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Margarito-Williams in June!
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WBO welterweight champion Antonio Margarito against #1 rated Paul Williams in June, probably at a venue in California. The date will be determined, but June 9 and June 23 are already planned for other big Top Rank cards. There are plans to match the winner of the winner of Margarito-Williams with the winner of Cotto-Judah in the fall.
So Williamas & Judah are gonna fight this fall?
Cool. :P :-X
I can see this happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
Cotto vs Margarito
and
Williams vs Judah
This fall.
Yup! You said it.
;)
I honestly see Judah giving Cotto some severe issues if he comes in on point.
Judah's really REALLY fast...& unless Cotto TKO's his ass early...I wouldn't be shocked if we watched Cotto's record take a hit.
Actually Wacko if this fight goes into later stages i think it maybe worse for Judah because look at Mayweather fight for example in later stages his workrate dropped and he loses concentration later in the fightQuote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
I see Judah rocking Cotto few times but i don't think he has confidence to try and ko Cotto so i see late tko for Cotto.
Judah has stamina issues,so I see it the other way around,Judah needs to get Cotto out early before he slows down himself(plus Cotto's bodyshots should take effect later on too ;D )
As for Tony Williams,we've been discussing that quite a bit in the last few days Wack,check out the threads.I favour Margarito to win,his uppercuts on the inside are available allll night long v Paul and his defence is better too.
His workrate dropped against Floyd because a lot of the shots were bumping Floyd's shoulders instead of his jaw.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Cotto's a whole lot easier to hit than Floyd is. You have to look at some of Judah's other wins. It's been proven that an on point Judah is a hard man to match. He pulled that TKO worthy match up against Spinks & everyone had pretty much written him off, prior to that. Spinks (like him or not) is a hell of a boxer with an amazing feel of the ring...which I might add...Cotto is not & does not move around the ring as fluidly as either of the above three names.
Much as I like Cotto...I think that this one might be a shocker...but trust me babe...I'll be pullin for Cotto.
I think Cotto will emerge the winner of this mini tournament, and if PBF decides to fight again after Oscar Cotto will be the opponent.
Floyd is gonna fight Hatton after Oscar...
I think the Margo vs Williams fight is 50/50 given the fact that I've only seen 3 Margo fights and 3 Williams fights.
I think that if Zab comes in the ring with his stamina up...I think he comes away with a split-decision.His downfall was that during his camp to prepare for the Mayweather fight...he spent the majority of time focusing on the mitts and then he bicycled a little bit...which isnt gonna cut it.
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
but thas also cuz mayweather capitlized and mayweather started gettin stronger and adjusted to judah afcourse judah did fade sumwat but still had more fight in him then i think cotto can handle ...... judah by tko cotto cant do it not in my eyes
CC#2760 for the news to me bwoy! WackOff3205 whos been a little shady lately.... :(
but anywho!
Wow! you surprise me with this statement, are you just taking the safest route or is this just a gut feeling your getting?Quote:
Originally Posted by wacko3205
I think Cottos gonna make peoples faces look like this after he wins.
As for Margarito vs. Williams hell the fwock yeah!!! :dance:
And theres a chance of this landing in Los Angeles damn!! :o let me start saving up some money....
In May we got Larios vs. Chi & Guzman vs. Katsidis at the Honda Center in Anaheim and it appears that another card is being put together for the Staple Center also..... 8)
Things looking good....
Williams isn't ready to fight Margarito imo. He beat a short Sharmba Mitchell. Williams has had impressive wins, but he still gets hit a lot and given his size and speed and potential he shouldn't. It will be a whole other world when Margarito hits through his leaky defense.
I think Margarito is gonna beat Williams who just aint ready.
Yes,here it is. The perfect example. George,weren't you one of the peeps saying Tony is ducking Paul? And now,even before there is a winner,the "just ain't ready" line is being used. How much longer does Williams need to be ready? He has already had 32 pro fights,how can he possibly still be green? How much will he improve?Quote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
This situation already rekindles memories of the Cintron fight.
As much talking as I've done, I would be stupid to pick Margarito. But it's a lot more of a pick em now I think. Why in the hell does Paul hold his hands so low? I still think he will be able to slip most of the long punches of Margarito. The thing that worries me is those little rangy uppercuts, I can see him getting caught by a lot of those. I also think though that Williams will be the more active fighter and I want to see how Tony handles a constant jab in his face. Unless Williams is scared, which I doubt he is, then I like him to win the fight.
I just wish he would pick his damn hands up though, because he's not THAT good at slipping punches.
