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i could see the same thing hapein to mayweather that hapenned to jones
mayweather has been downgraded just like jones and pbf next fight remids me of jones fight with ruiz .............. first ruiz was a dangerous openet and to big and after jones beat him "o he sucked anyway" and now i could see ppl saying o de lahoya was old and past his prime but now he is the most dangerous guy floyd fought
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Re: i could see the same thing hapein to mayweather that hapenned to jones
Well it COULD end up that way but THAT line of thinking will only exist if Oscar doesn't come out and fight like Oscar De la Hoya.
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Re: i could see the same thing hapein to mayweather that hapenned to jones
I dunno, it will depend alot too do with how Oscar comes out and fights like Lyle said. People will say Oscar is quite out of his prime now, hasn't been really active since the Hopkins loss so it is understandable if or when people point them out, however Oscar going by his last match is by no means past it.
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Re: i could see the same thing hapein to mayweather that hapenned to jones
Oscar - Mayweather who cares its right up there with Hopkins - Wright in the who cares stakes .
Mayweather will just stay on his bike steal the fight with the jab and run like he always does ..... I'd love to see Oscar cut the ring down and get the left hook on but sadly i just think it'll be a track meet .
Mayweather sucks ass so comppletely if i had to watch a day of his interviews or fights i'd end up eating my own head .
Still can't believe Mayweather came to the ring in a Gladiator costume and then complained about his sore hands .
What a complete tit .
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Re: i could see the same thing hapein to mayweather that hapenned to jones
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mayweather has been downgraded just like jones and pbf next fight remids me of jones fight with ruiz .............. first ruiz was a dangerous openet and to big and after jones beat him "o he sucked anyway" and now i could see ppl saying o de lahoya was old and past his prime but now he is the most dangerous guy floyd fought
I don't think there were many who thought Ruiz was dangerous.
Sure DLH has been inactive since Hopkins but Oscar is still going to be one of Floyds toughest opponents.
If Floyd beats DLH (which he should do easily, although I hope DLH pulls it out) it will be the biggest victory of his career. People can say what they want about Oscar being past it, but to the average fans Floyd would have beaten boxings biggest star!
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Re: i could see the same thing hapein to mayweather that hapenned to jones
If he runs Oscar should just stand in the middle of the ring and bait Floyd into a battle much like Duran would do.
Honestly if you tell Floyd he has no balls and he won't fight and he'll run like a sissy a bunch of things happen. #1 The judges notice YOU as the guy who's going to take the fight to the other guy #2 Floyd will have to prove his manhood and come in and throw SOME punches.
Talk shit to Floyd because I doubt he can take it....spit on his family, call him a little bitch, say he has no balls....Floyd can dish out that stuff but Oscar is PROVEN and another thing, Las Vegas draws a lot of the hispanic fight fans and it's on Cinco De Mayo....the crowd will affect the judges!!!
Hey Ruiz was a heavyweight and he had heavyweight power...remember he knocked down Evander Holyfield! There was A threat but it wasn't a BIG threat
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i'm by no way a Mayweather fan but i take my hat off to him for taking this fight he is well out of his comfort zone and a big underdog in my eyes....
he has already shown he cant mix it with a natrual welter so god knows how he is gonna handle DLH as he is going to get hit harder than he has ever been hit in this fight and see him losing via KO.
DLH aint at his best but wont be chasing him around the ring like a windmill in a storm ala Baldomir.
BUT for me if Floyd wins this fight and i really dont think he will but if he does you wont hear one more negitave comment from me about him ;)
KO for DLH thats the bet i'll be having easy money ;)
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Re: i could see the same thing hapein to mayweather that hapenned to jones
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If he runs Oscar should just stand in the middle of the ring and bait Floyd into a battle much like Duran would do.
Honestly if you tell Floyd he has no balls and he won't fight and he'll run like a sissy a bunch of things happen. #1 The judges notice YOU as the guy who's going to take the fight to the other guy #2 Floyd will have to prove his manhood and come in and throw SOME punches.
Talk S*** to Floyd because I doubt he can take it....spit on his family, call him a little bitch, say he has no balls....Floyd can dish out that stuff but Oscar is PROVEN and another thing, Las Vegas draws a lot of the hispanic fight fans and it's on Cinco De Mayo....the crowd will affect the judges!!!
