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Taylor vs Mora is off. Spinks instead!??!
What the hell is wrong with JT?? Why must he keep finding 154's to try to beatup? He is a middleweight damnit! Fight the best middleweights available and prove you are the real champ...
Boxingtalk has been informed that Contender Champion Sergio Mora has refused to fight Jermain Taylor in Memphis, TN, therefore Taylor is searching for a new opponent. Word is, IBF Jr. Middleweight champion Cory Spinks is in the mix to land the fight. Needelss to say, Bob Arum, who promotes Kelly Pavlik, the WBC #1 contender, was infuriated by the news as he told Boxingtalk, "Pavlik is the #1 contender and we're ready to make the fight right now! Jermain needs to be a real middleweight champion and fight real middleweights." More to follow! (10:00PM ET
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Re: Taylor vs Mora is off. Spinks instead!??!
looks like he going back to his old habits. at one point it seem like everybody he fought had just moved up to 160.
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Well Spinks got guts I can say that much.
But why does Pavlik deserve Taylor?
How about this, how about Miranda and Pavlik fight on the undercard to fight the winner of the Jermain Taylor vs (whoever) for their next fight.
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Originally Posted by Majesty
Well Spinks got guts I can say that much.
But why does Pavlik deserve Taylor?
How about this, how about Miranda and Pavlik fight on the undercard to fight the winner of the Jermain Taylor vs (whoever) for their next fight.
Pavlik doesnt deserve Taylor, but Miranda does. But Id be more than happy to give him one more 'easy' fight and than take on the winner of Miranda vs Pavlik. I just dont think he will ever fight Miranda...
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Originally Posted by Pantera
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Originally Posted by Majesty
Well Spinks got guts I can say that much.
But why does Pavlik deserve Taylor?
How about this, how about Miranda and Pavlik fight on the undercard to fight the winner of the Jermain Taylor vs (whoever) for their next fight.
Pavlik doesnt deserve Taylor, but Miranda does. But Id be more than happy to give him one more 'easy' fight and than take on the winner of Miranda vs Pavlik. I just dont think he will ever fight Miranda...
Jermain got the tools to trouble Miranda, especially in that good jab.
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I'm not saying he cant or wouldnt beat Miranda. I just think he will be protected from being put in the ring with a big puncher that has a decent shot of hurting him...
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Originally Posted by Pantera
I'm not saying he cant or wouldnt beat Miranda. I just think he will be protected from being put in the ring with a big puncher that has a decent shot of hurting him...
I would agree, But probably because win lose or draw it would shorten his career and they wanna make a little more money with him.
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Taylor has good skills and decent power (when he's not trying so damned hard with the right cross!).
I would like to see Taylor vs the following, in this order:
Arthur Abraham
Edison Miranda
Kelly Pavlik
Winky Wright (only this low because it won't happen until after the B-Hop fight)
Jeff Lacy ( would love to see the fight even if it means nothing)
And a far off shot to Amin Asikainen
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I hope its Miranda. Try and back off against him and get tired near the end = KTFO.
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Why would Mora pull out of this? If his excuse is that he doesn't want to fight on JT's home turf (Little Rock or Memphis), then shame on Mora, because he's an idiot.
Does he think he's going to get another chance like this? He's a second-rate fighter who got some publicity because of a TV show and was therefore lucky enough to get a title shot and the biggest paycheck of his life.
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....Mora is a peice of shit, I'd rather him fight someone who could really put a hurting on him, like MIRANDA.
toe the line.....I fucking swear a pussy ass puncher like him acting with such bravado....it's shades of Paul Malinaggi!!!
Fuck Sergio Mora!
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Originally Posted by Lyle
....Mora is a peice of shit, I'd rather him fight someone who could really put a hurting on him, like MIRANDA.
toe the line.....I fucking swear a pussy ass puncher like him acting with such bravado....it's shades of Paul Malinaggi!!!
Fuck Sergio Mora!
CC Lyle. I fukin hate both of them as well. Featherfisted bitches that they are.
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Mora wasn't ready for Jermain Taylor, probably a few more fights but Mora could probably beat some other people at 16 0 before he fights Taylor, I think he should get a BAD fight before going to WCB
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Taylor has good skills and decent power (when he's not trying so damned hard with the right cross!).
