Joe: I can take the Mikkel

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,3-2007150199,00.html

By PAT SHEEHAN
April 03, 2007

JOE CALZAGHE will fight Mikkel Kessler to decide who is the world’s top 12st fighter.

WBO super middleweight champion Calzaghe last night promised that unbeaten WBC and WBA holder Kessler will go the same way as Jeff Lacy, the highly-touted American he overwhelmed last year.

Calzaghe, 35, makes the 20th defence of his title against Peter Manfredo in Cardiff on Saturday.

The Welshman said: “Kessler is a carbon copy of Lacy.

"When I got injured and pulled out of the first date against Lacy people called me chicken.

“Then I destroyed him only for people to say he was never any good anyway.

“If I have to fight Kessler to unify the division I will. Just because he beat some average Mexican called Librado Andrade doesn’t make him a great fighter.”

Calzaghe should deal easily with Manfredo, 26, the star of Sylvester Stallone’s US TV reality show The Contender.

The 35,000-strong crowd under the Millennium Stadium roof will be the biggest ever in Europe to watch an indoor fight.

Calzaghe said: “It’s a dream come true and I fancy myself to stop him.”
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“Kessler is a carbon copy of Lacy" ;D ;D ;D ;D

He OBVIOUSLY doesn't mean styles wise.

And it's perfectly reasonable for him to say that. At the moment the Kessler situation is very similar to the Lacy situation... before Calzaghe battered him. ;)

Hehehe - Kessler just beat an "average" Mexican named Andrade...who was unbeaten, and solid, if nothing else.

Is it me, or is Joe's next bout also with an "average" fighter?

Kessler is a complete fighter with great skills for Calzaghe to say he is a carbon copy of Lacy is madness

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Originally Posted by Fenster

At the moment the Kessler situation is very similar to the Lacy situation...

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No, Lacy did never beat a champ to become one. Lacy struggled several times against average opponents as Sheika and Thompson.

Kessler is unified champ and has never struggled against mediocre opponents.

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Originally Posted by bcollins

Hehehe - Kessler just beat an "average" Mexican named Andrade...who was unbeaten, and solid, if nothing else.

Is it me, or is Joe's next bout also with an "average" fighter?

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Sorry mate, but if Andrade is an "average" mexican, then Manfredo is a fu**ing joke. Andrade was a rated fighter, and whatever it takes Palle and Warren need to get their heads together and make the fight happen.

When Joe refers to a "carbon copy" he, as Fenster correctly points out, is referring to the situation with Kessler rather than the fighter himself. People are talking up Kessler big time, like they did Lacy, and as long as the fight gets made the situation is resolved.

And if anyone with any sway reads this, remember one thing:
















MAKE THE GOTDAMN FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Fenster

At the moment the Kessler situation is very similar to the Lacy situation...

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No, Lacy did never beat a champ to become one. Lacy struggled several times against average opponents as Sheika and Thompson.

Kessler is unified champ and has never struggled against mediocre opponents.

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Thats not the point.

The situation as far as Calzaghe's concerned is he has ANOTHER young unbeaten guy calling him out, along with the boxing world demanding he should face him, just like the Lacy situation...and the same divs that now write-off the Lacy win as worthless will do the same should he beat kessler

Lacy became regarded by the "fans" as the TRUE and rightfull no.1 champion in the division before he got battered too ;)

I give Calzaghe some stick on here but if he beats Kessler he deserves the respect of a true champ as for Lacy he was overated shite

Overrated shite that started FAVOURITE on the back of looking devastating, destroying Pemberton and most importantly Robin Reid.. the man that gave Calzaghe his toughest fight.

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Overrated shite that started FAVOURITE on the back of looking devastating, destroying Pemberton and most importantly Robin Reid.. the man that gave Calzaghe his toughest fight.

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His toughest fight? Are you joking?

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Overrated shite that started FAVOURITE on the back of looking devastating, destroying Pemberton and most importantly Robin Reid.. the man that gave Calzaghe his toughest fight.

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His toughest fight? Are you joking?

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No I'm not joking Robing Reid gave Calzaghe his toughest fight.

Did you think I meant someone else? ;D

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Overrated shite that started FAVOURITE on the back of looking devastating, destroying Pemberton and most importantly Robin Reid.. the man that gave Calzaghe his toughest fight.

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His toughest fight? Are you joking?

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No I'm not joking Robing Reid gave Calzaghe his toughest fight.

Did you think I meant someone else? ;D

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Oh, sorry ;)

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Originally Posted by Elephant Beer

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Overrated shite that started FAVOURITE on the back of looking devastating, destroying Pemberton and most importantly Robin Reid.. the man that gave Calzaghe his toughest fight.

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His toughest fight? Are you joking?

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No I'm not joking Robing Reid gave Calzaghe his toughest fight.

Did you think I meant someone else? ;D

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Yeah 1 judge gave that to Reid by 5 rounds . There should have been an immediate rematch but we missed out on that . Now Reid is washed up anyway .