Hey Ruiz was a heavyweight and he had heavyweight power...remember he knocked down Evander Holyfield! There was A threat but it wasn't a BIG threat
i agree but y do ppl jusdge fighters based on there last fight ive seen mayweather in actual fights and i know every1 else had
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It's funny how everyone sees one fighter as way better than the other, either Oscar is far too strong or Floyd is far too fast, I actually think they are almost completely evenly matched, and neither has a wide advantage in any aspect. Oscar's handspeed is underrated, and although Floyd is faster, it's not by all that much. Likewise, people act as though Floyd is like Glass Joe from Mike Tyson's punchout and that the first hard shot he takes, it's lights out. This too is ridiculous. Oscar has the edge in power, but it's not by much. Floyd ain't Tommy Hearns, but his power and toughness is also underrated. I think this fight will be very close, and might even be extremely difficult to score.
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Roy took the fight to Ruiz though....he looked good he landed power shots that Ruiz FELT.
Floyd has not hurt anyone in a while and his flurries are less and less meaningful and he doesn't throw them like he used to either
Floyd hasn't tasted too much power skyler...and ODH has enough power to KO him
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lyle i agree bout jones i agree bout mayweather not really having power........... but since when does everyone assume delahoya is a power puncher? cuz he most def is not
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lyle i agree bout jones i agree bout mayweather not really having power........... but since when does everyone assume delahoya is a power puncher? cuz he most def is not
DLH's got that mean left hook though!
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lyle i agree bout jones i agree bout mayweather not really having power........... but since when does everyone assume delahoya is a power puncher? cuz he most def is not
DLH's got that mean left hook though!
That only seems to connect on fighters with limited defensive skills.
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i'm by no way a Mayweather fan but i take my hat off to him for taking this fight he is well out of his comfort zone and a big underdog in my eyes....
he has already shown he cant mix it with a natrual welter so god knows how he is gonna handle DLH as he is going to get hit harder than he has ever been hit in this fight and see him losing via KO.
DLH aint at his best but wont be chasing him around the ring like a windmill in a storm ala Baldomir.
BUT for me if Floyd wins this fight and i really dont think he will but if he does you wont hear one more negitave comment from me about him ;)
KO for DLH thats the bet i'll be having easy money ;)
Saddo about that drink you never got back to me .
Mayweather is just a punk he should have taken up Ice skating or become a ballerina he would have been good at that .
I hope he wins rounds 1-11 and then gets a Meldrick Taylor type ending sending his whole family into Meltdown.
De La hoya is too polite to do a Duran on him i wish he would though , Oscar aint got shit to prove whereas Mayweather has never ever convinced me that he is upto his own big words.
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De la Hoya has a good right hand too!
Oscar is the biggest power threat Floyd has ever fought, Oscar is also the most complete fighter Floyd has ever fought
With Roach in his corner Oscar will try to use his size to beat Floyd, tie him up, not let Floyd get off on the inside or run away too fast....lean on him try to take his legs away.
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lyle i agree bout jones i agree bout mayweather not really having power........... but since when does everyone assume delahoya is a power puncher? cuz he most def is not
W 38 (30 ko's) not bad ko record if you ask me mate ;)
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lyle i agree bout jones i agree bout mayweather not really having power........... but since when does everyone assume delahoya is a power puncher? cuz he most def is not
DLH's got that mean left hook though!
That only seems to connect on fighters with limited defensive skills.
exactly can anyone name one high class fighter with good defense de lahoya rocked
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lyle i agree bout jones i agree bout mayweather not really having power........... but since when does everyone assume delahoya is a power puncher? cuz he most def is not
W 38 (30 ko's) not bad ko record if you ask me mate ;)
right but that was mostly accuracy and speed combined with accumaltion of beating not exactly power when i say power i mean brute strenght
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Mayweather is just a punk he should have taken up Ice skating or become a ballerina he would have been good at that .
couldnt disagree more mate... hes a class fighter just sidesteped a few good champions on the way up and thats my main beef with him but credit where its due mate taking DLH is a brave move ;)
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lyle i agree bout jones i agree bout mayweather not really having power........... but since when does everyone assume delahoya is a power puncher? cuz he most def is not
W 38 (30 ko's) not bad ko record if you ask me mate ;)
right but that was mostly accuracy and speed combined with accumaltion of beating not exactly power when i say power i mean brute strenght
but mayweathers moving up in weight he has never been to before and he will feel oscars power it may not be thomas hearns kinda power but its good respectful power and it will be interesting how mayweather copes when he gets hit with one of oscars power punches
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The guys with good defense that Oscar fought had incredibly good chins. Camacho, Whittaker....other guys he fought weren't strictly defense....he dominated and dropped Castillejo....he whupped Oba Carr....those guys weren't disasterous on defense.
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lyle i agree bout jones i agree bout mayweather not really having power........... but since when does everyone assume delahoya is a power puncher? cuz he most def is not
DLH's got that mean left hook though!
