REBOOT 2007 : Saddo's Official P4P list (the top 5 slots) VOTE!!!

It's that time again...time to update Saddo's Official P4P list...let's do this!

Well...once again wev'e started a brand new year of boxing at the one place that we all have come to call our home away from our homes, families, & day to day trials & tribulations.

Last year, you, the members of our tight knit community came together...we argued, we voted, we argued some more, and in the end it was a close, neck to neck poll that ended up shifting the players a bit.

Well...once again the FIT has hit the SHAN & we gotta sort this out...once again...so...let's start up the arguing voting & hashing out of the number one players in our sport.

Wer'e gonna vote on the top 5 spots this go around to make it a bit easier on the ole' Wackster...& then post the results over in Wackoland on our ratings & rankings board.

After the top five P4P fighters are sorted out we will work on the latter five.

Let's keep it clean & let's keep it fair.

Here's the link to the old list : http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxing_fo...-t40569.0.html

We had a blast doing so last year…& you made your picks & voted then..so let's talk my brothers & reboot 2007 once again because this is already proving to be a gloriously fantastic year for us all.

This poll runs for 30 days & you have 5 votes...there are plenty of options...let's get this done.

Please don't cheat & vote for one fighter 5 times.

Vote & post your list of the top 10 below.

Again...I'll sort it later in Wackoland.

1. Mayweather
2. Wright
3. Pacquiao
4. Taylor
5. Rafael Marquez

#1: "Pretty Boy" Floyd Mayweather
#2: Ronald "Winky" Wright
#3: Manny "the Destroyer" Pacquiao
#4: Juan "Dinamita" Manuel Marquez
#5: Bernard "the Executioner" Hopkins

Mayweather/Pacman

Rafa Marquez
Winky
hmmm,I'm confused....where does JMM go...how far does MAB drop?
(No way I'm putting B Hop here though,how can I have him higher than Taylor who beat him TWICE?!)

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Mayweather/Pacman

Rafa Marquez
Winky
hmmm,I'm confused....where does JMM go...how far does MAB drop?
(No way I'm putting B Hop here though,how can I have him higher than Taylor who beat him TWICE once! (ONCE & ONLY ONCE THE FIRST ONE WAS A ROBBERY & I, EL GAMO, KNOW THIS FOR WACKO SAYS IT IS SO?!)

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Fixed it for ya. Your loving moderator & truth telling drunkard...Wacko.

Yesssssssssssss Hopkins was robbed...
Yesssssssssssss Hopkins was robbed...
Yesssssssssssss Hopkins was robbed...
Yesssssssssssss Hopkins was robbed...

Fooooooooooooooooooor the Wacko tells me so.

Heh heh heh. Sing it loud & praise it proud El Gamo!!! ;D

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

Yesssssssssssss Hopkins was robbed...
Yesssssssssssss Hopkins was robbed...
Yesssssssssssss Hopkins was robbed...
Yesssssssssssss Hopkins was robbed...

Fooooooooooooooooooor the Wacko tells me so.

Heh heh heh. Sing it loud & praise it proud El Gamo!!! ;D

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LMAO!!! I totally agree,i think B Hop won the first,totally lost the second but if we open the history books,it'll say JT beat B Hop. Thanks for fixing it for me ;D ;D ;D ;)

1 MAYWEATHER
2 PAC-MAN
3 DE LA HOYA
4 SHANE MOSLEY
5 VIC DACHINRYAN

?Guess what....a Welshman giving Joe Calzaghe his first vote....surprising really :p I'm disappointed there's no Evander Holyfield button, but I'll work within your confines wack.


1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Floyd Mayweather
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Vic Darchinyan
5. Joe Calzaghe

1. Pacquiao
2. PBF
3. Winky
4. Rafael Marquez
5. JMM

Why's Nickolay Valuev an option? You might as well put John Ruiz as an option too.

1. Pretty boy Floyd

2. Manny Pacqiaou

3.Winky Wright..

4. Bernard hopkins

5. Marco antonio Barrera

As of now winky takes third and bernard takes fourth..But come the day after the fight.. I would be very happy to switch theyr places.. And im confident it may happen..

