sometimes he looks bad.

In my opinion, Zab should have never left 140, he's be ruling that division right now and probably have two belts and then Ricky Hatton may have never moved up after winning his two belts, and then there would be Judah vs Hatton at 140 and that would have been a good pick em fight.

i think it was a good idea for him to move to 147. at the time nothing big seem to be happing for him at 140. he got a shot at the undisputed welterweight title against spinks.

Zab is over rated and his a glass jaw
Cotto by easy ko inside 3 rounds

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I was torn on this fight up until i saw cotto fight urkal. I know urkal was butt'n and hold'n, however, if cotto performs against judah like he did against urkal, he's gonna be in for a Long night/ or maybe a short one. If judah lands the punches that urkal was, this fight wont go the distance.
I lean towards judah.

Nice fight...If judah doesn't pull a Kostya moment and get overconfident he KO's Cotto...Both have shown the get hit and hurt, Zab is soo much faster than Cotto its silly, both fade in later rounds, Judah has fought far better competition and hopefully learned a bit from it(that is IF Zab can learn)...I think it doesn't go past 5 with Zab KOing Cotto, Cotto is way overrated imo...

Judah is gunna KO Cotto when Judah is in the mood he's a good boxer and he can bang Cotto as been down a few times but more than that he gets shook up bad a times

Judah's left-handed.
Judah's fast.
Judah's a good boxer.
Judah can punch.

























Cotto by KO in 8.

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I think that its a toss up.Zab has stamina problems and since he's tried to fight like mayweather(rolling his shoulders,parrying,etc...)he has been inconsistent.Cotto's body shots tearing zab up?I have to disagree based on the Malignaggi and Urkal fights b/c they both took his shots well.I'd say Cotto UD

judah by ko or tko sum sort of stoppage jusdah was putin a woopin on the p4p king in the irst 4 rounds
hes a beast regardless wat ppl say , he just not dedicated enough he wasnts to ahve to much fun but cotto needs a standing oponent to hit the body punches jusdahs is not ,thas how body punching is nuetrilized GOOD foot work

Judah has stamina problems what about Cotto he was running low on steam after the 6th with Urkal and it took him 11 rounds to stop him and it was the corner who pulled him out.Judah is gunna stop him he will be on form because this is abit of a last chance saloon for him to get back on top

they actually made a good point on HBO about the chances that Cotto has against Judah, I mean Judah was beat to the punch by the much slower, less skilled, and IMO weaker Baldomir (I believe Cotto is a harder puncher than Baldomir), I think that Cotto has all the tools to beat Judah, also he showed in his welterweight debut that he can deal with a strong crafty southpaw, and also showed against Urkal that he can mix things up and keep his opponant on and off his toes (the picking up incident), I mean I honestly believe that Cotto fights just as well and hits just as hard in the southpaw stance as he does in the orthodox stance (obviously him being a natural lefty has a lot to do with it), I think that against Judah, he'll either get inside and break Judah down to the body, or he'll counter with lead hooks and rights, and just frustrate him too much and lead to Judahs demise, much like both Baldomir and Mayweather did, the only difference is that I don't think that Judah will make it to the end of the 12th, either loosing by KO or by DQ.