I would like to see Taylor vs the following, in this order:
Arthur Abraham
Edison Miranda
Kelly Pavlik
Winky Wright (only this low because it won't happen until after the B-Hop fight)
Jeff Lacy ( would love to see the fight even if it means nothing)
I think JT beats Arthur with ease, JT would be too fast and wouldn't allow Arthur to get off his shots.
I think JT has some trouble with Miranda as he wouldn't be able to push him around but his jab would be the key to a victory.
I think JT blows right past Pavlik with flying colors.
I think Winky does it again BUT this time more convingcingly ;)
I think JTs tooo skilled for Lacy and would just frustrate him all the way through
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And a far off shot to Amin Asikainen
Thats my bwoy! Amin been following him for a minute now and have seen a few of his fights....
Well it's a little far RIGHT NOW! but not too far IMO, I've seen him box well and I've seen him go toe to toe and he can do both well......
I don't wanna say future champ. just yet! cause it's still a bit soon but I will say he has a really good shot....
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
I think JT blows right past Pavlik with flying colors.
I couldn't agree more. I have not been impressed with Pavlik at all. He has gaping holes in his game, and I think Taylor would destroy him.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Taylor has good skills and decent power (when he's not trying so damned hard with the right cross!).
I would like to see Taylor vs the following, in this order:
Arthur Abraham
Edison Miranda
Kelly Pavlik
Winky Wright (only this low because it won't happen until after the B-Hop fight)
Jeff Lacy ( would love to see the fight even if it means nothing)
I think JT beats Arthur with ease, JT would be too fast and wouldn't allow Arthur to get off his shots.
I think JT has some trouble with Miranda as he wouldn't be able to push him around but his jab would be the key to a victory.
I think JT blows right past Pavlik with flying colors.
I think Winky does it again BUT this time more convingcingly ;)
I think JTs tooo skilled for Lacy and would just frustrate him all the way through
We see eye to eye on everything except Winky - Taylor. I felt Taylor won that match by several rounds ;) . However I do think Taylor has looked lazy lately in his matches. He forgetting how he got there. A by product of that is loss ! So you might be spot on in a theoretical Wright - Taylor rematch ! Excellent insight mate. Enjoyed your read ! Cool Click # 1225 O0
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
I think JT blows right past Pavlik with flying colors.
I couldn't agree more. I have not been impressed with Pavlik at all. He has gaping holes in his game, and I think Taylor would destroy him.
You and me both SweetPea, nothing against the guy IF he had/has been showing me something to get a theory that hes got shot at JT but I ain't seen nothing that would lead me to think Pavlik can take on JT.
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Originally Posted by Lords Gym
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Taylor has good skills and decent power (when he's not trying so damned hard with the right cross!).
I would like to see Taylor vs the following, in this order:
Arthur Abraham
Edison Miranda
Kelly Pavlik
Winky Wright (only this low because it won't happen until after the B-Hop fight)
Jeff Lacy ( would love to see the fight even if it means nothing)
I think JT beats Arthur with ease, JT would be too fast and wouldn't allow Arthur to get off his shots.
I think JT has some trouble with Miranda as he wouldn't be able to push him around but his jab would be the key to a victory.
I think JT blows right past Pavlik with flying colors.
I think Winky does it again BUT this time more convingcingly ;)
I think JTs tooo skilled for Lacy and would just frustrate him all the way through
We see eye to eye on everything except Winky - Taylor. I felt Taylor won that match by several rounds ;) . However I do think Taylor has looked lazy lately in his matches. He forgetting how he got there. A by product of that is loss ! So you might be spot on in a theoretical Wright - Taylor rematch ! Excellent insight mate. Enjoyed your read ! Cool Click # 1225 O0
You know Abraham was my prospect when he was moving up in the rankings I really thought he was gonna develop and mix things up but honestly I see the same Abraham over and over, who waits too long and tends to fight and the rythim he is dictated instead of him dictating the pace.... Anyone who can keep busy against him (Miranda got a bit lazy IMO and just wasn't in the fight he let the dirty fighting get the best of him) will beat him I thought by the Jantuah fight surely I'd see something different but no same thing....
