Good matchup Sam Peter v David Tua

I was just thinking how this blend of styles will make a top matchup. Tua is a solid powerful pro with great chin.
Peters come forward style , i think maybe Sam wud try to use boxing skills and jab rather than meet Tua head on
but it wud be a good fight maybe like Ibeabuchi v Tua
WOT DO YOU GUYS THINK ?

Right now at this moment you gotta side with Peter the way he fought Toney was a huge improvement IMO from the 1st time they met. Peter learned how to fire off from angles and put combinations together he looke like a all around fighter....

Tua now I don't know man, I mean hes tough as nails and all but that alone doesn't win you fights. It's strange how some fighters take longer on the comeback then others I mean Tuas been back for a while and hes still in the same position that he was when he cameback...

All in all I say Peter UD pretty decisive by 4 rounds or so.....

I cant wait to see Sam Peter fight again. Im just keen to see how/if he's still developing with the sort of speed we witnesed between those two Toney fights... I mean we got the Ali shuffle... What next, the shoulder roll?! ;D

Tua does need to start stepping up his opposition but I dont think he's ready for Peter yet.

I think Sam Peter stops Tua Tua is at the end now

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I cant wait to see Sam Peter fight again. Im just keen to see how/if he's still developing with the sort of speed we witnesed between those two Toney fights... I mean we got the Ali shuffle... What next, the shoulder roll?! ;D

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If Sam Peter ever gets to the point where he is using Shoulder Rolls...Coming in with head movement,,feints,,always working off his jab....All I can say is....The whole Heavyweight Division is in for an ass whipping...

He improved so much from the 1st Toney fight to the second...If he can imrove that much between his fights I give him till he is 28 and he would own that division hands down....

And he has a good chin to boot...IMO though it was unfair what the WBC has done to him I think he should move on he is capable of beating both briggs and Valuev.....Hell a world title is a world title.....get one then start with unfication

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I cant wait to see Sam Peter fight again. Im just keen to see how/if he's still developing with the sort of speed we witnesed between those two Toney fights... I mean we got the Ali shuffle... What next, the shoulder roll?! ;D

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If Sam Peter ever gets to the point where he is using Shoulder Rolls...Coming in with head movement,,feints,,always working off his jab....All I can say is....The whole Heavyweight Division is in for an a** whipping...

He improved so much from the 1st Toney fight to the second...If he can imrove that much between his fights I give him till he is 28 and he would own that division hands down....

And he has a good chin to boot...IMO though it was unfair what the WBC has done to him I think he should move on he is capable of beating both briggs and Valuev.....Hell a world title is a world title.....get one then start with unfication

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He's ranked No.2 by WBO. He should cut his losses and start with them. He's definately still the future of the heavy's (provided he stays at the lighter end of the division)

Forget Peter vs Tua lets have Peter Vs Wlad 2 and watch Peter destroy him this time Peter learned alot from that fight and has gone on to learn more when he's done with Wlad he can then destroy his big brother and have us rid of them

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I cant wait to see Sam Peter fight again. Im just keen to see how/if he's still developing with the sort of speed we witnesed between those two Toney fights... I mean we got the Ali shuffle... What next, the shoulder roll?! ;D

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If Sam Peter ever gets to the point where he is using Shoulder Rolls...Coming in with head movement,,feints,,always working off his jab....All I can say is....The whole Heavyweight Division is in for an a** whipping...

He improved so much from the 1st Toney fight to the second...If he can imrove that much between his fights I give him till he is 28 and he would own that division hands down....