Kessler and Joe would be a massive fight . I dont know where it might happen but if it did , it could rival 35k for this fight . Hope it happens but it probably wont

A fight with Kessler is not comparable styles wise to the fight with Lacy, but in other respects Calzaghe is correct....

I hope the fight comes off...

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Originally Posted by bcollins

Hehehe - Kessler just beat an "average" Mexican named Andrade...who was unbeaten, and solid, if nothing else.

Is it me, or is Joe's next bout also with an "average" fighter?

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Sorry mate, but if Andrade is an "average" mexican, then Manfredo is a fu**ing joke. Andrade was a rated fighter, and whatever it takes Palle and Warren need to get their heads together and make the fight happen.

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That's how I meant that - I'm really good at not getting my point across ;)

I thought it funny that JC was pointing fingers at Kessler's competition right before a bout with Manfredo.
Hilarious.

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Originally Posted by bcollins

Hehehe - Kessler just beat an "average" Mexican named Andrade...who was unbeaten, and solid, if nothing else.

Is it me, or is Joe's next bout also with an "average" fighter?

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Sorry mate, but if Andrade is an "average" mexican, then Manfredo is a fu**ing joke. Andrade was a rated fighter, and whatever it takes Palle and Warren need to get their heads together and make the fight happen.

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That's how I meant that - I'm really good at not getting my point across ;)

I thought it funny that JC was pointing fingers at Kessler's competition right before a bout with Manfredo.
Hilarious.

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What Calzaghe is saying is that people are now putting Kessler on the high boat with this win over Andrade. Andrade wasnt the second coming of anything! Calzaghe has never pretended that Manfredo is a gladiator...

Calzaghe has fought superior opponents when compared to Kessler thus far. This is surely not in dispute.

I agree that JC has better names on his record, but he's also has a much longer career. Kessler's still relatively young. I'm a fan of both fighters, but JC has a habit of fighting boxers WAY beneath his skill level.

Proportionally, Andrade is a much tougher opponent than Manfredo.

Also, if Joe wants to disprove Kessler's claims to be the next big thing at SMW, there's one definitive option - quit talking and start fighting! There's no reason why this fight shouldn't happen pronto.

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Originally Posted by bcollins

I agree that JC has better names on his record, but he's also has a much longer career. Kessler's still relatively young. I'm a fan of both fighters, but JC has a habit of fighting boxers WAY beneath his skill level.

Proportionally, Andrade is a much tougher opponent than Manfredo.

Also, if Joe wants to disprove Kessler's claims to be the next big thing at SMW, there's one definitive option - quit talking and start fighting! There's no reason why this fight shouldn't happen pronto.

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A better record does indicate a known boxer with known for sure skills

I never denied that Manfredo is less that Andrade.

Agreed. Calzaghe: Kessler needs to follow this Manfredo debacle

It will be a huge fight!!!!

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Originally Posted by tysonbruno

I give Calzaghe some stick on here but if he beats Kessler he deserves the respect of a true champ as for Lacy he was overated shite

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basicaly hence the point of taking a shot of kessler;

coming into the lacy fight calzaghe was said to be the underdog, lacy the next big thing.. now people liek you call lacy an overrated shite... Taking a shot at kessler does 2 things

1. forces people liek your self to come out and state things about how good kessler is, how it does benefit joe form winning, so when he wins it will shut people up

2. people say the fight is big now, wait until its signed, this just adds to the excitment.

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Originally Posted by tysonbruno

I give Calzaghe some stick on here but if he beats Kessler he deserves the respect of a true champ as for Lacy he was overated shite

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basicaly hence the point of taking a shot of kessler;

coming into the lacy fight calzaghe was said to be the underdog, lacy the next big thing.. now people liek you call lacy an overrated shite... Taking a shot at kessler does 2 things

1. forces people liek your self to come out and state things about how good kessler is, how it does benefit joe form winning, so when he wins it will shut people up

2. people say the fight is big now, wait until its signed, this just adds to the excitment.

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Lacy was only the next big thing for some of us - I have a record of saying that Jeff was overrated since his stoppage against Gaidarbek Gaidarbekov in the Olympics. He was much more out boxed than by Calzaghe and then stopped.

Not to be proud but I told you from the very start that Lacy was nothing more than top 25 EU SMW as his amateur record very accurate shows. He lost to Magee by KO, to Ashira by KO, to Quentin Smith (and was handed the Olympics by a very dirty win - Lacy lost 2 out of 3 wins against Smith - in my book all 3)

I followed national amateur boxing close in 12 year and also the Americans as Lacy (and he was very nothing special in the amateurs) - but one day after I left the amateur training, than this guy Gery Shaw started to show that this very average amateur guy, who has always lost on the world scene, was the next big thing.....I was amassed....

Lacy is a good guy but not a good boxer, please understand it....

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Originally Posted by Elephant Beer

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Originally Posted by Fenster

Overrated shite that started FAVOURITE on the back of looking devastating, destroying Pemberton and most importantly Robin Reid.. the man that gave Calzaghe his toughest fight.

