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So with a week to go...who wins Barrera or Marquez?
Finally, the Mrs has relented and I have my Skylife box and so after a horrifying break from live boxing of around 6 MONTHS I finally can watch my live boxing!!! :D This is a fight I could not afford to pass me by!
Im a big Barrera fan but can easily see how this could be touted as a pick 'em. Marquez does seem to be evolving his style and seems to come forward more. Barrera has boxed within himself in 2 (IMO) concise victories over Juarez. It all for me depends on how and what each of these two talented fighters is going to bring to the table come fight time. Who gets the strategy right on the night? Get it wrong and it will be costly. Questions have been asked about Barrera's tank. I like to think he has a couple of big fights left in him, this being one of them. Of course, I could be wrong. Marquez is the same age as Barrera but of course hasn been in as many warsas MAB...
Im picking Barrera for a decision victory. How close I couldnt dare to say....
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agreed barrera by decision
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agreed barrera by decision
Agreed , I think Barrera wins too
Could be a close call on the cards though if its a tactical affair . I think Barreras got alot more left in the tank than people give him credit for . Its a Mexican rival in the opposite corner and its a fight that will make his legacy. The Juarez rematch he wanted to box to make a point , here , he is ready for a war and the intensity will be back . His focus which was lacking in the Juarez 1 and the Pac fight will definatley show in this fight . He hasnt had his training interupted . He hasnt had to come down in weight after preparing for another opponent . This time Barrera has been training for Marquez and has done everything right so expect the best from him , yet again proving all the people that doubt him , wrong .
Marquez has it all to prove . He has been trying to be more assertive recently and he intends to bring the fight to Barrera which will play right into Marcos hands. We know Marco has been training for speed and his quicker hands could be what seperates them. In a battle of the jabs Marco is a converted southpaw so he'll have more power and snap in his left hands . Up close on the inside I see Marco getting the upperhand there too as his body punching and combinations are superior. Marquez to win has to establish his rythm and be quick out the blocks. On paper theres nothing to suggest that Marquez can beat a name like Barrera . He has never won a superfight in his life but Mraco has been winning them for years. However if the right Marquez turns up he is good enough to make it a tough hard fight . I just dont think he has Barreras warrior spirit or fire and if he did, we would have seen it by now .
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just thought game do you think barrera will start first round very aggressive and try catch marquez cold like pac did ??
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Marquez to stop him ive gone for although i want Barrera to win just think he might be coming to the end
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Marquez to stop him ive gone for although i want Barrera to win just think he might be coming to the end
You think Marquez will stop Barrera?! Im surprised anyone would say that.
Anyway :coolclick:'s to all who have posted so far!
More votes please folks!
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Marquez to stop him ive gone for although i want Barrera to win just think he might be coming to the end
You think Marquez will stop Barrera?! Im surprised anyone would say that.
Anyway :coolclick:'s to all who have posted so far!
More votes please folks!
And I will click you when Karma allows, Ice Cold ;)
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I could be wrong Barrera could still have loads left in his tank and do a job on him to send a message to Pac CC back miles
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Marquez to stop him ive gone for although i want Barrera to win just think he might be coming to the end
You think Marquez will stop Barrera?! Im surprised anyone would say that.
Anyway :coolclick:'s to all who have posted so far!
More votes please folks!
And I will click you when Karma allows, Ice Cold ;)
ditto
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just thought game do you think barrera will start first round very aggressive and try catch marquez cold like pac did ??
I dont think Barrera will adopt s**t or bust tactics but I do think he will come out fast in his old crouched Mexican style and start assertively. Ive seen his training videos and his posture so he's definatley guna have a positive attitude.