On a sidenote, the Goossens are really interested in getting a big fight in Northern California. How awesome that would be if this one came up north for a change. I'm drooling just thinking about it.
Now you know how much I hate Judah...& you know I wouldn't cover me ass on some shit like this...I honestly think that an on point Judah would give Cotto either the fight of his life or the career defining match that he so desperately needs at this time.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
I think that if Paulie could go the stretch with him & connect on all the shots that he threw...a focused Judah could actually be the foil...& I'd be fwockin disgusted...because I highly rate Cotto & for Judah to beat him...well...you know what that would mean?
I'd have to give him props for once.
Judah been out for some time. weak chin. poor stamina. bad habits = disaster vs. Cotto . Miguel should cash him out with little resistance. O0
Judah will take on that “feet don’t fail me now” approach ., should keep him out of danger for a bit , after 6 Zab will be ready to go.
I think Judah knows this might be his last big fight should he lose and will pull it off as he will bring that little something extra that he really needs to bring if he hopes to get by Miguel Cotto.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Cotto leaves himself open especially when he is throwing punches like when he's exchanging with his opponents and he has been floored because of this in the past. I don't think Cotto is ready for a slick, speedy left-hander who can really bang. Cotto will get hit in this fight, and Zab Judah packs a lot of heat. Judah went 12 rounds with Mayweather and he never seemed to be hurt bad at any point and although he was too tired in the later rounds to catch the lightning quick Floyd Mayweather Jr, he isn't gonna have to chase after the Puerto Rican star. Cotto will most definitely be right there in front of him. I think we will see some real interesting in-fighting in this match-up, and Cotto's famed left hook to the body isn't gonna be nearly as effective as it is against an orthodox opponent. Hopefully for Miguel, his straight right hand to the body is as destructive as the left hook is or Zab will most likely get the better of the exchanges inside as I think his hands are faster.
Zab Judah's biggest downfall is that he sometimes can lack focus. He can take opponents too lightly and can be overconfident. This has cost him in fights like the Baldomir upset. I don't think that's gonna be an issue this time around, though. I think for this fight, because it comes when it does, that Zab will be more motivated to go the extra mile in camp, study his opponent and listen to his coaches, stay confident but not be overconfident... as he should know that it could be, at the very least, the beginning of the end for him if he loses this fight. "Super" Judah has a history of rebounding from losses and coming back strong. He needs to do that now, more than ever if he hopes to end Miguel Cotto's winning streak in June. O0 Have a CC
The man said it. ccQuote:
Originally Posted by Lords Gym
Interesting Margarito-Williams Facts:
Both boxers had very short amateur boxing careers.
Margarito was 18-3 in the amateurs before going pro.
Williams only fought between 22-30 amateur fights before he turned pro.
;) I dont know why I know these things
same approach with his fight with tzsyu, mayweather, and spinks. spinks is the only one that got caught with the "punch, dont fail me now!!!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Lords Gym
Boom Boom with your OK, I'd like to add that Margarito has defeated 3 prospects/contenders who have been undefeated at the time they met.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomBoom
Sergio Gabriel Martinez, Hercules Kyvelos & Kermit Cintron.
Heres hoping he can add Paul to that list.......
Hercules was undefeated at the time but he hadnt fought anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
Sergio ""
Kermit Cintron ""
Yeah Hercules wasn't much but to his credit Martinez and Cintron were pretty good. In all actuality Clottey should have been undefeated. His only loss was a DQ to Carlos Baldomir in a fight he was easily winning and got DQ'd for leading with his head. But the clashes were really accidental and he got disqualified. Considering that I'd say Clottey is the best of all those 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMicK
Right, I agree about Kyvelos. But he was still said to have a really good chance at defeating Margarito at the time he fought at 3 of them the talks were that they would give Margarito fits.... He beat them all....Quote:
Originally Posted by Olympian904
Actually Jetson, you must have a bad memory ;) I've always said that Williams wasn't ready for Margarito. Remember when I said that I wanted Margarito to beat Cotto? And said that Williams wasn't ready, and you said this.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Gamo
And you said this
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
and then I said this.
So you can't use me as example..Quote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
unless its an example of you getting proven wrong, in which case I'm happy to take mister Flinstone ;D
That is true. I think this is a pickem fight. Williams really hasnt fought as strong a fighter than Margarito and Margarito has fought stronger guys than Williams. I think Williams is more ready than Cinton was but his defence isnt much better. I got a feeling its not going to be a pretty fight. I like both guys but Margarito is a safer pick. Neither guys are gonna shine against each other thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMicK