I havent seen fight but was barrera robbed ??
i found this on boxrec just wanted to know if this was correct
Barrera and Marquez put on a good show, but the judges' score's were very questionable. In other words, Barrera was robbed. Marquez hurt Barrera with a hard right hand in round seven, but Marquez was dropped shortly after from a picture-perfect right-hand-for-a-right-hand and Barrera hit him again while Marquez was on his hands because the referee failed to jump in immediately. The knockdown was not called and Barrera was penalized a point for hitting marquez while he was down. Marquez was not as aggressive as he was in the early going from that point on and Barrera continuously beat marquez to the punch, and was out-landing him. Emmanuel Steward commented on the judges' scoring saying it was very confusing how Barrera has given that city so many great fights, and the judges' turned around and robbed him like that.
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I thought Marquez won, but not by the distance on the judges cards... won by 2 or 3 rounds I reckon. Great fight! 8)
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Barrera was robbed of a knckdown for sure, but not of the fight. That was a good close fight and a lot of the rounds could have went either way...
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I do think Barrera did JUST enought to edge it. If the knock down had been scored it would have made Barrera the winner by 2 points on my card.It was a great, very close competitive fight. Now if Barrera had put on a clinic and lost by UD I could see why it would have been a robbery, but it was an extremely closely fought fight, so I wouldnt say it was a robbery. You could make a case for either fighter. Barrera did outland Marquez over the 12 rounds but Marquez did land the more power shots. It just depends on how the judges are scoring the fight.
I disagree with the result because I do think Barrera won. That the fight wasnt even a split decision was a huge shock for me and to hear the card of 118-109....well, that just blew my mind!! All of the judges were way off. Barrera losing his mind by hitting Marquez when down was madness though and that knockdown should have been scored! That was 2 points down the pan!!
A great fight, but a tough one for me to deal with! :-\
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In absolutely no way,shape or form did MAB get robbed. No way,it was a close close fight,I had JMM by 3,if the knockdown would have counted,I would have had JMM by 1. I prefered JMM's edge in power connects as opposed to MAB's jabbing because the criteria is clean hard punching and I consider power punching to fulfil that,more so than jabbing.Great great fight though. I don't recall Manny saying MAB was robbed,can anyone tell me when he said that?
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
In absolutely no way,shape or form did MAB get robbed. No way,it was a close close fight,I had JMM by 3,if the knockdown would have counted,I would have had JMM by 1. I prefered JMM's edge in power connects as opposed to MAB's jabbing because the criteria is clean hard punching and I consider power punching to fulfil that,more so than jabbing.Great great fight though. I don't recall Manny saying MAB was robbed,can anyone tell me when he said that?
My predictions are getting worrying!! Of my 3 favourite fighters (Calzaghe, Toney and Barrera) two now are on losing streaks!!! :(
Is Manfredo now going to do a number on Calzaghe?! :-\
Bilbo is rubbing his hands with anticipation!!! :'(
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Itv was a great fight..Not a robbery..More of an injustice.. A close scorecard like it should have been with either man winning would have been appropriate..
I can completely understand alot of people enjoying Juan manuel's power punch output.. and he was doing a nice job during the middle rounds..
I personally favoured marco antonio's sharp fast start ..A great mix or sharp boxing and counter punching from both fighters but i was very aware of how well barrera was more so leading the action with his jab and when jmm did get to the punch first marco was very quick on attempting and mostly succeeding to counter and punch off of blocked punches.. Many great left hooks and parry- over the top right hands landed from both men.. The fight was so incredibly close.. and it really came down to sometimes what single combination or punch could either fighter throw to catch the judges attention and a fight full of round stealing..
I have heard a couple of people say marco was going for late round stealing of the judges favour..But in all fairness both fighters did and more so they had to..
Just a complete mix of technical ability and brawling .. This coming much at the end of the rounds..
They would trade coming up to the last 30 seconds and i felt whoever stayed put and didnt step out of the trade or who landed more would be the stealer..
A true great fight..
Im watching the countdown to barrera marquez now...
And no doubt
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Peace
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Attaching the word robbery ::** just tarnishes what was a GREAT fight. (i'm not having a pop at you, Ice cold)
The scoring was odd thats all
And hardly surprising judging by the other fights on the night.
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Originally Posted by Fenster
Attaching the word robbery ::** just tarnishes what was a GREAT fight. (i'm not having a pop at you, Ice cold)
The scoring was odd thats all
And hardly surprising judging by the other fights on the night.
Yup, just what I was going to say. Marquez was winning for me, but only by a couple of rounds, not the margin that those strange, strange vegas judges found it. As you said, absolutely cracking fight though!
