The new EVIL in the world today!!!!!

THE GLOBAL WARMING ACTIVISTS!!!!

This affects EVERYONE in the world!!!!

Much like the Catholics in the days of the Crusades and the Communists of the Cold War these Global Warming Activists are going to ruin your lives!!! They are mixing THEORY and MORALITY which has ALWAYS proven disasterous!

They are like the Catholics of the Crusades because they can buy their way out of their "sins"....Al Gore says he leads a carbon neutral lifestyle BUT this is only due to his buying of "carbon offsets". I mean Gore still flies private jets to go and give his speeches.

Also much like the creationism people they call those who oppose their train of thought which is based on THEORY "Global Warming Deniers"!!!!

And much like Communists these wackos want the government to control emissions.....get it people??? They want MORE government control!!!!! The government would control building, manufacturing, transportation, and hell even how much any family uses!


Don't give in people, I am not saying to destroy the Earth with pollution and garbage, but do not give up your lifestyles.


The greenies expect people to have FAITH in Global Warming without much proof if any at all....yet they are the same people that think people that believe in creationism are idiots......well I got news for them, they are hypocrits!!!

THEORY AND MORALITY DON'T MIX!!!!

Al Gore is the devil people!!!!!! THE DEVIIIIIIL!!!!!!!!!!!

(end rant)

I'm an atheist.

Wow.

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Originally Posted by TheDukeof74

I'm an atheist.

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Well I hate to read that Duke...I do not fall in line with much of the organized religions because while they preach of love and acceptance doesn't agree with how they have operated historically.

I do believe in God though but I think it's up to each individual to find their own relationship with whatever diety they believe in.



As for Global Warming....you Brits really need to beware, I heard Al Gore say he had your Tory and Labour parties working to achieve what he says is good. You better friggin watch out, these eco nuts are just socialists that like trees!!! They want to make your economy impotant!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Lyle

The greenies expect people to have FAITH in Global Warming without much proof if any at all....yet they are the same people that think people that believe in creationism are idiots......well I got news for them, they are hypocrits!!!

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No proof? Wow. Please tell me you're joking.

Dude seriously....Mars is getting hotter, do you think people live on Mars???

Also no one knows if the gases put out by human inventions or the gases put out by the earth itself are doing the most damage. The world's termite population puts out as much carbon dioxide as the entire US. Volcanoes also put out more gases than humans.



As I said before, I don't doubt pollution hurts the earth, I just believe there are quicker and easier solutions that will benefit the earth sooner than destroying all cars and economies.


AL GORE IS A LIAR SIR!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming_controversy

I know wikipedia is not a source that is 100% reliable but this describes the controversy.



Why give into what is said just because it's said by Al Gore??? Not thinking for yourself......that's how bigger problems start brother

Actually, this controversy has been around a whole lot longer than Al Gore's documentary.

The bottom line is - there's incontrovertible evidence that humans have greatly contributed to this problem. The problem needs to be adressed - it exists, and anyone denying that might as well strip naked and wander Times Square preaching about how the Earth is flat, or that the rest of the universe revolves around the Earth. We're contributing to the problem, and not insignificantly. Personally, I'd rather see people worry less about how much wealth they can accumulate and more about having a place to spend any wealth they do have.

I always think for myself ;)

And by the way - :coolclick: for standing up for what you believe in. I disagree, but that's what I like about freedom.

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Originally Posted by TheDukeof74

I'm an atheist.

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Well I hate to read that Duke...I do not fall in line with much of the organized religions because while they preach of love and acceptance doesn't agree with how they have operated historically.

I do believe in God though but I think it's up to each individual to find their own relationship with whatever diety they believe in.



As for Global Warming....you Brits really need to beware, I heard Al Gore say he had your Tory and Labour parties working to achieve what he says is good. You better friggin watch out, these eco nuts are just socialists that like trees!!! They want to make your economy impotant!!!!!

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Just fuking around Lyle, I pray for my family everynight.. I'm just not much of the religious type. No dis-respect my southern friend.