Just look at his 3rd fight with Morales. After the Ayala fight and years of being a casual boxer , nobody believed he was guna start the 1st round of the decider like that ( agressively ) He took the fight to Morales from the start as he needed to make a statement in a what looked like being a 12 round battle . Its exactly the same set up here. Marquez is likely to be there for the full 12 . Barrera knows he is stronger and knows he needs to knock him off his gameplan just like he did with Erik. When he faces a boxer and especially a Mexican rival Barrera puts more emphasis on his combos and uses his advantages in speed. Forget what Marquez' plans are going into the fight as from the 1st round he will be reacting to what Barrera does . I dont belive that Barrera at this age will be able to keep these tactics up for the whole 12 rounds but he doesnt intend to , after 3 rounds I reckon he will change what he does to keep Marquez guessing all night . He will box fight Marquez and up the pace accordingly . Juan will be stuck between styles and may have some facial damage after the quick start by Marco . IMO Marquez although extemely competative will always be slightly trailing in the fight and never establish the driving seat just as Erik couldnt in their decider. Marquez I dont think has the ability to fight in the trenches like Morales did and it will suit Barrera who wont be pushed as hard and forced to breathe so heavily through exhaustion . Marquez though will be harder to hit so it will be more of a stand off than a war.Marquez has never liked getting hit and will think twice about rushing in once he feels the power and speed of Barrera .
I firmly believe Barrera will take control early on from the 1st round and never allow Marquez to take the initiative. It wont be a shut out or masterclass but inteligent boxing from Barrera as he negotiates the distance using his experience to his advantge . They say horses for courses and Barrera will adopt the right tactics to ensure victory here.I think it will be scores of around 115-113 , 116-113, 116-112.
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I could be wrong Barrera could still have loads left in his tank and do a job on him to send a message to Pac CC back miles
That is one of the fascinating aspects of this fight. You could be wrong, just as I could. Barrera has fought safe for 2 fights and that has people questioning his his remaining heart. Juarez was easy really, no need to overstretch...now if needed to stretch can MAB do it? I think so, a really impressive performance next weekend will make waves. But my prediction is no prophecy, we must wait and see and I cannot wait! ;D
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just thought game do you think barrera will start first round very aggressive and try catch marquez cold like pac did ??
I dont think Barrera will adopt s**t or bust tactics but I do think he will come out fast in his old crouched Mexican style and start assertively. Ive seen his training videos and his posture so he's definatley guna have a positive attitude.
Just look at his 3rd fight with Morales. After the Ayala fight and years of being a casual boxer , nobody believed he was guna start the 1st round of the decider like that ( agressively ) He took the fight to Morales from the start as he needed to make a statement in a what looked like being a 12 round battle . Its exactly the same set up here. Marquez is likely to be there for the full 12 . Barrera knows he is stronger and knows he needs to knock him off his gameplan just like he did with Erik. When he faces a boxer and especially a Mexican rival Barrera puts more emphasis on his combos and uses his advantages in speed. Forget what Marquez' plans are going into the fight as from the 1st round he will be reacting to what Barrera does . I dont belive that Barrera at this age will be able to keep these tactics up for the whole 12 rounds but he doesnt intend to , after 3 rounds I reckon he will change what he does to keep Marquez guessing all night . He will box fight Marquez and up the pace accordingly . Juan will be stuck between styles and may have some facial damage after the quick start by Marco . IMO Marquez although extemely competative will always be slightly trailing in the fight and never establish the driving seat just as Erik couldnt in their decider. Marquez I dont think has the ability to fight in the trenches like Morales did and it will suit Barrera who wont be pushed as hard and forced to breathe so heavily through exhaustion . Marquez though will be harder to hit so it will be more of a stand off than a war.Marquez has never liked getting hit and will think twice about rushing in once he feels the power and speed of Barrera .
I firmly believe Barrera will take control early on from the 1st round and never allow Marquez to take the initiative. It wont be a shut out or masterclass but inteligent boxing from Barrera as he negotiates the distance using his experience to his advantge . They say horses for courses and Barrera will adopt the right tactics to ensure victory here.I think it will be scores of around 115-113 , 116-113, 116-112.
I hope you are correct in your thinking....but the unknown element makes this fight intriguing. Lets face it, we dont know how either is gonna show up....
I cannot wait!!!! :D
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Interesting,this fight has not been hyped anywhere near as much as I thought it would be. I fancy JMM. Although he has been more agressive in his last few fights.and shown his fast hands and awesome power in both hands,he can still fight going backwards. As can MAB! There are so many variables here and I could be here all days discussing them but I think MAB boxes,JMM catches him,MAB tastes the power,tries to go to war and loses. I believe Marqeuz has more in the tank than MAB,he's hardly been in any wars at all, and I just believe he has the tools to upset MAB.