About Winky abd JT well those are 2 of the best around so it's really up in the air for grabs....
CC#702, soon I'll catch you at cc#1,000 ;D
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will have another chance Mora?
he has a name now after the show, when he lost 1 or 2 fights...
There are guys waiting an entire life for this chance. :-\
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Originally Posted by lukas_corso
will have another chance Mora?
he has a name now after the show, when he lost 1 or 2 fights...
There are guys waiting an entire life for this chance. :-\
To be honest it might have been a sensible decision on Mora's part. It seems like most guys here are hating on him but he's had less than 20 fights and probably doesn't feel ready for that huge step up in class yet.
To be honest I was more annoyed with Taylor for choosing to fight him in the first place than I am with mora pulling out.
But now Taylor wants to fight Cory Spinks? ???
Man he must want to get a knockout real bad :-\
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I dont understand some of these guys. Taylor is the champ and he gives Mora a shot. Now Mora doesnt want to fight him near Taylors Hometown?? Hes nice enough to even give him a shot and the champion can defend his belt wherever the fu%k he wants. Mora is in no position to call shots. Who did he ever fight
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It was a good decision by Mora to pull out, there wasnt any way that he was going to win that fight. Mora isnt going to be able to hurt JT so the only way to win would be by decision. With the fight being in JT's backyard no way that was going to happen. I havent been to impressed by JT lately, and I thought Mora would be able to give him problems.
JT picking Spinks to fight next is just crap! What happened to JT?? Wasnt he the one saying that he wanted to fight only the best? Spinks is not the best not at 160 or 154. I wanna see JT unify the titles again, anything else is a let down.
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A second fight with Winky, or a move up to 168 for Joe C or Kessler would not be a let down. Screw the alphabelts.
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Originally Posted by Brockton Bomber
A second fight with Winky, or a move up to 168 for Joe C or Kessler would not be a let down. Screw the alphabelts.
That is true I was thinking more along the lines if he was going to continue fighting at "160". Winky would be the only acceptable fight at that weight.
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Considering JT's last few fights before Ouma I don't blame him for taking a break. Sure, I don't hold him in as high of a regard, but I certainly can't fault him for taking a break. Hell, Ouma was more of a challenge than anyone expected.
And I thougth Ouma and Spinks were about to get it on.
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by Pantera
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Originally Posted by Majesty
Well Spinks got guts I can say that much.
But why does Pavlik deserve Taylor?
How about this, how about Miranda and Pavlik fight on the undercard to fight the winner of the Jermain Taylor vs (whoever) for their next fight.
Pavlik doesnt deserve Taylor, but Miranda does. But Id be more than happy to give him one more 'easy' fight and than take on the winner of Miranda vs Pavlik. I just dont think he will ever fight Miranda...
Jermain got the tools to trouble Miranda, especially in that good jab.
He hasnt flashed that Jab consistently or effectively since the Joppy fight
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Originally Posted by SweetPea
Why would Mora pull out of this? If his excuse is that he doesn't want to fight on JT's home turf (Little Rock or Memphis), then shame on Mora, because he's an idiot.
Does he think he's going to get another chance like this? He's a second-rate fighter who got some publicity because of a TV show and was therefore lucky enough to get a title shot and the biggest paycheck of his life.
Yeah thats excatly what i thought. As if it would make a difference where it was faught he would get spanked anyway. Least he'd pick up a big paycheck, but i spose he will go back to padding his record out with no ones.
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by lukas_corso
will have another chance Mora?
he has a name now after the show, when he lost 1 or 2 fights...
There are guys waiting an entire life for this chance. :-\
To be honest it might have been a sensible decision on Mora's part. It seems like most guys here are hating on him but he's had less than 20 fights and probably doesn't feel ready for that huge step up in class yet.
To be honest I was more annoyed with Taylor for choosing to fight him in the first place than I am with mora pulling out.
But now Taylor wants to fight Cory Spinks? ???
Man he must want to get a knockout real bad :-\
:coolclick:
I agree with the Hobbit!!!!
Why is Taylor looking down in weight classes? Why not up? The hottest guy right now is Miranda. Spinks shouldn't even be on the radar. Pick on someone your own size J.T.