And he has a good chin to boot...IMO though it was unfair what the WBC has done to him I think he should move on he is capable of beating both briggs and Valuev.....Hell a world title is a world title.....get one then start with unfication

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He's ranked No.2 by WBO. He should cut his losses and start with them. He's definately still the future of the heavy's (provided he stays at the lighter end of the division)

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Why at the lighter end?...Peter has enough mass on him to bang with anyone and not worried about being dominated due to size difference.....Are there guys taller? Yes......But his physical mass is more than enough....6'2" and 245-250 is a big guy

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Forget Peter vs Tua lets have Peter Vs Wlad 2 and watch Peter destroy him this time Peter learned alot from that fight and has gone on to learn more when he's done with Wlad he can then destroy his big brother and have us rid of them

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WHOS POST WAS IT ANYWAY ?
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I cant wait to see Sam Peter fight again. Im just keen to see how/if he's still developing with the sort of speed we witnesed between those two Toney fights... I mean we got the Ali shuffle... What next, the shoulder roll?! ;D

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If Sam Peter ever gets to the point where he is using Shoulder Rolls...Coming in with head movement,,feints,,always working off his jab....All I can say is....The whole Heavyweight Division is in for an a** whipping...

He improved so much from the 1st Toney fight to the second...If he can imrove that much between his fights I give him till he is 28 and he would own that division hands down....

And he has a good chin to boot...IMO though it was unfair what the WBC has done to him I think he should move on he is capable of beating both briggs and Valuev.....Hell a world title is a world title.....get one then start with unfication

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He's ranked No.2 by WBO. He should cut his losses and start with them. He's definately still the future of the heavy's (provided he stays at the lighter end of the division)

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Why at the lighter end?...Peter has enough mass on him to bang with anyone and not worried about being dominated due to size difference.....Are there guys taller? Yes......But his physical mass is more than enough....6'2" and 245-250 is a big guy

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Nah i mean provided he doesn't hit 30 and loose to the battle of the flab. He has that sort of frame where he should pay a fair bit of attention to conditioning.

Current version Peter Beats current Tua, If Tua gets into shape and has the desire he KO's Peter...Peter is slow and heavy handed and so is Tua(only not as slow)...Ibeabuchi gave Tua trouble because Ibeabuschi was a complete fighter and Peter is still a long way from that...Peter can be hurt Wlad hurt him badly in their last round and Toney stopped...remember Tua had Ike nearly out in their last round and Tua would dictate the pace wearing Peter out...Tua by 8 round KO.

At this point Peter is too good for Tua...Tua needs to keep busy and work on his fitness. Maybe he will be able to step up, but it will take a couple more tune ups to see where he is at...

Hasim Rahman stood Tua on his head second time around bar some extrordinary judging.

Peter is a better fighter than Rahman .

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Hasim Rahman stood Tua on his head second time around bar some extrordinary judging.

Peter is a better fighter than Rahman .

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Both came in as Fat slobs and as far as the scoring goes Rahman did absolutely nothing from from the 5th round on except clinch, watch the fight again...Rahman should have had pts deducted at least if not DQ'd again watch the fight...Obviously If this version of TUA shows up gainst Peter he obviously does not win...

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I was just thinking how this blend of styles will make a top matchup. Tua is a solid powerful pro with great chin.
Peters come forward style , i think maybe Sam wud try to use boxing skills and jab rather than meet Tua head on
but it wud be a good fight maybe like Ibeabuchi v Tua
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If Tua stays fat- he gets his first KO loss.

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Forget Peter vs Tua lets have Peter Vs Wlad 2 and watch Peter destroy him this time Peter learned alot from that fight and has gone on to learn more when he's done with Wlad he can then destroy his big brother and have us rid of them

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LOL KO!!!!

In the Rahman vs Tua rematch Rahman shook Tua up badly at the end so i believe Peter at this point in Tua's career would stop him

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Hasim Rahman stood Tua on his head second time around bar some extrordinary judging.

Peter is a better fighter than Rahman .

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Both came in as Fat slobs and as far as the scoring goes Rahman did absolutely nothing from from the 5th round on except clinch, watch the fight again...Rahman should have had pts deducted at least if not DQ'd again watch the fight...Obviously If this version of TUA shows up gainst Peter he obviously does not win...

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Granted ! But Tua did even less !!

Tua is wasted talent and theres nothing Sadder !! In that fight he was even easier to hit than usual .

Tua has promised much but delivered little hes been given ample oppurtunity.