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Originally Posted by bcollins

I always think for myself ;)

And by the way - :coolclick: for standing up for what you believe in. I disagree, but that's what I like about freedom.

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CC back man


Duke, I am not much the religious type either but I just find it odd that the liberal types can just taunt and torment the people who do believe the Bible is the "word of God" but yet when the liberal types are questioned about their belief of the THEORY of Global Warming they react with the anger and malice towards their fellow man.


My belief about the environment is that the Earth's orbit changes ever so slightly over the years as any rotation affected by gravity would and therefore climate might change hotter or colder....not saying that pollution and what not doesn't hurt the ecosystems on the Earth. I am definantly 100% for having healthy ecosystems in the US and around the world.

I just think the fact that Al Gore says "you cannot question global warming" is a reason to fucking question the hell out of it!!! And it's something Al is buying time on....it's like the people who say Jesus/Muhamed/Buddah will come back to Earth in 5 years......10 years......15 years......20 years......I mean you keep going and you really can't be wrong and that's what Gore does 20 years ago he said "in 20 years things will be horrible"....he's been preaching so long George H.W. Bush called him "Ozoneman".

Lyle, I am simply incredulous .......... I actually agree with you !!!!!

I do not dispute that global warming and pollution is a problem. I am not sure incontrovertible proof exists that warming is not a natural planetary cycle (the world has been warming up since the last Ice Age), but I am prepared to accept that - on the balance of probability - humans have contributed to it.

However, what I object to are the social fascists who seek to try and tell me how to live my life in minutest detail to comply with their own simplistic world view. These people are the same people who jump on any so-called social issue that makes them furious, which is their overriding emotion, and giving them the opportunity to feel superior and lecture others. 60 years ago, they would have been happily shoveling Jews into the gas chambers or carrying Soviet Party Cards, 20 years ago they would be travellers rioting about Poll Tax....... now they are social workers and traffic wardens on fat final salary pensions paid for my us, after our own retirements have been sold down the swanee by the governemt.

Me being told to put paper in one bin and cardboard in another is not going to resolve fossil fuel burning in China or India, or reduce the Amazon rainforest logging. It is a con to cut costs and make more profit by making me do work that a company would otherwise have to pay someone to do.

Higher so called 'Green taxes' are the funniest of all. It is OK to pollute the atmosphere as long as you pay the government some money? So only rich people can pollute, even though they are the ones who can afford the undoubted extra costs of being 'green'? That is ethical and consistent!!

The best of all is when people descent into pettiness and political grandstanding - like some politician putting a wind turbine on his roof as if he is so green and committed (the carbon cost of building the turbine would take several hundred years to be offset by the inefficient output of power ...... but who cares what works or what is fair as long as we are SEEN TO conform to the Green fascists.)

This is the biggest bandwagon have seen in my life, shame there is no eco-tax to be levied on wasting billions of pounds and creating an monstrous beaurocracy of 'enforcers' who will make a tidy and self righteous living, by making everyone else on the planet miserable.

**(Rant temporarily postponed, but by no means over)**

cc Lyle
We didn't agree on one theory, but I like your words on this one. ;)
It's a natural cycle that's been happening to the Earth for millions of years caused by things like solar activity, volcanic emissions, and variations in the Earth's orbit. Why would change in Earth's climate all of a sudden humans fault.
Either that or them Mammoth's must've been driving some mighty gas guzzlin' hummers back at the end of the last ice age during their changing Earth climate too.

X and meowza, I am so glad we agree on something CC fellas!!!

Our knowledge and attitudes towards this GIGANTIC "fleecing of the populus" will keep these 'eco-facists' on the run and hopefully out of power.


I just wonder, for a group who is 100% controlled by science and scientific research....why do they not want anyone to question their theory??? That just doesn't add up!!!


Also X brought up a great point with the 'Green taxes' it reminds me of the times I read about the Catholic Church allowed you to sin if you paid the Church in return.