Understandably everyone is singing Juan manuel's praises.. and he put on a real show..
But for me..though he got the w.. for me i must stick to my belief that marco won last night and i will sing his praises as i would and do now if he had have got the decision

Peace

Vic Darchinyan top 5 P4P,you're fwocking joking right?

Mayweather
Wright
Pac (needs to fight a proven inform name at 130 tog et number 1 or 2 imo)
Raf Marquez (very very close to top 3 but i dunno so hard to call)
Barrera (was going to go with JMM but i do believe marco won it so im sticking with him - needs to have a home town fight for his fans and retire tho)

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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun

?Guess what....a Welshman giving Joe Calzaghe his first vote....surprising really :p I'm disappointed there's no Evander Holyfield button, but I'll work within your confines wack.


1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Floyd Mayweather
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Vic Darchinyan
5. Joe Calzaghe

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vic, and Calzaghe are top 5... But Winky, and Rafael Marquez aren't? That's a bit off imo, subjective as p4p lists are.

I could see Calzaghe being ahead of Marquez. He's been at the top longer and with the exception of Vasquez and Lacy, neither has really set himself apart as far as comp.

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Originally Posted by wacko3205

Yesssssssssssss Hopkins was robbed...
Yesssssssssssss Hopkins was robbed...
Yesssssssssssss Hopkins was robbed...
Yesssssssssssss Hopkins was robbed...

Fooooooooooooooooooor the Wacko tells me so.

Heh heh heh. Sing it loud & praise it proud El Gamo!!! ;D

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hopkins wasnt robbed at all he gave away most of early rounds i had it 7 rounds to 5 for taylor hopkins left it too late its his own fault but by no means is it robbery

#1: "Pretty Boy" Floyd Mayweather
#2: Ronald "Winky" Wright
#3: Manny "the Destroyer" Pacquiao
#4: Juan "Dinamita" Manuel Marquez
#5: Rafael Marquez

sorry wacko just borrowed your list ;D

1-Mayweather
2-Pacman
3-Wright
4-Juan Marquez
5-Hatton

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Originally Posted by Smashup

1-Mayweather
2-Pacman
3-Wright
4-Marquez
5-Hatton

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what marquez? and ha i VD is gunna luv your #5 his post is gunna be well worth reading:p

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Originally Posted by hitmanhatton

1 MAYWEATHER
2 PAC-MAN
3 DE LA HOYA
4 SHANE MOSLEY
5 VIC DACHINRYAN

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Vic D. top 5 P4P..... :(
A pice of me just died slowly.........

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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun

?Guess what....a Welshman giving Joe Calzaghe his first vote....surprising really :p I'm disappointed there's no Evander Holyfield button, but I'll work within your confines wack.


1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Floyd Mayweather
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Vic Darchinyan
5. Joe Calzaghe

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Vic D. #4 on TOP 5 P4P.... :(
The other part of me just dies even slower...... :(

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Originally Posted by El Gamo

Vic Darchinyan top 5 P4P,you're fwocking joking right?

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I think I just lost my mind...... ???
:dontknow:

obviously aint just me thou so i say great minds think alike

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1-Mayweather
2-Pacman
3-Wright
4-Marquez
5-Hatton

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what marquez? and ha i VD is gunna luv your #5 his post is gunna be well worth reading:p

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;D
He can try throw some my way by all means ;)

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1-Mayweather
2-Pacman
3-Wright
4-Marquez
5-Hatton

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what marquez? and ha i VD is gunna luv your #5 his post is gunna be well worth reading:p

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;D
He can try throw some my way by all means ;)

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but what Marquez lol?

Rafa

or

Juan M
??

To those who have Vic Darchinyan in the Top 5, please let me know what kind of weed you've been smoking, because I want to get my hands on some...

Also, someone wake up Landmine and tell him to get in this thread. Valuev is the only poor guy who doesn't have a vote yet.

hahaha

Sorry preme i meant JUAN

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Originally Posted by Smashup

hahaha

Sorry preme i meant JUAN

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pfft, take all day to tell us what one then you pick the wrong one!!!
haha joking mate;) guess he impressed u last night^^

Anyone who can put it on Marco is worthy ;D

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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun

?Guess what....a Welshman giving Joe Calzaghe his first vote....surprising really :p I'm disappointed there's no Evander Holyfield button, but I'll work within your confines wack.