At this stage of his career i cant see him suddenly turning it all around laying off the cheseburgers and becoming a born again fighter .

Tua was good if you stood toe to toe but if you moved on him he just didnt have a clue .

In the right fight he could look a million dollars and whilst Peter aint a fleet footed stylist he has enough moves to stop Tua late .

Tua is lazy .

Tua will not win a fight with Sam Peter.

Sam Peter will not win a rematch against Wlad.

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Tua will not win a fight with Sam Peter.

Sam Peter will not win a rematch against Wlad.

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Tua was a force to be reckoned with prior to his "comeback" and I would have bet on him against many quality fighters. Tua was the man. And then he stopped being the man very suddenly. Poor conditioning, lackluster drive, and failure to get in close when it mattered. He will lose a UD to Sam Peter 10 out of 10 times in this year of our Lord, 2007.

And why won't he beat wlad

As for Wlad/Peter,

All i hear is how much Peter improved from Toney I to Toney II, but you all forget who's been steadily improving at the same time. Wlad. Wlad has grown in confidence and mental fortitude with every single fight since Corey Sanders. He beat Sam once, and even had to go down three times in the process. These made him a better fighter and helped him to overcome his fear of getting hit and getting dropped.

I see no one challenging Wlad in any significant fashion given the current crop of heavyweights. Surely not Brewster, and Sam will not be as intimidating a second time around. Especially since Wlad knows he can be hurt now, though he learned it late last fight. That was a bitch of a left hook he buzzed Peter with.


Oddly, i give the most chance to Valuev. Not because I think he can outfight Wlad, but because he's so damn big. If he leaned on Wlad all night and sapped his juice (his one suspect area IMO), i could actually see him wearing down Wlad and then who knows?

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Hasim Rahman stood Tua on his head second time around bar some extrordinary judging.

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Both came in as Fat slobs and as far as the scoring goes Rahman did absolutely nothing from from the 5th round on except clinch, watch the fight again...Rahman should have had pts deducted at least if not DQ'd again watch the fight...Obviously If this version of TUA shows up gainst Peter he obviously does not win...

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Granted ! But Tua did even less !!

Tua is wasted talent and theres nothing Sadder !! In that fight he was even easier to hit than usual .

Tua has promised much but delivered little hes been given ample oppurtunity.

At this stage of his career i cant see him suddenly turning it all around laying off the cheseburgers and becoming a born again fighter .

Tua was good if you stood toe to toe but if you moved on him he just didnt have a clue .

In the right fight he could look a million dollars and whilst Peter aint a fleet footed stylist he has enough moves to stop Tua late .

Tua is lazy .

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Toney was able to freeze Peter several times in their fight and if he were to freeze like that against David Tua its over...Tua would crowd Peter and Sam is not a good enough boxer to Keep Tua at range...Tua is a much better boxer than Peter and when in shape and would easily win a decision if it goes to the cards...

Remember until Peter fought Wlad he fought absolutely NO ONE of any note...aside from a well-shot Jeremey Williams its tough to identify anyone on his resume...now looks at Tua's resume Ruiz, Izon, Maskaev, Oquendo, Moorer, Nicholson, etc.. It's not even a comparison.

Now I will go further...Peter's power is OVERRATED, that's right...Toney went toe-to-toe in two fights and one questionable knockdown, Toney always knew that Peter's power was overrated that's why he singled him out...Peter's power became legend when he caught Jeremey Williams with a dramatic punch so Sam Peter has joined the elite group of heavy hiters Brian Nielsen, Maurice Harris and Henry Akinwande that KO'd Jeremey prior to Peter...Hell Williams is the only recognizable name that Sam Peter ever KO'd...Oh I forgot the legendary Julius Long, LMAO...

Regarding the Tua/Rahman 2 that you keep referring to, go to YOUTUBE.COM and watch the Sumo match err fight again...Tua was the only one even trying to fight from 5 on but having the equally fat Rahman trying to make love to him made it impossible and also near impossible to watch...I think the ref was aroused by having two sweaty, grossly obese, nearly naked men embracing, otherwise he would have certainly deducted some points from Rahman...