And meowza, PETA would lead me to believe that the Mammoth farts released too much Methane and hurt the environment ultimately leading to it's demise.....that's what those idiots say about livestock farms. Now I do KNOW livestock farms are bad for the environment but it's a necesary evil to feed as many people as we can.

And anyone who smells like a hippy ain't doin any favors to "Mother Earth" either!

Well I got to say , there are plenty of step that could be taken to reduce the use of fuels .. So many good ideas about cars that run on water. and so on, shot down simply because of special interest groups paying to have those ideas snuffed. Take cigarettes for instance. My mother is a smoker., addicted to something that everyone knows kills people, yet its still on the market. Proven to kill millions of people every year, yet you can still go out and buy a pack . Then take a great product like Ephedra a Chinese herb that has been used for thousands of years to help people . When the product is used as directed its is very beneficial to weight control and stamina, asthma . Then a few cunts overdose on the product taking 15 times the recommend dose and die from it, now its banned .. Fucking ridiculous how things work . O0

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Dude seriously....Mars is getting hotter, do you think people live on Mars???

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I'll repeat what has already been said: please tell me you're joking.

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Well Adam....what caused Earth's other climate changes??? Was T-Rex using his Hummer too much???

The relationship between historic temperatures and CO2 levels, based on ice-core samples, shows that carbon dioxide levels rise after global temperatures rise.

IPCC draws firm conclusions unjustified by the science, especially given the acknowledged weakness of cloud physics in the climate models.

The influential "Hockey Stick" study by Mann has been shown to contain errors .
Using "consensus" as evidence is an appeal to the majority argument rather than scientific discussion. Some have proposed that, because the issue has become so politicized, climatologists who disagree with the consensus may be afraid to speak out for fear of losing their positions or funding.
Climate models will not be able to predict the future climate until they can predict solar and volcanic activity, changes in sea temperature, and changes to cosmic ray levels that make the low level clouds that cool the earth, and take into account other recently discovered feedback mechanisms.
Water vapor, not CO2, is the primary greenhouse gas. Depending on the referenced source, water vapor and water droplets account for 36-70% of the greenhouse effect, while CO2 accounts for 9-26%.
Global warming is largely a result of reduced low-altitude cloud cover from reduced Galactic cosmic rays (GCRs). It is similar in concept to the Wilson cloud chamber but on a global scale, where earth's atmosphere acts as the cloud chamber.

The concern about global warming is analogous to the concern about global cooling in the 1970s. The concern about global cooling was unnecessarily alarmist. Therefore, the concern about global warming is likely to be equally alarmist.

The Medieval warm period, which lasted from the 10th to the 14th century, had above-average temperatures for at least Western Europe, and possibly the whole Earth. This period was followed by the Little Ice Age, which lasted until the 19th century, when the Earth began to heat up again.
Satellite temperature records show less warming than surface land and sea records.

Climatic changes equal to or even more severe than those on Earth are also happening on other bodies within this solar system, including Mars, Jupiter, Pluto and Triton.


Blindly follow whoever you want to Adam but when the people who think they truly follow and care about science act like the Bible beaters they make fun of so often it is cause for worry!

T Rex's hummer?

hahah stop it Lyle... :P

I'm not gonna bother with this though cos you're just as bad as the people you a bitching on about. Have you produced any evidence of correlation between our orbit and climate etc?

No. You're just throwing vague arguments out there and making points about mars and dinosaurs which every one... even greenies know are bollocks just so you have a point to prove wrong.

CO2 emissions are effecting our climate... I don't even see how it can be argued that they are not. I hate liberals too Lyle but facts are facts.

You'll noticed I haven't actually said what opinion on Global warming is? personally I don't really care about it: I'm a selfish bastard by the time it seriously effects the planet I will most likely be long gone and at the moment I'm just enjoying the warmer weather...

other countries might be getting so much hotter that the ground is cracking etc... other than a few more floods a year so far all we have to put up with is warm weather...

Well Adam as a matter of fact....look up something called

ORBITAL FORCING


BOO YA!!!!!

Lyle they're going to make a made for tv movie after you someday! lol.