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Bernard Hopkins Not Against Fighting Holyfield
Hoipkins currently has a July fight scheduled with Winky Wright, but is not against a possible fight with Holyfield at heavyweight. Actually, he told Fernandez that potential fight with Evander would be a huge event.
"You just put a fight together. It'd be two legends going up against one another. It would be a chance for Bernard Hopkins to prove he can hang with a bona fide heavyweight, and one of the greatest of my era," Hopkins said.
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"The Klitschkos are too big," Hopkins said. "Sam Peter? Forget it. I would never win. I think he's the best heavyweight in the world right now, and he's huge. I can't fight no giants."
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sensible about the klits and peter
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
"The Klitschkos are too big," Hopkins said. "Sam Peter? Forget it. I would never win. I think he's the best heavyweight in the world right now, and he's huge. I can't fight no giants."
Much props to Hopkins admitting the plain truth.
Atleast he knows his limits...I'm curious to see how far Wright can push them.
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i havent seen holyfield's last few fights but from what i read he looked alright. bhop may be able to run and pick shots all night to pinch a decision, but holyfield has still got an awesome chin and i dont htink it would be a good idea ofr bhop to mess at heavy weight. there are plenty of good fights for him at 175.
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Originally Posted by jbirdy
i havent seen holyfield's last few fights but from what i read he looked alright. bhop may be able to run and pick shots all night to pinch a decision, but holyfield has still got an awesome chin and i dont htink it would be a good idea ofr bhop to mess at heavy weight. there are plenty of good fights for him at 175.
To be honest i don't know what fighting Holyfield has anything to add to his legacy id rather him fight at 175 or try and win belt at Cruiserweight or have showdown with winner of Calzaghe vs Kessler.
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I don't think this fits into Holyfield's plans of being world heavyweight champion. Sorry, Bernardo.
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I think Holy can win this quite easily.... Hopkins dosent have that prolific of a workrate anymore and he isint light on his feet, he is not gonna KO Holyfield and I feel Holyfield has enogh in the tank to take it to Hopkins... AT heavy Evander has enough power to floor Hopkins.
Its sad cause Hopkins is trying to be an opportunist and get a good win at Heavy at the expense of Evander Holyfield's name well Bernard is in for a rude awakening if he signs those papers, cause you know Evander dont duck or Fuk around with anyone and will come come to fight and win  ;)
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I also think its funny that there is NO mention of James Toney..... Bernard knows he would lose quite easily to James at Heavyweight
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
"The Klitschkos are too big," Hopkins said. "Sam Peter? Forget it. I would never win. I think he's the best heavyweight in the world right now, and he's huge. I can't fight no giants."
This is so typical Hopkins and represents his whole carrer. Always extremely selective and avoiding the best fighters. Why fight at HW if he does not want to fight the best?
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
I also think its funny that there is NO mention of James Toney..... Bernard knows he would lose quite easily to James at Heavyweight
I would like to see Holyfield revenge that beating he took off Toney if i was Holyfield i would do it now while Toney is on the slide.
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I also think its funny that there is NO mention of James Toney..... Bernard knows he would lose quite easily to James at Heavyweight
I would like to see Holyfield revenge that beating he took off Toney if i was Holyfield i would do it now while Toney is on the slide.
A real heart breaker for me watching that fight, worst feeling I ever had since following the sport seeing Evander get beaten like that
I agree and wouldnt be suprised if The fight got made, James would be a legitimate step up in comp for Holy in his come back, and I think injury free and inshape like he is, I think he could out work Toney to a desicion..
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Originally Posted by wacko3205
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
"The Klitschkos are too big," Hopkins said. "Sam Peter? Forget it. I would never win. I think he's the best heavyweight in the world right now, and he's huge. I can't fight no giants."
Much props to Hopkins admitting the plain truth.
Atleast he knows his limits...I'm curious to see how far Wright can push them.
Ok, I guess I gotta give him that one huh Wack?
cc for the thread Gamo, nice bit of info.
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
I think Holy can win this quite easily.... Hopkins dosent have that prolific of a workrate anymore and he isint light on his feet, he is not gonna KO Holyfield and I feel Holyfield has enogh in the tank to take it to Hopkins... AT heavy Evander has enough power to floor Hopkins.
Its sad cause Hopkins is trying to be an opportunist and get a good win at Heavy at the expense of Evander Holyfield's name well Bernard is in for a rude awakening if he signs those papers, cause you know Evander dont duck or Fuk around with anyone and will come come to fight and win ;)
How can you say Bernard is not light on his feet? Did you see the Tarver fight or the Taylor fights? He used excellent footwork and was light on his feet.
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I think Evander would win easy also. Bernard dont have the work rate anymore to outpoint Evander and he sure cant KO him.
As far as Toney , it would be funny .They are polar opposites as far as being in shape. Judging from Evanders last fight I would give him a chance. Man he looked good, I know it was a bum but he was really accurate,those uppercuts were awesome. You have to remember though Toneys last fight was against possibly the best heavy out there and Evanders was against a nobody. It would be good for Evander to prove he was fighting injured and thats why Toney beat him .
