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I can't see Mayweather retiring after this next fight, and thus I don't believe that Pacquaio deserves his throne, but after Mayweather who is comming up that can take the crown?
Rock Allen
Williams?
Kessler?
Jean Pascal?
Valero?
I don't follow the lower levels of boxing so I am wondering what are your opinions.
It could be many, but Kessler has one of the easiest ways to get there. If he fought Calzaghe in late summer and then B-hob and of course won both of the fights, then he would be pretty close to the first spot on P4P.
I reckon Kessler
Miguel Cotto maybe the next Tito ??
Oscar De La Hoya? ;D ;D
Nah man, in all seriousness, I'd go for Andre Berto as the man most capable of beating the top dogs of the future. Its almost impossible to predict though because all of a sudden guys come from nowhere.
miguel angel cotto
CC for you. The guy needs work, but Berto is my dark horse too.Quote:
Originally Posted by yoitsdan
Being from Europe automatically disqualifies you from the top five.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poom
Im on the bandwagon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brockton Bomber
I don't know..... I mean I wasn't really planning on going anywhere soon ???
Ouch!! That is so lame!! ;D :coolclick:Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Cotto or Kessler arer the obvious contenders with Rey Bautista, Andre Ward, Andre Berto and Demetirus Hopkins all as dark horses
haha I know, almost didn't bother typing it.. CC back though ;D
Come on fellas most of these guys are prospects you REALLY can't say right now....
I mean Ward the kind just hit 10 fights....
Berto looks to have the tools but the same thing was said about Bojado....
D-Hop..... He struggled against Frobes, hardly a sign of future P4P status...
I forgot Juan Diaz, does he have a chance? I can't see Andre Ward having the chin to be world champion. Isn't Cotto like 28 same with Kessler? I am talking about guys who are just starting to climb the ladder. I mean people knew that Mayweather was going to be special by his second fight, and same with Oscar, Jones Jr., etc.
Saying guys like Berto etc is a bit OTT in my opinion,these guys have barely had any fights,its too early to start calling them P4P best! Rafael Marquez will be close,he can beat Vazquez again,De Leon,the fricking freak Caballaro! Manny can fight JMM/MAB,Valero,Soto,Guzman,that's alot of good fights to be made. These 2 will be the main contenders imo.
Winky is near the end of his career,JT has stated he does not want to be around boxing for too much longer and his wins are never convincing enough to make himself P4P number 1 so that rules these 2 out pretty much for me(hypothetically speaking of course because things can change so quickly!).
If I HAD to pick someone who appears to have a really bright future ahead,it has to be Cotto. At 147,if he clears up,he will be p4p number 1. I also like Valero's chances as long as he CLEANS UP HIS FWOCKING TECHNIQUE!! Oh and DEFINITELY jOrge Linares,I'm a big fan of nino de Oro,his skills are superb.
Even though Taylors wins haven't been "convincing"...look who he has taken on.Nobody looks impressive against Hopkins,Wright.Taylor wont be around long anyway so.I definitly dont see Cotto being p4p anytime soon because he just isnt impressive to me after seeing his last 2 fights and he has to many flaws.1.He swings wide when throwing hooks.2.He relies on his body shots too much.3.His defense is C- when he is trying to stay in the pocket an brawl...making his head an easy target.4.He could definitly work on his footwork and combinations.I have no idea who is gonna step up...but as of right now I see no clear cut favorite.
I'd have to go with Cotto, even over Kessler.
Volero? I think he's way too sloppy and he'll be exposed sooner than later.
i would say pac man.
Cotto and Pac have a many chances.
I see Pac Man on the very highest point of his curve, he is getting too old to fight the way he does pretty soon somebody exactly like him will come along and beat him, or he will be outboxed soundly. AFter the Morrales fight I thought Zaheem could be p4p champ, but he fought horribly against Freitas.
mabye its Raheem I can't remember :P
Also you see Taylor losing to anyone in the immediate future of the middleweight division? I see him beating anyone out there still, Pavlik, Miranda are not fast enough, or good enough to fight Taylor. Did people see Miranda's last fight? His footwork looked akin to Valuev's when he was trying to actually box.