Tua has left it to late, to inactive! He needs to fight Cameron so Shane can assume his place as NZ's best current heavyweight!

Sam Peter v David Tua would be a damn good fight.They both can take alot of punishment, Tua can take more so Peter don't need to have a slug fest with Tua like he did with the weaker James Toney but he will and Tua will drop Peter. Peter don't cover up that well, he relies on his ability to take a hit and Tua is a good head hunter with alot of power.Tua wins by ko rd 6. ;)

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Sam Peter v David Tua would be a damn good fight.They both can take alot of punishment, Tua can take more so Peter don't need to have a slug fest with Tua like he did with the weaker James Toney but he will and Tua will drop Peter. Peter don't cover up that well, he relies on his ability to take a hit and Tua is a good head hunter with alot of power.Tua wins by ko rd 6. ;)

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Maybe the Tua of about 5 or 6 years ago! Tua nowadays is terrible! Once Tua steps in there again with a top ten guy he'll be exposed. The guy let to much time go to waste.

No matter how terrible I'm sure he can still take a hit and he will hit back just as hard if not harder so imo Sam goes down in a slug fest.I hope we will get a chance to see. ;)

I'm sure Tua can still take a shot, & his power is still a factor. The problem is he doesn't know how to fight... maybe he never did, but it is really evident now that he's slowed. If Tua goes up against a slugger like Peter sure he still has a punchers chance but because of his reflexes I don't see Tua taking the openings when they are there. Tua's chin could get him into trouble IMO!!!

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I'm sure Tua can still take a shot, & his power is still a factor. The problem is he doesn't know how to fight... maybe he never did, but it is really evident now that he's slowed. If Tua goes up against a slugger like Peter sure he still has a punchers chance but because of his reflexes I don't see Tua taking the openings when they are there. Tua's chin could get him into trouble IMO!!!

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Into trouble with a guy who couldn't take out a middleweight?!?!?...remember LL hit Tua with everything and Tua never even budged, Sam Peter has never stopped anyone any good and Tua certainly wouldn't be his first...Why do posters believe that Sam Peter is such a heavy hitter???...you guys have been listening to the HBO announcers a little too much remember Sam is under a fat contract from HBO, but I'm sure HBO would never pump up one of their fighters ;)

Tua is a MUCH better boxer than Sam that's just a fact and for an IN SHAPE Tua the decision would be relatively easy...Sam ain't no Ike!

The only question is whether or not Tua would get into shape but if he does it's a wipe out...

Tua bottled the fight with Lennox Lewis !

He came into the fight full of bluster red hot many people believing he'd win felt Lennox's power and stood off !!

He fought scared the entire fight and really let Lennox dominate him in 1st gear !

I remember one commentator calling it a silent pact , Tua let Lewis dominate without letting him knock him out .

Lewis didnt put full weight behind his right because if he missed he knew he'd be giving tua the only oppurtunity to win ie the counter left hook .

Rahman did exactly what you needed to do to Lewis , take him out of his comfort zone make him rush , to do this you need to take a few but Hasim was willing to make that sacrafice and he won the fight .

Tua liked you to stand and trade , bully boy .

Great natural assets though .

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Tua bottled the fight with Lennox Lewis !

He came into the fight full of bluster red hot many people believing he'd win felt Lennox's power and stood off !!

He fought scared the entire fight and really let Lennox dominate him in 1st gear !

I remember one commentator calling it a silent pact , Tua let Lewis dominate without letting him knock him out .

Lewis didnt put full weight behind his right because if he missed he knew he'd be giving tua the only oppurtunity to win ie the counter left hook .

Rahman did exactly what you needed to do to Lewis , take him out of his comfort zone make him rush , to do this you need to take a few but Hasim was willing to make that sacrafice and he won the fight .

Tua liked you to stand and trade , bully boy .