And I totally diagee on some of your points brother GAME,JMM can go to the trenches as he has shown against the tough tough Pacquiao,in his last 2 fights too. It must be super interesting to see how these guys are preparing for each other because they will need to spar counter punchers,hard hitters,boxers.
This fight has the potential to be a fight of the year. People are talking about Winy and B Hop's technical skills,these 2 match them for skill but also have that bit of machsimo in them. I hope we see a blend of boxing and warring! Should be a cracker,JMM SD.
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It is weird coz i have hardly heard anything about this fight at all! this could pan out to be the best fight of 07 uet hardly anyone is talking about it!
there can only be one winner for me tho....
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And I totally diagee on some of your points brother GAME,JMM can go to the trenches as he has shown against the tough tough Pacquiao,in his last 2 fights too.
When has Marquez had to show his true grit in a war ? He boxed Pac , he didnt fight him . Morales was a much better fighter than Marquez . I agree Marquez is a smoother technical boxer but when it comes down to who is the better fighter I have no doubt its Morales . Erik fought on even terms with Barrera not wanting to take a step back . He came off worse cuz his defence was too open but he wasnt scared of getting hit . Marquez has never struck me as that type of character who fights with that level of passion and intensity. Ive never really seen the devil in him and I know he beat a couple of nobodies with assertive boxing recently but its a huge step up to do the same to Barrera.
It comes natural to Barrera to fight , same with Erik. With Marquez it has been forced upon him cuz he wants to be more marketable . I reckon Barrera will do what Pac couldnt and thats beat Marquez but it will be a close good fight .
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Im really pullin for Barrera because if he wins this fight, he will cement his legacy in boxing. I like how pissed Barrera gets when people dis him....lol he turns into a pitbull when you start talking shit about him. Marquez seems like hes got more left in him, but Barrera is going to pull it out, then hes going after Pacman ;) If only Marquez would start talking crap, this would be in the bag.
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This is such a tough fight to pick a winner for.
My initial instinct was to go with Marquez. I think he's fresher than Barrera and hasn't been in nearly as many wars. I thought Barrera looked old and worn out in the two Juarez fights.
But I can't feel that confident with picking Marquez because Barrera has proven me wrong way too many times over the years.
Normally I don't get caught up with intangibles, but part of me thinks that Marquez is simply a very good fighter, whereas Barrera is a very good fighter who can produce great performances when he needs them most.
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A hard fight to pick. Both are master boxers. Both have shown tremendous heart. Both are approaching the end of their careers. And obviously both are Mexican. This is going to be a great fight. Having watched Barrera for so long, i have learned never to underestimate him. He just can get it down however he needs to...box, brawl, or both. And despite his calm exterior, the man has a nasty edge when he needs it. Marquez is technically brilliant and showed against Manny that he he has a lot of spirit. But i just feel Marco has proven too many times that he can rise to the big occasions. I'm picking Barrera by decision.
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It is weird coz i have hardly heard anything about this fight at all! this could pan out to be the best fight of 07 uet hardly anyone is talking about it!
there can only be one winner for me tho....
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This is a fight that has been in the making for a looooooooooong long long time. I for one can't wait, this is the one fight that I would go see over Oscar vs Floyd. Should be a smoker.
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Sweetpea, I gotta disagree with you about Marco looking worn out against Juarez. I actually don't think Barrera has received enough credit for his performances against Juarez. Remember, before their first fight, Marco had been preparing to fight Chavez at 135. When Chavez got injured, Marco had to refocus and adjust to fighting a new opponent. People can say what they want about Juarez, but the man is a young and very strong fighter. Barrera gutted out that first fight and showed his tremendous heart against a young up and comer. In the second fight he showed what an intelligent fighter he was. He didn't look worn out at all. He jabbed and danced beautifully. He showed how he can adjust from one fight to another...whereas Juarez obviously didn't.
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Quien es macho? Marquez es Macho! Absolutamente!
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Marquez by desision. no doubt that this is the hardest fight for me to pick a clear winner in, but after thinking it over its not that hard to pick Marquez. Marquez is hungrier for this victory, he is the superior boxer, doesn't look as shot as Barerra has befor and definitely hasn't been in wars like Barerra has. i know that Barerra always performs excellent when he needs to but i don't think he can't nor will against Marquez.