1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Floyd Mayweather
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Vic Darchinyan
5. Joe Calzaghe

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vic, and Calzaghe are top 5... But Winky, and Rafael Marquez aren't? That's a bit off imo, subjective as p4p lists are.

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Indeed that is your opinion and you are perfectly entitled to it. However I stick by mine.

1. Mayweather
2. Wright
3. Pacquiao (he's more dominant than Winky, but he's way more flawed; I love him, but I can't justify putting someone with fundamental boxing flaws in the top 2)
4. Rafael Marquez (JMM is great, but I think he's going to get overrated on this list given the time proximity to the MAB fight (which I though MAB won anyway); I've had Rafa in my top 6 or 7 for a couple of years--I didn't have JMM on my list at all (though he was probably my #11) going into last night)
5. Taylor (I hate to put him this high--he's flawed and terrible to watch; but the fact is that he holds 2 victories over the guy who was #1 P4P at the time (like them or not--I did think he edged the second one), and a draw against the guy who was #2 P4P at the time (I thought he lost, but it was legitimately close). So I can't really justify putting anyone else ahead of him).

I know we're doing the rest later, but mine are like this:

6. Hopkins
7. JMM
8. Barrera (despite thinking he won last night--I'll respect the verdict (though never those scorecards))

Then I think it drops a level, and it's hard to pick from about 5-7 guys who should get the 9 and 10 spots, but I give them to:

9. Calzaghe
10. Mosely

On the brink: Cotto, Castillo, Hatton, Casamayor, Vasquez

For me.

1. PBF
2. The Pac Man
3. Winky
4. JMM
5. Jermain Taylor

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?Guess what....a Welshman giving Joe Calzaghe his first vote....surprising really :p I'm disappointed there's no Evander Holyfield button, but I'll work within your confines wack.


1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Floyd Mayweather
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Vic Darchinyan
5. Joe Calzaghe

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vic, and Calzaghe are top 5... But Winky, and Rafael Marquez aren't? That's a bit off imo, subjective as p4p lists are.

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Indeed that is your opinion and you are perfectly entitled to it. However I stick by mine.

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So you think that if Winky and Vic Darchinyan were the same size, vic would win? I just find this hard to fathom.

#1 "Pretty Boy" Floyd Mayweather Jr
#2 Manny "Pacman" Pacquiao
#3 Ronald "Winky" Wright
#4 Rafael Marquez
#5 Jermain "Bad Intentions" Taylor

:)

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Originally Posted by SweetPea

To those who have Vic Darchinyan in the Top 5, please let me know what kind of weed you've been smoking, because I want to get my hands on some...

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Probably some good as Middle Eastern shit!!! :rasta:

ye u wanna buy some ??? 8)

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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun

?Guess what....a Welshman giving Joe Calzaghe his first vote....surprising really :p I'm disappointed there's no Evander Holyfield button, but I'll work within your confines wack.


1. Manny Pacquiao
2. Floyd Mayweather
3. Juan Manuel Marquez
4. Vic Darchinyan
5. Joe Calzaghe

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vic, and Calzaghe are top 5... But Winky, and Rafael Marquez aren't? That's a bit off imo, subjective as p4p lists are.

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Indeed that is your opinion and you are perfectly entitled to it. However I stick by mine.

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So you think that if Winky and Vic Darchinyan were the same size, vic would win? I just find this hard to fathom.

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Well, at least you have fathomed the concept of a lb for lb list. Judging by his past two fights, Winky was very small to the weight, and got a draw in a fight that I had Taylor just edging. So yes.

1) PBF----hate the guy but he has the best skills in the business.
2) Winky --- still the second best practinoner in the sweet sciences
3) Pac-Man --- dont think he has a match at 130 lbs right now.
4) B-hop --- still one of the best, I think moving up in weight has helped him out.
5) JMM --- he showed he belongs up here by beating MAB

1. Mayweather
2. Wright
3. Pacquiao
4. JM Marquez
5. Jorge Arce

From looking at the poll stats, it looks like there are 4 people who didn't have Pacquiao anywhere in the Top 5... 6 people who didn't list Mayweather... and 17(!!!!) who didn't list Winky.
I'd be interested to hear the arguments for how those guys aren't in the Top 5, and who is better than them.