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His toughest fight? Are you joking?

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No I'm not joking Robing Reid gave Calzaghe his toughest fight.

Did you think I meant someone else? ;D

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Yeah 1 judge gave that to Reid by 5 rounds . There should have been an immediate rematch but we missed out on that . Now Reid is washed up anyway .

Kessler and Joe would be a massive fight . I dont know where it might happen but if it did , it could rival 35k for this fight . Hope it happens but it probably wont

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Personally if it takes place it will be in one of two places IMO. Millennium Stadium of the football stadium in Copanhagen where Kessler fights. Much as a neutral venue in Vegas would be fairest, I reckon it will depend on which of the promoters caves in first as to who gets home advantage. It would be a full house wherever it is.

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Originally Posted by bcollins

Hehehe - Kessler just beat an "average" Mexican named Andrade...who was unbeaten, and solid, if nothing else.

Is it me, or is Joe's next bout also with an "average" fighter?

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Sorry mate, but if Andrade is an "average" mexican, then Manfredo is a fu**ing joke. Andrade was a rated fighter, and whatever it takes Palle and Warren need to get their heads together and make the fight happen.

When Joe refers to a "carbon copy" he, as Fenster correctly points out, is referring to the situation with Kessler rather than the fighter himself. People are talking up Kessler big time, like they did Lacy, and as long as the fight gets made the situation is resolved.

And if anyone with any sway reads this, remember one thing:
















MAKE THE GOTDAMN FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Right...don't see that fight ever coming to be.....and Manfredo has been rated as high as 4th before so as far as him being a F**king joke I would hold off on that one till after this fight.....and then we can go from there....One fight at a time....

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Right...don't see that fight ever coming to be.....and Manfredo has been rated as high as 4th before so as far as him being a F**king joke I would hold off on that one till after this fight.....and then we can go from there....One fight at a time....

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What? You serious?

Manfredo ranked as high as 4th :o

4th what ???
When ???
How ???
By whom ???

Calzaghe is putting down Mexican fighter's now?

What a phuking racist mother phuker this fool turned out to be.

I am glad the fool you are fighting is Italian. A Mexican American kid beat the crap out your next opponent.

Phuk you Calzlappy!

You Biggot!

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Calzaghe is putting down Mexican fighter's now?

What a phuking racist mother phuker this fool turned out to be.

I am glad the fool you are fighting is Italian. A Mexican American kid beat the crap out your next opponent.

Phuk you Calzlappy!

You Biggot!

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What the bleeding heck are you talking about Danny? I've read through the interview again and I can't see anything that could be construed as racist in there, but if you have any better information I'd welcome it. And I won't mention your spelling ;)

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Originally Posted by bcollins

Hehehe - Kessler just beat an "average" Mexican named Andrade...who was unbeaten, and solid, if nothing else.

Is it me, or is Joe's next bout also with an "average" fighter?

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Sorry mate, but if Andrade is an "average" mexican, then Manfredo is a fu**ing joke. Andrade was a rated fighter, and whatever it takes Palle and Warren need to get their heads together and make the fight happen.

When Joe refers to a "carbon copy" he, as Fenster correctly points out, is referring to the situation with Kessler rather than the fighter himself. People are talking up Kessler big time, like they did Lacy, and as long as the fight gets made the situation is resolved.

And if anyone with any sway reads this, remember one thing:
















MAKE THE GOTDAMN FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Agreed.......And Andrade is DAMN tough...I don't fault IKessler for not getting him out of there I mean Shit what more could he do....Baseball bats are illeagle...and afger that fight I am not even sure one would have helped.....

I will say this....If Andrade had better boxing skills he might clean out the F'N division himself....Cause you sure the hell ain't knocking him out and if you can't outbox him your night is long and on the losing end

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Originally Posted by tysonbruno

I give Calzaghe some stick on here but if he beats Kessler he deserves the respect of a true champ as for Lacy he was overated shite

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basicaly hence the point of taking a shot of kessler;

coming into the lacy fight calzaghe was said to be the underdog, lacy the next big thing.. now people liek you call lacy an overrated shite... Taking a shot at kessler does 2 things

1. forces people liek your self to come out and state things about how good kessler is, how it does benefit joe form winning, so when he wins it will shut people up

2. people say the fight is big now, wait until its signed, this just adds to the excitment.

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I was shocked to see you pull me up on something again honest i was but i thought Lacy was overrated before he fought Calzaghe i had Lacy as underdog but the Kessler fight is a completely different fight alltogether Kessler can fight and i would say its a evens fight.Lacy struggled with Shieka so i knew Calzaghe would beat him the only chance i gave Lacy was the ko if he landed in terms of boxing ability Kessler is miles ahead of Lacy and he can bang also this fight would be great for Calzaghes career and the boxing fans.Preme i don't know why you always choose to fight me on everything are you going to the fight saturday?