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Originally Posted by luvfightgame
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by lukas_corso
will have another chance Mora?
he has a name now after the show, when he lost 1 or 2 fights...
There are guys waiting an entire life for this chance. :-\
To be honest it might have been a sensible decision on Mora's part. It seems like most guys here are hating on him but he's had less than 20 fights and probably doesn't feel ready for that huge step up in class yet.
To be honest I was more annoyed with Taylor for choosing to fight him in the first place than I am with mora pulling out.
But now Taylor wants to fight Cory Spinks? ???
Man he must want to get a knockout real bad :-\
:coolclick:
I agree with the Hobbit!!!!
Why is Taylor looking down in weight classes? Why not up? The hottest guy right now is Miranda. Spinks shouldn't even be on the radar. Pick on someone your own size J.T.
I agree with the Hobbit!!!!
Thanks buddy it's not often someone says those words :)
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you know what fuck it. i'm pickin spinks
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Originally Posted by 'The Boxer'
you know what F*** it. i'm pickin spinks
Don't.
Taylor-Spinks has "mismatch" written all over it.
Spinks would be giving up 7 inches in reach, 4 inches in height, and tons of size. Spinks is a natural 147 pounder, Taylor may be fighting at 175 before his career is over.
Spinks was knocked out by Zab Judah, a 147 pounder, and now he's supposed to take Taylor's punch?? No way.
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....Taylor fought at 175 vs Hopkins....he kills himself making weight
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They are both jokes. Mora only wants to fight where he can get his home cookin and Taylor only wants to beat up on smaller men. It's a smart move for Mora. It's also a bitch move. Probably because he's a bitch. As for Taylor, now the date is available, why not offer it to Miranda or one of the other deserving MW's. Cory Spinks? Cory Spinks? You're gonna fight Cory Spinks? Wow.
Why not give a shot to the LOSER of Duddy/Bonsante tonight?
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Originally Posted by SeanE
They are both jokes. Mora only wants to fight where he can get his home cookin and Taylor only wants to beat up on smaller men. It's a smart move for Mora. It's also a bitch move. Probably because he's a bitch. As for Taylor, now the date is available, why not offer it to Miranda or one of the other deserving MW's. Cory Spinks? Cory Spinks? You're gonna fight Cory Spinks? Wow.
Why not give a shot to the LOSER of Duddy/Bonsante tonight?
lol :coolclick:
I heard Calzaghe has dibs if Bonsante wins though
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by SeanE
They are both jokes. Mora only wants to fight where he can get his home cookin and Taylor only wants to beat up on smaller men. It's a smart move for Mora. It's also a bitch move. Probably because he's a bitch. As for Taylor, now the date is available, why not offer it to Miranda or one of the other deserving MW's. Cory Spinks? Cory Spinks? You're gonna fight Cory Spinks? Wow.
Why not give a shot to the LOSER of Duddy/Bonsante tonight?
lol :coolclick:
I heard Calzaghe has dibs if Bonsante wins though
Mora should fight the winner of the Duddy vs. Bonsante fight.
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Originally Posted by TyBuff
It was a good decision by Mora to pull out, there wasnt any way that he was going to win that fight. Mora isnt going to be able to hurt JT so the only way to win would be by decision. With the fight being in JT's backyard no way that was going to happen. I havent been to impressed by JT lately, and I thought Mora would be able to give him problems.
JT picking Spinks to fight next is just crap! What happened to JT?? Wasnt he the one saying that he wanted to fight only the best? Spinks is not the best not at 160 or 154. I wanna see JT unify the titles again, anything else is a let down.
Who's better then Spinks at 154 that's actually there to fight him?
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by TyBuff
It was a good decision by Mora to pull out, there wasnt any way that he was going to win that fight. Mora isnt going to be able to hurt JT so the only way to win would be by decision. With the fight being in JT's backyard no way that was going to happen. I havent been to impressed by JT lately, and I thought Mora would be able to give him problems.
JT picking Spinks to fight next is just crap! What happened to JT?? Wasnt he the one saying that he wanted to fight only the best? Spinks is not the best not at 160 or 154. I wanna see JT unify the titles again, anything else is a let down.
Who's better then Spinks at 154 that's actually there to fight him?