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Yes Tua "bottled" against LL, rounds 1-3 were dictated by Tua and according to one judge won by David...Then David went into a shell, some say it was a rib injury but who knows...As far as a "silent pact" doesn't apply here that implies "I won't hityou if you don't hitt me" and is usually dipicted by a "hug-fest" but LL was putting the leather to David never decreasing his punch output...I agree that Lennox didn't go for the kill but that's because he didn't need to, it always been LL's style to play it safe...Lennox did hit Tua pretty GD hard though and Tua never moved...LL was always wary of Tua so he did what he had to without putting himself in too much danger..LL is an ATG and while Tua's loss was lopsided it was still to an ATG...Peter being stopped in his tracks by James Toney cannot even compare....

In Rahman-Lewis 1 it was more of a case of Rahman fighting an ill prepared Lewis than anything else and the 2nd fight is evidence of that...

Regarding Tua-Peter, Sam Peter has NONE of the attributes that give Tua problems ie. Height, Movement or a great jab...This fight would be fought right in Davids "wheelhouse" and Sam Peter would never be the same afterward...a brutal KO win for David "The Terminator" Tua....never liked the "Tuaman" thing.

Sam Peter is good but he isnt 70% wot Ike Ibeabuchi was for my money

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Tua bottled the fight with Lennox Lewis !

He came into the fight full of bluster red hot many people believing he'd win felt Lennox's power and stood off !!

He fought scared the entire fight and really let Lennox dominate him in 1st gear !

I remember one commentator calling it a silent pact , Tua let Lewis dominate without letting him knock him out .

Lewis didnt put full weight behind his right because if he missed he knew he'd be giving tua the only oppurtunity to win ie the counter left hook .

Rahman did exactly what you needed to do to Lewis , take him out of his comfort zone make him rush , to do this you need to take a few but Hasim was willing to make that sacrafice and he won the fight .

Tua liked you to stand and trade , bully boy .

Great natural assets though .

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Yes Tua "bottled" against LL, rounds 1-3 were dictated by Tua and according to one judge won by David...Then David went into a shell, some say it was a rib injury but who knows...As far as a "silent pact" doesn't apply here that implies "I won't hityou if you don't hitt me" and is usually dipicted by a "hug-fest" but LL was putting the leather to David never decreasing his punch output...I agree that Lennox didn't go for the kill but that's because he didn't need to, it always been LL's style to play it safe...Lennox did hit Tua pretty GD hard though and Tua never moved...LL was always wary of Tua so he did what he had to without putting himself in too much danger..LL is an ATG and while Tua's loss was lopsided it was still to an ATG...Peter being stopped in his tracks by James Toney cannot even compare....

In Rahman-Lewis 1 it was more of a case of Rahman fighting an ill prepared Lewis than anything else and the 2nd fight is evidence of that...

Regarding Tua-Peter, Sam Peter has NONE of the attributes that give Tua problems ie. Height, Movement or a great jab...This fight would be fought right in Davids "wheelhouse" and Sam Peter would never be the same afterward...a brutal KO win for David "The Terminator" Tua....never liked the "Tuaman" thing.

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Said like a true Gent .

I have visions of Tua shipping like he did in the rematch with Rahman .

In his prime i'd take Tua allday long over Peter but Tuas too long in the tooth and has to many bad habbits to suddenly turn it round .

I think any decent heavy that gets their tactics right beats Tua , he was a dangerous come from behind fighter , Rahman and Maskaev he was well behind on the cards untill he pulled it out for which he deserves credit .

The point remains though he was and is a lazy fighter entertaining yes, rock hard chin yes, punch power yes !

But that was over 6 years ago since then he has done nothing his skills will have eroded .

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I'm sure Tua can still take a shot, & his power is still a factor. The problem is he doesn't know how to fight... maybe he never did, but it is really evident now that he's slowed. If Tua goes up against a slugger like Peter sure he still has a punchers chance but because of his reflexes I don't see Tua taking the openings when they are there. Tua's chin could get him into trouble IMO!!!