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Marquez won the fight thats for sure it was a great fight great skill great heart shown by both fighters .
The exchanges id say were quite even but the difference and what swung the fight for the Judges is that Marquez pressed the fight more and showed better generalship of the ring .
MAB still has enough quality but he does turn to fight in very exciting spurts and on this night Marquez could go punch to punch with him .
Against most fighters MAB clever counter punching cant steal the fight clearly but Marquez is a counter puncher himself .
What a truly great battle .
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Good tactical battle , not the war i expected , but round 7 and 8 were great, it WAS a knockdown!
And scores were pretty stupid imo. I can accept Marquez won, but not by that distance
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
i found this on boxrec just wanted to know if this was correct
Barrera and Marquez put on a good show, but the judges' score's were very questionable. In other words, Barrera was robbed. Marquez hurt Barrera with a hard right hand in round seven, but Marquez was dropped shortly after from a picture-perfect right-hand-for-a-right-hand and Barrera hit him again while Marquez was on his hands because the referee failed to jump in immediately. The knockdown was not called and Barrera was penalized a point for hitting marquez while he was down. Marquez was not as aggressive as he was in the early going from that point on and Barrera continuously beat marquez to the punch, and was out-landing him. Emmanuel Steward commented on the judges' scoring saying it was very confusing how Barrera has given that city so many great fights, and the judges' turned around and robbed him like that.
Statistically Barrera the AND landed more punches . HBO gave Marco the fight . Marquez looked like he'd been hit by a truck whereas apart from a little knick Marco was unmarked . Barrera scored a knockdown yet they gave teh round 10-8 to Marquez ?!! WTF was going on . I knew after teh Forbes - Hopkins that the curse of Vegas judging would be a factor . That was a joke though . Not even sure Barrera wants a return after that he was so gutted . Marquez said it was a slip but I duno who he is trying to kid . Everyone knows Barrera floored him fair and square . If Nady jumped in at that point and called it a knockdown like he should have there would be no problem but he allowed teh action to continue so Barrera hit him again . Poor judging , poor refereeing and that may have caused an all time great to walk away from the sport .
A rematch would be great but i'm not sure Barreras heart is in it anymore. Sure he can win a return fight but what guarentee have we got that the same thing wont happen again . It disgusted Barrera but after some time out with his family he'll make up his mind .
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Originally Posted by Greig
Barrera was robbed of a knckdown for sure, but not of the fight. That was a good close fight and a lot of the rounds could have went either way...
it could have gone either way but then the scoring was horrible.i have no problem of who won since it was a see-saw fight.. but 119-108.. thats a disgrace...
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i thought barrera just did enough to win - but anyone who has JMM winning by a few rounds i can totaly see why and would not dissagree with them 'coz it was that close! the score card was a discrace though!
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good point :D jmm said he slipped??? of course he did.. his defense slipped and got tagged.. or he slipped into barerras punch and just knelt.. if u slip on the canvas ur a$$ should be on the floor.. not your knee.. and did u guys hear barerra say "bye bye golden boy promotions"
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He wasn't robbed. The knockdown should have been counted, undoubtably, but he lost any advantage that gave him by hitting a guy on the floor seconds later, which was deplorable. I though Marquez won it 115-112, I agree the scorecards were insulting but the right man won.
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I had Barrera winning, call me biased or whatever but that was a joke of a scorecard and I'm am a little pissed with Golden Boy promotions...cant wait til De La Hoya gets his ass kicked by Floyd..knock him out Floyd ,dont let it go to the cards!!!
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Although i agree the score cards r a disgrace i still had marques winning by 3 points in a very close fight but i do also feel that some people on here r just a bit sore about barrera losing. Nd also on boxrec it shows an article which marques say he got knocked down nd also that barrera only landed seven more punches but barrera landed something like 146 powerpunches to marques 195 si frim wot i saw nd have read i thing its the right decision nd i dont think it right to decide who won a fight by wot their faces look like afterwards even though most of the time the loser of the fight is the most marked up of the 2.
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I could have swore that Barrera had landed more shot from the compubox numbers, I am talking total shots...I could live with a split decision or even a closer unanimous one, but 118-111 get the f outta here and go back to the Braille institute...BLIND MOFO !!!
I will give Marquez his due, he did land a lot cleaner power punches, and I take nothing away from his great performance. That seventh round crap was a 4 point switch and that hurt alot.Giving Marquez a 10-8 round rather than a 10-8 for Barrera.
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The whole fight card was tainted...D-Hop won by way too much and so did De Leon.I mean one judge didnt give Penalosa a single round.The outcomes may have been right, but come on now...
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Title: I havent seen fight but was barrera robbed ??
My answer: No.
