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Last night’s clinic performance of Mundine against Sam S. shows how overrated Winky is.
Let overrated Winky fight Kessler, who easily beat Mundine in his own backyard and remember it was an ill prepared Kessler with one of his poorest performance ever as a pro boxer. Imagine what a well prepared Kessler would do to Winky.
Let us get the fight on!!!!
Fella you dont need someone to point out the flaw in your logic do you?
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Originally Posted by Main Partner
You're treating this like a game of top trumps... it might be a cliche but the saying 'styles make fights' is a very very true one...Quote:
Originally Posted by Main Partner
This game is more complicated than that...
Reading over this kid's posts... I dunno, I smell Royal but if so his grammar seems to have improved slightly... well done... I suppose... not that it matters! :P
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Originally Posted by Main Partner
How two fighters did against a common opponent is no indication of how they would do with each other. Plus the Sam Soliman winky fought was not the ruined version that the highly overrated Mundine sparked last night. If you ask me, Kessler is hella overrated, and Winky would take him to school for a UD.
Why would a Winky way beyond his limit of middleweight go on to beat Kessler? And did Winky really ruin Soliman? :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by Brockton Bomber
Otherwise, fair comments on saying how a common opponent is no gauge as to how they would themselves do against each other...
Winky would shit all over Mundine.
Why wouldnt he just go to the bathroom? ::**Quote:
Originally Posted by petenice
i don't get how natural SMW beating sum1 better than a natural SWW proves jack ::**
Why wouldnt he just go to the bathroom?
Winky doesn't wanna waste the toilet water!
Im glad you know Winky's toiletry habits so intrinsically ;D ::**Quote:
Originally Posted by petenice
Supermiddleweight the place to be !
But Winky should watch the bathroom etiquette!! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by Swashbuckling Gordy
Winky's next fight is at 170 or 175 against B Hop so a comparison is totally fair enough in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Preme
Mundine is a very underratted fighter. Winky hasn't scored a knockout since forever. I'd imagine that over the past 5 years Sergio Mora, Cory Spinks and Paulie Maliggnaggi have all put away more fighters than Winky :-X
And I agree with the original poster, that Kessler batters Winky.
Would'nt he get disqualified for that ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by petenice
Wright fights in a totally different style to Mundine, if you saw the fight Mundine was much more aggressive than usual. I don't think Soliman recovered from the 1st knockdown & from there it was just a matter of time. I think Wright would out slick Mundine though.
It would be a great matchup in my opinion. I've always taken the line that Winky is overratted. Not disputing that he's a brilliant top level p4p fighter, he is, but he seems to have an almost God like status with most fans who just won't acknowledge any weakness.Quote:
Originally Posted by galaxy76
He's got no punch on him. I don't care wehter it's becuase of his style or the fact that he prefers to outbox people it's still a fact that at 160 he's never stopped anybody. He was 1 knockout in the last 7 years!
And that to a guy who has since been knocked out 3 times and retired once.
He's also getting hit a whole lot more often now. He's not the unbeatable master boxer some make him out to be.
I'd fancy Mundine to pull an upset, although I wouldnt at all be suprised if Winky got a UD after all he is a p4p fighter. I reckon there are a good few fighters at 168 though who would have more than a fair chance against him. Kessler and Calzaghe I'd have as clear favourites.
I agree also Mundine lost to Soliman in the first fight, and Kessler didn't totally dominate Mundine who's speed gave Kessler understandably some troubles. Hell if Mundine would have opened up more I could have seen him winning that fight, but he was too cautious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brockton Bomber
side note Mundine is also way better than he was when he fought Kessler, and he is easily the best athlete at 168.
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Originally Posted by bilbo
That has to be intentional
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Once in the morning and then at nightQuote:
Originally Posted by bilbo
Sometimes after training in the showers
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"I agree also Mundine lost to Soliman in the first fight, and Kessler didn't totally dominate Mundine who's speed gave Kessler understandably some troubles. Hell if Mundine would have opened up more I could have seen him winning that fight, but he was too cautious."
Soliman thinks he wins every fight. Someone needs to remind him that only punches that actually land are counted, not everything one throws. I'm suprised you aren't saying Soliman one last night too :)
I agree that Mundine could have won against Kessler. I think the cautiousness (is that a word?) is not there as much now which has helped Mundine improve a lot.
Well Holy Snikes!!! Were you been bro??? Good to have you back thought we lost ya my friend :coolclick: #99 and welcome back ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by galaxy76
Jeah winky is getting hit more, but I think that's cause he chooses to, as stupid as that sounds, but he's being more agressive. Jeah he's got no pop, but shit imagine if he had pop to go along with his skills!!! Also winky fought most of his career at 154 so to say a 168er would batter him, shit he might as well there is a 14 pound difference there. Although I still think winky would pull out the win, not just on mundine but he'd have shots against kessler and perhaps even joe c. Jeah his next fight is at 170, that don't mean that that's where he should be at, I think he shoulda stuck around at 160.
mundine would crush winky wright.
Yep. And i doubt Winky, Taylor & co. will be lining up to face Mundine now.
I hope we see him fight either Taylor or Wright by years end. I think Kessler might be too big for him...though i wouldn't put it past choc.
After mundine fought kessler i thought his career was on a downer but since then he has looked focussed and almost obsessed and has put away two top quality opponents in soliman and green and made them both look second rate. I think he may be on the cusp of something special. He has ridiculous speed for his weight division and a great technique, a serious competitior for anyone now.
Agreed Preme a bit, but Winky is not a natural 154 lber, he was damn near as big as Taylor in there. Ouma is a natural SWW, Winky is a natural middleweight and 168 isn't a stretch imo.
I think Winky beats Kessler. Forward moving fighter with a great jab and a great defense, and counters out of the cage type defense better then anyone in boxing history imo. He never gets hit with a punch cleanly. He gets hit, but the notion that Winky is unhittable only came about after the Tito fight. It's never been that he's unhittable, it's that you just can't hit him cleanly.
And Kessler drops his hands after all of his punches and moves straight backwards when he backs up, just asking to be countered. Plus Winky has gotten hit so much recently because he has been facing an abundance of straight punchers. And straight punchers who can fire between the post have the most success against him. And then Soliman is just awkward as fuck but he still got dominated.
Winky beats Kessler imo. Joe C I'm not so sure and B-Hop I'm not so sure. But Kessler I would be comfortable in picking Winky. Especially in the underdog role.
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Originally Posted by Main Partner
Are you sure your not getting Winky Wright confused with Wink Martindale the game show host???