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A real tough fight for me to pick!
But I gotta go with Marquez, but I think the decision will be razor thin.
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A real tough fight for me to pick!
But I gotta go with Marquez, but I think the decision will be razor thin.
cool click. totally agree. as much as I admire barrera i had a feeling when this fight was announced that marquez might pull out a surprise.
cant wait for the fight tho
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A real tough fight for me to pick!
But I gotta go with Marquez, but I think the decision will be razor thin.
cool click. totally agree. as much as I admire barrera i had a feeling when this fight was announced that marquez might pull out a surprise.
cant wait for the fight tho
cc back at ya ace, I'm hoping for fireworks!!!
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what sort of fight do you see come saturday? ive got a feeling barrera might try and play it smart. against marquez i dont think it will work and he will need to draw him into a brawl
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Although not an exact science, the way PAC walk all over Barrera and how PAC struggled with Marquez gives me the idea it's not going to be a good night for the Baby Face Assasin. Marquez by UD!!!
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I'ma go ahead and say marquez takes this one. I don't think it will have to do so much with barerra being shot as it will with marquez knowing that this perhaps is his last shot to prove that he is worthy of being listed with the likes of barerra, morales and pac. He didn't take the rematch with pac, instead took a shity payday to go fight john in indonesia and from what I've read got robbed, then had 2 solid fights, although against unknowns so this is make it or break it time for marquez. I also want him to win cause the fight I want to see most is a rematch between marquez and pac, and I don't think that's happening if jmm gets his ass whooped.
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So Marquez is the fans favourite at the moment!! Very interesting!! Keep those opinions coming in folks...
:coolclick:'s to all who have posted so far
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Marquez to stop him ive gone for although i want Barrera to win just think he might be coming to the end
No way he stops him. Barrera knows his career is winding down but his pride aint gonna let him lose this fight. It means a lot to him to prove he is the world's best and the best fighter from Mexico City. It will be a great fight but I say Barrera pulls it off and goes to avenge his loss against (a recently less focused) Manny Pacquiao. It will take that loss to motivate Pacman to train and focus more and return to win a trilogy over the aging M.A.B.
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This is going to be a great fight. It will not be the all out brawl that Morales- barrera fights were but it will have its moments. I think Marquez in one of the premier counter punchers in the game, and he and Barrera have the skills and the heart to make this the fight of the year, In the end I think Barrera wins, as I think he will wear down Marquez. This fight is very close, but I see it as a Majority decision for Marquez.
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I can not really see who will win this one. Both fighters are now past their prime. I say Marquez wins cause he has less mileage than Barrera.
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are you suggesting JMM likes a bit of male companionship?
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are you suggesting JMM likes a bit of male companionship?
And what if he does? It says nothing about how this fight will turn out really ;D
I see nothing in those pictures to disturb me really
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Question to the people picking Marquez . . .
Who has Marquez beaten or what has he done to suggest he can beat Barrera ?
May I also remind you of this ...
...Abit disturbing
are you suggesting JMM likes a bit of male companionship?
It really doesn't matter whom he fools around with as long as he fights like a man. ;D
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And I totally diagee on some of your points brother GAME,JMM can go to the trenches as he has shown against the tough tough Pacquiao,in his last 2 fights too.
When has Marquez had to show his true grit in a war ? He boxed Pac , he didnt fight him . Morales was a much better fighter than Marquez . I agree Marquez is a smoother technical boxer but when it comes down to who is the better fighter I have no doubt its Morales . Erik fought on even terms with Barrera not wanting to take a step back . He came off worse cuz his defence was too open but he wasnt scared of getting hit . Marquez has never struck me as that type of character who fights with that level of passion and intensity. Ive never really seen the devil in him and I know he beat a couple of nobodies with assertive boxing recently but its a huge step up to do the same to Barrera.
It comes natural to Barrera to fight , same with Erik. With Marquez it has been forced upon him cuz he wants to be more marketable . I reckon Barrera will do what Pac couldnt and thats beat Marquez but it will be a close good fight .
Is that Mikkel Kessler or Kevin Federline ???
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Whats the guy in the second picture grabbing ??? :o
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Whats the guy in the second picture grabbing ??? :o
A shoulder! :P ;D
Oh, and a piece of tackle! :-\