That only seems to connect on fighters with limited defensive skills.
Thats not really fair DLH has caught a lot of top fighters with it. But Oscar is quite possibly the most skilled fighter Floyd has faced! Ruelas, Hernandez & Leija were rocked hard!
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lyle i agree bout jones i agree bout mayweather not really having power........... but since when does everyone assume delahoya is a power puncher? cuz he most def is not
W 38 (30 ko's) not bad ko record if you ask me mate ;)
right but that was mostly accuracy and speed combined with accumaltion of beating not exactly power when i say power i mean brute strenght
but mayweathers moving up in weight he has never been to before and he will feel oscars power it may not be thomas hearns kinda power but its good respectful power and it will be interesting how mayweather copes when he gets hit with one of oscars power punches
right i wwill be intestin but dont forget mayweather is type of fighter tht adapts very well during the fight
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Oscar - Mayweather who cares its right up there with Hopkins - Wright in the who cares stakes .
Mayweather will just stay on his bike steal the fight with the jab and run like he always does ..... I'd love to see Oscar cut the ring down and get the left hook on but sadly i just think it'll be a track meet .
Mayweather sucks ass so comppletely if i had to watch a day of his interviews or fights i'd end up eating my own head .
Still can't believe Mayweather came to the ring in a Gladiator costume and then complained about his sore hands .
What a complete tit .
Hater.
Run like he always does? Have you only seen one Mayweather fight in your life or something?
Who has he ran from? Maybe in the Baldomir fight.
But probably in the half dozen or so previous fights before that bout he was doing a lot of in-the-pocket fighting.
Just because a guy isn't getting hit, doesn't mean he's running.
If you expect Floyd to just stand toe to toe completely without guard, why would he do that? You're criticizing someone for not getting hit.
I believe Floyd will win this fight pretty convincingly. I won't be surprised if the fight looks a lot like Mayweather - Corrales. (Except not THAT one sided.)
One way Oscar might take it is if he keeps his guard up real high. Seeing that big exposed body, Floyd will most definitely be inclined to throw a few jabs to the body. One thing a lot of people never point out is that Floyd drops his right hand slightly whenever he throws a jab to the body.
That'll be Oscar's best opportunity to land a left hook if he could catch Floyd lunging in.
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Mayweather is just a punk he should have taken up Ice skating or become a ballerina he would have been good at that .
couldnt disagree more mate... hes a class fighter just sidesteped a few good champions on the way up and thats my main beef with him but credit where its due mate taking DLH is a brave move ;)
Saddo its a no lose situation for him ?
Whats the worse that could happen ? He gets knocked out and everybody says of he was out of his weightclass ,Oscar was too big , Floyd to small or some other shit that his motormouth will spurt out
just like when Oscar rolled over against Hopkins .
On the face of it Oscars past his best it just stinks.
He is not a fighter he is a wingeing little titty boy who fights b-list fighters and even then minces about like he's got Elton Johns Limo waiting for him out back .
The Gladiator costume was the last straw in my eyes.
Sorry to disaggree with you Saddo i know you look up to me and see me as a Mr Miagee type figure but sometimes Daddys have to say no .
I still have love for you .
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The amusing thing about this match up is that even though Floyd is waaaaaaaaaay outta his league in weight & Oscar is waaaaaaaaaaay outta his league as far as being matched against a slick boxer like Floyd...people are still going to act like mooks & bitch & piss & moan.
To bash one fighter is to detract from the other.
It's a great match up...even though it's one I don't really agree with or want to see that badly (that's why I bought a ticket to the show)...that does a hell of a lot for the sport.
HBO is pushing this fwocker down EVERYONE'S throat during the month of April & that will generate more PPV viewers & probably break records...I know that the gate already has.
If Floyd comes in with his A game & Oscar does the same...it'll be a fantastic match.
We shall see.
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The amusing thing about this match up is that even though Floyd is waaaaaaaaaay outta his league in weight & Oscar is waaaaaaaaaaay outta his league as far as being matched against a slick boxer like Floyd...people are still going to act like mooks & bitch & piss & moan.
To bash one fighter is to detract from the other.
It's a great match up...even though it's one I don't really agree with or want to see that badly (that's why I bought a ticket to the show)...that does a hell of a lot for the sport.
HBO is pushing this fwocker down EVERYONE'S throat during the month of April & that will generate more PPV viewers & probably break records...I know that the gate already has.
If Floyd comes in with his A game & Oscar does the same...it'll be a fantastic match.
We shall see.
cc bro, it's the biggest fight that could have been made!!!
I to hope both guys come with their best because it will be such a plus for the sport!
