~(GAB) Bans Filipino fighters from fighting in Thailand INDEFINITELY~

The GAB (Games and Amusements Board), the philipnes' governing body for boxing states that they have suspended the issuance of travel authority to ALL Filipino boxers who wan't to fight in Thailand.....
This is all coming from the tragic death that just occured this past Friday when Lito Sisnorio took a beating from former Champ. Chatchai Sasakul.
GAB chairman states that untill he is ensured the safety of his fighters then ban will remain indefinitely.....
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This is crazy! man I mean certain procedures and regulations have to be taken here and they werent..... Someone skiped a few steps and disreguarded the regualtions, Someone knew this wasn't right and they closed their eyes and let this one go by....

IMO that Someone has to serve some time.

This is what the fight reads on BoxRec:
"Catchweight of 116 lbs. Sisnorio died from injuries sustained in this fight. Sisnorio is 11-5-1 following this fight. This fight has no approval from Philippine boxing commission, Games and Amusement Board (GAB), and considered as illegal."

Thoughts on this, banning of ALL Filipino fighters from Thailand.....

Well, I mean Thailand and the Philippines are two of the major players in the lower weights. And because of how relatively close they are, they compete a lot. In fact, wasn't the world cup of boxing supposed to be Mexico vs. Philippines this year? And last year it was Mexico vs Thailand. That shows you how significant both countries are. This is crazy. I mean that is a huge step. Hope it gets sorted quickly.

I've also noticed that Thai fighters tend to never stray from their own backyard. I never knew if the money was greater in Thailand or whatever, but maybe it's because of favorable treatment from the commissions? I mean if they went this far, something has to be seriously wrong here because that is a huge step.

RIP Sisnorio.

Another thing, how did Sisnorio manage 3 fights with world rated fighters with such a poor record? Krateangym, Pongslakek and Chatchai? All in a row?

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Originally Posted by amat

Another thing, how did Sisnorio manage 3 fights with world rated fighters with such a poor record? Krateangym, Pongslakek and Chatchai? All in a row?

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Well, as far as Pongsaklek look at his record, please don't do this to me amat (I also read your note on the Prediction for this week)....

Geez! thanks amat, good night to you too. :(

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Originally Posted by amat

Another thing, how did Sisnorio manage 3 fights with world rated fighters with such a poor record? Krateangym, Pongslakek and Chatchai? All in a row?

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he got use, sisnorio must of been in need of money so he accepted. but that is a punk move to fight a guy with such a poor record against krateangym, chatchai and specially pongslakek...

pinas must be piss, thailand has good fighters but pinas fighters must be piss from this...

i wonder what really went on...

That was really shocking... Well, that is life. People here in the Philippines die of hunger. Better fight and have a chance to earn money.

Many Filipinos are even going to Iraq despite the travel advisory not to go there. They would rather die in Iraq that stay in the Philippines with hungry stomachs.

I think this is a knee jerk reaction.

Am I the only one who sees that this was not an approved fight?
This was done without the consent of the commision, therefor it's ilegal.....

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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

The GAB (Games and Amusements Board), the philipnes' governing body for boxing states that they have suspended the issuance of travel authority to ALL Filipino boxers who wan't to fight in Thailand.....
This is all coming from the tragic death that just occured this past Friday when Lito Sisnorio took a beating from former Champ. Chatchai Sasakul.
GAB chairman states that untill he is ensured the safety of his fighters then ban will remain indefinitely.....
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:o
This is crazy! man I mean certain procedures and regulations have to be taken here and they werent..... Someone skiped a few steps and disreguarded the regualtions, Someone knew this wasn't right and they closed their eyes and let this one go by....

IMO that Someone has to serve some time.

This is what the fight reads on BoxRec:
"Catchweight of 116 lbs. Sisnorio died from injuries sustained in this fight. Sisnorio is 11-5-1 following this fight. This fight has no approval from Philippine boxing commission, Games and Amusement Board (GAB), and considered as illegal."

Thoughts on this, banning of ALL Filipino fighters from Thailand.....

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GAB realy wants to stop Filipino boxers who fights in thailand who have really no chance of winning pitted against much skilled thai opponent and serves just to pad their record. thailand is well-known for making mismatch fights. imo, because of this mismatches, tragedy like that of Sisnorio is just waiting to happen.

my thought is until thailand's boxing authorities will continue to patronize making these mismatch bouts, GAB really has the right to impose ban for the safety of the filipino boxers.

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Originally Posted by puga_ni_nana

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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

The GAB (Games and Amusements Board), the philipnes' governing body for boxing states that they have suspended the issuance of travel authority to ALL Filipino boxers who wan't to fight in Thailand.....
This is all coming from the tragic death that just occured this past Friday when Lito Sisnorio took a beating from former Champ. Chatchai Sasakul.
GAB chairman states that untill he is ensured the safety of his fighters then ban will remain indefinitely.....
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:o
This is crazy! man I mean certain procedures and regulations have to be taken here and they werent..... Someone skiped a few steps and disreguarded the regualtions, Someone knew this wasn't right and they closed their eyes and let this one go by....