Taylor is huge for a 160 lb fighter though, he shouldn't be looking at 154 lber's anyway! There's nobody at 154 lb who could beat Taylor he's just too big. He should be looking at 168 lb fights.
Mora vs Duddy or Bonsante though, that's a good matchup. I'd like to see that fight and to be honest Mora has only had 19 fights so he shouldn't be looking at a fight with Jermain Taylor yet anyway.
He went into the Contender having had 11 pro fights. Give the guy a chance I say, let him build his record up a little and go for bigger fights a year or so down the line.
I'd love to see him in with John Duddy though, that would be one hell of an entertaining fight imo.
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by TyBuff
It was a good decision by Mora to pull out, there wasnt any way that he was going to win that fight. Mora isnt going to be able to hurt JT so the only way to win would be by decision. With the fight being in JT's backyard no way that was going to happen. I havent been to impressed by JT lately, and I thought Mora would be able to give him problems.
JT picking Spinks to fight next is just crap! What happened to JT?? Wasnt he the one saying that he wanted to fight only the best? Spinks is not the best not at 160 or 154. I wanna see JT unify the titles again, anything else is a let down.
Who's better then Spinks at 154 that's actually there to fight him?
Taylor is huge for a 160 lb fighter though, he shouldn't be looking at 154 lber's anyway! There's nobody at 154 lb who could beat Taylor he's just too big. He should be looking at 168 lb fights.
Mora vs Duddy or Bonsante though, that's a good matchup. I'd like to see that fight and to be honest Mora has only had 19 fights so he shouldn't be looking at a fight with Jermain Taylor yet anyway.
He went into the Contender having had 11 pro fights. Give the guy a chance I say, let him build his record up a little and go for bigger fights a year or so down the line.
I'd love to see him in with John Duddy though, that would be one hell of an entertaining fight imo.
I agree. Mora's still a "prospect" in my book. Why they push Manfredo after he lost twice I got no clue, he just fought Spina(who is Spina ???) And so people think he can upset Joe Calzaghe ??? Because of Roach in his corner right? Roach is now training Oscar so who is Manfredo going to have in his corner come fight time with Joe ???
I don't understand why Roach(whom I have a lot of respect for) would abandon an up and coming fighter before the biggest fight of his career to train someone who's had many big fights before and could work with any trainer.
If I was roach i'd have stayed with manfredo personally.
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Sergio Mora did the right thing by pulling out of this fight. (At least this is what DiBully said)
Sergio lacks so much experience it's not even funny. He does not have a long amateur record either. Sergio is nothing more than a prospect (If that). He is not even a Contender although he has the label thanks to the Contender show. He needs to stay busy and fight guys in the top 10/15 and see if he can contend. Had he gone up against Taylor, he would have been another Paulie Malignaggi who's biggest claim to fame is getting his azz kicked by Cotto. I don't think this is the kind of attention Sergio is looking for. As far as Peter Manfredo Jr. is concerned, I think he is just fighting for the money. He wont come to fight. I am sure he will hug all night and try to survive by doing just that. If he cuts Calzaghe in a clash of heads this might build up Peter's confidence but it will not be enough to win. We shall see April 7th. Here is hoping Calzaghe does what Champions do to nobodys ;D
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Originally Posted by Majesty
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
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Originally Posted by SeanE
They are both jokes. Mora only wants to fight where he can get his home cookin and Taylor only wants to beat up on smaller men. It's a smart move for Mora. It's also a bitch move. Probably because he's a bitch. As for Taylor, now the date is available, why not offer it to Miranda or one of the other deserving MW's. Cory Spinks? Cory Spinks? You're gonna fight Cory Spinks? Wow.
Why not give a shot to the LOSER of Duddy/Bonsante tonight?
lol :coolclick:
I heard Calzaghe has dibs if Bonsante wins though
Mora should fight the winner of the Duddy vs. Bonsante fight.
I love that idea, but I doubt it would happen. Sergio would NEVER come to NYC or Boston to fight Duddy, and that's were Duddy can sell tickets. If the fight is in LA, Sergio is the draw and he will demand the lions share of the money to go along with his home court advantage. Mora would need to fight him in a place with friendly judges, cuz his only hope is points. Personally, I would love to see Duddy go in to Mora's territory and knock his head off in front of his own people.