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Into trouble with a guy who couldn't take out a middleweight?!?!?...remember LL hit Tua with everything and Tua never even budged, Sam Peter has never stopped anyone any good and Tua certainly wouldn't be his first...Why do posters believe that Sam Peter is such a heavy hitter???...you guys have been listening to the HBO announcers a little too much remember Sam is under a fat contract from HBO, but I'm sure HBO would never pump up one of their fighters ;)

Tua is a MUCH better boxer than Sam that's just a fact and for an IN SHAPE Tua the decision would be relatively easy...Sam ain't no Ike!

The only question is whether or not Tua would get into shape but if he does it's a wipe out...

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It ain't a fact Tua is a better boxer than Peter, you need to go back & watch Tua's last 5 fights... he ain't the same guy who fought Ike, not even the same guy who fought Lewis.

Heres something for ya, Tua is making about 20-30 thousand to fight in the these tune ups in the States, Shane Cameron who fought last night & scored a chilling one punch KO of Bob Mirivic has offered Tua a quarter of a million to fight. But guess what Tua's running scared... from a guy with only 18 fights. I'm sorry to say but Tua is finished.

By the way Cameron won last night after breaking his right hand in the 1st rd, very impressive display of heart!!! Cameron is NZ's best current heavyweight!

Come on Tua hand the touch over!

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I'm sure Tua can still take a shot, & his power is still a factor. The problem is he doesn't know how to fight... maybe he never did, but it is really evident now that he's slowed. If Tua goes up against a slugger like Peter sure he still has a punchers chance but because of his reflexes I don't see Tua taking the openings when they are there. Tua's chin could get him into trouble IMO!!!

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Into trouble with a guy who couldn't take out a middleweight?!?!?...remember LL hit Tua with everything and Tua never even budged, Sam Peter has never stopped anyone any good and Tua certainly wouldn't be his first...Why do posters believe that Sam Peter is such a heavy hitter???...you guys have been listening to the HBO announcers a little too much remember Sam is under a fat contract from HBO, but I'm sure HBO would never pump up one of their fighters ;)

Tua is a MUCH better boxer than Sam that's just a fact and for an IN SHAPE Tua the decision would be relatively easy...Sam ain't no Ike!

The only question is whether or not Tua would get into shape but if he does it's a wipe out...

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It ain't a fact Tua is a better boxer than Peter, you need to go back & watch Tua's last 5 fights... he ain't the same guy who fought Ike, not even the same guy who fought Lewis.

Heres something for ya, Tua is making about 20-30 thousand to fight in the these tune ups in the States, Shane Cameron who fought last night & scored a chilling one punch KO of Bob Mirivic has offered Tua a quarter of a million to fight. But guess what Tua's running scared... from a guy with only 18 fights. I'm sorry to say but Tua is finished.

By the way Cameron won last night after breaking his right hand in the 1st rd, very impressive display of heart!!! Cameron is NZ's best current heavyweight!

Come on Tua hand the touch over!

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Running scared because he won't fight Cameron or is it being smart? Tua is calling out all of the top 10 fighters and no one wants any fighting Shane does nothing for him and at 34 he has got to take fights that make sense...remember the goal is a title belt and all of the $$$ that goes with it, if Shane can earn a top 10 ranking then David will fight him...Let Cameron earn his bones by fighting up the ranks like Tua did, so far Shane has nothing in his record that would indicate he's earned it...If you look at the big picture the only one that has anything to gain by a Tua -Cameron fight is Cameron it won't elevate David in the rankings or get him the title shot he's looking for...again let Shane fight his way up like David did.

Tua's last five fights were against fighters with a combined 85-25 record. Shane Cameron's last five fights were against guys with a combined 72-38 records...Even the quality of the fighters a Fat Tua is fighting is better than what the great Shane Cameron is fighting...like I said let Cameron earn his shot.