IMO that Someone has to serve some time.

This is what the fight reads on BoxRec:
"Catchweight of 116 lbs. Sisnorio died from injuries sustained in this fight. Sisnorio is 11-5-1 following this fight. This fight has no approval from Philippine boxing commission, Games and Amusement Board (GAB), and considered as illegal."

Thoughts on this, banning of ALL Filipino fighters from Thailand.....

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GAB realy wants to stop Filipino boxers who fights in thailand who have really no chance of winning pitted against much skilled thai opponent and serves just to pad their record. thailand is well-known for making mismatch fights. imo, because of this mismatches, tragedy like that of Sisnorio is just waiting to happen.

my thought is until thailand's boxing authorities will continue to patronize making these mismatch bouts, GAB really has the right to impose ban for the safety of the filipino boxers.

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Well said,
Someone needs to be prosecuted for this IMO......

You know I never really thought about this match making that goes on up untill now. I was going throught the records of fights being held in Thailand and for the most part they really are mismatches.... I have to say I was a bit ignorant towards this happening and it's not that I didn't know it was happening I just never really gave it much thought....

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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

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Originally Posted by puga_ni_nana

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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

The GAB (Games and Amusements Board), the philipnes' governing body for boxing states that they have suspended the issuance of travel authority to ALL Filipino boxers who wan't to fight in Thailand.....
This is all coming from the tragic death that just occured this past Friday when Lito Sisnorio took a beating from former Champ. Chatchai Sasakul.
GAB chairman states that untill he is ensured the safety of his fighters then ban will remain indefinitely.....
************************************************** ************************************

:o
This is crazy! man I mean certain procedures and regulations have to be taken here and they werent..... Someone skiped a few steps and disreguarded the regualtions, Someone knew this wasn't right and they closed their eyes and let this one go by....

IMO that Someone has to serve some time.

This is what the fight reads on BoxRec:
"Catchweight of 116 lbs. Sisnorio died from injuries sustained in this fight. Sisnorio is 11-5-1 following this fight. This fight has no approval from Philippine boxing commission, Games and Amusement Board (GAB), and considered as illegal."

Thoughts on this, banning of ALL Filipino fighters from Thailand.....

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GAB realy wants to stop Filipino boxers who fights in thailand who have really no chance of winning pitted against much skilled thai opponent and serves just to pad their record. thailand is well-known for making mismatch fights. imo, because of this mismatches, tragedy like that of Sisnorio is just waiting to happen.

my thought is until thailand's boxing authorities will continue to patronize making these mismatch bouts, GAB really has the right to impose ban for the safety of the filipino boxers.

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Well said,
Someone needs to be prosecuted for this IMO......

You know I never really thought about this match making that goes on up untill now. I was going throught the records of fights being held in Thailand and for the most part they really are mismatches.... I have to say I was a bit ignorant towards this happening and it's not that I didn't know it was happening I just never really gave it much thought....

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yes, same thing here. am not aware of mismatches done in thailand and filipino boxers serves as "whipping boys" until i read a post in another boxing website by an american boxing news editor based in bangkok. now he is pushing for reforms in current thailand boxing scene.

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Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

Am I the only one who sees that this was not an approved fight?
This was done without the consent of the commision, therefor it's ilegal.....

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exactly...but how much Legal stuff actually goes on in Tailand? Honestly?...:)

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Originally Posted by supergenius

That was really shocking... Well, that is life. People here in the Philippines die of hunger. Better fight and have a chance to earn money.

Many Filipinos are even going to Iraq despite the travel advisory not to go there. They would rather die in Iraq that stay in the Philippines with hungry stomachs.

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I grew up in Saudi Arabia and I swear I've never seen people treated so poorly for working so hard. The country runs on Philipino, and subcontinent labor. They pay barely anything and these people somehow find a way to send most of their checks back home to their families. These are often university graduates that are incredibly intelligent and industrious and they end up being bossed around by some halfwit.

Filipinos are known hard workers even with little pay all over the world. Sending their money back home will yield greater than to spend it where they work. Still pretty cheap to live in the Philippines, Starbucks Frap is about $2.5 dollars ;D

The mistake here is the mismatch. Suspending permits to fight in Thailand is a good quick decision. Local boxing scene in the Philippines is at its all time high, we can develop fighters here anyway that is why the requirements for a Filipino fighter to fight elsewhere is very high.

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Originally Posted by supergenius

That was really shocking... Well, that is life. People here in the Philippines die of hunger. Better fight and have a chance to earn money.

Many Filipinos are even going to Iraq despite the travel advisory not to go there. They would rather die in Iraq that stay in the Philippines with hungry stomachs.

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if you appply or renew for a philippines passport, DFA (Depratment of Foreign Appairs) will stamp your passport "Not valid for travel in Iraq" so that filipinos cannot work in there. but still they find ways to enter iraq illegally through other routes.