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And by light feet I don't mean moving like Leonard. I mean that he doesn't got stuck on his feet, and that he is able to any direction at any time. Mayweather doesn't jump around, but he still has light feet and gets in quick.
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Originally Posted by Taeth
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
I think Holy can win this quite easily.... Hopkins dosent have that prolific of a workrate anymore and he isint light on his feet, he is not gonna KO Holyfield and I feel Holyfield has enogh in the tank to take it to Hopkins... AT heavy Evander has enough power to floor Hopkins.
Its sad cause Hopkins is trying to be an opportunist and get a good win at Heavy at the expense of Evander Holyfield's name well Bernard is in for a rude awakening if he signs those papers, cause you know Evander dont duck or Fuk around with anyone and will come come to fight and win ;)
How can you say Bernard is not light on his feet? Did you see the Tarver fight or the Taylor fights? He used excellent footwork and was light on his feet.
Quite easily..... Go back and watch the fight, he would put his head down and lunge with the right, clinch hold and hit... Repeat for a total of 12 rounds... I like Bhop and think he schooled Tarver but he was no Floyd or Roy out there he just took advantage of a Drained Tarver and made him pay for it..... It wasnt like B-Hop was dancing circling and pumping the jab... He lunged ahead with the right 75% of the fight ;)
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Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
I also think its funny that there is NO mention of James Toney..... Bernard knows he would lose quite easily to James at Heavyweight
I would like to see Holyfield revenge that beating he took off Toney if i was Holyfield i would do it now while Toney is on the slide.
I disagree...Toney would beat him again.
This Holyfield comeback is opportunistic and against the right opposition. Toney would stop him again.
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Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
I don't think this fits into Holyfield's plans of being world heavyweight champion. Sorry, Bernardo.
spot on BG ! O0
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Originally Posted by El Gamo
"The Klitschkos are too big," Hopkins said. "Sam Peter? Forget it. I would never win. I think he's the best heavyweight in the world right now, and he's huge. I can't fight no giants."
Where is this quoted from El Gamo I want to read the source?
@JTRock, I seriously doubt Bernard is afraid to fight James Toney. If anything that fight is made for him. A super slick boxer in poor condition who is also a blown up middleweight with no punch at the weight.
I'm really suprised Hopkins hasn't called him out and can only assume it's because he feels Toney is on the slide and is therefore damaged goods.
Trust me if Toney had beaten Peter and was in line to fight Maskaev Hopkins WOULD want to fight him
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there is no doubt in my mind that evander would knock him the fuck out - but ti wont happen coz hopkins wont get in the ring with him, he is full of shit lol - first he 'wanted' oleg - thats out then he wanted to fight calzaghe to stop him beating his record, then he says about calaghe coming to LHW to meet him lol Then it was kessler now hes quiet on that. He will keep fighting hand picked fighters and sadly be loved and paid well for it.
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Originally Posted by Preme
there is no doubt in my mind that evander would knock him the F*** out - but ti wont happen coz hopkins wont get in the ring with him, he is full of S*** lol - first he 'wanted' oleg - thats out then he wanted to fight calzaghe to stop him beating his record, then he says about calaghe coming to LHW to meet him lol Then it was kessler now hes quiet on that. He will keep fighting hand picked fighters and sadly be loved and paid well for it.
Statements like this make you look like a complete idiot. You do realize this right? Hand picked opponents, like Taylor, Tarver, and Wright... In 3 consecutive fights... Shall I compare this with your favourite fighter and his resume of late? Who's he fighting again this weekend... I forget.
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Originally Posted by Preme
there is no doubt in my mind that evander would knock him the F*** out - but ti wont happen coz hopkins wont get in the ring with him, he is full of S*** lol - first he 'wanted' oleg - thats out then he wanted to fight calzaghe to stop him beating his record, then he says about calaghe coming to LHW to meet him lol Then it was kessler now hes quiet on that. He will keep fighting hand picked fighters and sadly be loved and paid well for it.
Spot on with those comments i also think people including Hopkins are looking to far in to his win over Tarver Tarver had to lose Major weight fast and looked weak Hopkins is the same fighter that lost to Taylor twice in a row but hes even older and i think Winkys gunna beat him easy and Holyfield would demolish him
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Originally Posted by p4pking
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Originally Posted by Preme
there is no doubt in my mind that evander would knock him the F*** out - but ti wont happen coz hopkins wont get in the ring with him, he is full of S*** lol - first he 'wanted' oleg - thats out then he wanted to fight calzaghe to stop him beating his record, then he says about calaghe coming to LHW to meet him lol Then it was kessler now hes quiet on that. He will keep fighting hand picked fighters and sadly be loved and paid well for it.