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I'm sure Tua can still take a shot, & his power is still a factor. The problem is he doesn't know how to fight... maybe he never did, but it is really evident now that he's slowed. If Tua goes up against a slugger like Peter sure he still has a punchers chance but because of his reflexes I don't see Tua taking the openings when they are there. Tua's chin could get him into trouble IMO!!!

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Into trouble with a guy who couldn't take out a middleweight?!?!?...remember LL hit Tua with everything and Tua never even budged, Sam Peter has never stopped anyone any good and Tua certainly wouldn't be his first...Why do posters believe that Sam Peter is such a heavy hitter???...you guys have been listening to the HBO announcers a little too much remember Sam is under a fat contract from HBO, but I'm sure HBO would never pump up one of their fighters ;)

Tua is a MUCH better boxer than Sam that's just a fact and for an IN SHAPE Tua the decision would be relatively easy...Sam ain't no Ike!

The only question is whether or not Tua would get into shape but if he does it's a wipe out...

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It ain't a fact Tua is a better boxer than Peter, you need to go back & watch Tua's last 5 fights... he ain't the same guy who fought Ike, not even the same guy who fought Lewis.

Heres something for ya, Tua is making about 20-30 thousand to fight in the these tune ups in the States, Shane Cameron who fought last night & scored a chilling one punch KO of Bob Mirivic has offered Tua a quarter of a million to fight. But guess what Tua's running scared... from a guy with only 18 fights. I'm sorry to say but Tua is finished.

By the way Cameron won last night after breaking his right hand in the 1st rd, very impressive display of heart!!! Cameron is NZ's best current heavyweight!

Come on Tua hand the touch over!

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Running scared because he won't fight Cameron or is it being smart? Tua is calling out all of the top 10 fighters and no one wants any fighting Shane does nothing for him and at 34 he has got to take fights that make sense...remember the goal is a title belt and all of the $$$ that goes with it, if Shane can earn a top 10 ranking then David will fight him...Let Cameron earn his bones by fighting up the ranks like Tua did, so far Shane has nothing in his record that would indicate he's earned it...If you look at the big picture the only one that has anything to gain by a Tua -Cameron fight is Cameron it won't elevate David in the rankings or get him the title shot he's looking for...again let Shane fight his way up like David did.

Tua's last five fights were against fighters with a combined 85-25 record. Shane Cameron's last five fights were against guys with a combined 72-38 records...Even the quality of the fighters a Fat Tua is fighting is better than what the great Shane Cameron is fighting...like I said let Cameron earn his shot.

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Tua ain't calling out sh*t, after every fight it's I still need this many more fights before I'm ready! Take on Cameron earn some $$$'s, what's he got to lose? Look @ the records of their opponents Cameron his only had 18 fights! Tua's on the comeback trail... & in my opinion fighters should fight the best available compitetion. Cameron is considered the best current NZ heavyweight. Tua needs to fight Cameron if he wants to be taken seriously again!

Shane ain't great but he'll knock Tua the F**k out!!!

Fat Tuna - Dolphin friendly, high in protien and essential oils that help with reading and mechanics that sort of thing

Personally i love Red Salmon with a little vineger and black pepper on small bits of brown toast and a glass of Red wine .

I'd love to be a bear catching those Salmon as they swim up river to spawn .

Apperently the bears will only eat the Brains and the Eggs because they are the most nutritious in times a plenty .

Seems like bit of a waste although Caviar does appeal to me

I'd like to see a fight between a Grizzly bear and Lion , it'd be fkin carnage !!

Tigers although the same size as Lions would usually best a Lion because of their better reflexes ( ambush hunters )

Ever seen a Lion kill a Cub when taking over a pride ? Its called infantacide .

If i could be a cat for one day i'd have to be a Tiger so beautifull all those lovely patterns plus they love a good swim whereas Lions hate Water .

There are Marsh Lions though , they have adapted to flooded Marshland and use it to ambush Prey .

Strange old world.

I think young TUa destroys Peter, but right now its vice virsa. Tua hasn't foughten a real legitimate opponent in a long time, and hasn't done anything to make me think he can handle Peter right now.