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Originally Posted by titleist905t

Filipinos are known hard workers even with little pay all over the world. Sending their money back home will yield greater than to spend it where they work. Still pretty cheap to live in the Philippines, Starbucks Frap is about $2.5 dollars ;D

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yeah we sure are pretty hardworking, professionals or blue colar workers were the same. the "little pay" that we receive abroad transforms into lots of money here in the philippines since standard of living is low.

but still it is costly for me to buy a coffee from starbucks here even if it is just $2.5 = P120 and the sad part is they are very good coffee!!! :'(

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Originally Posted by titleist905t

The mistake here is the mismatch. Suspending permits to fight in Thailand is a good quick decision. Local boxing scene in the Philippines is at its all time high, we can develop fighters here anyway that is why the requirements for a Filipino fighter to fight elsewhere is very high.

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i agree but since there is not enough fights happening here, filipino boxers were recruited to fight in thailand and unwittingly becomes punching bags in the process since they were most of the time (if not all the time) overmatched. thailand's boxing authority is just letting this malpractice happen... >:mad

Unreal. Thanks, mate

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Originally Posted by Ted The Bull

Unreal. Thanks, mate

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No worries.. :)

WTF!

24-year-old Filipino "Lito" Sisnorio was coming off a fourth-round TKO to reigning WBC flyweight boxing champion Pongsaklek Wonjongkam, 63-2 coming in. It was the Filipino’s third successive defeat.

He then fought former WBC flyweight boxing champion Chatchai Sasaku, 58-3, at the Wat Sing School in Thailand on March 30. Sasakul had won his last six fights, four by stoppage, while the Filipino won only five of his 11 fights. Sasakul is the fighter who battered, yes battered, Manny Pacquiao for six rounds before Manny caught him with a devastating combination to win the title by a sensational eighth-round knockout in 1998.

The vastly-experienced Sasakul predictably ended the fight via a fourth-round knockout. He had landed a series of vicious right hooks forcing "Lito" to go down for the count at 2:35. Later, he fell unconscious while eating dinner and was rushed to Bangkok’s Piyamin Hospital where he underwent emergency brain surgery to remove a blood clot. Sadly, he failed to regain consciousness.

His death prompted the Philippine Games and Amusement Board to ban all fights involving Filipino boxers in Thailand starting April 2007. According to BoxRec and other sources, this fight had no approval from the Philippine boxing commission and was considered to be illegal.

So much for the grim details...but let's take a closer look. Why was a 10-6 fighter (or was it 5-4) allowed to fight a 58-3 former champ? And this after having been knocked out by the tough Pongsaklek Wonjongkam just two months earlier.

I recently complained about the mismatch between Amir Kahn and Stefy Bull, but this was on a much deadlier level. This was culpable and egregious. This was not boxing; this was blood sport. This terrible mismatch was not on global Television, nor was it widely publicized...maybe that's why it was allowed to happen. My God, here's a kid who finished his boxing career with a total of 11 fights or 17 fights depending how you interpret BoxRec figures, but he's thrown in with tigers like Wonjongkam and Sasakul . That's flat out criminal.

Was an unscrupulous matchmaker in Thailand involved? Did he work with an equally unscrupulous type in the Philippines who allows fighter to go to Thailand without necessary clearance to fight? Did "Lito" slip out of the country without permission? Has Sisnorio’s manager, Jemmel Contayoso, been questioned? Why did this fight lack approval from the Philippine boxing commission, Games and Amusement Board (GAB)? Why was Sisnorio not licensed at the time of the fight? Why was he still allowed to fight? Why, why why?

This one didn’t come out of the ordinary circumstance surrounding boxing where the referees and ring side physicians are competent and the fighter are evenly matched, but still, a fatality tragically occurs. Oh no, this one involved a flashpoint of culpability that occurred in plain sight. We all know why this one occurred and that’s what makes it so reprehensible and unacceptable.

Hopefully, the right questions were (and are) being framed by Thai officials after Lito had been taken to the hospital. But it’s too late for the 24 year old. His brain quickly filled with destroyed blood vessels and blood. He quickly shut down. And that’s where it all ended for him. In a place where no bell tolls with the final ten count for fallen warriors. It ended in a place where there was no more hope, no more triumphs.

".....His death prompted the Philippine Games and Amusement Board to ban all fights involving Filipino boxers in Thailand starting April 2007....." From the prior post and from another thread. ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

Thoughts on this, banning of ALL Filipino fighters from Thailand....."

Well, I don't care for zero tolerance solutions. They are mindless. As a temporary measure, its good. But the two culprits involved must beferredt out and punished. I tend not to name names in my articles, but everyone close to this issue knows who the two are one is in Thailand and the other is in Manila. Two scumsuckers who need to be eradicated from boxing.

http://www.philstar.com/philstar/NEWS200704101610.htm

http://www.philstar.com/philstar/NEWS200704101610.htm