Statements like this make you look like a complete idiot. You do realize this right? Hand picked opponents, like Taylor, Tarver, and Wright... In 3 consecutive fights... Shall I compare this with your favourite fighter and his resume of late? Who's he fighting again this weekend... I forget.
go for it, my favourite fighter now and of all time is barrera...
If i am wrong plz correct me, but taylor was a mandatory? as for tarver i don't really care what anyone regarded him as, or what they thought of him - he is nothing more than a decent fighter, beating a past it RJJ means sweet FA imo and fighting wright at 170 is bull shit too! There are numerous guys at LHW and a few at SMw i would much rather see hopkins fight than another fucking 154 fighter.
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by p4pking
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Originally Posted by Preme
there is no doubt in my mind that evander would knock him the F*** out - but ti wont happen coz hopkins wont get in the ring with him, he is full of S*** lol - first he 'wanted' oleg - thats out then he wanted to fight calzaghe to stop him beating his record, then he says about calaghe coming to LHW to meet him lol Then it was kessler now hes quiet on that. He will keep fighting hand picked fighters and sadly be loved and paid well for it.
Statements like this make you look like a complete idiot. You do realize this right? Hand picked opponents, like Taylor, Tarver, and Wright... In 3 consecutive fights... Shall I compare this with your favourite fighter and his resume of late? Who's he fighting again this weekend... I forget.
go for it, my favourite fighter now and of all time is barrera...
If i am wrong plz correct me, but taylor was a mandatory? as for tarver i don't really care what anyone regarded him as, or what they thought of him - he is nothing more than a decent fighter, beating a past it RJJ means sweet FA imo and fighting wright at 170 is bull S*** too! There are numerous guys at LHW and a few at SMw i would much rather see hopkins fight than another F****** 154 fighter.
You know damn well I was referring to Calzaghe... I love how you can't even think of responding to that point, about who he has been fighting and what he's accomplished. Suit yourself, I guess Hopkins just hasn't taken any dangerous fights in your mind. That must be why Calzaghe still fantasizes about fighting him and suddenly called him out at the age of 42 after he beat that decent fighter who posed no risk in Tarver. And that 154 pound fighter beat the man to dethrone Hopkins in Taylor, another person Calzaghe is desperate to fight these days. I can't imagine how you put together these views.
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Originally Posted by p4pking
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Originally Posted by Preme
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Originally Posted by p4pking
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Originally Posted by Preme
there is no doubt in my mind that evander would knock him the F*** out - but ti wont happen coz hopkins wont get in the ring with him, he is full of S*** lol - first he 'wanted' oleg - thats out then he wanted to fight calzaghe to stop him beating his record, then he says about calaghe coming to LHW to meet him lol Then it was kessler now hes quiet on that. He will keep fighting hand picked fighters and sadly be loved and paid well for it.
Statements like this make you look like a complete idiot. You do realize this right? Hand picked opponents, like Taylor, Tarver, and Wright... In 3 consecutive fights... Shall I compare this with your favourite fighter and his resume of late? Who's he fighting again this weekend... I forget.
go for it, my favourite fighter now and of all time is barrera...
If i am wrong plz correct me, but taylor was a mandatory? as for tarver i don't really care what anyone regarded him as, or what they thought of him - he is nothing more than a decent fighter, beating a past it RJJ means sweet FA imo and fighting wright at 170 is bull S*** too! There are numerous guys at LHW and a few at SMw i would much rather see hopkins fight than another F****** 154 fighter.
You know damn well I was referring to Calzaghe... I love how you can't even think of responding to that point, about who he has been fighting and what he's accomplished. Suit yourself, I guess Hopkins just hasn't taken any dangerous fights in your mind. That must be why Calzaghe still fantasizes about fighting him and suddenly called him out at the age of 42 after he beat that decent fighter who posed no risk in Tarver. And that 154 pound fighter beat the man to dethrone Hopkins in Taylor, another person Calzaghe is desperate to fight these days. I can't imagine how you put together these views.
what planet do you live on? calzaghe called out hopkins after he beat ttio, signed a contract to fight him in the states for it to be the first fight after hopkins had beaten tito and was i think #1 pfp in the world - hes been calling him out ever since then...
I rate hopkins in the ring on his talent - out of it what he has done i detest him personally. What calzaghe has to do with this is beyond me, i was talking about hopkins and then you go on about calzaghe? if you can't defend hopkins without trying to yep about another fighter don't bother at all?
Hopkins has had numerous chances in his career that calzaghe didn't - it was hopkins who turned down the calzaghe fight after firstly agreeing a career high pay day, it was hopkins again who used money as an excuse to back out of a rematch with RJJ, it was Hopkins who opened his mouth about meeting toney at 190 only to go quiet when toney welcomed the chance.
All he has ever done is talk talk talk and used money to back his way out of everything... whenever an opertunity has come up for him to prove him self agasint a an established fighter at a weight he has backed out with the exception of Tarver, no matter how little i rate him he was the Ring champ at LHW and he batterd him - i don't think the name it self is all that great and i was some what uncertain if hopkins could do it at his age