Chad Dawson might feture at top 3 spot in a year or two.
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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
D-HOP'S green...give him time and 2 pound is a former ibf title holder
i really wanna ask you.. why dont you think pacquiao deserves p4p throne besides your personal reasons???Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
Andre Ward
Sugar Shane Mosley is on the right track to be on the pound for pound list. He has all the tools and at 147 he isnt beaten. FACT.
Cotto is very tough too.... On his way as is Kessler if he takes big fights. Or can make the big fights.
PBF isnt retireing. FACT. He is too greedy and wants the limelight to0 bad. Any thoughts.
I also dont see Hatton losing anytime soon at 140 if he takes care of himself..
Shane Mosley isn't as good as Mayweather, and shouldn't ever be put on that plateau again.Quote:
Originally Posted by boozeboxer
What a question!!! Pacman is already the true pound for pound king. The more appropriate question is,"Who will be next p4p king after Pacman?"
Jorge Arce will be the next p4p king
Mosley could possibly sneak back to the top after PBF,Winky,Pac,and a few others retire.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
Cotto is tough...but he continues to reveal his flaws and doesnt seem to make an effort to fix them.
PBF hinted that he will fight Hatton then call it quits...I dont see how you call him greedy because his bank account is already in the 8 figures...and he will either focus on his record label or commentate.You shouldnt name call without actually knowing the guy.
Hatton can stay undefeated...it doesnt mean that you are p4p king.
Amir Kahn if he stays on track
alright you guys can shit on my comments.
Mosely is tough. I don't care what oyu all think. Pound for pound, if he doesnt move up too much.....he is very tough to beat.
Who is going to beat Hatton at 140??? Name them!
Marquez has to be a top name now. That was a quality fight with Barrera. Beating a dead Barrerra is a feat.
Pac Man is number right now in my mind. With Winky being number 2. PBF is #3. I don't like PBF it is true. I just don't think he has been tested much as of late to really be considered top on the list.
With each outing......Kessler is showing what a coward Calzaghe is. It is apparent the Kessler is moving up the ladder.
Some other chump was already trying to take your spot...but he's since changed his name...so no worries there. ;) ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
low blow, great job well done good for you woootiiiwooooow ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
khan could be in future,not for at least 3/4 years.so not the NEXT p4p king.i quite like arce
Who has pacman fought, A worn out Morrales? Larios? THat doesn't compare to Judah, Baldomir, even Gatti to me. Who can beat Hatton? Weight, maybe Corrales, Maybe Castillo, probably some guys who aren't even all that great yet, and he won't be able to stay at the weight much longer anyways, and at welterweight I know a handful of guys who would destroy him. Also I don't see how Calzaghe was coward after he faced Lacy. I can't see him backing down from Kessler after he's already faced Eubanks and the hyped Lacy. BTW it isn't your competition that makes you the best. It's who would beat who plain and simple, and Mayweather would destroy Pacquaio if they were in the same weight.Quote:
Originally Posted by boozeboxer
it seems like for you,everybody that pac fought is worn out fighter while everybody think they're world class. so barera is worn out when he fought pac.. so is jmm.. so is larios... maybe morales is worn out.. but he did fight every big name fighter out there.. he brawled.. not hit and run.... and you think mayweather is better if the fought toe to toe... which fighter did mayweather fight that he went toe to toe with?all he did was punch run like a biatch.. then punch and ran... u call that a fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
The objective is to win....Floyd is not a brawler.I suggest you buy the Street fights Vol. 3...im sure you'll see some toe to toe brawls in there.Quote:
Originally Posted by josef4334
FYI-He went toe to toe with Gatti,Corrales,Corley,etc...